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Confessions of an eBay Opium Addict
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I woke up avalanched under a junkyard of pain, my body a trap of torn nerves and trashed organs. An oily rash of sweat had soaked through my pillow and into the mattress. I was coughing, confused and crazy with anger. A throbbing, deep-pink chemical sunburn covered my face; my bowels were spitting hot mercury. I slid out of bed and dropped to the floor, the weight of a snarling mountain gorilla bearing down on me. I saw myself in the mirror as I fell. I looked puffy.
Outside, the sun was terrifying, while the hiss from a neighbor's dancing sprinkler got in my head and pissed me off so much, it felt as though my blood had become flammable and would ignite at the next insult. I made it to the car and somehow drove one block down to the mailbox, expecting the Priority Mail package from my eBay dealer to save me.
Nothing.
I hobbled into the car and drove back to the house, used the bathroom and looked on the computer. The U.S. Postal Service web site tracker verified that my box of poppies had been delivered to Reno at exactly 10:32 a.m. Well, where the hell was it? I typed a threatening e-mail to my supplier but didn't send it.
Then I got back into the car, reeling and jumpy, went back and opened the mailbox.
Nothing.
I closed it. Locked it. Waited a second and then stuck the key in and opened it back up.
Still not there.
I got back in the car and decided to wait it out. My head whirled with psychic errata--miscalculations in the synapses. As though faced with gravity for the very first time, I struggled to hold the horizon line, like an infant with an iron skull. I wanted to ram my head straight into the dashboard but feared the airbag might blow and deliver the knockout punch. Or, worse, I'd miss and hit the damn horn.
Everything hurt, but the pain came in slow motion and actually seemed to stop to register with each and every nerve. My pulse rattled, and my heart seemed to sizzle.
Maybe my package had been intercepted by the Drug Enforcement Administration. Good, I thought. Maybe they'll be able to get me off this stupid homemade junk.
I sat there for less than a minute. Maybe I sat there for an hour, I don't know. But something had to be done. I stuck some Klonopin under my tongue and drove over to the post office, expecting to turn myself in. Give up. Take the 15 years, if they would just give me the fix. But the door was stuck. I pushed, pulled. It wouldn't budge. No, it was locked. Closed for Columbus Day.
Columbus Day. No wonder everyone hated him. That tabard-wearing bastard had been dead for 500 years and was still causing trouble.
I took a dozen allergy pills to make me drowsy but couldn't sleep. I lay awake in bed for the next two days before the shipment finally arrived. The postman had decided to make a long weekend out of the cheap-ass holiday.
I should've stayed in bed and ridden it out. I had put a price on my head in the form of a box-a-day addiction but already had endured the worst part of the withdrawal: the first 48 hours. But then the box arrived, and I was a helpless slave. I ripped it open by its pull string and dumped a dozen poppy pods onto the bed, trying to eat one whole. I then made a quick, crude tea, drank it and started to feel a rabid glow of health return in seconds.
What had all the fuss been about?
In better days, I used to crack the dried poppy pods over the blender like eggs, little rivulets of blue-black seeds rushing out as I shattered the crowned pods. Sometimes I'd commandeer the kitchen and make a big production out of the whole thing, as though I was hosting some kind of lowbrow cooking show, doing stupid cockney accents while explaining the preparation process to the viewers.
Start with a clean, chemical-free stock of dried poppy pods. Pulverize in a blender and scald with water. Don't boil. Don't burn. Don't vaporize. Just scald. Blend on low for about a minute and then add a dash of lemon juice to taste. Add a cup of fine, aged brandy and then strain through an old T-shirt to remove lingering lumps.
Not only did the brandy serve to recreate that loose-laudanum effect, but also a swig baby-sat the senses while I waited the few minutes for the infernal teapot to boil. I had a whole list of fuel additives I'd researched on the internet to intensify the tea experience: tyrosine, ascorbic acid, allergy medicine. After downing a few bowls of tea, I'd lie down on the bed and watch the ceiling fan spin until my body felt etherized and free again. Ready for the imminent rapture.
But that was the first phase. And it didn't last very long.
On a field trip to Washington , D.C., Nancy Reagan promised us third-graders that there were people in the world who actually wanted nothing more than to give us drugs--for free! Free crack. Free cigarettes and beer. Free grass. Free coke. Free PCP and LSD. At the time, I remember thinking this notion carried the vague backing of Mr. T.
Back at school, they showed us a video of the circumstances and places these drugs might be obtained: playgrounds, especially while playing kickball; from ice-cream trucks; in restrooms at parties.
I played lots of kickball, but no goon in a trench coat ever trapped the ball under his foot and asked me if I wanted to fly. I bought ice pops and Fat Frogs from every Good Humor truck around but never got anything but chubby. I obviously was hanging out with the wrong crowd--something I distinctly remember the first lady warning us about. My friends couldn't score a Jolt cola, let alone a bump of nose candy. It was probably for the best. Had someone handed me a rock of crack, I think I would've put it in my mouth and eaten it. I couldn't even get a beer. And New Year's was coming up.
