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The Federal War on Medical Marijuana Becomes a War on Children
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You may not buy the government's characterization of its campaign against medical marijuana patients as a "war on drugs," but increasingly violent, militaristic tactics in recent months offer a troubling glimpse into the federal law enforcement community's mentality: To them, this is war.
Raids on medical marijuana dispensaries throughout California on July 17 by federal Drug Enforcement Administration agents, often with local law enforcement officers in tow, seemed designed to send a clear signal that the feds were deliberately escalating their war on medical marijuana patients.
The enemy, then, are people like Ronnie Naulls, a Riverside medical marijuana patient who owned two of the dispensaries raided that day.
A church-going family man who used medical marijuana to ease chronic pain from injuries sustained in a 2001 car accident, Naulls already had two successful businesses -- one as an IT consultant and another as a real estate property manager -- when he established the Healing Nations Collective to save fellow Corona patients the hours-long drive to Los Angeles for medicine.
By all accounts, Naulls ran his collectives with exemplary scrupulousness. He maintained strict dress codes and professional standards for all employees. He paid state taxes on the dispensaries -- amounting to several hundred thousand dollars a year -- even when loose tax regulations allowed other dispensary owners to slip through the cracks. Profits from the dispensaries went to local and national cancer organizations.
Nevertheless, at 5:50 a.m., July 17, Naulls' home and businesses were invaded by DEA agents armed with shotguns, automatic rifles -- even helicopters. They seized everything he owned: his businesses, his property, all of his accounts.
But that wasn't the worst of it. County child protective services came along on the raid and took Naulls' three daughters, aged 1 to 5, and charged him and his wife with child endangerment. They weren't even accused of breaking any state laws.
When Naulls spoke to his children in their foster home, the oldest said, "Daddy, we're ready to come home now. We promise to be good."
Of course they were too young to understand that they were victims of the strong-arm tactics of drug warriors whose goal was probably to make Naulls regret helping fellow patients receive their medicine in a safe, compassionate environment. Who cares if that means ruining a family financially, imprisoning the parents and traumatizing the children?
Federal drug warriors have shown no sign of letting up since then, as dispensary raids have continued steadily in California and Oregon. The DEA has even found creative ways to open new fronts in its war by threatening to go after landlords who lease property to licensed dispensaries.
But why now? Why risk provoking the American public's outrage by escalating its war on medical marijuana patients? Here's one possible explanation: They're losing, and they know it.
While federal law enforcement agencies are busy wasting time and money harassing innocent citizens like Naulls and his family, the rest of the country shows increasing impatience with the government's bullying tactics.
In fact, thanks in large part to the efforts of MPP's Granite Staters for Medical Marijuana, every single Democratic presidential candidate has come out against federal intrusion in medical marijuana states. Two Republican candidates, Texas Rep. Ron Paul and Colorado Rep. Tom Tancredo, have also voiced strong support for the rights of states to establish medical marijuana laws.
These candidates understand that the vast majority of Americans oppose the federal government's war on medical marijuana patients.
Then again, if the late comedian Bill Hicks was right when he said a war means two armies fighting each other, then this was never really a war, anyway. After all, the ranks of suffering Americans, though large, are hardly an imposing threat to the well-equipped federal forces bent on their destruction.
Instead of calling it a war, perhaps there's a more accurate phrase to describe what we've witnessed from federal law enforcement this summer. How does "pogrom on medical marijuana patients" sound?
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Posted by: Eat Politicians on Sep 25, 2007 1:26 AM
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It's just sad...
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Posted by: Camilla Cracchiolo on Sep 25, 2007 2:52 AM
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And it's a real crock that marijuana is classified as having no medical benefits! I've worked in emergency rooms where LIQUID COCAINE was available for ophthalmic emergencies (it's old, but still remains one of the best eye anesthetics). COCAINE is classified as having medical uses but marijuana isn't??? Give me a break....
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Posted by: maxpayne on Sep 25, 2007 6:05 AM
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By the way, Ron Paul has been fighting to legalize hemp. Other than Kucinich, name me one single Democrat in the House let alone the Senate ready to give this a chance.
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Posted by: jeffrey7 on Sep 25, 2007 6:53 AM
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Hemp is the safest most theraputically active substance know to man. There is no drug maker that can say that,truthfully. Every ad on TV tells you the side effects are often worse than the symptom you're trying to get rid of for even just a simple allergy drug.
