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U.S. Border Patrol Bars Canadian Psychotherapist With Drug Research Far in His Past
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The psychotherapist's world was about to turn upside down.
Born in Hungary to Jewish parents as the Nazis were rising to power, Feldmar was hidden from the Nazis during the Holocaust when he was three years old, after his parents were condemned to Auschwitz. Miraculously, his parents both returned alive and in 1945 Hungary was liberated by the Russian army. Feldmar escaped from communist Hungary in 1956 when he was 16 and immigrated to Canada. He has been married to Meredith Feldmar, an artist, for 37 years, and they live in Vancouver's Kitsilano neighbourhood. They have two children, Soma, 33, who lives in Denver, and Marcel, 36, a resident of L.A. Highly respected in his field, Feldmar has been travelling to the U.S. for work and to see his family five or six times a year. He has worked for the UN, in Sarajevo and in Minsk with Chernobyl victims.
The Blaine border guard explained that Feldmar had been pulled out of the line as part of a random search. He seemed friendly, even as he took away Feldmar's passport and car keys. While the contents of his car were being searched, Feldmar and the officer talked. He asked Feldmar what profession he was in.
When Feldmar said he was psychologist, the official typed his name into his Internet search engine. Before long the customs guard was engrossed in an article Feldmar had published in the spring 2001 issue of the journal Janus Head. The article concerned an acid trip Feldmar had taken in London, Ontario, and another in London, England, almost forty years ago. It also alluded to the fact that he had used hallucinogenics as a "path" to understanding self and that in certain cases, he reflected, it could "be preferable to psychiatry." Everything seemed to collapse around him, as a quiet day crossing the border began to turn into a nightmare.
Fingerprints for FBI
He was told to sit down on a folding chair and for hours he wondered where this was going. He checked his watch and thought hopelessly of his friend who was about to land at the Seattle airport. Three hours later, the official motioned him into a small, barren room with an American flag. He was sitting on one side and Feldmar was on the other. The official said that under the Homeland Security Act, Feldmar was being denied entry due to "narcotics" use. LSD is not a narcotic substance, Feldmar tried to explain, but an entheogen. The guard wasn't interested in technicalities. He asked for a statement from Feldmar admitting to having used LSD and he fingerprinted Feldmar for an FBI file.
Then Feldmar disbelievingly listened as he learned that he was being barred from ever entering the United States again. The officer told him he could apply to the Department of Homeland Security for a waiver, if he wished, and gave him a package, with the forms.
The border guard then escorted him to his car and made sure he did a U-turn and went back to Canada.
'Curious. Very curious'
Feldmar attended the University of Toronto where he graduated with honours in mathematics, physics and chemistry. He received his M.A. in psychology from the University of Western Ontario. At University of Western Ontario, he was under supervision with Zenon Pylyshyn, who was from Saskatchewan and had participated, along with Abram Hoffer and Duncan Blewett, in the first experiments with LSD-25.
"Zenon told me he had had enough strange experiences, that he had gone about as far with LSD as he wished to go. He still had what was once legal. ... Looking back 33 years, I don't quite recall why I decided to accept his tentative offer. I was 27 years old and thought of myself as a rational scientist, and had no experience with delirium, hallucination, or altered mind states. I was curious. Very curious. I thought that, like Faust, I might make a pact with the devil in return for esoteric knowledge."
Zenon gave him 900 micrograms of acid and the surprise of his life, he wrote in the Janus Head article. "Following this initiation, I traveled to many regions many times with the help of many different substances. I took peyote, psilocybin mushrooms, cannabis, MDMA, DMT, ketamine, nitrous oxide 5-MEO-DMT, but I kept coming back to LSD. Acid seemed my most spacious, most helpful ally. While on it, I explored my past, regressed to the womb, to my conception. I remembered, grieved, and mourned many painful events. I saw how my parents would have liked to love me, and how they didn't because they didn't know how. I learned, on acid, to endure troubling and frightening states of mind. This enabled me, as meditation has done, to identify with being the witness of the workings of my mind, observing whatever was going on, while knowing that I was simply captivated by the forms produced by my own psyche."
After receiving his MA, Feldmar spent a semester in the U.S. at the Johns Hopkins University's Ph.D. program in theoretical statistics. In 1969, he began Ph.D. work with Dr. Charles Osgood in psycholinguistics at the University of Illinois at Champagne Urbana. He did further Ph.D. studies at Simon Fraser University.
Legal options expensive
Feldmar was determined, in the months after the aborted border crossing, to turn things around. He was particularly determined because the idea of not being able to visit his children at their homes was unthinkable.
He contacted the U.S. Consul in Vancouver to protest and was again told to apply for a waiver. When he consulted Seattle attorney Bob Free at MacDonald, Hoague and Bayless about going through this process, he learned that for $3,500 (U.S.) plus incidentals, he'd have a 90 per cent chance to get the waiver, but it would probably be just for a year, and the procedure would have to be initiated again, any time he wished to cross the border. Each time, he would have to produce a statement saying that he had been "rehabilitated."
