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So Much for Big Pharma's 'Anti-Pot' Pill
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Rimonabant does not possess a "favorable risk-benefit profile" to warrant U.S. market approval, members of the FDA's Endocrinologic and Metabolic Drug advisory panel determined in a 14-0 vote. Panelists reported that patients prescribed Rimonabant experienced increased incidences of depression, nausea, vomiting, and suicidal tendencies. Adverse neurological symptoms in some patients were also reported.
The expert panel's rejection sent shares of Sanofi stock plummeting and may have worldwide implications. Last summer European regulators gave preliminary approval to the pill, which has now been prescribed to some 100,000 patients under the trade name Acomplia. However, following Wednesday's unanimous decision, representatives of the European Medicines Agency immediately announced that they will begin hearings to consider recalling the drug.
For Sanofi stockholders and analysts, who had predicted that pharmaceutical giant's "anti-pot" pill could one day rake in some $3 billion in annual profits, the news is a disappointing financial setback. But to health experts familiar with the workings of Rimonabant and similar drugs, the FDA panel's decision comes as little surprise and is long overdue.
The dark side of Acomplia
As a weight loss drug, Rimonabant is far from a miracle cure. In controlled studies, patients who ceased taking Rimonabant typically gained their weight back -- implying that the drug may have to be prescribed indefinitely. It's that likelihood, coupled with the drug's reported and potential side effects, that have raised eyebrows among the scientific community.
Because the endocannabinoid system is involved in the regulation of a broad range of primary biological functions -- including appetite, mood regulation, blood pressure, bone density, reproduction, learning capacity, and motor coordination -- some experts are concerned that the long-term use of Rimonabant and/or similar drugs to counteract it could contribute to a host of significant adverse health effects. Animal data appears to substantiate this concern. Newborn mice injected with Rimonabant refuse feeding and often die days after birth. Mice genetically bred to lack certain cannabinoid receptors also suffer from numerous health defects such as cognitive decline, hypoalgesia, decreased locomotor activity and increased mortality compared to healthy controls. Could similar risks await long-term users of Rimonabant?
Dr. Franjo Grotenhermen, director of the Association for Cannabis as Medicine (ACM) in Germany, states, "One of the major functions of the endocannabinoid system is the protection of nerve cells from damage by overactivation of neurotransmitters," Grotenhermen says. "The long-term use of [endocannabinoid] receptor antagonists may impair this neuroprotective effect with an accelerated loss of nerve cells and negative consequences on brain functions such as memory."
Investigators at Amsterdam's Vrije University (the Netherlands) express a similar viewpoint. Writing recently in the journal Multiple Sclerosis, they report of a 46-year-old woman who was diagnosed with the disease after taking Rimonabant daily for seven months. They note that the woman had no prior history of neurological symptoms before taking the drug and that the patient recovered to "near normal" several weeks after discontinuing the medication. "It does not seem implausible that [endocannabinoid] antagonism may cause [central nervous system damage] in susceptible subjects," they concluded.
Among patients administered Rimonabant in clinical trials, many report experiencing adverse effects such as nausea, anxiety and depression. According to published data, more than 15 percent of subjects who try the drug discontinue its use because of intolerable side effects. In addition, at least one study of the drug reported a 2.7-fold increased risk of psychiatric disorders in Acomplia users. Dr. Mitch Earleywine, author of Understanding Marijuana: A New Look at the Scientific Evidence (Oxford University Press, 2002), isn't surprised. "Given what we are now learning about the endocannabinoid system, one would think that any blocking of its receptors, especially long-term, would be an invitation for a host of negative health consequences involving pain, brain function, and mood -- particularly depression," he says.
At yesterday's hearing, FDA experts voiced similar concerns and recommended the agency shelve the drug when it makes its official determination next month. If so, it will be the second time the FDA has refused to grant market approval to Rimonabant, which Sanofi initially tried to sell in the United States as a prescription smoking-cessation agent. Ultimately, in the eyes of the FDA, a healthy body needs all the "pot" it can get.