A war based society such as ours,knows all too well that you're not going to have a strong killing machine if the members are stoned. There has never been a fist fight at any pot party I was ever at. The same is true for medical hemp. They know we humans will offer some to our friends and family the have illnesses that hemp could help with. As such there's every chance that our teenagers will find and try some. The result is often teens that are more peaceful less apt to fighting,and not easily fooled by slick propagandas used by the Gov't to get the society amped up for war.
Understand this clearly. Our Gov't and big business make piles of money off of the manufacture,sales and use of weapons of war. Peace is the last thing they want. But if they went into pot production,they'd make about the same money.
Plus the future generations will be less apt to finding the graves of the warmongers and pissing on them.
The intolerance of Medical Hemp is indicitive of the intolerance the Gov't has for true freedom and Liberty for it's people. It's time to toss out these worn out shoes and have another hit....of FREE AIR!
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Posted by: TheProphet on Sep 25, 2007 8:14 AM
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The CIA has long been a drug pusher. Read the late (assassinated) Gary Webb's book Dark Alliance. The Bush crime family has been drug dealing since the opium trade wars with China. And Sr. was head of the CIA.
They are only interested in power and money. And by providing you the drugs you want while making it illegal to use them they've created a system that protects the mega producers while punishing the users -- just look at our prison system today!
By keeping mj illegal they are certain to keep control over the population, over you and me. Caught with mj and you can be incarcerated like many other hundreds of thousands have been.
The criminals are running the government; and sadly, there appears to be no end in sight to their rule. Unfortunately, Hillary or Obama will be more of the same 'corporate' and 'elitest' rule, also known as 'fascism'.
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Posted by: Julie007 on Sep 25, 2007 9:20 AM
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I wonder how many children in america have ended up homeless because of civil forfeiture, and the "war on drugs"?
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Posted by: MAD on Sep 25, 2007 11:33 AM
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Drugs are big, no, huge business. Opiates and alkaloids alone account for anywhere between $500 billion to $1 trillion in annual sales globally. Keeping drugs illegal is the only method of maintaining soaring prices (even in times of outright depression) and maximizing profits for the central bankers and Fortune 500 corps that must NECESSARILY launder such sizable amount of money. Can't launder $50 billion at the local 7-Eleven, now can ya? Anyone notice how Opium production has increased to record highs in Afghanistan AFTER the US invaded? Coincidence? I doubt it. Production had fallen to record lows during the reign of the Taliban.
Anyone who believes that a country which allows millions of children to go without health insurance yet proclaims itself the anointed defender of your children against the spectacularly malevolent joint is full of shit and a goddamn hypocrite to boot. They don't care if your baby dies from a treatable disease but they spend billions, which would ironically pay for health insurance and treatment should your child become dependent, maintaining artificially inflated prices.
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Posted by: picket on Sep 25, 2007 11:49 AM
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This is the 'gossip' around town....LEO's are walking the woods and if they find more that 5 Cannabis plants in a patch they dig a trench and wait for the POT CRIMINALS to show up. Helicopters fly low looking for backyard gardens.
Money spent is no object to our Legislators....and apparently average taxpayers do not care. The FBI reported 9/24/07 in 2006 had the largest total number of arrests for Cannabis ever recorded by the FBI [829,625].... 89% for simple possession only.
Most of us will be long dead and society will be paying the price for the bad public policy and unjust laws put upon the citizens of the USA.
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Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Sep 25, 2007 12:13 PM
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It was spelled out back in 1968 by FBI COINTLEPRO undercover agents: "Be alert for the opportunity to have activists arrested on drug charges. Immediately inform local authorities if you have knowledge of a 'drug party', and strongly encourage them to take action."
as well as "Activists on student campuses should be closely monitored, and efforts should be made to separate them from their schools, using any means available. Anonyous letters describing their activities can be sent to university officials, for example."
There's also the drug asset seizure laws, which pad the budgets of local DAs, sherrifs and city police forces.
There's also the racism factor, which means that minorities are regularly targeted by DAs and police for possessing tiny amounts of cannabis.
COINTELPRO never ended, despite all the Congressional hearings, and is still active today.