He looked into filing suit against the U.S. government for wrongdoing but gave up the idea when he learned that a legal battle with U.S. Customs would cost his life's savings and, with the balance of power tipped so extremely in the government's favor, he would almost surely lose.
Again, he appealed to the U.S. Consulate. The consulate wouldn't return his phone calls, but in this e-mail message to Feldmar, the consulate explained its position.
"Both our countries have very similar regulations regarding issuance of visas for citizens who have violated the law. The issue here is not the writing of an article, but the taking of controlled substances. I hear from American citizens all the time who have decades-old DUI convictions who are barred from entry into Canada and who must apply for waivers. Same thing here. Waiver is the only way."
Ensnared by Section IV
"Admitted drug use is admitted drug use," says Mike Milne, spokesman for U.S. border and protection, based in Seattle. Milne said he could not comment specifically on the Feldmar case, due to privacy issues, but he quoted from the U.S. Immigration Law Handbook section which refers to "general classes of aliens ineligible to receive visas and ineligible for admissions" to help shed light on the clauses that may have ensnared the Vancouver psychotherapist.
"Persons with AIDS, tuberculosis, infectious diseases are inadmissible," Milne said. And then there is Section IV. "Anyone who is determined to be a drug abuser or user is inadmissible. A crime involving moral turpitude is inadmissible and one of those areas is a violation of controlled substances."
If there's no criminal record, as in Feldmar's case?
Not necessarily the criterion, Milne said. You can still be considered dangerous.
'More diligent and vigilant'
"The level of scrutiny at our nation's borders have definitely gone up since the 9-11 disaster and we are more diligent and vigilant in checking people's identities and criminal histories at our nation's borders."
Milne goes on, "There are three main areas that we have employed since 9-11 to better secure our borders. First is the number of officers we have working at our borders. We've doubled the numbers at the border. We've combined officers from Homeland Security and border protection. We brought in the officers from immigration and naturalization service, the department of agriculture and U.S. border patrol. By combining the expertise of those disparate border agencies into a single agency under a single management with the single purpose of protecting the U.S. against terrorism and other related offences, it created a more effective border agency. It created a more secure border.
"The second thing would be our information systems, our watch list systems are better shared within the U.S. government and between governments, between information sharing agreements, through Interpol, through terrorist watch list sharing internationally, we have better access for our front line officers to query information systems up to and including public based systems, including the Internet. Third, we have better infrastructure at our entries. We have cameras in some of our more remote points of entry, gates, lighting, to make them more secure. We do more checks at the borders. It depends on what level of alert we're at. At certain alert levels we do 100 per cent identity checks."
War on drugs meets war on terror
Eugene Oscapella is an Ottawa lawyer, who lectures on drug policy issues in the department of criminology at the University of Ottawa. He also works as a policy advisor to a range of government agencies and departments, including the Office of the Privacy Commissioner of Canada. Oscapella sees the American security system upgrades and the potential uses alarming.
"This is about the marriage of the war on drugs and the war on terror, and the blind, bureaucratic mindset it encourages. Government surveillance in the name of the war on drugs and the war on terror is in danger of making us all open books to zealous governments. As someone mentioned at a privacy conference I attended in London, U.K., several months ago, all the tools for an authoritarian state are now in place; it's just that we haven't yet adopted authoritarian methods. But in the area of drugs, maybe we have."
'Ominous omen'
Feldmar was in the process of considering whether to apply for a waiver when he sought help from Ethan Nadlemann, director of the Drug Policy Alliance in New York, whose financial backer is another Hungarian, George Soros.
Nadlemann was outraged. "Nobel Peace prize winners, some of the great scientists and writers in the world have experimented with LSD in their time. We know people are being pulled out of lines and racially profiled as part of the war against terrorism. But this is a different kind of travesty, banning someone because they used a substance in another country thirty years ago," he said.
In February he wrote Feldmar, "Not that it helps much, but I just want you to know that I have not forgotten you or your situation. I feel frustrated vis a vis the media, and on other avenues, but I am not forgetting. I really think this situation is absurd, and an ominous omen of things to come."
When Feldmar was barred from entering the U.S., he joined the ranks of other intellectuals and artists. Pop singer Cat Stevens was turned back from the U.S. in 2004, after being detained. Bolivian human rights leader and lawyer, Leonida Zurita Vargas was prevented from entering in February of 2006. She was planning to be in the U.S. as part of a three week speaking tour on Bolivian social movements and human rights. The tour would have taken her to Vermont, Harvard, Stanford and Washington D.C., but she never got beyond the airport check-in at Santa Cruz, Bolivia where she was informed her ten-year visa had been revoked because of alleged links to terrorist activity.
'Ideological exclusion provision'
The U.S. Department of Homeland Security denied Professor John Milios entry into the country upon his arrival at John F. Kennedy International Airport last June. Milios, a faculty member at the National Technical University of Athens, had planned to present a paper at a conference titled "How Class Works" at the State University of New York at Stony Brook. Milios told Academe Online that U.S. officials questioned him at the airport about his political ideas and affiliations and that the American consul in Athens later queried him about the same subjects. Milios, a member of a left-wing political party, is active in Greek national politics and has twice been a candidate for the Greek parliament. Milios's visa, issued in 1996, was set to expire in November. The professor had previously been allowed entry into the United States on five separate occasions to participate in academic meetings.
