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Is either one of these goals achievable? Certainly. Is either goal realistic? Not until we as a movement instigate significant shifts in both public attitude and political opinion.
Identifying the problems
For several decades, various organizations have pushed for the establishment of a legal and regulated market for adult cannabis use in the United States. Yet, despite extensive educational efforts and millions poured into various legislative campaigns, it's consistently been shown in opinion polls and at the voting booth that only between a third to 46 percent of Americans endorse legalizing the personal use of cannabis for adults.
As a result, the marijuana law reforms that have been enacted over the past several decades have been limited in scope. Specifically, these legal reforms fall into two distinct categories: "decriminalization" (exempting adult cannabis users from incarceration, but not necessarily arrest, under specified circumstances) and "medicalization" (exempting certain state-authorized medical marijuana patients from state-specific criminal sanctions). To date, 12 states -- almost one-third of the U.S. population -- have enacted limited versions of "decriminalization." Twelve states have also adopted various versions of "medicalization."
Both of these concepts -- unlike legalization -- enjoy majority support from the public, with national polls consistently finding that roughly 60 percent of Americans back "decriminalization" and nearly eight out of ten support the medical use of pot under a physician's supervision. But political support for these reforms has been historically weak, limiting the extent of their implementation.
In order to effectively move the debate forward, there has to be a clear sense of why -- despite years of public outreach -- we have failed to persuade a majority of the public that broader pot law reforms are needed. In addition, we must also identify why -- despite years of lobbying -- we have failed to persuade a majority of politicians that even incremental reforms are needed.
Changing the political landscape
All hot-button political issues -- most notably the struggle for "gay rights," immigration reform, and reproductive autonomy -- have faced significant political opposition, particularly from "conservative" or "right-wing" legislators. Similar political antipathy (e.g., opposition from religious or so-called "pro-family" organizations) has obstructed sensible federal marijuana law reforms. Why are political leaders typically unwilling to embrace marijuana law reform as a core, civil rights issue, and what must be done to change this? Below are four suggestions.
Media complacency
Mainstream media coverage of the cannabis issue is often inaccurate and rarely criticizes government policy. Alarmist stories about the alleged dangers of pot often get widespread coverage while evidence that refutes these claims is minimized or ignored. Finally, news reporters typically give greater credence and coverage to government officials espousing the need to maintain the "status quo" while granting far less weight to experts who disagree.
To combat this media bias, pot reformers must do a better job providing consistent and resonant messages to reporters, as well as establishing long-lasting, personal relationships with key journalists and opinion makers. Advocates could consider dedicating resources for print and media advertising campaigns to offset the federal government's anti-drug advertising budget, which annually spends some hundred million dollars in taxpayers' dollars and matching funds to buy television and radio commercials warning about the alleged dangers of pot.
Law enforcement opposition
The law enforcement community is a multifaceted and persuasive lobby group that holds tremendous sway with politicians. More than any single interest group, cops are the most vocal opponents -- in the media and as witnesses at government hearings -- of all aspects of marijuana law reform. In addition, law enforcement typically continues to oppose pot liberalization policies even after such policies have become law -- thus making their implementation that much more difficult (and, often times, less effective). For example, legislation passed last year in Texas allowing police to ticket, rather than arrest, minor marijuana offenders has thus far been implemented in only one county -- despite having been passed nearly unanimously by state politicians.
The drug law reform movement must engage in greater and more active outreach within the law enforcement community. While some groups are already engaging in such efforts, these actions too often rely on the recruitment of retired members of law enforcement and the criminal justice community. Only by recruiting active members of law enforcement can we begin to build necessary credibility and support among politicians, and provide a persuasive counter to the lobbying activities of various state and federal criminal justice associations.
Victims of pot prohibition lack a public face
While there are countless victims of marijuana prohibition -- over 10 million Americans have been arrested for violating U.S. pot laws since 1990 and an estimated 45,000 of them now sit in state or federal prison -- there are few if any publicly recognized "poster children" that embody the excesses of the government's war on weed. Without parading the images and stories of sympathetic victims of various ages, races, and economic strata before the public, most Americans are unlikely to be convinced that the country should amend its pot laws.
Marijuana law reform is often presented by the activist community as a broad political concept (e.g., "Hemp can save the planet!"). It is not. At its core level, it is an effort to bring civil justice to millions of Americans who have been targeted, persecuted, and in many cases, have had their lives ruined for no other reason than the fact that they chose cannabis rather than alcohol to relax.
The harsh penalties associated with a minor marijuana arrest are rarely attacked as extreme or counterproductive. These sanctions include probation and mandatory drug testing, loss of employment, loss of child custody, removal from subsidized housing, asset forfeiture, loss of student aid, loss of voting privileges, loss of adoption rights and the loss of certain federal welfare benefits such as food stamps.
Thousands of Americans suffer such sanctions every day -- at a rate of one person every 38 seconds. Our movement must do a better job of humanizing this issue to the public by emphasizing the personal stories and tragedies endured by the millions of individual Americans who have suffered unduly and egregiously under criminal prohibition. We must also do a better job of recruiting high-profile celebrities and human rights advocates to publicly speak out on these victims' behalf.
Victims of pot prohibition lack sufficient political or financial resources
Criminal marijuana enforcement disproportionately impacts citizens by age. According to a 2005 study commissioned by the NORML Foundation, 74 percent of all Americans busted for pot are under age 30, and one out of four are age 18 or younger. Though these young people suffer the most under our current laws, they lack the financial means and political capital to effectively influence politicians to challenge them. Young people also lack the money to adequately fund the drug law reform movement at a level necessary to adequately represent and protect their interests.
Marijuana enforcement also disproportionately impacts citizens by race. According to NORML's 2005 report, adult African-Americans account for only 12 percent of annual marijuana users, but comprise 23 percent of all marijuana possession arrests in the United States. In some jurisdictions, such as New York City, minorities comprise more than 80 percent of all individuals arrested for pot offenses. However, despite the law's disproportionate impact on minorities, marijuana law reform is seldom portrayed as a racial equality issue.
The marijuana law reform movement must do a better job of engaging with organizations working toward racial equality to properly convey to politicians and the public that this issue is about racial justice and fundamental fairness. Additionally, reformers must do a better job allying with organizations that speak on behalf of youth, particularly urban youth -- who are most at risk of suffering from the lifetime hardships associated with a marijuana conviction. Finally, reformers must reach out to the parents of young people and urge them to become active members of the cannabis law reform movement, which needs the majority of parents to join its ranks as both financial contributors and as political advocates in order to gain the political support necessary to bring about a change in the country's pot laws.
