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NYC's Staggering Arrest Rate for Pot Achieved By Police Deception and Scams
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New York police have arrested almost 400,000 people for misdemeanor marijuana possession in the last decade. Last year, there were 39,700 such arrests. The vast majority of those seized have been black and Latino men, most under 25. And according to the NYCLU study, released last week, thousands of them are the victims of police scams, falsely charged with possession of marijuana "burning or open to public view."
"We are confident in estimating that about two-thirds to three-quarters of the people arrested were not smoking marijuana," the study says. "Usually they were doing their utmost to keep their marijuana concealed, generally deep inside their clothing." The authors, sociologist Harry Levine of Queens College and activist Deborah Peterson-Small of the organization Break The Chains, say that conclusion is "based on the experience of legal aid and public-defender attorneys who have handled thousands of these cases, along with that of the police officers and arrestees we interviewed."
New York State decriminalized marijuana in 1977. That reduced possession of less than 25 grams is a violation, carrying a $100 fine and no criminal record. But smoking or possession in public is a misdemeanor, punishable by up to three months in jail. So in order to get around the constitutional restrictions on searches and find a valid reason to make an arrest, police have to use deception.
A typical ruse is for police to stop someone near a suspected marijuana-sales site and tell them something along the lines of "We saw you coming out of the weed spot. If you have anything on you that you're not supposed to have, give it to me and all I'll give you is a ticket." If the suspect falls for the ruse and hands over his marijuana, he is then arrested for displaying it in public view. Though most people charged with misdemeanor pot possession do not receive jail sentences, they often have to spend up to 24 hours in jail before arraignment, and they acquire a permanent arrest record.
Police and defenders of the crackdown say that making large numbers of arrests for minor offenses has reduced major crimes. Other benefits include that it's an easy way for police supervisors to show their precincts' productivity, it's an easy way for individual officers to get overtime-rookie New York cops get paid only $25,000 a year, so "collars for dollars" augment that -- and it keeps a reserve of officers occupied.
Peterson-Small states bluntly that the crackdown is "racist," a legacy of the Giuliani principles that "we will tame New York by bringing the black and brown people under control" and "no offense is too petty." Of the people arrested for misdemeanor pot possession from 1997 through 2006, five out of six were black or Latino, in a city that is almost half white and Asian. Nine out of ten were male, and most were aged 16 to 25. And over the years, the focus has shifted from Midtown Manhattan and Greenwich Village to outlying black and Latino areas. The police precincts in upper Manhattan's Washington Heights, the west Bronx, Jamaica and St. Albans in southeastern Queens, and the "Black Brooklyn" neighborhoods of Bedford-Stuyvesant, Brownsville, and East New York regularly turn in more than 1,000 petty pot busts a year each. Though there is no evidence that black New Yorkers smoke more pot than white ones -- nationally, the rate of use among young adults is slightly higher for whites, at least according to government surveys -- the city's marijuana-arrest rate for blacks is more than five times what it is for whites.
Another worry is that the arrests tag thousands of young black and Latino men as criminals. The study terms the crackdown "Head Start for prison and unemployment." The Head Start preschool program, it notes, intends to "familiarize and socialize young children in the routines and expectations of school systems"; the marijuana-arrest program works to "familiarize, socialize, and prepare disadvantaged black and Latino teenagers and young adults from poor neighborhoods for the routines and expectations of the police, court, jail, and prison system."
The study also calls the policy a waste of money -- at an estimated $1,500 to $2,500 per arrest, it cost the city $60 to $100 million last year, at a time when Mayor Michael Bloomberg is slashing the city budget and closing libraries on weekends. Peterson-Small adds that it violates the spirit of the state's decriminalization law. The ban on public smoking, she says, was originally intended to apply only to people creating a public nuisance, not to someone lighting up discreetly "in the alley behind a jazz club."