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Posted by: sidguppy on Sep 25, 2007 1:01 PM
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it's about fascism, building police state and showing those who think they can get away with civil disobedience who's in charge
ever since the '60's the Us government (and most EU governments follow slavishly) started a war on culture. the "flowerpower culture' where people of all colors and types mixed, where people started to think independedly.
the 'system' of war-economics and the military industrial complex won't stand for that, hence the demise of that culture in the '70's and the replacement of popular drugs from that era (weed, hashies, musgrooms, acid) by other drugs (speed,amphetamines, cocaine, heroine, crack, meth, crystal, pcp)....it's all about control.
don't you wonder why it's so much harder to come by any drug of the first group (none of wich is addicting) and much easier to get those of the second group (ALL of wich are addicting!)
people who can think for themselves and act on that are a direct threat for the government (any government) and also for the coorporatist elites that pull the strings of that government.
and they can and will use their stormtroopers (aka SWAT, police etc) to repress any independant thinking or civil disobedience, even if those are helping the sick, the poor, the different.
it never was about the "grass" itself; it was and will be about who's in control, who will rule the sheeple, the slaves.
these people who tear apart families and send in attack dogs and gunship helicopters on a family with 5 year olds have no ethics, no consience. they act drunk on their own power and damn the consequences.......
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I think that this experiment in democracy is over.
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Posted by: woody, tokin' librul on Sep 25, 2007 4:09 PM
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More than ALL OTHER BUSTS COMBINED.
THE foremost opponent of legalized marijuana in California is the Prison Guards' union: without pot busts, there's not as much need for Guards. There's never gonna be a better example of the synergy of the corporate state.
As in ALL USer 'wars,' it's the Bidness that matters.
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Posted by: Lycas7x on Sep 25, 2007 9:23 PM
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My life is emotional pain. I tappered off the stuff too. Life is just too damn difficult even if your not terminal ill. Lets give these people a little comfort in their final hour. I'm not in favor of medical marijuana. They should just let everybody smoke it, but I'll stay off it now unless I'm going thru KEMO or get AIDS. I just feel free. I can work anywhere(almost, I got a record). I use to teach. What a joke. There isn't one blasted thing these right wingers need to transmit to the next generation. There is nothing worth saving! They'll blame everything on the liberal... watch.
I can't defend anybody that wants to use recreationally. These people want you to experience the full brunt of this world they have created(We all read this liberal media) I believe we have our work cut out for us. We cant do anything high on crack or behind bars... or sitting at our computers after work.
Love your family, careers and wives. Stay married to the same woman if you bother to do so. Don't go to a church that doesn't feed you or tells you who to sleep with. Think twice about nascar and football, you might as well be drunk. Give dope to your sick parents. The governments not going to do it.
I actually use to fear communism, our gov't doing all the things we were afraid of in 1984 and animal farm (orwell)Be weary of your worst fears. Freedom is not a forced solution. That's hardly safe. What are they protecting us from?
Education is the answer to the drug problem. The govenment thinks were all stupid and rich. Who can afford anything? You need to make a life for yourself and find your own happiness doing what you enjoy. Think about it, who really cares about drugs anyway? Cant they focus on healthcare? The gov't could be paying for these places.
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Posted by: LeeAnnG on Sep 26, 2007 1:06 PM
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After he was busted, my friend left town, got his old job back and gave up on his chance to finish college.
There are many reasons why marijuana and hemp are illegal in this country. It's pretty simplistic to attribute it to just rightwing religious notions, or just a way for the police to make money, or just the drug companies or those that might be harmed by the use of hemp for clothing and other products. It's undoubtedly all of these reasons, along with some we can't even conceive of.
Because of the complexity of the problem, it's even harder to change the system. The drug war and the consequences of it have harmed far more people than the use of marijuana ever could. It is a mind-altering substance that is no more harmful than alcohol or tobacco - in fact, from everything I've read, it's far less harmful.
So smoking a joint in the privacy of your home is considered to be a dangerous activity by our government and moral overseers, but spending years of your life in prison is a beneficial experience. Rationality is obviously not one of the factors involved.
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Posted by: Eat Politicians on Sep 25, 2007 1:26 AM
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Posted by: Camilla Cracchiolo on Sep 25, 2007 2:52 AM
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And it's a real crock that marijuana is classified as having no medical benefits! I've worked in emergency rooms where LIQUID COCAINE was available for ophthalmic emergencies (it's old, but still remains one of the best eye anesthetics). COCAINE is classified as having medical uses but marijuana isn't??? Give me a break....