Changing the public's mindset
A strong majority of Americans -- nearly 75 percent -- say that they oppose jailing pot offenders, yet fewer than 50 percent support regulating cannabis so that adults no longer face arrest or incarceration for engaging in the drug's use. Why this apparent paradox? In large part, this ambivalence may be a result of the shortcomings of the drug law reform movement.
Though historically reformers have been effective at presenting persuasive arguments critical of prohibition's failings, we as a movement have devoted far less time and resources educating the public to the numerous societal benefits offered by the alternative: allowing states the option to restrict, tax and regulate the use and sale of marijuana in a manner similar to alcohol. The focus must change. It is time for the drug law reform movement to move beyond offering criticism and begin providing solutions. If our solution is a model of legalization -- with state-mandated age controls and pot sales restricted to state-licensed stores -- then we must begin to consistently and repeatedly articulate the details and advantages of this alternative to the public.
Finally, in order to move public support for such a regulated system above 50 percent, the marijuana law reform movement must adequately identify those demographic groups -- such as parents of teenage children and/or women -- that tend to voice lower support for legalization as compared to other populations, such as "twenty-somethings" or college educated males. (Notably, a 2006 poll by NORML found that, among all age groups polled, the least amount of support for regulating pot was among those aged 30 to 49!) Once these groups are properly identified, reformers must create distinctly tailored messages and talking points to effectively target their unique concerns. I've listed three of these concerns, as well as suggestions for how best to respond to them, below.
Legalizing cannabis like alcohol will increase teens' access and use of pot
One of the great ironies of prohibition is that criminalization's proponents allege that the existing policy is one of drug "control." In fact, prohibition is just the opposite.
Cannabis prohibition is responsible for driving the production, sale and use of marijuana underground. Under the current system, clandestine marijuana suppliers produce pot of unknown quantity and sell it in an unrestricted market to customers of any age. By contrast, a regulated and restricted system would limit the supply of cannabis to young people, while bringing the production and sale of pot for adults within the framework of an above ground, readily accountable marketplace. As reformers, we need to stress to parents that it is only through the implementation of marijuana legalization that they can begin to regain the sense of control that they have lost under the existing anarchic regime.
Legalizing cannabis like alcohol will send a public a message that pot is "OK"
Of all the concerns commonly expressed by the public, fears that marijuana regulation will imply that pot is "OK" may be the easiest to respond to. Why? Because compared to the use and abuse of other legal intoxicants -- most notably alcohol and tobacco -- the responsible use of marijuana is, by typical societal standards, "OK." Pot lacks the dependence liability of tobacco or booze and, unlike alcohol -- or even aspirin -- marijuana consumption is incapable of causing a fatal overdose. According to government survey data, the majority of Americans who use pot do so intermittently -- not daily -- and most voluntarily cease their habit by time they reach their early 30s. (Compare this use pattern to most people's use of cigarettes, a habit that often continues unabated throughout one's lifetime.) Of course, inhaling marijuana smoke over time may be associated with certain pulmonary risks, such as wheezing and chest tightness. However, most of these adverse effects can be mitigated by vaporizing cannabis -- a practice that heats marijuana to a temperature where active cannabis vapors form, but below the point of combustion.
It is time for marijuana law reformers to embrace rather than dispute the notion that the responsible use of cannabis by adults falls well within the ambit of choice we permit individuals in a free society. Reformers shouldn't be afraid to educate the public as to the relative safety of cannabis, particularly when compared to the use of other common intoxicants. Recently, a regional education campaign comparing and contrasting pot use with alcohol launched by the group SAFER (Safer Alternative for Enjoyable Recreation) resulted in a majority of Denver voters electing to do away with minor marijuana law enforcement within the city's limits. The enactment of a similar marijuana "image enhancement" campaign by reformers on a national level would arguably result in a significant increase in public support for broader legalization.
Legalizing cannabis like alcohol will lead to an increase in incidences of drugged driving
According to a 2007 Zogby poll of over 1,000 registered voters, only 36 percent of respondents agreed with the statement, "Should marijuana be legally taxed and regulated like liquor, tobacco or gambling?" By contrast, 44 percent of these same respondents voiced support for legalization "if police had a roadside impairment test for marijuana like they have for alcohol." In other words, the public's concern about traffic safety significantly impedes their support for broader cannabis legalization. Reformers need to address this public concern by offering potential solutions to mitigate incidences of driving while impaired by cannabis.
For example, the marijuana law reform movement should encourage the development of educational or public service campaigns targeting drugged driving behavior. Such campaigns should particularly be aimed toward the younger driving population age 16 to 25 -- as this group is most likely use cannabis and report having operated a motor vehicle shortly after consuming pot. Reformers should also encourage additional funding and training for DREs (drug recognition experts) to better identify drivers who may be operating a vehicle while impaired by marijuana. Finally, the development of cannabis-sensitive technology to rapidly identify the presence of THC in drivers, such as a roadside saliva test, would provide utility to law enforcement in their efforts to better identify potentially intoxicated drivers. Reformers' endorsement of these and other traffic-safety specific campaigns will increase support among the public (and arguably law enforcement) in favor of regulating cannabis by assuaging their concerns that such a policy would potentially lead to an increase in drugged driving activity.
The long-expressed goals of the marijuana law reform movement to end the arrests of responsible adult pot smokers and enact a regulated system of cannabis access and sales are achievable. However, these goals will continue to remain unattainable unless this movement begins to better address the political and public hurdles that have plagued it for more than 30 years.
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Posted by: Mahjee on Feb 12, 2008 12:22 AM
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Government of the people, by the people and for the people.
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Posted by: Abe on Feb 12, 2008 3:36 AM
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Each foreign land, has it’s own brand’
There is of course, home-grown.
Most of it’s grand, easy to stand,
With some, your mind is blown.
It’s found it’s way, smoked every day,
In every walk of life.
From working men, to congressmen,
Even the preacher’s wife.
It can cause good highs, strange looking eyes,
It will make your mouth feel dry.
Makes food taste good, music understood,
Make you laugh until you cry.
You can talk to others, it calms the nerves,
Helps you be as you are.
But like a drink, so don’t you think
That you can drive a car.
You’ll feel each bump, rattle and thump,
Slow down a block away
For a yellow light, want left, turn right,
You might even lose your way.
You’ll tend to forget, the end of it,
Whatever, you were saying.
You can look down, towards the ground
And see that you are swaying.
A lover’s touch, can mean so much,
Send shivers down your spine,
And when in bed, what can be said,
Except, that it is so fine.
To help eyesight, ease cancer’s plight,
And who knows, maybe more.
Good things to come, from that plant some
Of those, ignorant, ignore.
It’s made illegal, the paper eagle
Is spent to promote crime.
It could be sold and be controlled
Don’t you think it’s about time.
So, maybe some day, under table pay
Won’t stop legalization.
But, until then, with a silly grin
We will just bear our frustration.