Though the city's cannabis crackdown is Rudolph Giuliani's legacy, Bloomberg has continued it. Bloomberg has a reputation as a moderate, as less racist and draconian than Giuliani, and he famously declared "You bet I did -- and I enjoyed it" when asked if he had ever smoked pot. But in his first six years in office, more people have been arrested for misdemeanor possession than in Giuliani's entire eight-year regime.
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Posted by: obliu222 on May 9, 2008 3:36 AM
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Posted by: carbon-based on May 9, 2008 3:49 AM
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Cops work in poor areas more because thats where more crime is reported.. Imagine if cops stayed out of poor areas and just let them all carry guns shooting each other..do you think the ACLU would have a problem with that?
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Posted by: mgloraine on May 9, 2008 5:03 AM
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Of course, it's a lot safer and easier to conduct a "surge" against potheads, and it still generates statistics implying activity by the NYPD. Plus, it's a reliable source of "free" weed for the boys in blue!
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Posted by: schnoggi on May 9, 2008 5:17 AM
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Plus that little queen seriously needs to come out of the closet already.
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Posted by: Blammo on May 9, 2008 6:09 AM
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There are between 7-9 million in New York.
Guesstimating .
I think there are up to several HUNDRED THOUSAND guns... maybe more.
Why doesn't everyone wake up tomorrow, take their gun with them and make a point of shooting one of these professional hall monitors in the friggin head ?
You morons in the M-pyre only think you are free.
You are slaves. Nothing more.
Wake friggin up ! Look around you.
It's a police state stupid !
I'm glad to be gone from that craphole........
I'll NEVER set foot in the US of M-pyre again unless it collapses and gets back to what it was 100 years ago...the greatest nation on earth.
Now it's right at the bottom of the list.
Look up the happy planet index. You'll even be able to figure out where I am. Well.. The name of the country anyhow. We know how geographically challenged your wonderful "educational system" made you..........
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Posted by: johnshadows on May 9, 2008 6:27 AM
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On the other hand, if the cops are really running a racket, setting people up, then some heads should roll.
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Posted by: picket on May 9, 2008 8:38 AM
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Border Patrol, State Police, maybe Homeland Security, are all conducting a massive search for a suspect on an ATV with duffle bag of MJ. The other 24 year old was shot in the back fleeing on his ATV. He was listed in critical condition but improving.
This is taking place right now near the Canadian Border. I assume that New York City needs a lot of MJ just to get through the weekend, and this is the supply route. There are unsolved murders... and missing children but Cannabis Control is THE "BIG" BUSINESS on the border.
OK this is the story... the young man supposedly "tried to run over the agents" with his ATV. So an unarmed man gets the bullet and there is NO citizen protest.
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Posted by: HughScott on May 9, 2008 8:45 AM
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He smoked grass, so did the judge and cops who testified in his courtroom when a defendant, usually from the ghetto, was tried and convicted for doing the same thing.
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Posted by: 2dogarage on May 9, 2008 9:45 AM
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Wake up folks! Some people are mean, stupid and violent. Deprived of a working moral compass for whatever reason they stumble through life getting revenge on others obviously more enlightened.
We are the elite! Stoners of the world, Unite and Take Over! (Now what did I do with my bong...?)
All these extra pigs on the streets of NYC and other places around the country, the excessive amount of highway patrol and citizen law enforcement brigades, are all a build-up of armed automatons for what is now being rumored as a likely descent into martial law at some point.
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Posted by: marid on May 9, 2008 10:50 AM
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The perfect war continues, can't win it, can't lose it, just keep dumping money on a police state. What a truly great war.
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Posted by: dedhedesq on May 9, 2008 11:45 AM
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A Marxist would say its an intentional ploy of capital to ensure a steady stream of cheap and pliant labor with no ability to negotiate and no where to turn.
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Posted by: PaulK on May 9, 2008 12:33 PM
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If you can prove that "probably" thousands of false pretense arrests were made, forcing people to incriminate themselves over and over, then you have a big civil claim.