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Posted by: Obijuan on Jun 15, 2007 2:34 AM
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There is a disconnect between neuroscience and big-pharma which is the root cause of this problem. The usual short-cuts used by drug companies don't work anymore. This is just a particularly striking example.
obi
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Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Jun 15, 2007 6:13 AM
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Anyone else notice how utterly FUCKED UP the priorities this drug caters to are????
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Posted by: drricklippin on Jun 15, 2007 7:06 AM
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If you dissect this story therin lies the huge fiasco-now criminal- Big PhRMA has become
I predicted this meltdown 5 years ago, in 2002. but now I am forecasting indictments and jail time for some Big PhRMA CEOS
Here is my 2002 forecast
“Major Trouble ahead for Pharmaceutical firms”
1)Classical example of how greed and arrogance and the excesses of the free market takes something that is truly miraculous (life saving drugs/vaccines) and moves it to excess which then "backfires" See Teller -"When Technology Bites Back" or Dutton “ Worse Than The Disease"
2)Direct marketing to consumers on TV is a real debacle- the pharm companies come across as bone-fide drug pushers which they have become!
3)Science will show an increasing number of pharm products do more harm than good. They may be "efficacious" BUT THEY ARE NOT SAFE- grossly underestimated as contributing to cancer for example-see prempro story recently
4)Polypharmacy is running rampant- too many drugs for too many conditions in an individual- will get MUCH WORSE as naive boomers age and take more and more mixed meds
5)Psychotropics, analgesics and sedating antihistamines are contributing to serious safety problems on America’s highways and workplaces and who knows what other errors in judgment by leaders with this stuff swirling around their brains
6)Medications, especially psychotropics and analgesics are migrating in alarmingly large quantities to illicit market (eg. Oxycotin)
7)Yet politically, denying NEEDED drugs to elderly is hottest political issue going-another one is denying affordable drugs to millions dying of aids especially in Africa. So some populations are UNDERMEDICATED. Many in US are OVERMEDICATED
8)In high density populations there is the issue of ultimate ENVIRONMENTAL FATE in soil and water of human excreted medicines and/or their metabolites
9)Congressional Hearings ahead with tone of Tobacco and Asbestos
Richard A. Lippin, MD
Health Sector forecaster-July 2002
http://medicalcrises.blogspot.com
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Posted by: Gravitas on Jun 15, 2007 8:23 AM
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"Weight obsession is a social disease. If we cared more about CO2 than BMI there MIGHT still be time."
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Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Jun 15, 2007 9:17 AM
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However, as a lot of kids and adults know, you just need to take more Ritalin and Adderall to get the full meth effect - and if you crush the pills up and snort them, they work even better.
Guess how many studies there are in the US of whether or not Ritalin et al lead to meth abuse in adults? What do you think happens when the meth prescription wears off? People rush out to their nearest crank dealer to get their supply!
So, why is this? Why is medical meth broadly supported by the FDA, HHS and Big Pharma, while medical cannabis is roundly condemned by all of the above, as well as by the DEA and the local sherrifs, police and DAs?
Two reasons, folks:
1) Medical meth is under patent protection, meaning that Big Pharma can make huge profits off the sales. Meth costs next to nothing to produce (which is why there are so many clandestine street producers), but under patent protection, only a few Big Pharma corps can sell it - Pfizer, etc. Medical cannabis is a plant and cannot be patented, any more than coffee or caffeine could be patented (or sugar, for that matter). If medical cannabis is allowed, Big Pharma will lose billions in profits as people switch to this cheap pain/nausea medication - it works better than the heroin knockoffs as well. You'd see a massive loss in Big Pharma's market share.
2) The DEA, the local DA, and the police and sherrifs departments make millions of dollars every year by seizing property from cannabis users. It's a racket - they go after people who are growing cannabis for personal use, but only if they have seizable assets - cars, money and houses. If you look into this, you'll find a huge amount of corruption. Cops prefer to target cannabis users over meth users because the meth types tend to be crazy, violent and armed to the teeth with guns of all kinds. They'd rather bust a stoned college kid and seize the nice car his parents gave him than try and bust in on some psychotic freak in a trailer park who has no assets other than a pit bull, an assault weapon and a kilo of crank.