Del “Abe” Jones
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Posted by: zooeyhall on Feb 12, 2008 6:24 AM
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And from what I know about hemp, existing farm equipment could be used for planting and harvesting.
I was surprised to learn from my 88 year old dad that hemp was actually grown extensively during World War II in my area, as a substitute for Manila Hemp.
Other countries are developing hemp as a crop. Why aren't we also? I read that the U.S. is one of the few industrialized countries to not be promoting hemp production.
There is something mysterious about the official attitude towards hemp in this country. At a recent farm meeting, the county extension agent was asked some questions about hemp production. He refused to comment, saying that there is an official policy in place that prohibits him from even discussing hemp production!
I also would like readers to know that when a farmer signs up for the Federal farm program, the farmer has to sign a statement that they have never grown hemp and will not grow it.
There is something more going on here then just "the war on drugs"!
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» You can't get high off hemp.
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Posted by: jackl2400 on Feb 12, 2008 6:44 AM
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Most of these ideas are great if you can find some way to implement them. I think getting active law enforcement to advocate against their perceived economic interests (a la LEAP) is unrealistic. However, if anyone can figure out how that could happen, it is LEAP and not other reform orgs such as NORML. I'm happy that judging from last fall's DPA conference, black folks are finally "getting" that they are the target of the war on some users of some drugs and are acting accordingly, rather than being handmaidens of the drug warriors (i.e., the ministers and community leaders that try to demonize drugs and users).
One thing that reformers on lists I'm on are not happy with is NORML's notion that a compromise can be reached on DWIs, with development of roadside testing for cannabis "intoxication". Many people, like me, reject the alcohol analogy entirely and think that NORML will regret it under a decrim regime where anyone who tests positive for pot will be treated like a drunk driver and arrested. Anyone who has ever smoked pot and drives will know this is an incorrect analogy...the well-known detrimental effects on driving ability of alcohol (reduced reaction time, motor control, blurred vision, drowsiness, etc.) have not been established with cannabis, either scientifically or even anecdotally.
Lastly, one thing NORML might ask is whether its constituency actually benefits from the status quo. I speak in particular of criminal defense attorneys. NORML runs conferences and retreats for defense attorneys. Most of these attorneys are not trying to change the system, but rather to profit off the legal needs of drug war victims.
I'd respect NORML and its affiliated attorneys a lot more if, for instance, they participated in a class action to stop New York City's illegal ~80,000 arrests/yr (drugs discovered during illegal street frisk and defendant overcharged with "use in plain view", a misdemeanor in a supposedly "decriminalized" state where penalty is $100 non-arrestable violation "ticket"). Or if NORML was in the forefront of the issues raised by MAPS and others (reclassifiction of cannabis, research quality drug access, etc.)
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Posted by: ClassAct on Feb 12, 2008 7:48 AM
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The “War on Drugs” is really nothing other than a war on the public, and the American left should embrace this idea as a necessity for overall political strategy.
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Posted by: lc on Feb 12, 2008 8:13 AM
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The CEO's of Legal Drugs in America should be cell mates with ex-President Noriaga of Panama.
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Posted by: picket on Feb 12, 2008 9:09 AM
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Cannabis is considered a hallucinogen while amphetamines were considered to be insufficiently morphine like or cocaine like to fall within the scope of the Single Convention.
The UN's CND annual meeting serves as a forum for nations to debate drug policy. In 2005 France, Germany, Netherlands, Canada, Australia and Iran rallied in opposition to the UN's zero tolerance in international drug policy. The USA VETOED the Appeal and the UK remained reticent.
Maybe we should be debating if Cannabis is a hallucinogen it certainly should not be classified as a narcotic.
It is going to take a LEADER to rein in the current USA Office of National Drug Control's influence on other nations. A TASK we may never see in our lifetime due to a very uneducated Public.
....And Big Brother Likes It THAT WAY.
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Posted by: cyberfactotum on Feb 12, 2008 9:39 AM
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Whether that is strictly true or not, it appears that several plants and drugs have been--at least briefly--illegal at times throughout the world: tobacco, coffee, tea, alcohol, coca, cocoa, etc.
The Boston Tea Party was pivotal to birth of our own nation. The Opium wars had much to do with this histories of Britain, India and China. Alcohol has been made illegal before in several countries, and it may be made illegal some time in the future, just like any substance could be.
There are several different reasons and aspects to the history of the legality of drugs and plants. One of the prime ones has of course to do with economics.
Marijuana will not remain illegal forever. Its current legal state is just a statistical blip on the radar screen of history. an anomaly that will be studied in the future just like the prohibition of alcohol in the U.S. from 1920 to 1933.
It's just that it's a little harder to grow tobacco and make alcohol to produce good drugs than it is to grow marijuana. Therefore industry enters the picture and can make an easy profit.
It a little harder to arrange for the situation where companies to gain profitable control of the marijuana industry, since it's so easy to grow. To get to a scenario where name-brand packs of marijuana are sold (like in John Brunner's novel "To Stand on Zanzibar), a country would have to be convinced that marijuana should ONLY be grown under government or corporate supervision.
Seems like we now have a populace sufficiently cowed by the "war on drugs" approach the administration has pursued for decades. So I predict in the not-so-distant future marijuana will be grown and packed and sold mostly by corporations.
Sure, anyone could grow marijuana (if viable seeds are available). Just like nowadaze anyone could make their own beer or perhaps even grow and roll their own tobacco. But why would they bother with the hassle and the uncertainty of regulations, if they could just go to a local 7/11 and get a legal pack of Panama Red or Columbian Golds for $99.95?
Then the illegality of marijuana will be forgotten, just a quaint blip in history.
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Posted by: jeffrey7 on Feb 12, 2008 9:57 AM
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Just like sealing the Kennedy Assasination records for 50 years,bad mouthing Hemp until everyone that could show proof that the feds are full of shit is dead. That's how well the media works with the feds.
There are plenty of examples of how the garbage given us by booze,tobacco and PharmCo is life threatening and killing. The same can't be sais for Hemp. There has never been one reported death from overdose on hemp talked about in the last 5000 years.
If you really want Peace in the Streets...legalize Hemp for home grown personal use.
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» RE: Traffic safety, actual data - www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/ (repair link, continued)
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» RE: Traffic safety... Yes, Improve your driving...
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Posted by: Lauren on Feb 12, 2008 10:55 AM
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Subject: Please cover plight of marijuana law victums
Date: March 17, 2006 11:42:41 AM PST
To: amcgall@cctimes.com
Cc: kindGSL
Dear Andrew McGall,
I came into your reception area this morning to complain about the CCT's grossly unfair front page coverage of marijuana and alcohol. I was very upset. The very nice receptionist directed me to you as the right person who assigns reporters to stories. I would like to be assigned to a reporter as a background source for marijuana stories. I am a small leader in the marijuana freedom movement, and I am big leader in the marijuana religious freedom movement.