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Posted by: socrates2 on May 9, 2008 1:21 PM
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It's over-time pay for your typical beat officer to go to court and testify. Some precinct sergeants have been known to "arrange" for the offiicer's "day off"/shift-change to fall on the day the officer is subpena'd to court. Although the officer denies it in open court under oath--promotions, commendations and other job perks such as peer praise are part and parcel of the officer's expectations. As a justice once wrote, "law enforcement is a competitive enterprise." And like anyone else in any profession who wants to score points and desires to look good, officers are no exception. Nothing like busts and convictions for their self-esteem, job approval, rewards and peer praise. Unconscious feelings, motivations and habits are more powerful than conscious logic, any day.
Trial judges pretend or wish to believe these are non-variables in an officer's credibility. Ergo, the incredible conviction numbers, especially among melanin-rich, cash-poor minority groups--the main focus of the establishment "guardians."
I dare anyone to bring me the data to persuade me that Latinos and African-Americans smoke weed (or do smack/coke, etc.) in greater numbers (due to their over-representation in prisons/jails) than whites of all income brackets...
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Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on May 9, 2008 2:47 PM
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How many Jews have they arrested for Pot and how many of them get convicted, and or ever incarcerated under Bloomberg..?
I know I'm a terrible person...
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Posted by: rabiabidabi on May 10, 2008 5:32 AM
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Maybe weed heads should begin a similar effort. Some Youtube videos of mayors and congressmen and corporate honchos and police officers, etc. burning. Dealers to the famous and important should keep client books, ala the DC Madam, so when they get busted they can bring the house down with them.
We're not going to win with an armed insurgence. We need to use cunning and trickery. Pass them the joint, snap their pic and stab them in the back.
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Posted by: pangolin on May 10, 2008 10:32 PM
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No warning; just blam, dead cop.
Maybe there is a source for all that rage somewhere. Until that get sorted out they better stick to wearing body armor.
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March 13, 2008
WASHINGTON, D.C. — Drug Czar John Walters' scheduled appearance at a press conference this morning to announce a new SAMHSA report on the dangers of teen inhalant abuse flies in the face of his office's misplaced priorities, officials of the Marijuana Policy Project in Washington, D.C. said today. MPP noted that Walters' just-released National Drug Control Strategy virtually ignores deadly inhalants while continuing Walters's obsessive focus on marijuana, the least dangerous of illicit drugs.
"It's long been known that inhalants kill, but John Walters has ignored the problem since he became drug czar, while maintaining an obsessive focus on marijuana," said Aaron Houston, MPP's director of government relations. "The 2008 National Drug Control Strategy mentions inhalants exactly twice, once in a graph and once in the acknowledgments section -- but it mentions marijuana 116 times, 28 in the introduction alone.
"As a parent, I'm appalled at the drug czar's priorities," Houston continued. "As the media advisory for Walters' press conference points out, inhalants can kill the very first time you use them, and their use often comes before marijuana or other drugs. We absolutely think kids shouldn't smoke marijuana, but marijuana has never caused a fatal overdose, and it doesn't cause the sort of permanent damage to the brain, liver and other organs that inhalants like solvents and paint thinner can.
The lives of our children are being sacrificed to John Walters' obsessive crusade against marijuana, and one window-dressing press conference isn't enough to change that."
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Posted by: guerillaTHOUGHTterrorist on May 12, 2008 2:05 AM
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A sad tale told whilst we were distracted by reality T.V.
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Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on May 12, 2008 8:42 AM
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-cotton?
-tobacco?
-racial suppression?
...because of a CULTURAL domination of vice based on racial & economic interests... I'm so sick of American crafted 'values' being imposed on the rest of the World.
Why is Marc Emery probably going to see 5 years in a Canadian prison because Americans asked for an transaction which isn't more than a minor misdemeanor in Canada? Because the US demands compliance with their domestic policies.
Why did the Canadian owner of BoDog have to flee to Costa Rica? Because Americans are **charging & extraditing non-Americans for the 'crimes' of Americans**
you heard me. Americans, engaging in extra-American (not to be confused with extra-marital!) activities... so THE NON-AMERICANS have to DO TIME...
think about it.