Remarkable, isn't it? How do they get away with it? It's called propaganda, public relations - a massive effort to mislead the public, which is heavily promoted by the corporate media.
Notice, for example, how the drugs used by the Virginia Tech shooter were never made public? How is autopsy was never made public? How the whole story was buried? The guy was under pharmaceutical outpatient treatment, and we don;'t even know what he was taking! The same is true for the Columbine shooters.
Big Pharma is the most powerful lobby in Washington, by far.
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Posted by: Lauren on Jun 16, 2007 10:16 AM
Current rating: 5 [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Wow!
That is exactly what I am treating, and very well - thank you, with my medical marijuana.
The symptoms I know very well having always experienced them as stress reactions. (I can even feel the levels of cortizole in my body, chronically high at this point, it is aging me rapidly.)
I wish my husband would realize pot is an excellent medicine for me, he calls it an addiction. I find this very offensive to my religion, I knew what it was like to play in Shiva's garden well before I ever toked. It's funny, I remember one dead concert where this guy was saying whatever I was on, he wanted some of that. I just laughed, I wasn't on anything, I am a natural.
Krishna consciousness is something I just do naturally from time to time, so I really resent it that he tries so hard to keep me from using a medicine that, one, helps me keep balanced, two, cope with life's difficulties and three, live in a more spiritual, even religious state.
It is a completion thing with him, he is jealous of my attention.
I want to defend myself from that witch down at city hall. She thinks I am a dazed and stupid pot-head. You know, the tie-dye kind you can see a mile away, she's right about that and she has good reason.
I really could not understand how the process worked in her office. This was not because she didn't explain it well or because I couldn't understand what she was saying. It was because I couldn't understand.
It didn't match what the boy scout had told me. I could not believe he had lied to me.
You see, I had to trust him. It was a choice I was forced to make and once made, I could not believe he could not be trustworthy. Therefore, I could not understand how the permit filing process worked. It was contrary to what he had told me, I knew the clerk was not lying to me, thus the process was overwhelmingly confusing.
It was a moral disconnect that I just could not accept at that point. Later the boy scout turned out to be very untrustworthy, and the clerk thinks I am a total fool.
My neighbor, a REAL Indian, and I were down there yesterday talking to the staff again. They've allowed our mutual neighbor to employ a man full time to grind metal for nearly a year. The noise is nasty. We both have complained about it a lot, with tax payer funded visits from our city officials, only to be repeatedly told to live with it.
Yesterday I went armed with the ordinances that are being violated. I am trying to convince my neighbor it is ethnic/religious discrimination against us because of my project. The city and I have some history on that. She thinks it is just the good 'ole boys network sticking it to some women. Either way, the ordinance is going to have to be enforced at some point. I love the sport, like I tell her that I know what I am doing, just as the guy actually reading the ordinance is realizing the city has been acting in the wrong.
I let him hang there for a while with that uncomfortable thought, before asking what our next step should be.
You always want to give the institution discriminating against you an opportunity to make amends and start doing the right thing. When that fails get them to make some act, as in this case, tell us to write a letter.
I think they are being stupid down there. It is a very small town, they have a reputation to project. My friend and I have been talking to all kinds of people, asking them what is wrong with our city government. Calling other cities for advice and my favorite, asking Real Estate agents what they think.
Oh yeah, I'll write a letter.
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Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Jun 16, 2007 1:31 PM
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okay, its official.
Euro BigPharm has officially jumped the shark in trying to appeal to the US drug market:
vanity
sloth
fear
Sadly, I suspect the only reason it was rejected by the US Drug Administration is because it wasn't made in the USA...
...which co-incidentally was Chris Rock's theory on why pot is the bête noir of US Federal Policies.
xenophobic US BigPharm & secret services are terrified of a FREE, wild, mind-altering compound that competes with the highly profitable, domestic addictive compounds & services...
