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That question -- normally considered a "no-no" in legal circles, especially among prosecutors and police -- has been raised by the prestigious King County (Wash.) Bar Association since 2000. And the results have been impressive. King County is sending minor street drug users and sellers through drug courts instead of incarcerating them; its average daily jail count is down from 2,800 to 2,000. The Washington Legislature was persuaded to cut back drastically on mandatory drug possession sentences, apportioning funds to adult and juvenile drug courts, and family "dependency" courts. Tens of millions of dollars have been saved.
"This project isn't for fringy ponytailed pot smokers," insists Roger Goodman, director of the bar association's Drug Policy Project. "We did it for the courts. We can't get civil cases heard for three years. And the drug cases are mostly so petty."
The uncomfortable truth is that despite decades of aggressive government crackdowns, U.S. drug use and drug-related crime are as high as ever. Made profitable by prohibition, violent criminal enterprises that purvey drugs are flourishing. Harsh criminal sanctions, even for minor drug possession, have packed jails and prisons. Public coffers have been drained of funds for critical preventive social services. Internationally, we're discovering that the U.S.' heavy-handed campaign of illegal drug eradication in countries such as Colombia is about as successful as we've found our parallel military adventure into Iraq.
Despite the stunning $4.7 billion we've spent since 2000 on planes fumigating Colombia's coca crop, farmers there are producing just as much cocaine as before our aerial assault.
Back home, street prices for cocaine have dropped and purity remains high. Prohibition has failed equally to stamp out markets and quality, or increase street prices for heroin, methamphetamine and marijuana. The drug war kicked off by President Nixon in the 1970s, and copied by state and local governments nationally, costs $40 billion or more a year. It is a massive, embarrassing, destructive failure.
But politicians are normally afraid to question the system for fear of being called illegal drug apologists. So how did the King County Bar get the ball rolling? "It's the messenger, not the message" -- the credibility of the bar association, says Goodman. The King County Bar in fact assembled a nationally unprecedented coalition of supporters, ranging from the Washington State Bar Association to the King County and Washington state medical associations, the Church Council of Greater Seattle and the League of Women Voters of Seattle and Washington.
And the first-stated goals weren't scuttling drug laws. Instead, the bar association announced its platform as (1) reductions in crime and disorder -- "to undercut the violent, illegal markets that spawn disease, crime, corruption, mayhem and death," (2) improving public health by stemming the spread of blood-borne diseases, (3) better protection of children from the harm of drugs, and (4) wiser use of scarce public resources.
Now the bar association and its allies are asking the Washington Legislature to establish a commission of experts to design how the state can switch from punitive approaches to a focus on treatment, shutting down the criminal gangs that now control the drug trade.
As controversial as it sounds, programs for victims (most likely adults) of such dangerously addictive drugs as heroin, cocaine and methamphetamine may be easiest to fashion. Rather than leaving them to the streets and black market exploitation, there may -- as some European models suggest -- be ways to register addicts, provide controlled amounts of drugs in medical settings, and try to guide them into treatment.
For marijuana, control by cartels that now provide huge quantities might be broken by state licensing of home production (like brewing) and non-commercial exchanges. Or a state distribution system like state liquor stores, demonstrably effective in denying sales to youth, could be established.
The toughest issues may surround protection of children. Today, it's noted, they get contradictory messages -- "Take a pill to feel better," and "Just say no, except when you're 21 and then you can drink." Youth see commercial advertising pushing a wide variety of mind-altering, pleasure-inducing substances, even while society leaves control of so-called "illicit" drugs to criminal gangs. Plus, kids do like to experiment.
A realistic program could start with respecting young people, providing them honest information, on uses -- and the demonstrable dangers -- of alcohol, tobacco and drugs. Goodman notes that in the 13 states where medical use of marijuana is authorized, teen use is down. "It's not as cool when grandma uses marijuana for cancer pain," he says.
There's surely no risk-free "exit" from today's terribly destructive drug war. But we have to try -- and should thank communities and states with the courage to lead.