The American Civil Liberties Union, on behalf of the American Academy of Religion, the American Association of University Professors and PEN American Center, filed a lawsuit this year challenging a provision of the Patriot Act that is being used to deny visas to foreign scholars. They did this after Professor Tariq Ramadan, a Swiss intellectual, had his visa revoked under "the ideological exclusion provision" of the Patriot Act, preventing him from assuming a tenured teaching position at the University of Notre Dame. It's a suit that attempts to prevent the practice of ideological exclusion more generally, a practice that led to the recent exclusions of Dora Maria Tellez, a Nicaraguan scholar who had been offered a position at Harvard University, as well as numerous scholars from Cuba.
In March 2005, the ACLU filed a Freedom of Information Act request to learn more about the government's use of the Patriot Act ideological exclusion provision. Cuban Grammy nominee Ibrahim Ferrer, 77, who came to fame in the 1999 film Buena Vista Social Club, was blocked by the U.S. government from attending the Grammy Awards, where he was nominated for the Best Latin album award in 2004. So were his fellow musicians Guillermo Rubalcaba, Amadito Valdes, Barbarito Torres and the group Septeto Nacional with Ignacio Pineiro. The list goes on.
Cut off from friends
Nine months after being turned back at the border, Feldmar has concluded that his banishment is permanent. The waiver process is exhausting, costly and demeaning. The David and Goliath aspect of the situation is too daunting.
This is devastating to his family and friends. "My father was doing nothing wrong, illegal, suspicious, or at all deviant in any way, when he was trying to visit the U.S.," his daughter, Soma, an instructor at a Denver college, says. "In terms of family it really sucks. "
It's hard for his friend, Alphonso Lingis, a professor of philosophy at Pennsylvania State University. "I'm deeply pained by the prospect of no longer being able to welcome him in the United States," Lingis said. "The notion that he and his work could harm anyone is preposterous. He's a victim of scandalous bureaucratic incompetence by the United States officials involved in this matter."
'Alchemist's dictum'
When Feldmar looks back on what has happened, he concludes that he was operating out of a sense of safety that has become dated in the last six years, since 9-11. His real mistake was to write about his drug experiences and post this on the web, even in a respected journal like Janus Head. He acknowledges that he had not considered posting on the Internet the risk that it turned out to be. So many of his generation share his experience in experimenting with drugs, after all. He believed it was safe to communicate about the past from the depth of retrospection and that this would be a useful grain of personal wisdom to share with others. He now warns his friends to think twice before they post anything about their personal lives on the web.
"I didn't heed the ancient Alchemists' dictum, 'Do, dare, and be silent,'" Feldmar says. "And yet, the experience of being treated as undesirable was shocking. The helplessness, the utter uselessness of trying to be seen as I know myself and as I am known generally by those I care about and who care about me, the reduction of me to an undesirable offender, was truly frightening. I became aware of the fragility of my identity, the brittleness of a way of life.
"Memories of having been the object of the objectifying gaze crowd into my mind. I have been seen and labeled as a Jew, as a Communist, as a D. P. (Displaced Person), as a student, as a patient, a man, a Hungarian, a refugee, an émigré, an immigrant. ... Now I am being seen as one of those drug users, perhaps an addict, perhaps a dealer, one can't be sure. In the matter of a second, I became powerless, whatever I said wasn't going to be taken seriously. I was labeled, sorted and disposed of. Dismissed."
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Posted by: Monitor523 on Apr 25, 2007 2:09 AM
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It would be interesting if the notion of presumption of innocence and due process were to be applied even to non-citizens, wouldn't it? But then, we already knew that.
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"His real mistake was to write about his drug experiences and post this on the web, even in a respected journal like Janus Head. He acknowledges that he had not considered posting on the Internet the risk that it turned out to be."
1984 is now, and methinks Alternet is a mole.
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They prescribed it for Autism, Schizophrenia and Epilepsy, and made hundreds of times more doses of it than could have possibly been used for the authorized treatment options.
It was made illegal effective January 1, 1967 but there was still Eli Lilly pharmaceutical tabs of acid for sale 10 years later.
But it gets scarier still, folks.
That wall and the travel between neighborhoods in Baghdad, close monitoring of the population,
their entire phone/communications system has been tapped since at least the late 80s,
a nation whose population was only 20 million and mostly concentrated in 3 cities, the whole country only the size of Oklahoma,
all these things which FAILED to make the country secure under the occupation, are being proposed seriously for use right here in the Land of the Free, (which is just the words to a song and has no legal effect)
Fascist freaks like Michelle Malkin are advocating such measures and more...
Not able to cross an international border? HAH!
If Malkin and Ashcroft and their Travelling Freakshow have their way you won't be able to go across Anytown, USA without going through the same kinds of checkpoints.
It didn't work in Iraq, it didn't work for the Soviets, it didn't work for the NeoCons' biggest Hero Success Story --Nazi Germany,
It sure as fuck ain't going to work here.