Vice
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Think about it...
The Thieves of Virtue: legislating morality undermines representative government.
really, VICE is contextual:
* gender
* ethnicity
* age
* race...
all pay a part in morals. but VICE, should never be *criminalized*, especially in a nation where PRIVACY has been abolished.
Who is PERFECT ENOUGH to represent THE PEOPLE or a populist reform when there is neither privacy nor the Will to preserve privacy in society?
Who stands *for the People* when Money & Power exert corrosive controls to extend their oppression & corruption?
You've been *had*
Nobody is immune to *vice* as VICE is about how ONE PERSON privately & personally determines *how to enjoy their own body*...
Naked Truth: Civil Rights & CNN coverage of "F.B.I. biometric database - 'Server in the Sky'"
...& THAT is how THE MORAL MAJORITY ensured Money & Power will kill representative government for The Peoples who seek JUSTICE, Freedom & Human Rights.
"corruption is why we win":
"Yell Fire!": Bush to freeze peace activist assets? - Executive Order to "Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq"
NSA's Domestic Spying Grows As Agency Sweeps Up Data
Diamond Age? - Kids, RFID Chips... & Minority Reporting?!: thoughts on the new US Project Hostile Intent (PHI)
Watching the "Ownership Society": follow-ups on Shareholder Surveillance...
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And the correlation, from a new report by Human Rights Watch
According to our analysis of the 2003 admissions, as shown in Figure 3, the total rate of prison admission for blacks in the 34 reporting states was 256.2 per 100,000 adult black residents. For whites, the rate was 25.3 per 100,000 adults. The black rate of admission has grown much faster than the white rate: between 1986 and 2003 the rate of admission to prison for drug offenses for blacks quintupled; the white rate did not quite triple.
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Cops work in poor areas more because thats where more crime is reported.. Imagine if cops stayed out of poor areas and just let them all carry guns shooting each other..do you think the ACLU would have a problem with that?
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Of course, it's a lot safer and easier to conduct a "surge" against potheads, and it still generates statistics implying activity by the NYPD. Plus, it's a reliable source of "free" weed for the boys in blue!
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Plus that little queen seriously needs to come out of the closet already.
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» RE: Everyone in the chain of injustice is profiting
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» RE: Who's Profiting??? LAWYERS AND POLITICIANS
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» RE: Who's Profiting??? LAWYERS AND POLITICIANS
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» Lots of people in my state.
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Posted by: Blammo on May 9, 2008 6:09 AM
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There are between 7-9 million in New York.
Guesstimating .
I think there are up to several HUNDRED THOUSAND guns... maybe more.
Why doesn't everyone wake up tomorrow, take their gun with them and make a point of shooting one of these professional hall monitors in the friggin head ?
You morons in the M-pyre only think you are free.
You are slaves. Nothing more.
Wake friggin up ! Look around you.
It's a police state stupid !
I'm glad to be gone from that craphole........
I'll NEVER set foot in the US of M-pyre again unless it collapses and gets back to what it was 100 years ago...the greatest nation on earth.
Now it's right at the bottom of the list.
Look up the happy planet index. You'll even be able to figure out where I am. Well.. The name of the country anyhow. We know how geographically challenged your wonderful "educational system" made you..........
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» That was funny!
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Posted by: johnshadows on May 9, 2008 6:27 AM
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On the other hand, if the cops are really running a racket, setting people up, then some heads should roll.
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» heads will roll?
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» Totally Agree
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Posted by: solrev on May 9, 2008 7:08 AM
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Posted by: picket on May 9, 2008 8:38 AM
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Border Patrol, State Police, maybe Homeland Security, are all conducting a massive search for a suspect on an ATV with duffle bag of MJ. The other 24 year old was shot in the back fleeing on his ATV. He was listed in critical condition but improving.