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It's time to "Say NO to the Drug War" and allow families to stay together to solve any problems, with assistance from the medical establishment. Jail helps no one, only maintaining the jobs of police, courts and jailers.
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My local government is not at war with me, and I feel almost kindly disposed toward them. We have peace and a measure of contentment, but if I go fewer than a hundred miles to the north I run into counties that continue to kill and jail us.
Nor am I assured of any safety against federal attack, and the same federal government kills millions in its battle for hegemony. You can't win, so stop making victory your only exit condition or you will have defeat, and you will have the blood of all of those further victims on your hands.
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Congratulations to the King County Bar Association. They have produced positive results. That's the only way to counter the mindless, thoughtless, stupid political policy we currently follow.
However, our weasels, in the form of legislators, do not have the courage to speak up for rational change. They only want to stay in office. Not even term limits can get rid of them.
And the idiots, in the form of voters, only do what we are told to do. So we keep repeating the same mistakes again and again and expect different results--Einstein's definition of insanity.
What better evidence of our insanity is there than the drug war? The Iraq War? Gotta give you that.
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Posted by: Colton on Sep 6, 2006 10:43 AM
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15 years ago England started a trial of a "Clinic System" - where addicts were given free narcotics. Sound crazy? Well it works. They ran this story on "60 Minutes" about 16 -17 years ago.
As the british started to see a sharp rise in drug use of hard narcotics they followed the Regan administration's advice, they hired more police - they knocked down doors - they raised the legal penalties - they threw addicts in prison. What happened? The problem got worse and worse and worse. Take away the supply, and the demand skyrockets - the simplest economics that even a high-school student can understand. For every drug dealer you toss in prison you get two that step up to sell drugs because the financial rewards trump any threat of punishment. Especially in a economy of stagnant jobs and a society that promotes mass consumerism - don't got any money? Looser! Get some! Lookit' my Bling !
Finally they gave up and decided to try something new, if you were an addict and you could PROVE that you could not quit drugs you were given doctor monitored doses of Heroin or Cocane - you provided your own cigarettes and the doctor dipped then in pharma pure legal drugs.
So what happened? Did the addicts flock to the test city? No. Did crime go down? Yes. Without desperate addicts needing money for more and more drugs, prostitution, robbery, murder, theft all declined. With no one to sell to the dealers were forced to move on, no one wanted or needed their stuff.
So you say: "Oh good, lets just give out free drugs and everyone can be high !?!?!?" Not quite - something strange and magical happened - within 6 months of starting the study more then 75% of the addicts had come back to the doctor to get their doses LOWERED voluntarillarly They didn't want to be addicts - they had made a mistake, through ignorance and/or desperation, and now that they could experience real life again - and spend money on food and rent and live a stable existance. They wanted to be free of drugs, and they felt like real human beings again - not criminals. This is not the only solution though - there also needs to be massive education about this subject - not just "Drugs are bad m'kay?" or "Just say no"
With the current atmosphere about even needle exchange programs - don't expect any type of change soon from the GOP or even the Democrats. Look at all those people in jail - as said many times above, it's pure profit to have a petty addict in jail, your unemployment figures look great too! Why create jobs when you can throw an addict in jail and pay them 0.10$ an hour to make sneakers?
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Biggest War Profiteer Ever: US Government
Did anyone notice that opium production in Afghanistan increased more than 60% over last year's haul. 2006 marks an historic turning point for Afghanistan, the US and the international drug cartels (again it is hard to speak of international drug cartels without including the US Gov.) as record production will substantially boost profits. "Shareholders" will be pleased I'm sure. This drug boon is made possible by Big War/Big Gov. and their joint subjugation of Afghanistan. As late as 2001, opium production had fallen under the Taliban to about 190 tons. It now stands at 6100!!! tons and this "unbelievable" resurgence conveniently occured AFTER the US overran the country. Hmmm - quite a coincidence considering our "tough on drugs" stance wouldn't you say?