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Posted by: PeaceGecko on Apr 25, 2007 5:18 AM
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Preventing someone from legally entering the country based on the fact that he once used hallucinogenic drugs which at the time were legal in the US, is, is a far as I can tell, a blatant example of a "retroactive" or "ex post facto" law. You cannot punish people for breaking laws which did not exist at the time. Therefore, such an action is a flagrant violation of the very principles of our own constitution.
This is far and away from what was supposed to be the stated purpose of the "homeland security" act, which was supposed to ensure that another terrorist act on the scale of the 9-11 terrorist attack would not be allowed to happen.
In a way, though, I'm rather glad that the Bush administration is stupid enough to reveal the fact that we are now living in a fascist police state at this time. At least it gives me a chance to get my brothers and sisters out of the US while I still have a chance to get them out!
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Posted by: Slosteppin on Apr 25, 2007 5:32 AM
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"Both our countries have very similar regulations regarding issuance of visas for citizens who have violated the law. The issue here is not the writing of an article, but the taking of controlled substances. I hear from American citizens all the time who have decades-old DUI convictions who are barred from entry into Canada and who must apply for waivers. Same thing here. Waiver is the only way."
In general, I see the Homeland Security as a bunch of ineffective nonsense. OTOH, I find the above statement interesting. About 10 years ago my son Doug, his wife and I were driving back to Michigan from northern Maine. When Doug was asked if he had ever been arrested he said yes, about 15 years ago for DUI. After much discussion and phone called to the police in our hometown we were told we could drive through, with a $350 fine.
I wanted to drive around, which would have taken an extra day, but Doug wanted to pay the fine and go through. I had to loan him the money.
I will never go to Canada again!
Now our border laws are more stupid than theirs.
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It's not just drugs, it's the demonstration that any activity of your life, no matter what the context, is a liability if you are a free-thinker or an experimenter. And let's not forget that the US has now claimed the power to detain terror suspects without a writ of habeas corpus. As I heard Rep. Jerry Nadler, a member of the House Judiciary Committee, say over the weekend, "I never thought I'd live to see the Magna Carta revoked."
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Posted by: WhatNow? on Apr 25, 2007 6:15 AM
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I guess waivers and denials are only for people who might have ideas that are adverse to the corrupt system that the US government has become and the Canadian government is becoming.
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Artitcle I, section 8.
To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.
So "we the people" are allowing the Congress to deligate their responsibility. Shame on us.
Having regulations made by administrative bodies in the executive branch and publicished for comment is not making law by the legislative branch.
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Welcome to Amerika.
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Posted by: Knowmad on Apr 25, 2007 8:01 AM
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One line in the article stuck with me:
“Three hours later, the official motioned him into a small, barren room with an American flag.”
Does that not remind you of every third world border crossing you’ve read about or seen in movies? Perhaps an image of where your society is headed if reasonable people don’t persevere.
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Posted by: MartianBachelor on Apr 25, 2007 8:37 AM
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I think an implied corollary of the First Amendment is the right to hear all speech, not just make it. While not coming here specifically to give a public lecture, Feldman does seem to be receiving unfair treatment at the border because of his public speech. But how do they know he wasn't just making it all up and trying to pass it off as non-fiction, like Carlos Casteneda? If they take him at his word (i.e., find him believable), then isn't that a justification for letting him in, not keeping him out?
Ironically, the publicity surrounding these events will have many searching to see just wtf was so objectionable about a mild-manner older gentleman with a publication record. Reports of experiences from that era where research was with well-quantified doses from a pharmaceutical grade supply are not all that common, especially up in the relatively high 0.9mg range, so Feldman's work is valuable and irreplaceable, all the more so because of his professional training and background.
More classic Leary:
"Monotheism is the primitive religion which centers human consciousness on Hive Authority. There is One God and His Name is _____ (substitute Hive-Label). If there is only One God then there is no choice, no option, no selection of reality. There is only Submission or Heresy. The word Islam means 'submission'. The basic posture of Christianity is kneeling." * The Intelligence Agents (1996)
Each religion has got their own way of making you feel like a victim. * Timothy Leary's Last Trip (1997)
Throughout human history, as our species has faced the frightening, terrorizing fact that we do not know who we are, or where we are going in this ocean of chaos, it has been the authorities — the political, the religious, the educational authorities — who attempted to comfort us by giving us order, rules, regulations, informing — forming in our minds — their view of reality. To think for yourself you must question authority and learn how to put yourself in a state of vulnerable open-mindedness, chaotic, confused vulnerability to inform yourself. * How to Operate Your Brain
No wonder Ronald Reagan thought he was the most dangerous man in America.
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Posted by: BristolSea on Apr 25, 2007 9:28 AM
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In another incident, I recall the time I came across the border in Blaine returning from Vancouver, and a border guard, without asking, opened the door to the backseat of my car and pulled out my backpack to search it. A simple courtesy of asking permission would have made me feel less like a criminal, it's not as if I could say no or speed away. It's a night an day difference between the treatment you receive entering Canada as compared to the treatment you receive entering the US.