The only other place to get free stuff was the library. My mother dropped me off like it was daycare. Me and the damn bums. I looked for books with naked people. I read through investment magazines. Finally, I found the fiction section and a book called Beowulf. I liked it. The Vikings drank this stuff called "mead." It was an alcoholic drink made from honey. I looked in the card catalog and found a book on mead. It even showed how to make it. I was 12. The librarian had her hair full keeping the bums from falling asleep on the newspapers. She stamped my books and sent me away.
The recipe seemed simple enough. I rode my bike to the supermarket and bought a bear-shaped jar of honey and some Fleischmann's yeast.
I kept my mead in a pair of empty plastic Coke bottles. Every day I'd have to twist the cap off and release the carbon dioxide, or the stuff would explode. On New Year's Eve I poured my first glass. It was warm, almost hot. It wasn't sweet at all--it tasted like some kind of milky lard. I couldn't drink it at first, but I made myself chug the stuff. I'm not sure what happened, but all of a sudden it was dark outside, I thought I heard Dick Clark talking about his balls, and I couldn't stand up.
Because my neighborhood had failed me with its lack of blight, I began to see the supermarket and drugstore as potential drug dealers. I drank bottles of cough syrup before I knew what dextromethorphan (DXM) was. I ate catnip and didn't feel anything. I ate nutmeg and felt everything. There was no internet to guide me and nothing in the library about morning glory seeds. My mother just happened to have some Heavenly Blues in the junk drawer. I had never seen the carpet move like that before. I tried everything in the medicine aisle and everything in the bulk food hoppers. I became a Spiceisle junkie. McCormick was my dealer.
I got my first pain pills from my friend's dead grandmother. I liked them. I liked them so much I started hanging out with my own grandmother. Just checking in on her every now and then.
By the time I was driving, I still hadn't found out where to get anything stronger than pot on the street. But they had just opened a whole-foods store about 20 miles away. Also, there was this damn new thing called the World Wide Web. There were whole pages on "legal highs."
Go to kola, don quai, couch grass, cramp bark, slippery elm, saw palmetto. They sounded like mind benders, but the online "trip reports" confirmed they were no good. But I ate that San Pedro cactus in the living room planter. I bought psilocybin mushroom spores and grew them in mason jars. Other sites led me to strange legal chemicals like 2CT7. I found recipes for crystal meth using children's cough medicine. There were chemicals out there, but I was an opiate man.
At the health food store I looked at the huge bins of sesame seeds and fennel seeds and poppy seeds. The page on legal highs had said that trying to extract opium from poppy seeds was ridiculous. You needed pounds of the stuff.
I bought pounds of the stuff. I had them back-ordered and front-ordered at 97 cents a pound.
Per instructions, I boiled some water and slurred the mix around until it poured out in a pale yellow oil. I added some lemon and forced it down. Thirty minutes later, I was a poppy plant floating in the vase of my own body. It felt like I had a headache that didn't hurt, just these pleasant vexations. Later, I remembered this feeling, this innocent password to paradise. In college, after a few semesters of spiking needles in my arms and toes before class, my friend Lukas never came back from spring break with the heroin he had promised. The way they described it, his heart had exploded. They called it an allergic reaction.
I didn't know what to think except that the greedy bastard had copped my share. I remember needing a fix but was too scared to shoot up. The shrink had me on Klonopin for anxiety attacks. I drank until drinking didn't work. I tried every drug I could find. I stole Vicodin from medicine cabinets and kept an open ear for those with upcoming dental work, but the stuff was getting harder and harder to score. It had become trendy and seemed to peak when that guy that wasn't Ross and wasn't the kind-of-fat Italian "Friend" wrecked his car and went into rehab.
There were online pharmacies on the internet. I ordered Tramadol from Mexico and Nurofen Plus with the legal max 12.8 milligrams of codeine per tablet from New Zealand. Then that got tougher.
Finally, I found eBay. I had been looking for old motel stationery and fake Jackson Pollock drip paintings. They sold everything--why not drugs?
I typed "poppy pods" into the search bar.
Like anyone trolling the internet at 4 a.m., I had been looking for some kind of temporary drug fix. I found it on eBay under Crafts>Floral Supplies>Flowers, Foliage>Dried.
Crafting. Sure. I liked art.
A query turned up all sizes and quantities of poppies. Some, called gigantheums, were as big as tennis balls. A special of "600 XXL-sized gigantheums" was selling for $399. Fortunately, for crafting projects requiring so many poppy plants, financing was available for $17 per month. For all of us hard-core flower arrangers, of course.
The recipe was simple enough. Hot water and crushed poppies. A blender and a strainer or an old T-shirt to squeeze out the pulp. I ordered a few dozen dried flowers from a seller with more than 3,000 positive-feedback points and a clever handle that was a clear double-entendre on horticulture and getting high.
At first, the plants came double-boxed, rubber-banded by the dozen with the stems intact. But after a few more orders, the seller seemed to cut out the pretense that I might actually be using the poppies for floral arrangements and just sent the pods themselves.