To anyone who thinks we went into Afghanistan for any other reason than opium - think again. Bechtel, Halliburton, Northrop, Boeing and the rest combined can't hold a candle to the profits generated by heroin and its derivatives. It is estimated that international drug sales account for nearly 1 trillion dollars annually. The majority of that $$$ is derived from coke and smack. This much opium should fetch about 4-500 billion on the open market. Don't believe that Uncle Sam is involved? Tell me then how we launder 1 trillion dollars without the Fed and Fortune 500 Biz involved?
The very first thing that needs to be done is get Uncle Sam out of the drug biz . . . Good luck with that though.
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People use drugs because people value them. Not all people and not all drugs.
Whether or not people use drugs, however, what is important is not what they put in their mouth, but how they behave to other people.
There is no evidence that people who use marijuana, heroin or cocaine are more violent or less trustworthy than anyone else on average. That is just drug war baloney, just like the ignorant prejudice that said that Jews drink the blood of Christian babies or that Black men are driven to rape white women.
Let's get over this idea that the drug war is doing anything. Hitler killed drug users just like he killed Jews and gays.
Drug users are just the bottom of our caste system and so we pretend we are doing them and society a favor when we harass them or send them to prison.
In reality, it is just the same old bs all over again: choose a group, demonize it, and then act like oppression is for everybodies good.
Baloney!
Democracy works because you give a man responsibility for his own life. Democracy fails and Fascism creeps in when the state takes responsibility away from the individual.
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Posted by: hangman on Sep 7, 2006 10:12 AM
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Unfortunately our current Consersvative rightwing Government is hell bent on their "get tough on crime agenda"that which is the same as the locking up everyone and throwing away the keys. build more jails etc. etc.
they are playing politics with peoples lives.
there is scientific research in medical journals that prove and particularily in this situation "Harm reduction" has saved lives and helped steer people to treatment and recovery processes.
Dealing may be a crime but addiction is a health issue.
helping someone through harm reduction contributes to lowering crime rates and saves lives.
the program had a exemption from the government for the last three years and now the current government has refused to apporve the extended exemption and they are using lame reasoning for their decision.
the proof is already there about harm reduction being a vital and valuable part of curbing things and preventing the spread of HIV/AIDS and other diseases.
to get more insight to the issue the place is called "Insite".
in my view , throwing young adults in jails with other persons is only helping imprint more of the criminal mind into them.
Addicts need support and help , not judgement and jail time.
there is the four pillar approach that harm reduction is part of.
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Posted by: Bobb9999 on Sep 9, 2006 11:11 AM
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The results were successful harm reduction: disease and property crime rates were down, overdose deaths non-existent.
Unfortunately, it was only a test program which has now ended. A new Conservative Prime Minister may be less likely to revive the program.
However, another Vancouver drug program: safe injection sites for addicts, gov't approved, continues. It also has proven successful at harm reduction: Zero OD deaths, no disease spreading with clean unshared syringes.
A number of European copuntries, plus Australia are also committed to offering safe injection sites, because the resulting harm reduction is now proven and undeniable.
The US now lags the rest of the Western world in establishing sane, compassionate , cost effective approaches to treating addiction.
Americans who deludedly believe they live in a "free" country need only contemplate US drug enforcement for a moment , to see that, instead of a bastion of freedoms, America is a quasi-moralistic, repressive police state which demonizes and persecutes addicts, while keeping the gravy train of the drug enforcement/judicial industry humming along, a lucrative make work project for thousands of cops, prison operators, prosecutors, judges, and others who benefit from the persecution of those who just happen to have chosen the "wrong" drugs of choice to self medicate with.
Drugs need to be viewed in a social/medical context, not a criminal one.
Notice how the most deadly (i.e. worst) drugs of all are legal ones, such as tobacco and alcohol. Smoking alone kills over 400,000 Americans each year! And they say heroin's dangerous? Sure. Hypocricy runs riot when it comes to American attitudes to drugs.