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Posted by: Bulldog on Apr 25, 2007 9:47 AM
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This woman had been one of the psychologists/parapsychologists involved with the CIA sponsored mind-altering experiments of the 1960's conducted by Tim Leary at UCLA-Berkeley & later with Ken Kesey (author of "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest"), at Stanford. I volunteered to let her try some form of 'rebirth-hypnosis' on me.
I naturally pulled a 'Good will Hunting' - on the shrink's couch episode; she became irate & then physically threatening.
So, suspicious of her motives, I proceeded to build a sizeable report on what she told us, what I overheard or could glean about her from my neighbour & 'oh-boy' does it expose some unique revelations from a working partner in the US-Government sanctioned LSD mind experiments in US Universities in the 1960's.
These revelations will be transcribed to a dedicated page at Juntawatch.com in the next 96 hrs. The delay is due to my BSc computing examination timetables. Sorry!
There, follow this US Government 'Acid test' agent/disciple as she leaves a Presidential-guard Naval Research 'remote viewing' project & becomes an actual modern-day 'Knights-Templar', globally condemning the Islamic faith as too 'involutionary' to respect self-proclaimed divine 'Christian' teachers like herself! This is part of her work during her 20-year world speaking tour!
Unfortunately timed in her case, as her 20-year tour of blasphemy ended just two years before 9/11!
I wouldn't like to be her during her next return trip from vacation, if anyone in customs & immigration should get hold of this information & make the connections.
Bookmark my website and go there, say this weekend the 28/29th, by when I will endeavour to get the 1000++ words uploaded.
Yours Truly!
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Posted by: MatthewSavage on Apr 25, 2007 9:50 AM
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If I made a statement, they would immediately call me a liar and tell me what I really meant to say. Didn't seem to matter much what I said, it must be a lie and they knew the truth.
I can well imagine what must have gone on in this guy's case.
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Posted by: eddie torres on Apr 25, 2007 11:01 AM
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Just tell the border agents you're a personal Friend Of Karl Rove.
It works every time.
But don't mention anything about abortion. They'll shove a CIFA TALON search straight up your ancestry.
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Posted by: WitchyNy on Apr 25, 2007 11:06 AM
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I am thinking the smart ones have already gone.
Part of me wants to stay and fight Bush and co. and part of me wants to get out -while I still can.
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» Not many. Nothing unusual.
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became members of Nazi party if one to appear.
Mostly Bush BASE
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Posted by: JohnTodd on Apr 25, 2007 12:19 PM
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I want to avoid Europe - as it's turning into a little Amerika.
Although the liberal Dutch are cool, I guess.
I'd be happy making tables on some tropical island or something. Just sunshine, sand, water, a small productive job, and let me raise a family and kiss my wife.
I am seriously soliciting your answers - what should I do?
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Posted by: The Big Raven on Apr 25, 2007 1:14 PM
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FINELY PEACE!
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Posted by: James T. Swaggart on Apr 25, 2007 2:23 PM
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Step Three: After you get in, don't bother showing up -- go visit your kids, take in a show, snort a little coke, what ev. No one's paying any attention. You'll be back to business as usual in 5-6 weeks with a guaranteed government pension waiting for you when you retire.
Stop crying about the injustice and learn how to play the game.
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Posted by: Ian MacLeod on Apr 25, 2007 6:59 PM
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Shit.
Ian
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Posted by: Ian MacLeod on Apr 25, 2007 7:00 PM
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Shit.
Ian
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Posted by: ateo on Apr 25, 2007 7:07 PM
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I've spoken to many Canadians who have been detained in the U.S. for DUI, reckless driving, drug possession more than once during one of their little trips across the border and they universally believe that the laws of the U.S. do not apply to them because they are not U.S. citizens. All they will say is that the laws of the U.S. are "stupid" and that they are Canadian so "it doesn't matter."
I say good riddance to these foreigners who want to partake in the benefits of U.S. citizenship while disregarding our laws.
You wanna drive 90 miles an hour drunk with your head lights off while in possession of drugs? Stay in Canada. We've got enough of that happening on our side of the border already.
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Posted by: blitzmesser on Apr 25, 2007 7:58 PM
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Andrew Feldmar does not need to provide reasons for his use of LSD, whatsoever. He is a professional, first of all. And even if he were not, if he were just a simple guy, whether he used it for pleasure or research, is nobody's business.
What an idiotic country this is becoming. Just like the decider, who does not have a brain in his head, (or anywhere else, probably.) Everyone with a mind to spare used LSD, smoked pot, and did other mind expanding experiments, including me.
What irony... the janitor at the facility tells you what you need to do as a professor!
If the situation were not reflecting present reality, I would just laugh at this story.
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» well then, set up a fake website, with your picture, detailing
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Posted by: andyc on Apr 26, 2007 5:04 AM
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The unorthodox itinerary evidently triggered alarm bells. The Canadians searched and interrogated me on arrival in Vancouver, so I missed the bus I wanted and had to get the next one, 3 hours later. Then, the US border guards at Blaine decided that I needed a repeat performance, and only my poster convinced them that my conference was for real.
THEN the big b*stard with the moustache asked if I had any US currency, and when I said "yes", demanded $10 from me. This is the ONLY time I have ever had to pay a bribe to officials to cross a border. The USA is the ONLY country out of 20 or so where that has happened to me. I haven't been back since, and am now unlikely to do so again. Anyone who does still want to visit the USA, I'd recommend not to do so overland via Blaine.