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Posted by: maxpayne on Sep 25, 2007 6:05 AM
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By the way, Ron Paul has been fighting to legalize hemp. Other than Kucinich, name me one single Democrat in the House let alone the Senate ready to give this a chance.
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Posted by: jeffrey7 on Sep 25, 2007 6:53 AM
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Hemp is the safest most theraputically active substance know to man. There is no drug maker that can say that,truthfully. Every ad on TV tells you the side effects are often worse than the symptom you're trying to get rid of for even just a simple allergy drug.
A war based society such as ours,knows all too well that you're not going to have a strong killing machine if the members are stoned. There has never been a fist fight at any pot party I was ever at. The same is true for medical hemp. They know we humans will offer some to our friends and family the have illnesses that hemp could help with. As such there's every chance that our teenagers will find and try some. The result is often teens that are more peaceful less apt to fighting,and not easily fooled by slick propagandas used by the Gov't to get the society amped up for war.
Understand this clearly. Our Gov't and big business make piles of money off of the manufacture,sales and use of weapons of war. Peace is the last thing they want. But if they went into pot production,they'd make about the same money.
Plus the future generations will be less apt to finding the graves of the warmongers and pissing on them.
The intolerance of Medical Hemp is indicitive of the intolerance the Gov't has for true freedom and Liberty for it's people. It's time to toss out these worn out shoes and have another hit....of FREE AIR!
Think Outside the System
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Posted by: TheProphet on Sep 25, 2007 8:14 AM
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The CIA has long been a drug pusher. Read the late (assassinated) Gary Webb's book Dark Alliance. The Bush crime family has been drug dealing since the opium trade wars with China. And Sr. was head of the CIA.
They are only interested in power and money. And by providing you the drugs you want while making it illegal to use them they've created a system that protects the mega producers while punishing the users -- just look at our prison system today!
By keeping mj illegal they are certain to keep control over the population, over you and me. Caught with mj and you can be incarcerated like many other hundreds of thousands have been.
The criminals are running the government; and sadly, there appears to be no end in sight to their rule. Unfortunately, Hillary or Obama will be more of the same 'corporate' and 'elitest' rule, also known as 'fascism'.
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Posted by: Julie007 on Sep 25, 2007 9:20 AM
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I wonder how many children in america have ended up homeless because of civil forfeiture, and the "war on drugs"?
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Posted by: MAD on Sep 25, 2007 11:33 AM
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Drugs are big, no, huge business. Opiates and alkaloids alone account for anywhere between $500 billion to $1 trillion in annual sales globally. Keeping drugs illegal is the only method of maintaining soaring prices (even in times of outright depression) and maximizing profits for the central bankers and Fortune 500 corps that must NECESSARILY launder such sizable amount of money. Can't launder $50 billion at the local 7-Eleven, now can ya? Anyone notice how Opium production has increased to record highs in Afghanistan AFTER the US invaded? Coincidence? I doubt it. Production had fallen to record lows during the reign of the Taliban.
Anyone who believes that a country which allows millions of children to go without health insurance yet proclaims itself the anointed defender of your children against the spectacularly malevolent joint is full of shit and a goddamn hypocrite to boot. They don't care if your baby dies from a treatable disease but they spend billions, which would ironically pay for health insurance and treatment should your child become dependent, maintaining artificially inflated prices.
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Posted by: picket on Sep 25, 2007 11:49 AM
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This is the 'gossip' around town....LEO's are walking the woods and if they find more that 5 Cannabis plants in a patch they dig a trench and wait for the POT CRIMINALS to show up. Helicopters fly low looking for backyard gardens.
Money spent is no object to our Legislators....and apparently average taxpayers do not care. The FBI reported 9/24/07 in 2006 had the largest total number of arrests for Cannabis ever recorded by the FBI [829,625].... 89% for simple possession only.
Most of us will be long dead and society will be paying the price for the bad public policy and unjust laws put upon the citizens of the USA.
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Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Sep 25, 2007 12:13 PM
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It was spelled out back in 1968 by FBI COINTLEPRO undercover agents: "Be alert for the opportunity to have activists arrested on drug charges. Immediately inform local authorities if you have knowledge of a 'drug party', and strongly encourage them to take action."
as well as "Activists on student campuses should be closely monitored, and efforts should be made to separate them from their schools, using any means available. Anonyous letters describing their activities can be sent to university officials, for example."
There's also the drug asset seizure laws, which pad the budgets of local DAs, sherrifs and city police forces.