I want your paper to see marijuana's relationship to religion, and to see mj's place in competition with alcohol. This is a very important topic to me because the way the paper is currently covering them so differently is actually helping in the religious persecution of my people. Is that really what you want to be doing? I hope not.
Our government does persecute groups, especially mine. I don't like that so I decided to take my Girl Scout leadership skills and do something positive about it. I think your paper could be be a LOT more sensitive to my sides' issues with a little more back ground information. I hope so. There are so many issues involved in marijuana prohibition, it is hard to know where to start. I really think it should be assigned to someone who can investigate the tangled legal, moral, social and political web. All I can offer is to be an educated guide.
There are some really sick people out there who were really depending on being able to get their medicine in their food, they are too sick to smoke pot. The DEA closing of this factory is going to really hurt them, not pretend hurt them, really hurt them. Why wasn't their voice in this mornings' story? Also the illegality of processing creates an unregulated food market, very bad policy. No one mentioned that.
I have seen these people. I have had a medical doctor explain to me how with marijuana he was able to reduce their other drugs. Drugs with negative side effects. With marijuana he was improving their health overall by using less drugs.
And now here is a link to a story about alcohol, a little gem I found today: http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6538 Pot compound protects against alcohol induced brain damage. To anyone who has seen the ravages of fetal alcohol poisoning, you really have to wonder about an administration that claims pot is 'the most dangerous drug'. It has already been well shown pot consumption reduces alcohol use and exhibits a strong alcohol anti-poisoning effect.
So, I ask you, Why is pot illegal? I expect to eventually hear a good answer to that question or see it legalized. I believe it is ALL about religion, religious discrimination and religious persecution. This isn't crazy talk, there is loads of documentation.
The story about the drug war is a huge, huge story. It is a dirty story too and it is based on religious persecution, especially Native American religious persecution. I have been researching (and acting on) this idea for a couple of years now. I have written to your editors asking to be assigned to a reporter as at least a back ground source person on the topic (since I know so much). I guess I asked the wrong persons.
I will be very happy to be meeting up with the right person soon. I hope I am now at least asking the right person for direction. Thank you for your assistance, I have quite a story to tell. I hope someone friendly will start asking me some good questions so I can tell it.
Sincerely,
Lauren Unruh
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Posted by: Lauren on Feb 12, 2008 11:40 AM
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Date: August 21, 2006 11:14:47 AM PDT
Dear Honorable Dianne Feinstein,
I write today to ask you personally, on your honor as my Senator and as one of the few who might actually know, are any of my emails private? If not, how can grass roots political groups like the marijuana (and other drug) law reform groups, in our post 9/11 world, how can we promote our political ideas without our political enemies being all knowing about all our strategies?
Do we ordinary activist citizens have that privacy from our own government? How about from big business? National Security? If I write email letters to persons who may be under some sort of investigation, drug or otherwise, or I use a phone to communicate with such people, could that communication be at all private? How about me, am I presently under investigation? Have I ever been? Ooo, tell the truth now, I'm a religious leader, trying to do drug policy politics. I am being discriminated against I have been harassed.
I am talking about political organizing, the art of inspiring people and promoting plans and ideas. What are our political privacy parameters? Isn't the party in power still tapping any phone, reading any email that catches their fancy? How does that lever of power play out in the hallowed halls of congress? It seems to me it could be quite a corrupting influence. Do Senators perhaps rush to vote for big business profits, war and sweetheart deals, in mass, because they are afraid of the Bush White House? Do they harbor secret and very real fears of exposure? We both know, no one is so perfect they can handle full exposure.
There are no moral shades of gray on the drug war. Only the gray depressions my people feel held unjustly in jail and the darkness that grows in all their hearts towards their many oppressors. The drug war is certainly not the black and white issue you would like it to be. So please, let's talk about the huge element missing in the present day political conversation: what is criminal only depends on who is in control. That can change. Slavery is a good historical example, federal drug law is the same thing today. The drug war can be compared to any ethnic cleansing, any holocaust. More black men are now in jail then were ever held in American slavery. This is a very deep sort of national sickness.
Full inspections at the borders, cargo and port security would do much to control the illegal inflow of drugs. It is very telling the Bush administration talks that way, but walks quite the other. It is obvious to me the present administration likes drugs, likes drug wars, likes prisons, likes anarchy, and likes certain parties making a big hidden profit on the whole mess. But hey, we are talking about Bushtalk so, no surprise. What I can't figure out is why you are walking the Bushwalk. I thought you were smarter then that. Well, the drug war is old hat between I and I.
When McCain controls the levers, will my people be any safer? Or what about you? Would my people be safe with you in the White House? These are important questions to me (and my people). I have a message that rings true with a lot of people, my people. I'm building a political party with those people so we can find human justice. Does the Democratic Party want to open it's doors to my people, or send them all straight to hell? I think you already know the answer to that. I seem to have interested certain members, various factions, of the Democratic party. I hear them using my words, ideas.
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Posted by: Lauren on Feb 12, 2008 11:54 AM
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Date: September 26, 2006 8:47:36 AM PDT
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Cc: kindGSL
Dear Andrew,
Hey thank you for the link for the very interesting Daniel Madigan interview. I am always interested in what the Pope of the Holy See is doing. I thought he was stirring it up deliberately to get the conversation going. His conversation, whatever that is, is a part of my service project. Do you know about my religious freedom service project to bring Hippie religions out of the closet? It started out a a project to end the drug war but morphed into saving my people.
I have been posting for some time on AlterNet (Lauren) and more recently a couple of times on Daou as Sister Lauren. I love politics, the game, I am a rabid fan. A great critic. I also am really into religion and rooting out its' nefarious uses, my Sister Lauren title was granted to me by the THC Ministry, Amsterdam. Believe me, I have earned it, I am a practicing Native American, a very difficult thing to be, the Red Road is highly suspect in our dominating christian culture. Our religion books are NOT given shelf space in the religion section at Borders. I was also a Girl Scout leader for about ten years, very active in the Adult Coordinating Team (ACT), a teriffic experience.
I decided to end the drug war as my own personal service project, but it has been very personally difficult. Harder than I thought it would be. I know we are both interested in this stuff, so please, ask me some questions. Reply to the kindGSL email if you are interested in pen pal-dom. Thanks.
Sincerely,
Lauren
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Andrew never answers me directly, but I do see him respond to my ideas from time to time in his blog or on TV. I don't think he wants to acknowledge me, or the validity of my issues. He is all about religion, promoting his, denying mine. There are others like that, they are getting lots of play on the telly. The secret reasons for prohibition are all about religion.