What are the characteristics of *socially networked* drug users... by the very traits of the chronic (punny, its not) users:
Cocaine = "narcissistic, socially-engaged, turbo-charged, paranoid & ruthless"
Morphine = "isolated, apathetic or wild-eyed & desperate addiction"
Booze = "social, invincible, slower & extroverted..."
etc... etc... etc... everybody recognizes the argument... but think about the *personal characteristics* of a social circle's dynamics...
pot = "a detachment of Thought from physical responses, succeptibility to noodling on Theory or Ideas, reduced anxiety responses to new paradigms or philosophies, social, relaxed, gregarious, increased patience... "
gee, which do you think Busheviks prefer in a controlled social experiment 'labelled' "Democratic Republic"?
My suspicion is that BigPharm product is probably flawed, but I imagine that its isn't because the US would not love to have a domestic product that could achieve the same ends.
Oh, that's Right... they've got FauxNooze & the distinguished, Compliant Members of the APA.
In the meantime, it makes a great means to remove Progressive voters with a fauxcrime, doesn't it?
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Posted by: ataran on Jun 19, 2007 12:45 PM
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2. What are the statistics? How many people thought about or tried to commit suicide? Two or 95%? I only heard about 1 instance of MS that could be POSSIBLY be connected.
3. If this were, indeed, an "anti pot" pill, don't you think the USA would jump on approval since pot seems to be so evil in the governments eyes?
My conclusion is that the adverse effects of Zimullti/Acomplia are, indeed, clinically manageable, and that obese people still suffer because of the mentality that they just need to diet and exercise. Unfortunately for the USA, people who will take it in spite of the FDA, will just spend their money buying it online in the many other countries where it is available.
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Posted by: hRIOR on Jun 21, 2007 7:53 PM
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Sounds dangerous to me!
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Posted by: Obijuan on Jun 15, 2007 2:34 AM
Current rating: 5 [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
There is a disconnect between neuroscience and big-pharma which is the root cause of this problem. The usual short-cuts used by drug companies don't work anymore. This is just a particularly striking example.
obi
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» The answer is.. there was no huge cut for any Americans...
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Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Jun 15, 2007 6:13 AM
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Anyone else notice how utterly FUCKED UP the priorities this drug caters to are????
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» I wonder how they, umm, found out this pill counteracts pot
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» Seriously.. given our government for the last.. oh... half decade or so..
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Posted by: drricklippin on Jun 15, 2007 7:06 AM
Current rating: 5 [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
If you dissect this story therin lies the huge fiasco-now criminal- Big PhRMA has become
I predicted this meltdown 5 years ago, in 2002. but now I am forecasting indictments and jail time for some Big PhRMA CEOS
Here is my 2002 forecast
“Major Trouble ahead for Pharmaceutical firms”
1)Classical example of how greed and arrogance and the excesses of the free market takes something that is truly miraculous (life saving drugs/vaccines) and moves it to excess which then "backfires" See Teller -"When Technology Bites Back" or Dutton “ Worse Than The Disease"
2)Direct marketing to consumers on TV is a real debacle- the pharm companies come across as bone-fide drug pushers which they have become!
3)Science will show an increasing number of pharm products do more harm than good. They may be "efficacious" BUT THEY ARE NOT SAFE- grossly underestimated as contributing to cancer for example-see prempro story recently
4)Polypharmacy is running rampant- too many drugs for too many conditions in an individual- will get MUCH WORSE as naive boomers age and take more and more mixed meds
5)Psychotropics, analgesics and sedating antihistamines are contributing to serious safety problems on America’s highways and workplaces and who knows what other errors in judgment by leaders with this stuff swirling around their brains
6)Medications, especially psychotropics and analgesics are migrating in alarmingly large quantities to illicit market (eg. Oxycotin)
7)Yet politically, denying NEEDED drugs to elderly is hottest political issue going-another one is denying affordable drugs to millions dying of aids especially in Africa. So some populations are UNDERMEDICATED. Many in US are OVERMEDICATED
8)In high density populations there is the issue of ultimate ENVIRONMENTAL FATE in soil and water of human excreted medicines and/or their metabolites
9)Congressional Hearings ahead with tone of Tobacco and Asbestos
Richard A. Lippin, MD
Health Sector forecaster-July 2002
http://medicalcrises.blogspot.com
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Posted by: Gravitas on Jun 15, 2007 8:23 AM
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"Weight obsession is a social disease. If we cared more about CO2 than BMI there MIGHT still be time."