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Posted by: Dankhank on Sep 6, 2006 5:02 AM
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It's time to "Say NO to the Drug War" and allow families to stay together to solve any problems, with assistance from the medical establishment. Jail helps no one, only maintaining the jobs of police, courts and jailers.
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Peace!
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My local government is not at war with me, and I feel almost kindly disposed toward them. We have peace and a measure of contentment, but if I go fewer than a hundred miles to the north I run into counties that continue to kill and jail us.
Nor am I assured of any safety against federal attack, and the same federal government kills millions in its battle for hegemony. You can't win, so stop making victory your only exit condition or you will have defeat, and you will have the blood of all of those further victims on your hands.
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Congratulations to the King County Bar Association. They have produced positive results. That's the only way to counter the mindless, thoughtless, stupid political policy we currently follow.
However, our weasels, in the form of legislators, do not have the courage to speak up for rational change. They only want to stay in office. Not even term limits can get rid of them.
And the idiots, in the form of voters, only do what we are told to do. So we keep repeating the same mistakes again and again and expect different results--Einstein's definition of insanity.
What better evidence of our insanity is there than the drug war? The Iraq War? Gotta give you that.
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Posted by: Colton on Sep 6, 2006 10:43 AM
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15 years ago England started a trial of a "Clinic System" - where addicts were given free narcotics. Sound crazy? Well it works. They ran this story on "60 Minutes" about 16 -17 years ago.
As the british started to see a sharp rise in drug use of hard narcotics they followed the Regan administration's advice, they hired more police - they knocked down doors - they raised the legal penalties - they threw addicts in prison. What happened? The problem got worse and worse and worse. Take away the supply, and the demand skyrockets - the simplest economics that even a high-school student can understand. For every drug dealer you toss in prison you get two that step up to sell drugs because the financial rewards trump any threat of punishment. Especially in a economy of stagnant jobs and a society that promotes mass consumerism - don't got any money? Looser! Get some! Lookit' my Bling !
Finally they gave up and decided to try something new, if you were an addict and you could PROVE that you could not quit drugs you were given doctor monitored doses of Heroin or Cocane - you provided your own cigarettes and the doctor dipped then in pharma pure legal drugs.
So what happened? Did the addicts flock to the test city? No. Did crime go down? Yes. Without desperate addicts needing money for more and more drugs, prostitution, robbery, murder, theft all declined. With no one to sell to the dealers were forced to move on, no one wanted or needed their stuff.
So you say: "Oh good, lets just give out free drugs and everyone can be high !?!?!?" Not quite - something strange and magical happened - within 6 months of starting the study more then 75% of the addicts had come back to the doctor to get their doses LOWERED voluntarillarly They didn't want to be addicts - they had made a mistake, through ignorance and/or desperation, and now that they could experience real life again - and spend money on food and rent and live a stable existance. They wanted to be free of drugs, and they felt like real human beings again - not criminals. This is not the only solution though - there also needs to be massive education about this subject - not just "Drugs are bad m'kay?" or "Just say no"
With the current atmosphere about even needle exchange programs - don't expect any type of change soon from the GOP or even the Democrats. Look at all those people in jail - as said many times above, it's pure profit to have a petty addict in jail, your unemployment figures look great too! Why create jobs when you can throw an addict in jail and pay them 0.10$ an hour to make sneakers?
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War on drugs my ass.
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Biggest War Profiteer Ever: US Government
Did anyone notice that opium production in Afghanistan increased more than 60% over last year's haul. 2006 marks an historic turning point for Afghanistan, the US and the international drug cartels (again it is hard to speak of international drug cartels without including the US Gov.) as record production will substantially boost profits. "Shareholders" will be pleased I'm sure. This drug boon is made possible by Big War/Big Gov. and their joint subjugation of Afghanistan. As late as 2001, opium production had fallen under the Taliban to about 190 tons. It now stands at 6100!!! tons and this "unbelievable" resurgence conveniently occured AFTER the US overran the country. Hmmm - quite a coincidence considering our "tough on drugs" stance wouldn't you say?