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Also, it seems to me that the biggest obstacle in legalization of marijuana is the tobacco companies. Marijuana's easy for anyone to grow. Tobacco is not. If you're going to smoke something, they want it to be a Camel or a Marlboro that you can't grow without them.
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Posted by: js5 on Feb 13, 2008 6:55 AM
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TERRIBLE!!!
I agree with making marijuana legal. LET'S DO IT IN 2009!!! NOT 2008.
Has the left learned nothing? In 2008, let's get the Fascists out of government, not embrace another hot button issue that will bring out the conservatives in droves.
In 2008, DON'T EVEN SAY THE WORD MARIJUANA! Come on, liberals. LET'S BE SMART FOR ONCE.
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Posted by: Eezee on Feb 14, 2008 4:25 AM
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As soon as marijuana usage is stripped of its appeal as being cool, educated, liberal and open-minded, it will be found to be just another stupid habit.
I say legalize pot and each and every self-opinionated American will be fighting against its usage.
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1937
we must keep our white women away from black men
marijuana makes white women seek relations with black men
didnt do the paleface much good did it!!!!!!
wanna know what i think the whole thing is all about
PENIS size envy
YEP I SAID IT
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NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Smoking a joint a day is just as bad for you as smoking a pack of cigarettes a day, a study from New Zealand indicates.
Smoking a joint a day for one year boosted the likelihood of developing lung cancer by 8 percent, Dr. Richard Beasley of the Medical Research Institute of New Zealand in Wellington and colleagues found, while cigarette smokers' risk increased by 7 percent for every year that they smoked a pack a day.
The heaviest pot smokers were at nearly six-fold greater risk of lung cancer compared to people who didn't smoke marijuana.
"The balance of evidence would suggest a positive association between cannabis and lung cancer," Beasley and his team conclude in the February issue of the European Respiratory Journal.
Evidence on the lung cancer-pot smoking link has been mixed, while legal issues as well as difficulty in quantifying marijuana use make studying pot's health effects difficult, the researchers note.
Since New Zealand has high rates of both pot smoking and lung cancer, and the nation's marijuana users rarely mix weed with tobacco, it "represents an ideal country in which to study the association between cannabis and respiratory tract cancer," the researchers say.
To that end, the researchers matched 79 lung cancer patients with 324 healthy controls, all of whom were younger than 55 years. Study participants' smoking habits were quantified using joint years (one for every year during which a person smoked a joint every day) or pack years (one per year during which a person smoked a pack daily).
Overall marijuana smoking, which the researchers defined as having smoked at least 20 joints in one's lifetime, didn't increase lung cancer risk. However, people who had more than 10.5 joint years under their belts were 5.7 times more likely to be lung cancer patients.
Based on the findings, the researchers say, about 5 percent of lung cancer cases among people 55 and younger in New Zealand could be due to pot smoking.
The researchers think worldwide efforts to reduce tobacco smoking "may need to include greater initiatives to reduce cannabis smoking and should be directed particularly at young people."
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Posted by: aahpat on Feb 15, 2008 5:31 AM
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The real problem with drug policy reform, in my opinion, is that reformers depend on 1. educating the masses and 2. gaining the sympathies of an unsympathetic self interested society.
Educating the masses is a hopeless effort since the masses are a constantly changing melting pot. It is also politically backward, in a REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY, to set a goal of educating the public before gaining the interests of representatives. In our representative democracy it is politicians who adopt a policy and take that policy to the masses in the form of policy initiatives and platform. The education of the masses part happens as a result of politicians raising the debate.
Gaining the sympathies of self-interested Americans is a hopeless effort. They support the drug laws out of self interest. Misguided self interest to be sure. But that is their motivation and it will not change as long as it is not trumped by a superior self interest. We will achieve more by telling non-users and disinterested Americans how drug policy reform will help them. Make their lives better and safer.
We get politicians interested in a policy two ways. One, education of the willing. Two, coercion of the unwilling. Coercion is just another way of confronting the politician's self interests in persuading them to adopt a reform position.
Number two is simpler than it may seem and effective in American politics. Threaten the political viability of politicians. Make it clear that you will withhold your vote from politicians who do not support reform. Write negatively critical letters to the editor about intransigent politicians. Not just about pot but about all issues that can effect public opinion on that politician. The Granite State medical pot folks have done a tremendous job of confronting politicians in this election cycle. They single-handedly dragged the entire Democratic field to take moderated positions of medical pot enforcement using publicly confrontational tactics that threaten politicians by simply forcing them to make public statements.
Rather than try to get non-using/non-reform minded Americans to be sympathetic to the interests of people who they have happily oppressed for three dozen years, what is needed is to show them how it is in their best interest to end the prohibition.
-Local government budgets are a total disaster and drug enforcement is a big part of this problem.
-There are more criminals on our streets BECAUSE the drug laws are defining more and more people as criminals thus consigning them to the criminal economy for sustenance.
-The drug war black market economy funds terrorism as it supports more criminals in America.
-The over-crowded prisons foster higher rates of deadly diseases like AIDs and TB among people who can't afford medical help and so become burdens on ALL America.
-The millions of Americans criminally disenfranchised amounts to greater numbers than decided the previous two presidential elections.
These are the superior self interests that will make Americans reconsider their petty self interested but misguided desire to oppress drug users. For whatever reasons they have for doing it.
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This is at the heart of the marijuana issue. Yes, there are money issues like all the people in the criminal justice system who make money but that's missing the main point. The main point is that marijuana frees us from the "spell" that life is an exercise in control ... that our PURPOSE here is to "make money."
Money is a means of control and marijuana is a liberator from the "money spell."
I find it interesting that in Oregon, where they have medical marijuana, you have to pay $100 for a permit to grow marijuana but you aren't allow to sell it to the "patients" who need it. How exactly are you supposed to cover your expenses for growing the marijuana? Please.
It's all about money.
Marijuana is supporting our economy in a number of ways. If we weren't "making money" with marijuana we would have to fix the broken money system and possibly replace it with something better. ( gasp! communism? )
Remember, one of the reasons people use for marijuana prohibition is that it makes people lazy. We all know in the back of our minds that we must OPPRESS OTHERS in order to succed in this economic system. Marijuana makes it harder to do this so we must remove marijuana from society.
It's about money, but in ways that are far more sinister than the obvious ones.
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Does that mean you are now a shit-for-brains straight guy ? Leaving an opening like that could be indicitive of such a "condition."
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Government of the people, by the people and for the people.
Direct Democracy
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Posted by: Abe on Feb 12, 2008 3:36 AM
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Each foreign land, has it’s own brand’
There is of course, home-grown.
Most of it’s grand, easy to stand,
With some, your mind is blown.
It’s found it’s way, smoked every day,
In every walk of life.
From working men, to congressmen,
Even the preacher’s wife.