This is taking place right now near the Canadian Border. I assume that New York City needs a lot of MJ just to get through the weekend, and this is the supply route. There are unsolved murders... and missing children but Cannabis Control is THE "BIG" BUSINESS on the border.
OK this is the story... the young man supposedly "tried to run over the agents" with his ATV. So an unarmed man gets the bullet and there is NO citizen protest.
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Posted by: HughScott on May 9, 2008 8:45 AM
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He smoked grass, so did the judge and cops who testified in his courtroom when a defendant, usually from the ghetto, was tried and convicted for doing the same thing.
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Posted by: maxpayne on May 9, 2008 9:18 AM
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» Are you sure it isn't "rheum"?
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» If there is a Karma...
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Posted by: 2dogarage on May 9, 2008 9:45 AM
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Wake up folks! Some people are mean, stupid and violent. Deprived of a working moral compass for whatever reason they stumble through life getting revenge on others obviously more enlightened.
We are the elite! Stoners of the world, Unite and Take Over! (Now what did I do with my bong...?)
All these extra pigs on the streets of NYC and other places around the country, the excessive amount of highway patrol and citizen law enforcement brigades, are all a build-up of armed automatons for what is now being rumored as a likely descent into martial law at some point.
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Posted by: marid on May 9, 2008 10:50 AM
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The perfect war continues, can't win it, can't lose it, just keep dumping money on a police state. What a truly great war.
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Posted by: dedhedesq on May 9, 2008 11:45 AM
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A Marxist would say its an intentional ploy of capital to ensure a steady stream of cheap and pliant labor with no ability to negotiate and no where to turn.
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Posted by: PaulK on May 9, 2008 12:33 PM
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If you can prove that "probably" thousands of false pretense arrests were made, forcing people to incriminate themselves over and over, then you have a big civil claim.
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Posted by: Left of center on May 9, 2008 12:50 PM
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Posted by: socrates2 on May 9, 2008 1:21 PM
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It's over-time pay for your typical beat officer to go to court and testify. Some precinct sergeants have been known to "arrange" for the offiicer's "day off"/shift-change to fall on the day the officer is subpena'd to court. Although the officer denies it in open court under oath--promotions, commendations and other job perks such as peer praise are part and parcel of the officer's expectations. As a justice once wrote, "law enforcement is a competitive enterprise." And like anyone else in any profession who wants to score points and desires to look good, officers are no exception. Nothing like busts and convictions for their self-esteem, job approval, rewards and peer praise. Unconscious feelings, motivations and habits are more powerful than conscious logic, any day.
Trial judges pretend or wish to believe these are non-variables in an officer's credibility. Ergo, the incredible conviction numbers, especially among melanin-rich, cash-poor minority groups--the main focus of the establishment "guardians."
I dare anyone to bring me the data to persuade me that Latinos and African-Americans smoke weed (or do smack/coke, etc.) in greater numbers (due to their over-representation in prisons/jails) than whites of all income brackets...
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Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on May 9, 2008 2:47 PM
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How many Jews have they arrested for Pot and how many of them get convicted, and or ever incarcerated under Bloomberg..?
I know I'm a terrible person...
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Posted by: rabiabidabi on May 10, 2008 5:32 AM
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Maybe weed heads should begin a similar effort. Some Youtube videos of mayors and congressmen and corporate honchos and police officers, etc. burning. Dealers to the famous and important should keep client books, ala the DC Madam, so when they get busted they can bring the house down with them.
We're not going to win with an armed insurgence. We need to use cunning and trickery. Pass them the joint, snap their pic and stab them in the back.
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» Senator Norm Coleman was "outed" as a pot smoker by a former college buddy...
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Posted by: pangolin on May 10, 2008 10:32 PM
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No warning; just blam, dead cop.
Maybe there is a source for all that rage somewhere. Until that get sorted out they better stick to wearing body armor.