To anyone who thinks we went into Afghanistan for any other reason than opium - think again. Bechtel, Halliburton, Northrop, Boeing and the rest combined can't hold a candle to the profits generated by heroin and its derivatives. It is estimated that international drug sales account for nearly 1 trillion dollars annually. The majority of that $$$ is derived from coke and smack. This much opium should fetch about 4-500 billion on the open market. Don't believe that Uncle Sam is involved? Tell me then how we launder 1 trillion dollars without the Fed and Fortune 500 Biz involved?
The very first thing that needs to be done is get Uncle Sam out of the drug biz . . . Good luck with that though.
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Posted by: ken_sailor on Sep 6, 2006 9:55 PM
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People use drugs because people value them. Not all people and not all drugs.
Whether or not people use drugs, however, what is important is not what they put in their mouth, but how they behave to other people.
There is no evidence that people who use marijuana, heroin or cocaine are more violent or less trustworthy than anyone else on average. That is just drug war baloney, just like the ignorant prejudice that said that Jews drink the blood of Christian babies or that Black men are driven to rape white women.
Let's get over this idea that the drug war is doing anything. Hitler killed drug users just like he killed Jews and gays.
Drug users are just the bottom of our caste system and so we pretend we are doing them and society a favor when we harass them or send them to prison.
In reality, it is just the same old bs all over again: choose a group, demonize it, and then act like oppression is for everybodies good.
Baloney!
Democracy works because you give a man responsibility for his own life. Democracy fails and Fascism creeps in when the state takes responsibility away from the individual.
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Posted by: Sleepingcobra1 on Sep 7, 2006 4:06 AM
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Posted by: hangman on Sep 7, 2006 10:12 AM
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Unfortunately our current Consersvative rightwing Government is hell bent on their "get tough on crime agenda"that which is the same as the locking up everyone and throwing away the keys. build more jails etc. etc.
they are playing politics with peoples lives.
there is scientific research in medical journals that prove and particularily in this situation "Harm reduction" has saved lives and helped steer people to treatment and recovery processes.
Dealing may be a crime but addiction is a health issue.
helping someone through harm reduction contributes to lowering crime rates and saves lives.
the program had a exemption from the government for the last three years and now the current government has refused to apporve the extended exemption and they are using lame reasoning for their decision.
the proof is already there about harm reduction being a vital and valuable part of curbing things and preventing the spread of HIV/AIDS and other diseases.
to get more insight to the issue the place is called "Insite".
in my view , throwing young adults in jails with other persons is only helping imprint more of the criminal mind into them.
Addicts need support and help , not judgement and jail time.
there is the four pillar approach that harm reduction is part of.
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The results were successful harm reduction: disease and property crime rates were down, overdose deaths non-existent.
Unfortunately, it was only a test program which has now ended. A new Conservative Prime Minister may be less likely to revive the program.
However, another Vancouver drug program: safe injection sites for addicts, gov't approved, continues. It also has proven successful at harm reduction: Zero OD deaths, no disease spreading with clean unshared syringes.
A number of European copuntries, plus Australia are also committed to offering safe injection sites, because the resulting harm reduction is now proven and undeniable.
The US now lags the rest of the Western world in establishing sane, compassionate , cost effective approaches to treating addiction.
Americans who deludedly believe they live in a "free" country need only contemplate US drug enforcement for a moment , to see that, instead of a bastion of freedoms, America is a quasi-moralistic, repressive police state which demonizes and persecutes addicts, while keeping the gravy train of the drug enforcement/judicial industry humming along, a lucrative make work project for thousands of cops, prison operators, prosecutors, judges, and others who benefit from the persecution of those who just happen to have chosen the "wrong" drugs of choice to self medicate with.
Drugs need to be viewed in a social/medical context, not a criminal one.
Notice how the most deadly (i.e. worst) drugs of all are legal ones, such as tobacco and alcohol. Smoking alone kills over 400,000 Americans each year! And they say heroin's dangerous? Sure. Hypocricy runs riot when it comes to American attitudes to drugs.
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