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Posted by: DaBear on Apr 26, 2007 1:06 PM
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Yet another reason why the US has no f*cking reason left to exist, other than to house dimwits like the border cop who probably has a 6th grade eddicashun but was able to recite the Pledge of Allegiance backwards while standing on his head.... such things that pass for intelligence and security these days. Reading the assinine comments by typical 'Merkaan stoopids in response to this article furthers my conviction that this whole nation state concept is oh so very OVER!
We need to abandon the whole nation state bullshit. Go to a continental-bioregionally based proportionally representative democracy with NO figurehead executive/president/king/emperor crapshirt. Think what 'd happen if we behaved like grownup human beings continent-wide with no borders other than those that can be biotically determined—truly permeable boundaries. The rich would be not-so and the poor would be not-so. Hell, some types might even hate us a little less (we'd have the folk formerly-known-as-Canadians as cover). Sounds good to me.
Of course, I can imagine all the asshat conservogoons foaming at the mouth already... and now I'll have to cancel my trip to Vancouver because this comment might be seen as cause to bar my re-entry. All thanks to the idiot spoilt rich schmucks who are fucking us down into the hellhole, demanding we salute and sieg heil to the Chimp while singing the Star Spangled Manners...
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» Because we don't let foreign criminals into the U.S.?
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» the US lets bloody chainsaw wielding psychotics into the country.
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Posted by: Monitor523 on Apr 25, 2007 2:09 AM
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It would be interesting if the notion of presumption of innocence and due process were to be applied even to non-citizens, wouldn't it? But then, we already knew that.
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Families are not democratic; schools are not democratic; businesses are not democratic. Cradle to grave, 'Father Knows Best'. Whether smiling and jocular or grumpy and sour, this is capitalism, at its evangelical best.
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Posted by: JMorse on Apr 25, 2007 3:28 AM
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"His real mistake was to write about his drug experiences and post this on the web, even in a respected journal like Janus Head. He acknowledges that he had not considered posting on the Internet the risk that it turned out to be."
1984 is now, and methinks Alternet is a mole.
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Posted by: brotherjonah on Apr 25, 2007 4:08 AM
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They prescribed it for Autism, Schizophrenia and Epilepsy, and made hundreds of times more doses of it than could have possibly been used for the authorized treatment options.
It was made illegal effective January 1, 1967 but there was still Eli Lilly pharmaceutical tabs of acid for sale 10 years later.
But it gets scarier still, folks.
That wall and the travel between neighborhoods in Baghdad, close monitoring of the population,
their entire phone/communications system has been tapped since at least the late 80s,
a nation whose population was only 20 million and mostly concentrated in 3 cities, the whole country only the size of Oklahoma,
all these things which FAILED to make the country secure under the occupation, are being proposed seriously for use right here in the Land of the Free, (which is just the words to a song and has no legal effect)
Fascist freaks like Michelle Malkin are advocating such measures and more...
Not able to cross an international border? HAH!
If Malkin and Ashcroft and their Travelling Freakshow have their way you won't be able to go across Anytown, USA without going through the same kinds of checkpoints.
It didn't work in Iraq, it didn't work for the Soviets, it didn't work for the NeoCons' biggest Hero Success Story --Nazi Germany,
It sure as fuck ain't going to work here.
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Posted by: PeaceGecko on Apr 25, 2007 5:18 AM
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Preventing someone from legally entering the country based on the fact that he once used hallucinogenic drugs which at the time were legal in the US, is, is a far as I can tell, a blatant example of a "retroactive" or "ex post facto" law. You cannot punish people for breaking laws which did not exist at the time. Therefore, such an action is a flagrant violation of the very principles of our own constitution.
This is far and away from what was supposed to be the stated purpose of the "homeland security" act, which was supposed to ensure that another terrorist act on the scale of the 9-11 terrorist attack would not be allowed to happen.
In a way, though, I'm rather glad that the Bush administration is stupid enough to reveal the fact that we are now living in a fascist police state at this time. At least it gives me a chance to get my brothers and sisters out of the US while I still have a chance to get them out!
The PeaceGecko
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Posted by: Slosteppin on Apr 25, 2007 5:32 AM
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"Both our countries have very similar regulations regarding issuance of visas for citizens who have violated the law. The issue here is not the writing of an article, but the taking of controlled substances. I hear from American citizens all the time who have decades-old DUI convictions who are barred from entry into Canada and who must apply for waivers. Same thing here. Waiver is the only way."
In general, I see the Homeland Security as a bunch of ineffective nonsense. OTOH, I find the above statement interesting. About 10 years ago my son Doug, his wife and I were driving back to Michigan from northern Maine. When Doug was asked if he had ever been arrested he said yes, about 15 years ago for DUI. After much discussion and phone called to the police in our hometown we were told we could drive through, with a $350 fine.
I wanted to drive around, which would have taken an extra day, but Doug wanted to pay the fine and go through. I had to loan him the money.
I will never go to Canada again!
Now our border laws are more stupid than theirs.