It can cause good highs, strange looking eyes,
It will make your mouth feel dry.
Makes food taste good, music understood,
Make you laugh until you cry.
You can talk to others, it calms the nerves,
Helps you be as you are.
But like a drink, so don’t you think
That you can drive a car.
You’ll feel each bump, rattle and thump,
Slow down a block away
For a yellow light, want left, turn right,
You might even lose your way.
You’ll tend to forget, the end of it,
Whatever, you were saying.
You can look down, towards the ground
And see that you are swaying.
A lover’s touch, can mean so much,
Send shivers down your spine,
And when in bed, what can be said,
Except, that it is so fine.
To help eyesight, ease cancer’s plight,
And who knows, maybe more.
Good things to come, from that plant some
Of those, ignorant, ignore.
It’s made illegal, the paper eagle
Is spent to promote crime.
It could be sold and be controlled
Don’t you think it’s about time.
So, maybe some day, under table pay
Won’t stop legalization.
But, until then, with a silly grin
We will just bear our frustration.
Del “Abe” Jones
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And from what I know about hemp, existing farm equipment could be used for planting and harvesting.
I was surprised to learn from my 88 year old dad that hemp was actually grown extensively during World War II in my area, as a substitute for Manila Hemp.
Other countries are developing hemp as a crop. Why aren't we also? I read that the U.S. is one of the few industrialized countries to not be promoting hemp production.
There is something mysterious about the official attitude towards hemp in this country. At a recent farm meeting, the county extension agent was asked some questions about hemp production. He refused to comment, saying that there is an official policy in place that prohibits him from even discussing hemp production!
I also would like readers to know that when a farmer signs up for the Federal farm program, the farmer has to sign a statement that they have never grown hemp and will not grow it.
There is something more going on here then just "the war on drugs"!
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Most of these ideas are great if you can find some way to implement them. I think getting active law enforcement to advocate against their perceived economic interests (a la LEAP) is unrealistic. However, if anyone can figure out how that could happen, it is LEAP and not other reform orgs such as NORML. I'm happy that judging from last fall's DPA conference, black folks are finally "getting" that they are the target of the war on some users of some drugs and are acting accordingly, rather than being handmaidens of the drug warriors (i.e., the ministers and community leaders that try to demonize drugs and users).
One thing that reformers on lists I'm on are not happy with is NORML's notion that a compromise can be reached on DWIs, with development of roadside testing for cannabis "intoxication". Many people, like me, reject the alcohol analogy entirely and think that NORML will regret it under a decrim regime where anyone who tests positive for pot will be treated like a drunk driver and arrested. Anyone who has ever smoked pot and drives will know this is an incorrect analogy...the well-known detrimental effects on driving ability of alcohol (reduced reaction time, motor control, blurred vision, drowsiness, etc.) have not been established with cannabis, either scientifically or even anecdotally.
Lastly, one thing NORML might ask is whether its constituency actually benefits from the status quo. I speak in particular of criminal defense attorneys. NORML runs conferences and retreats for defense attorneys. Most of these attorneys are not trying to change the system, but rather to profit off the legal needs of drug war victims.
I'd respect NORML and its affiliated attorneys a lot more if, for instance, they participated in a class action to stop New York City's illegal ~80,000 arrests/yr (drugs discovered during illegal street frisk and defendant overcharged with "use in plain view", a misdemeanor in a supposedly "decriminalized" state where penalty is $100 non-arrestable violation "ticket"). Or if NORML was in the forefront of the issues raised by MAPS and others (reclassifiction of cannabis, research quality drug access, etc.)
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Posted by: ClassAct on Feb 12, 2008 7:48 AM
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The “War on Drugs” is really nothing other than a war on the public, and the American left should embrace this idea as a necessity for overall political strategy.
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Posted by: lc on Feb 12, 2008 8:13 AM
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The CEO's of Legal Drugs in America should be cell mates with ex-President Noriaga of Panama.
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Posted by: picket on Feb 12, 2008 9:09 AM
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Cannabis is considered a hallucinogen while amphetamines were considered to be insufficiently morphine like or cocaine like to fall within the scope of the Single Convention.
The UN's CND annual meeting serves as a forum for nations to debate drug policy. In 2005 France, Germany, Netherlands, Canada, Australia and Iran rallied in opposition to the UN's zero tolerance in international drug policy. The USA VETOED the Appeal and the UK remained reticent.
Maybe we should be debating if Cannabis is a hallucinogen it certainly should not be classified as a narcotic.
It is going to take a LEADER to rein in the current USA Office of National Drug Control's influence on other nations. A TASK we may never see in our lifetime due to a very uneducated Public.
....And Big Brother Likes It THAT WAY.
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Whether that is strictly true or not, it appears that several plants and drugs have been--at least briefly--illegal at times throughout the world: tobacco, coffee, tea, alcohol, coca, cocoa, etc.
The Boston Tea Party was pivotal to birth of our own nation. The Opium wars had much to do with this histories of Britain, India and China. Alcohol has been made illegal before in several countries, and it may be made illegal some time in the future, just like any substance could be.
There are several different reasons and aspects to the history of the legality of drugs and plants. One of the prime ones has of course to do with economics.
Marijuana will not remain illegal forever. Its current legal state is just a statistical blip on the radar screen of history. an anomaly that will be studied in the future just like the prohibition of alcohol in the U.S. from 1920 to 1933.
It's just that it's a little harder to grow tobacco and make alcohol to produce good drugs than it is to grow marijuana. Therefore industry enters the picture and can make an easy profit.
It a little harder to arrange for the situation where companies to gain profitable control of the marijuana industry, since it's so easy to grow. To get to a scenario where name-brand packs of marijuana are sold (like in John Brunner's novel "To Stand on Zanzibar), a country would have to be convinced that marijuana should ONLY be grown under government or corporate supervision.
Seems like we now have a populace sufficiently cowed by the "war on drugs" approach the administration has pursued for decades. So I predict in the not-so-distant future marijuana will be grown and packed and sold mostly by corporations.
Sure, anyone could grow marijuana (if viable seeds are available). Just like nowadaze anyone could make their own beer or perhaps even grow and roll their own tobacco. But why would they bother with the hassle and the uncertainty of regulations, if they could just go to a local 7/11 and get a legal pack of Panama Red or Columbian Golds for $99.95?
Then the illegality of marijuana will be forgotten, just a quaint blip in history.
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Just like sealing the Kennedy Assasination records for 50 years,bad mouthing Hemp until everyone that could show proof that the feds are full of shit is dead. That's how well the media works with the feds.
There are plenty of examples of how the garbage given us by booze,tobacco and PharmCo is life threatening and killing. The same can't be sais for Hemp. There has never been one reported death from overdose on hemp talked about in the last 5000 years.