There's also the racism factor, which means that minorities are regularly targeted by DAs and police for possessing tiny amounts of cannabis.
COINTELPRO never ended, despite all the Congressional hearings, and is still active today.
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Posted by: sidguppy on Sep 25, 2007 1:01 PM
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it's about fascism, building police state and showing those who think they can get away with civil disobedience who's in charge
ever since the '60's the Us government (and most EU governments follow slavishly) started a war on culture. the "flowerpower culture' where people of all colors and types mixed, where people started to think independedly.
the 'system' of war-economics and the military industrial complex won't stand for that, hence the demise of that culture in the '70's and the replacement of popular drugs from that era (weed, hashies, musgrooms, acid) by other drugs (speed,amphetamines, cocaine, heroine, crack, meth, crystal, pcp)....it's all about control.
don't you wonder why it's so much harder to come by any drug of the first group (none of wich is addicting) and much easier to get those of the second group (ALL of wich are addicting!)
people who can think for themselves and act on that are a direct threat for the government (any government) and also for the coorporatist elites that pull the strings of that government.
and they can and will use their stormtroopers (aka SWAT, police etc) to repress any independant thinking or civil disobedience, even if those are helping the sick, the poor, the different.
it never was about the "grass" itself; it was and will be about who's in control, who will rule the sheeple, the slaves.
these people who tear apart families and send in attack dogs and gunship helicopters on a family with 5 year olds have no ethics, no consience. they act drunk on their own power and damn the consequences.......
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Posted by: LMNOP on Sep 25, 2007 1:25 PM
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I think that this experiment in democracy is over.
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Posted by: american on Sep 25, 2007 1:41 PM
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Posted by: woody, tokin' librul on Sep 25, 2007 4:09 PM
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More than ALL OTHER BUSTS COMBINED.
THE foremost opponent of legalized marijuana in California is the Prison Guards' union: without pot busts, there's not as much need for Guards. There's never gonna be a better example of the synergy of the corporate state.
As in ALL USer 'wars,' it's the Bidness that matters.
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Posted by: Lycas7x on Sep 25, 2007 9:23 PM
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My life is emotional pain. I tappered off the stuff too. Life is just too damn difficult even if your not terminal ill. Lets give these people a little comfort in their final hour. I'm not in favor of medical marijuana. They should just let everybody smoke it, but I'll stay off it now unless I'm going thru KEMO or get AIDS. I just feel free. I can work anywhere(almost, I got a record). I use to teach. What a joke. There isn't one blasted thing these right wingers need to transmit to the next generation. There is nothing worth saving! They'll blame everything on the liberal... watch.
I can't defend anybody that wants to use recreationally. These people want you to experience the full brunt of this world they have created(We all read this liberal media) I believe we have our work cut out for us. We cant do anything high on crack or behind bars... or sitting at our computers after work.
Love your family, careers and wives. Stay married to the same woman if you bother to do so. Don't go to a church that doesn't feed you or tells you who to sleep with. Think twice about nascar and football, you might as well be drunk. Give dope to your sick parents. The governments not going to do it.
I actually use to fear communism, our gov't doing all the things we were afraid of in 1984 and animal farm (orwell)Be weary of your worst fears. Freedom is not a forced solution. That's hardly safe. What are they protecting us from?
Education is the answer to the drug problem. The govenment thinks were all stupid and rich. Who can afford anything? You need to make a life for yourself and find your own happiness doing what you enjoy. Think about it, who really cares about drugs anyway? Cant they focus on healthcare? The gov't could be paying for these places.
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Posted by: LeeAnnG on Sep 26, 2007 1:06 PM
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After he was busted, my friend left town, got his old job back and gave up on his chance to finish college.
There are many reasons why marijuana and hemp are illegal in this country. It's pretty simplistic to attribute it to just rightwing religious notions, or just a way for the police to make money, or just the drug companies or those that might be harmed by the use of hemp for clothing and other products. It's undoubtedly all of these reasons, along with some we can't even conceive of.
Because of the complexity of the problem, it's even harder to change the system. The drug war and the consequences of it have harmed far more people than the use of marijuana ever could. It is a mind-altering substance that is no more harmful than alcohol or tobacco - in fact, from everything I've read, it's far less harmful.
So smoking a joint in the privacy of your home is considered to be a dangerous activity by our government and moral overseers, but spending years of your life in prison is a beneficial experience. Rationality is obviously not one of the factors involved.
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