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Posted by: Urstrly on Apr 25, 2007 5:35 AM
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It's not just drugs, it's the demonstration that any activity of your life, no matter what the context, is a liability if you are a free-thinker or an experimenter. And let's not forget that the US has now claimed the power to detain terror suspects without a writ of habeas corpus. As I heard Rep. Jerry Nadler, a member of the House Judiciary Committee, say over the weekend, "I never thought I'd live to see the Magna Carta revoked."
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Posted by: WhatNow? on Apr 25, 2007 6:15 AM
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I guess waivers and denials are only for people who might have ideas that are adverse to the corrupt system that the US government has become and the Canadian government is becoming.
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Posted by: douglashoyt on Apr 25, 2007 6:40 AM
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Artitcle I, section 8.
To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.
So "we the people" are allowing the Congress to deligate their responsibility. Shame on us.
Having regulations made by administrative bodies in the executive branch and publicished for comment is not making law by the legislative branch.
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Welcome to Amerika.
Hugh E. Scott, editor of King-George.biz -- the only website with hardcopy proof of White House corruption.
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Posted by: Knowmad on Apr 25, 2007 8:01 AM
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One line in the article stuck with me:
“Three hours later, the official motioned him into a small, barren room with an American flag.”
Does that not remind you of every third world border crossing you’ve read about or seen in movies? Perhaps an image of where your society is headed if reasonable people don’t persevere.
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Posted by: MartianBachelor on Apr 25, 2007 8:37 AM
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I think an implied corollary of the First Amendment is the right to hear all speech, not just make it. While not coming here specifically to give a public lecture, Feldman does seem to be receiving unfair treatment at the border because of his public speech. But how do they know he wasn't just making it all up and trying to pass it off as non-fiction, like Carlos Casteneda? If they take him at his word (i.e., find him believable), then isn't that a justification for letting him in, not keeping him out?
Ironically, the publicity surrounding these events will have many searching to see just wtf was so objectionable about a mild-manner older gentleman with a publication record. Reports of experiences from that era where research was with well-quantified doses from a pharmaceutical grade supply are not all that common, especially up in the relatively high 0.9mg range, so Feldman's work is valuable and irreplaceable, all the more so because of his professional training and background.
More classic Leary:
"Monotheism is the primitive religion which centers human consciousness on Hive Authority. There is One God and His Name is _____ (substitute Hive-Label). If there is only One God then there is no choice, no option, no selection of reality. There is only Submission or Heresy. The word Islam means 'submission'. The basic posture of Christianity is kneeling." * The Intelligence Agents (1996)
Each religion has got their own way of making you feel like a victim. * Timothy Leary's Last Trip (1997)
Throughout human history, as our species has faced the frightening, terrorizing fact that we do not know who we are, or where we are going in this ocean of chaos, it has been the authorities — the political, the religious, the educational authorities — who attempted to comfort us by giving us order, rules, regulations, informing — forming in our minds — their view of reality. To think for yourself you must question authority and learn how to put yourself in a state of vulnerable open-mindedness, chaotic, confused vulnerability to inform yourself. * How to Operate Your Brain
No wonder Ronald Reagan thought he was the most dangerous man in America.
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Posted by: BristolSea on Apr 25, 2007 9:28 AM
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In another incident, I recall the time I came across the border in Blaine returning from Vancouver, and a border guard, without asking, opened the door to the backseat of my car and pulled out my backpack to search it. A simple courtesy of asking permission would have made me feel less like a criminal, it's not as if I could say no or speed away. It's a night an day difference between the treatment you receive entering Canada as compared to the treatment you receive entering the US.
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Posted by: Bulldog on Apr 25, 2007 9:47 AM
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This woman had been one of the psychologists/parapsychologists involved with the CIA sponsored mind-altering experiments of the 1960's conducted by Tim Leary at UCLA-Berkeley & later with Ken Kesey (author of "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest"), at Stanford. I volunteered to let her try some form of 'rebirth-hypnosis' on me.
I naturally pulled a 'Good will Hunting' - on the shrink's couch episode; she became irate & then physically threatening.
So, suspicious of her motives, I proceeded to build a sizeable report on what she told us, what I overheard or could glean about her from my neighbour & 'oh-boy' does it expose some unique revelations from a working partner in the US-Government sanctioned LSD mind experiments in US Universities in the 1960's.
These revelations will be transcribed to a dedicated page at Juntawatch.com in the next 96 hrs. The delay is due to my BSc computing examination timetables. Sorry!
There, follow this US Government 'Acid test' agent/disciple as she leaves a Presidential-guard Naval Research 'remote viewing' project & becomes an actual modern-day 'Knights-Templar', globally condemning the Islamic faith as too 'involutionary' to respect self-proclaimed divine 'Christian' teachers like herself! This is part of her work during her 20-year world speaking tour!
Unfortunately timed in her case, as her 20-year tour of blasphemy ended just two years before 9/11!
I wouldn't like to be her during her next return trip from vacation, if anyone in customs & immigration should get hold of this information & make the connections.
Bookmark my website and go there, say this weekend the 28/29th, by when I will endeavour to get the 1000++ words uploaded.