If you really want Peace in the Streets...legalize Hemp for home grown personal use.
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Posted by: Lauren on Feb 12, 2008 10:55 AM
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Subject: Please cover plight of marijuana law victums
Date: March 17, 2006 11:42:41 AM PST
To: amcgall@cctimes.com
Cc: kindGSL
Dear Andrew McGall,
I came into your reception area this morning to complain about the CCT's grossly unfair front page coverage of marijuana and alcohol. I was very upset. The very nice receptionist directed me to you as the right person who assigns reporters to stories. I would like to be assigned to a reporter as a background source for marijuana stories. I am a small leader in the marijuana freedom movement, and I am big leader in the marijuana religious freedom movement.
I want your paper to see marijuana's relationship to religion, and to see mj's place in competition with alcohol. This is a very important topic to me because the way the paper is currently covering them so differently is actually helping in the religious persecution of my people. Is that really what you want to be doing? I hope not.
Our government does persecute groups, especially mine. I don't like that so I decided to take my Girl Scout leadership skills and do something positive about it. I think your paper could be be a LOT more sensitive to my sides' issues with a little more back ground information. I hope so. There are so many issues involved in marijuana prohibition, it is hard to know where to start. I really think it should be assigned to someone who can investigate the tangled legal, moral, social and political web. All I can offer is to be an educated guide.
There are some really sick people out there who were really depending on being able to get their medicine in their food, they are too sick to smoke pot. The DEA closing of this factory is going to really hurt them, not pretend hurt them, really hurt them. Why wasn't their voice in this mornings' story? Also the illegality of processing creates an unregulated food market, very bad policy. No one mentioned that.
I have seen these people. I have had a medical doctor explain to me how with marijuana he was able to reduce their other drugs. Drugs with negative side effects. With marijuana he was improving their health overall by using less drugs.
And now here is a link to a story about alcohol, a little gem I found today: http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6538 Pot compound protects against alcohol induced brain damage. To anyone who has seen the ravages of fetal alcohol poisoning, you really have to wonder about an administration that claims pot is 'the most dangerous drug'. It has already been well shown pot consumption reduces alcohol use and exhibits a strong alcohol anti-poisoning effect.
So, I ask you, Why is pot illegal? I expect to eventually hear a good answer to that question or see it legalized. I believe it is ALL about religion, religious discrimination and religious persecution. This isn't crazy talk, there is loads of documentation.
The story about the drug war is a huge, huge story. It is a dirty story too and it is based on religious persecution, especially Native American religious persecution. I have been researching (and acting on) this idea for a couple of years now. I have written to your editors asking to be assigned to a reporter as at least a back ground source person on the topic (since I know so much). I guess I asked the wrong persons.
I will be very happy to be meeting up with the right person soon. I hope I am now at least asking the right person for direction. Thank you for your assistance, I have quite a story to tell. I hope someone friendly will start asking me some good questions so I can tell it.
Sincerely,
Lauren Unruh
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Posted by: Lauren on Feb 12, 2008 11:40 AM
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Date: August 21, 2006 11:14:47 AM PDT
Dear Honorable Dianne Feinstein,
I write today to ask you personally, on your honor as my Senator and as one of the few who might actually know, are any of my emails private? If not, how can grass roots political groups like the marijuana (and other drug) law reform groups, in our post 9/11 world, how can we promote our political ideas without our political enemies being all knowing about all our strategies?
Do we ordinary activist citizens have that privacy from our own government? How about from big business? National Security? If I write email letters to persons who may be under some sort of investigation, drug or otherwise, or I use a phone to communicate with such people, could that communication be at all private? How about me, am I presently under investigation? Have I ever been? Ooo, tell the truth now, I'm a religious leader, trying to do drug policy politics. I am being discriminated against I have been harassed.
I am talking about political organizing, the art of inspiring people and promoting plans and ideas. What are our political privacy parameters? Isn't the party in power still tapping any phone, reading any email that catches their fancy? How does that lever of power play out in the hallowed halls of congress? It seems to me it could be quite a corrupting influence. Do Senators perhaps rush to vote for big business profits, war and sweetheart deals, in mass, because they are afraid of the Bush White House? Do they harbor secret and very real fears of exposure? We both know, no one is so perfect they can handle full exposure.
There are no moral shades of gray on the drug war. Only the gray depressions my people feel held unjustly in jail and the darkness that grows in all their hearts towards their many oppressors. The drug war is certainly not the black and white issue you would like it to be. So please, let's talk about the huge element missing in the present day political conversation: what is criminal only depends on who is in control. That can change. Slavery is a good historical example, federal drug law is the same thing today. The drug war can be compared to any ethnic cleansing, any holocaust. More black men are now in jail then were ever held in American slavery. This is a very deep sort of national sickness.
Full inspections at the borders, cargo and port security would do much to control the illegal inflow of drugs. It is very telling the Bush administration talks that way, but walks quite the other. It is obvious to me the present administration likes drugs, likes drug wars, likes prisons, likes anarchy, and likes certain parties making a big hidden profit on the whole mess. But hey, we are talking about Bushtalk so, no surprise. What I can't figure out is why you are walking the Bushwalk. I thought you were smarter then that. Well, the drug war is old hat between I and I.
When McCain controls the levers, will my people be any safer? Or what about you? Would my people be safe with you in the White House? These are important questions to me (and my people). I have a message that rings true with a lot of people, my people. I'm building a political party with those people so we can find human justice. Does the Democratic Party want to open it's doors to my people, or send them all straight to hell? I think you already know the answer to that. I seem to have interested certain members, various factions, of the Democratic party. I hear them using my words, ideas.
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Posted by: Lauren on Feb 12, 2008 11:54 AM
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Date: September 26, 2006 8:47:36 AM PDT
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Dear Andrew,
Hey thank you for the link for the very interesting Daniel Madigan interview. I am always interested in what the Pope of the Holy See is doing. I thought he was stirring it up deliberately to get the conversation going. His conversation, whatever that is, is a part of my service project. Do you know about my religious freedom service project to bring Hippie religions out of the closet? It started out a a project to end the drug war but morphed into saving my people.
I have been posting for some time on AlterNet (Lauren) and more recently a couple of times on Daou as Sister Lauren. I love politics, the game, I am a rabid fan. A great critic. I also am really into religion and rooting out its' nefarious uses, my Sister Lauren title was granted to me by the THC Ministry, Amsterdam. Believe me, I have earned it, I am a practicing Native American, a very difficult thing to be, the Red Road is highly suspect in our dominating christian culture. Our religion books are NOT given shelf space in the religion section at Borders. I was also a Girl Scout leader for about ten years, very active in the Adult Coordinating Team (ACT), a teriffic experience.