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Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Jun 15, 2007 9:17 AM
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However, as a lot of kids and adults know, you just need to take more Ritalin and Adderall to get the full meth effect - and if you crush the pills up and snort them, they work even better.
Guess how many studies there are in the US of whether or not Ritalin et al lead to meth abuse in adults? What do you think happens when the meth prescription wears off? People rush out to their nearest crank dealer to get their supply!
So, why is this? Why is medical meth broadly supported by the FDA, HHS and Big Pharma, while medical cannabis is roundly condemned by all of the above, as well as by the DEA and the local sherrifs, police and DAs?
Two reasons, folks:
1) Medical meth is under patent protection, meaning that Big Pharma can make huge profits off the sales. Meth costs next to nothing to produce (which is why there are so many clandestine street producers), but under patent protection, only a few Big Pharma corps can sell it - Pfizer, etc. Medical cannabis is a plant and cannot be patented, any more than coffee or caffeine could be patented (or sugar, for that matter). If medical cannabis is allowed, Big Pharma will lose billions in profits as people switch to this cheap pain/nausea medication - it works better than the heroin knockoffs as well. You'd see a massive loss in Big Pharma's market share.
2) The DEA, the local DA, and the police and sherrifs departments make millions of dollars every year by seizing property from cannabis users. It's a racket - they go after people who are growing cannabis for personal use, but only if they have seizable assets - cars, money and houses. If you look into this, you'll find a huge amount of corruption. Cops prefer to target cannabis users over meth users because the meth types tend to be crazy, violent and armed to the teeth with guns of all kinds. They'd rather bust a stoned college kid and seize the nice car his parents gave him than try and bust in on some psychotic freak in a trailer park who has no assets other than a pit bull, an assault weapon and a kilo of crank.
Remarkable, isn't it? How do they get away with it? It's called propaganda, public relations - a massive effort to mislead the public, which is heavily promoted by the corporate media.
Notice, for example, how the drugs used by the Virginia Tech shooter were never made public? How is autopsy was never made public? How the whole story was buried? The guy was under pharmaceutical outpatient treatment, and we don;'t even know what he was taking! The same is true for the Columbine shooters.
Big Pharma is the most powerful lobby in Washington, by far.
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Posted by: Lauren on Jun 16, 2007 10:16 AM
Current rating: 5 [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Wow!
That is exactly what I am treating, and very well - thank you, with my medical marijuana.
The symptoms I know very well having always experienced them as stress reactions. (I can even feel the levels of cortizole in my body, chronically high at this point, it is aging me rapidly.)
I wish my husband would realize pot is an excellent medicine for me, he calls it an addiction. I find this very offensive to my religion, I knew what it was like to play in Shiva's garden well before I ever toked. It's funny, I remember one dead concert where this guy was saying whatever I was on, he wanted some of that. I just laughed, I wasn't on anything, I am a natural.
Krishna consciousness is something I just do naturally from time to time, so I really resent it that he tries so hard to keep me from using a medicine that, one, helps me keep balanced, two, cope with life's difficulties and three, live in a more spiritual, even religious state.
It is a completion thing with him, he is jealous of my attention.
I want to defend myself from that witch down at city hall. She thinks I am a dazed and stupid pot-head. You know, the tie-dye kind you can see a mile away, she's right about that and she has good reason.
I really could not understand how the process worked in her office. This was not because she didn't explain it well or because I couldn't understand what she was saying. It was because I couldn't understand.
It didn't match what the boy scout had told me. I could not believe he had lied to me.