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March 13, 2008
WASHINGTON, D.C. — Drug Czar John Walters' scheduled appearance at a press conference this morning to announce a new SAMHSA report on the dangers of teen inhalant abuse flies in the face of his office's misplaced priorities, officials of the Marijuana Policy Project in Washington, D.C. said today. MPP noted that Walters' just-released National Drug Control Strategy virtually ignores deadly inhalants while continuing Walters's obsessive focus on marijuana, the least dangerous of illicit drugs.
"It's long been known that inhalants kill, but John Walters has ignored the problem since he became drug czar, while maintaining an obsessive focus on marijuana," said Aaron Houston, MPP's director of government relations. "The 2008 National Drug Control Strategy mentions inhalants exactly twice, once in a graph and once in the acknowledgments section -- but it mentions marijuana 116 times, 28 in the introduction alone.
"As a parent, I'm appalled at the drug czar's priorities," Houston continued. "As the media advisory for Walters' press conference points out, inhalants can kill the very first time you use them, and their use often comes before marijuana or other drugs. We absolutely think kids shouldn't smoke marijuana, but marijuana has never caused a fatal overdose, and it doesn't cause the sort of permanent damage to the brain, liver and other organs that inhalants like solvents and paint thinner can.
The lives of our children are being sacrificed to John Walters' obsessive crusade against marijuana, and one window-dressing press conference isn't enough to change that."
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Posted by: guerillaTHOUGHTterrorist on May 12, 2008 2:05 AM
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A sad tale told whilst we were distracted by reality T.V.
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Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on May 12, 2008 8:42 AM
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-cotton?
-tobacco?
-racial suppression?
...because of a CULTURAL domination of vice based on racial & economic interests... I'm so sick of American crafted 'values' being imposed on the rest of the World.
Why is Marc Emery probably going to see 5 years in a Canadian prison because Americans asked for an transaction which isn't more than a minor misdemeanor in Canada? Because the US demands compliance with their domestic policies.
Why did the Canadian owner of BoDog have to flee to Costa Rica? Because Americans are **charging & extraditing non-Americans for the 'crimes' of Americans**
you heard me. Americans, engaging in extra-American (not to be confused with extra-marital!) activities... so THE NON-AMERICANS have to DO TIME...
think about it.
Vice
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Think about it...
The Thieves of Virtue: legislating morality undermines representative government.
really, VICE is contextual:
* gender
* ethnicity
* age
* race...
all pay a part in morals. but VICE, should never be *criminalized*, especially in a nation where PRIVACY has been abolished.
Who is PERFECT ENOUGH to represent THE PEOPLE or a populist reform when there is neither privacy nor the Will to preserve privacy in society?
Who stands *for the People* when Money & Power exert corrosive controls to extend their oppression & corruption?
You've been *had*
Nobody is immune to *vice* as VICE is about how ONE PERSON privately & personally determines *how to enjoy their own body*...
Naked Truth: Civil Rights & CNN coverage of "F.B.I. biometric database - 'Server in the Sky'"
...& THAT is how THE MORAL MAJORITY ensured Money & Power will kill representative government for The Peoples who seek JUSTICE, Freedom & Human Rights.
"corruption is why we win":
"Yell Fire!": Bush to freeze peace activist assets? - Executive Order to "Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq"
NSA's Domestic Spying Grows As Agency Sweeps Up Data
Diamond Age? - Kids, RFID Chips... & Minority Reporting?!: thoughts on the new US Project Hostile Intent (PHI)
Watching the "Ownership Society": follow-ups on Shareholder Surveillance...
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Posted by: fanny666 on May 14, 2008 9:11 AM
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And the correlation, from a new report by Human Rights Watch
According to our analysis of the 2003 admissions, as shown in Figure 3, the total rate of prison admission for blacks in the 34 reporting states was 256.2 per 100,000 adult black residents. For whites, the rate was 25.3 per 100,000 adults. The black rate of admission has grown much faster than the white rate: between 1986 and 2003 the rate of admission to prison for drug offenses for blacks quintupled; the white rate did not quite triple.
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