I decided to end the drug war as my own personal service project, but it has been very personally difficult. Harder than I thought it would be. I know we are both interested in this stuff, so please, ask me some questions. Reply to the kindGSL email if you are interested in pen pal-dom. Thanks.
Sincerely,
Lauren
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Andrew never answers me directly, but I do see him respond to my ideas from time to time in his blog or on TV. I don't think he wants to acknowledge me, or the validity of my issues. He is all about religion, promoting his, denying mine. There are others like that, they are getting lots of play on the telly. The secret reasons for prohibition are all about religion.
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Also, it seems to me that the biggest obstacle in legalization of marijuana is the tobacco companies. Marijuana's easy for anyone to grow. Tobacco is not. If you're going to smoke something, they want it to be a Camel or a Marlboro that you can't grow without them.
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TERRIBLE!!!
I agree with making marijuana legal. LET'S DO IT IN 2009!!! NOT 2008.
Has the left learned nothing? In 2008, let's get the Fascists out of government, not embrace another hot button issue that will bring out the conservatives in droves.
In 2008, DON'T EVEN SAY THE WORD MARIJUANA! Come on, liberals. LET'S BE SMART FOR ONCE.
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Posted by: Eezee on Feb 14, 2008 4:25 AM
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As soon as marijuana usage is stripped of its appeal as being cool, educated, liberal and open-minded, it will be found to be just another stupid habit.
I say legalize pot and each and every self-opinionated American will be fighting against its usage.
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1937
we must keep our white women away from black men
marijuana makes white women seek relations with black men
didnt do the paleface much good did it!!!!!!
wanna know what i think the whole thing is all about
PENIS size envy
YEP I SAID IT
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NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Smoking a joint a day is just as bad for you as smoking a pack of cigarettes a day, a study from New Zealand indicates.
Smoking a joint a day for one year boosted the likelihood of developing lung cancer by 8 percent, Dr. Richard Beasley of the Medical Research Institute of New Zealand in Wellington and colleagues found, while cigarette smokers' risk increased by 7 percent for every year that they smoked a pack a day.
The heaviest pot smokers were at nearly six-fold greater risk of lung cancer compared to people who didn't smoke marijuana.
"The balance of evidence would suggest a positive association between cannabis and lung cancer," Beasley and his team conclude in the February issue of the European Respiratory Journal.
Evidence on the lung cancer-pot smoking link has been mixed, while legal issues as well as difficulty in quantifying marijuana use make studying pot's health effects difficult, the researchers note.
Since New Zealand has high rates of both pot smoking and lung cancer, and the nation's marijuana users rarely mix weed with tobacco, it "represents an ideal country in which to study the association between cannabis and respiratory tract cancer," the researchers say.
To that end, the researchers matched 79 lung cancer patients with 324 healthy controls, all of whom were younger than 55 years. Study participants' smoking habits were quantified using joint years (one for every year during which a person smoked a joint every day) or pack years (one per year during which a person smoked a pack daily).
Overall marijuana smoking, which the researchers defined as having smoked at least 20 joints in one's lifetime, didn't increase lung cancer risk. However, people who had more than 10.5 joint years under their belts were 5.7 times more likely to be lung cancer patients.
Based on the findings, the researchers say, about 5 percent of lung cancer cases among people 55 and younger in New Zealand could be due to pot smoking.
The researchers think worldwide efforts to reduce tobacco smoking "may need to include greater initiatives to reduce cannabis smoking and should be directed particularly at young people."
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The real problem with drug policy reform, in my opinion, is that reformers depend on 1. educating the masses and 2. gaining the sympathies of an unsympathetic self interested society.
Educating the masses is a hopeless effort since the masses are a constantly changing melting pot. It is also politically backward, in a REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY, to set a goal of educating the public before gaining the interests of representatives. In our representative democracy it is politicians who adopt a policy and take that policy to the masses in the form of policy initiatives and platform. The education of the masses part happens as a result of politicians raising the debate.
Gaining the sympathies of self-interested Americans is a hopeless effort. They support the drug laws out of self interest. Misguided self interest to be sure. But that is their motivation and it will not change as long as it is not trumped by a superior self interest. We will achieve more by telling non-users and disinterested Americans how drug policy reform will help them. Make their lives better and safer.
We get politicians interested in a policy two ways. One, education of the willing. Two, coercion of the unwilling. Coercion is just another way of confronting the politician's self interests in persuading them to adopt a reform position.
Number two is simpler than it may seem and effective in American politics. Threaten the political viability of politicians. Make it clear that you will withhold your vote from politicians who do not support reform. Write negatively critical letters to the editor about intransigent politicians. Not just about pot but about all issues that can effect public opinion on that politician. The Granite State medical pot folks have done a tremendous job of confronting politicians in this election cycle. They single-handedly dragged the entire Democratic field to take moderated positions of medical pot enforcement using publicly confrontational tactics that threaten politicians by simply forcing them to make public statements.
Rather than try to get non-using/non-reform minded Americans to be sympathetic to the interests of people who they have happily oppressed for three dozen years, what is needed is to show them how it is in their best interest to end the prohibition.
-Local government budgets are a total disaster and drug enforcement is a big part of this problem.
-There are more criminals on our streets BECAUSE the drug laws are defining more and more people as criminals thus consigning them to the criminal economy for sustenance.
-The drug war black market economy funds terrorism as it supports more criminals in America.
-The over-crowded prisons foster higher rates of deadly diseases like AIDs and TB among people who can't afford medical help and so become burdens on ALL America.
-The millions of Americans criminally disenfranchised amounts to greater numbers than decided the previous two presidential elections.
These are the superior self interests that will make Americans reconsider their petty self interested but misguided desire to oppress drug users. For whatever reasons they have for doing it.
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This is at the heart of the marijuana issue. Yes, there are money issues like all the people in the criminal justice system who make money but that's missing the main point. The main point is that marijuana frees us from the "spell" that life is an exercise in control ... that our PURPOSE here is to "make money."
Money is a means of control and marijuana is a liberator from the "money spell."
I find it interesting that in Oregon, where they have medical marijuana, you have to pay $100 for a permit to grow marijuana but you aren't allow to sell it to the "patients" who need it. How exactly are you supposed to cover your expenses for growing the marijuana? Please.
It's all about money.
Marijuana is supporting our economy in a number of ways. If we weren't "making money" with marijuana we would have to fix the broken money system and possibly replace it with something better. ( gasp! communism? )
Remember, one of the reasons people use for marijuana prohibition is that it makes people lazy. We all know in the back of our minds that we must OPPRESS OTHERS in order to succed in this economic system. Marijuana makes it harder to do this so we must remove marijuana from society.
It's about money, but in ways that are far more sinister than the obvious ones.
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Does that mean you are now a shit-for-brains straight guy ? Leaving an opening like that could be indicitive of such a "condition."
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