Yours Truly!
G. for Juntawatch.com
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Posted by: MatthewSavage on Apr 25, 2007 9:50 AM
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If I made a statement, they would immediately call me a liar and tell me what I really meant to say. Didn't seem to matter much what I said, it must be a lie and they knew the truth.
I can well imagine what must have gone on in this guy's case.
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Posted by: eddie torres on Apr 25, 2007 11:01 AM
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Just tell the border agents you're a personal Friend Of Karl Rove.
It works every time.
But don't mention anything about abortion. They'll shove a CIFA TALON search straight up your ancestry.
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Posted by: WitchyNy on Apr 25, 2007 11:06 AM
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I am thinking the smart ones have already gone.
Part of me wants to stay and fight Bush and co. and part of me wants to get out -while I still can.
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» Not many. Nothing unusual.
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became members of Nazi party if one to appear.
Mostly Bush BASE
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Posted by: JohnTodd on Apr 25, 2007 12:19 PM
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I want to avoid Europe - as it's turning into a little Amerika.
Although the liberal Dutch are cool, I guess.
I'd be happy making tables on some tropical island or something. Just sunshine, sand, water, a small productive job, and let me raise a family and kiss my wife.
I am seriously soliciting your answers - what should I do?
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FINELY PEACE!
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» Rule #1-Never take advice from someone who can't spell!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted by: James T. Swaggart on Apr 25, 2007 2:23 PM
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Step Three: After you get in, don't bother showing up -- go visit your kids, take in a show, snort a little coke, what ev. No one's paying any attention. You'll be back to business as usual in 5-6 weeks with a guaranteed government pension waiting for you when you retire.
Stop crying about the injustice and learn how to play the game.
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» That's right, you don't make the rules, you just play the game
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Posted by: Ian MacLeod on Apr 25, 2007 6:59 PM
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Shit.
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Posted by: Ian MacLeod on Apr 25, 2007 7:00 PM
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Shit.
Ian
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Posted by: ateo on Apr 25, 2007 7:07 PM
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I've spoken to many Canadians who have been detained in the U.S. for DUI, reckless driving, drug possession more than once during one of their little trips across the border and they universally believe that the laws of the U.S. do not apply to them because they are not U.S. citizens. All they will say is that the laws of the U.S. are "stupid" and that they are Canadian so "it doesn't matter."
I say good riddance to these foreigners who want to partake in the benefits of U.S. citizenship while disregarding our laws.
You wanna drive 90 miles an hour drunk with your head lights off while in possession of drugs? Stay in Canada. We've got enough of that happening on our side of the border already.
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Posted by: blitzmesser on Apr 25, 2007 7:58 PM
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Andrew Feldmar does not need to provide reasons for his use of LSD, whatsoever. He is a professional, first of all. And even if he were not, if he were just a simple guy, whether he used it for pleasure or research, is nobody's business.
What an idiotic country this is becoming. Just like the decider, who does not have a brain in his head, (or anywhere else, probably.) Everyone with a mind to spare used LSD, smoked pot, and did other mind expanding experiments, including me.
What irony... the janitor at the facility tells you what you need to do as a professor!
If the situation were not reflecting present reality, I would just laugh at this story.
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» well then, set up a fake website, with your picture, detailing
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The unorthodox itinerary evidently triggered alarm bells. The Canadians searched and interrogated me on arrival in Vancouver, so I missed the bus I wanted and had to get the next one, 3 hours later. Then, the US border guards at Blaine decided that I needed a repeat performance, and only my poster convinced them that my conference was for real.
THEN the big b*stard with the moustache asked if I had any US currency, and when I said "yes", demanded $10 from me. This is the ONLY time I have ever had to pay a bribe to officials to cross a border. The USA is the ONLY country out of 20 or so where that has happened to me. I haven't been back since, and am now unlikely to do so again. Anyone who does still want to visit the USA, I'd recommend not to do so overland via Blaine.
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Posted by: DaBear on Apr 26, 2007 1:06 PM
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Yet another reason why the US has no f*cking reason left to exist, other than to house dimwits like the border cop who probably has a 6th grade eddicashun but was able to recite the Pledge of Allegiance backwards while standing on his head.... such things that pass for intelligence and security these days. Reading the assinine comments by typical 'Merkaan stoopids in response to this article furthers my conviction that this whole nation state concept is oh so very OVER!
We need to abandon the whole nation state bullshit. Go to a continental-bioregionally based proportionally representative democracy with NO figurehead executive/president/king/emperor crapshirt. Think what 'd happen if we behaved like grownup human beings continent-wide with no borders other than those that can be biotically determined—truly permeable boundaries. The rich would be not-so and the poor would be not-so. Hell, some types might even hate us a little less (we'd have the folk formerly-known-as-Canadians as cover). Sounds good to me.
Of course, I can imagine all the asshat conservogoons foaming at the mouth already... and now I'll have to cancel my trip to Vancouver because this comment might be seen as cause to bar my re-entry. All thanks to the idiot spoilt rich schmucks who are fucking us down into the hellhole, demanding we salute and sieg heil to the Chimp while singing the Star Spangled Manners...
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