You see, I had to trust him. It was a choice I was forced to make and once made, I could not believe he could not be trustworthy. Therefore, I could not understand how the permit filing process worked. It was contrary to what he had told me, I knew the clerk was not lying to me, thus the process was overwhelmingly confusing.
It was a moral disconnect that I just could not accept at that point. Later the boy scout turned out to be very untrustworthy, and the clerk thinks I am a total fool.
My neighbor, a REAL Indian, and I were down there yesterday talking to the staff again. They've allowed our mutual neighbor to employ a man full time to grind metal for nearly a year. The noise is nasty. We both have complained about it a lot, with tax payer funded visits from our city officials, only to be repeatedly told to live with it.
Yesterday I went armed with the ordinances that are being violated. I am trying to convince my neighbor it is ethnic/religious discrimination against us because of my project. The city and I have some history on that. She thinks it is just the good 'ole boys network sticking it to some women. Either way, the ordinance is going to have to be enforced at some point. I love the sport, like I tell her that I know what I am doing, just as the guy actually reading the ordinance is realizing the city has been acting in the wrong.
I let him hang there for a while with that uncomfortable thought, before asking what our next step should be.
You always want to give the institution discriminating against you an opportunity to make amends and start doing the right thing. When that fails get them to make some act, as in this case, tell us to write a letter.
I think they are being stupid down there. It is a very small town, they have a reputation to project. My friend and I have been talking to all kinds of people, asking them what is wrong with our city government. Calling other cities for advice and my favorite, asking Real Estate agents what they think.
Oh yeah, I'll write a letter.
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Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Jun 16, 2007 1:31 PM
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okay, its official.
Euro BigPharm has officially jumped the shark in trying to appeal to the US drug market:
vanity
sloth
fear
Sadly, I suspect the only reason it was rejected by the US Drug Administration is because it wasn't made in the USA...
...which co-incidentally was Chris Rock's theory on why pot is the bête noir of US Federal Policies.
xenophobic US BigPharm & secret services are terrified of a FREE, wild, mind-altering compound that competes with the highly profitable, domestic addictive compounds & services...
What are the characteristics of *socially networked* drug users... by the very traits of the chronic (punny, its not) users:
Cocaine = "narcissistic, socially-engaged, turbo-charged, paranoid & ruthless"
Morphine = "isolated, apathetic or wild-eyed & desperate addiction"
Booze = "social, invincible, slower & extroverted..."
etc... etc... etc... everybody recognizes the argument... but think about the *personal characteristics* of a social circle's dynamics...
pot = "a detachment of Thought from physical responses, succeptibility to noodling on Theory or Ideas, reduced anxiety responses to new paradigms or philosophies, social, relaxed, gregarious, increased patience... "
gee, which do you think Busheviks prefer in a controlled social experiment 'labelled' "Democratic Republic"?
My suspicion is that BigPharm product is probably flawed, but I imagine that its isn't because the US would not love to have a domestic product that could achieve the same ends.
Oh, that's Right... they've got FauxNooze & the distinguished, Compliant Members of the APA.
In the meantime, it makes a great means to remove Progressive voters with a fauxcrime, doesn't it?
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Posted by: ataran on Jun 19, 2007 12:45 PM
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2. What are the statistics? How many people thought about or tried to commit suicide? Two or 95%? I only heard about 1 instance of MS that could be POSSIBLY be connected.
3. If this were, indeed, an "anti pot" pill, don't you think the USA would jump on approval since pot seems to be so evil in the governments eyes?
My conclusion is that the adverse effects of Zimullti/Acomplia are, indeed, clinically manageable, and that obese people still suffer because of the mentality that they just need to diet and exercise. Unfortunately for the USA, people who will take it in spite of the FDA, will just spend their money buying it online in the many other countries where it is available.
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Posted by: gellero on Jun 21, 2007 1:13 AM
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» ... reduces FauxNooze anxiety, too...
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Posted by: hRIOR on Jun 21, 2007 7:53 PM
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Sounds dangerous to me!
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