The first taste gave off a steamy insult. Even after being filtered twice, the manna was as putrid as a bowl of warm pus. It seemed completely undrinkable. Its fermented, earthy taste--a little like a liquid squeezed from gym socks--had to be chased with something sweet. The dark grinds of crushed seed and sediment formed a repulsive grit in a half-ring around the bottom of the bowl.
As I poured the slosh into what would become my ceremonial chalice--a plastic child's cereal bowl with a built-in silly straw on the side--I learned how to drink it. Rather, it seemed to teach me how. Its nauseating properties demanded that it be downed fast at first, and then titrated for the rest of the session.
Fifteen minutes after downing my first bowl of poppy-pod tea, I entered "Flanders Fields," from the John McCrae poem: Where the poppies blow between the crosses, row on row.
Death was a possibility, I knew.
Immediately, I felt redeemed. The raw reel of life became distant, pleasant. My head was an overstuffed pillow that could softly implode any minute, and it didn't matter. Nothing could. A pleasant pressure settled on the back of my neck. I was snacky. I wanted sweets. I felt the promise of a divine massage as the pressure spread through my shoulders and opened my ribs like wings. My thoughts slowed down until just about everything seemed to fold neatly inside everything else.
I became happily over-focused in the comfortable mud of abstraction and triumph; immortality bobbed around me like fat peaches in a hot tub.
It was far from the predictable recklessness of alcohol or the silly buzz of marijuana. I didn't have the lubricated jaws of a chatty coke fiend or the mystical misconceptions of a psychedelic spaceman.
It was quiet up there.
For a while.
Poppy tea seemed to inspire creativity, from conception to actual completion, without any of those time-consuming frat-boy impulses. It effectively killed the sex drive for the night. As such, much writing could be done. A good dose could keep me up all night without that toothless amphetamine tic. By morning, things tended to irritate me, and the return of the sun seemed an impossibly horrifying affront. I covered the windows with blankets.
As the original confessional opium-eater, Thomas DeQuincey, put it way back in the September 1821 edition of London Magazine, "Booze is an acute pleasure while opium is a chronic one. It introduces among the faculties the most exquisite order, legislation, and harmony. Wine robs a man of his self-possession, opium greatly invigorates it."
Another thing opium tea slows down is the bowels. As an experienced pod-head, I learned to carry a Fleet two-pack before any major binge. (Those are the enemas in the green box.) Opium bunged things up the way eating a beach towel might. When things did finally make their exit, they felt like pine cones being forced through a tiny hole in a dry brick.
There was also the cottonmouth. It was once so bad that it was physically impossible for me to eat a sandwich.
Poppy tea was an extreme beverage for sure, but no more foul than that goofy green yuppie-goo: wheat grass.
I swallowed the tea a few times. Then a few more. By a month, I was drinking the juice of upward of 60 crushed pods per day--swallowing gallons of liquid and pissing out about $300 a week worth of tea matter. Bowl after bowl of blissful narcotic bloat that I sucked down with a silly straw.
Often, late into a session, I'd get that uncontrollable opiate itch. Raking my skin with a giant plastic comb seemed to help. Occasionally, I'd bleed or accidentally scrape a piece of a mole right off.
The thing is, heroin gets you addicted to heroin. But opium is 40 to 50 different alkaloids, meaning 40 to 50 different drugs I was becoming addicted to.
Some nights on the tea, I'd just lie in bed, content, even cheerful and impossibly satisfied enough to watch my wife read a copy of Lucky magazine, helping her put those little stickers on items she wanted.
Admittedly, slugging down bowl after bowl of plant slop through a silly straw lacked the romance of an opium den or the skinny-tie-and-suit jet-setting of the French Connection; it didn't have the instant appeal of the smoky red-light pleasures--the real ensemble pieces of the imagination--the ones where curly white smoke swirls in slow motion until it takes on the figure of an overly gracious geisha girl in fine red silk.
It didn't even have the Hollywood appeal of those experienced by heroin nightmare-narrative scribes, like former "Alf" writer/junkie Jerry Stahl's and his Permanent Midnight. The sick yellow desperation of the cotton-ball-and-spoon crowd, those icons that made filmmakers swoon in the late '90s. Cut to the tourniquet in the toothless addict's mouth or cut to the buffoon drinking grime out of a children's cereal bowl? I could feel the late William S. Burroughs cackling at me. I was living somewhere between his book Junkie and Budget Living magazine. But the habit was my own. It was DIY. Screw those Hollywood creeps, anyway--enough had been written about heroin addiction by the time of Aleister Crowley's Diary of a Drug Fiend in 1922--Hollywood had just been sluicing the depths ever since.
Poppy tea didn't leave me fashionably thin, either. In fact, after four months of constant use, I had never been so freaking fat in my life. I swelled from a size 30 to a 38 in jeans. I gained 65 pounds, almost exclusively in the middle, from the constipating bloat and junk-food chasers. While hard drugs collapsed on the user like a broken elevator when they wore off, poppy tea seemed to fade into the next day like a down escalator.
At first.
The chronicles of the opium trade zigzag through early civilizations from Mesopotamia to China and eventually wander to Neolithic southwestern Europe, where groups of early open-minded dump dwellers found the opium poppy plant, papaver somniferum, growing like a weed among piles of refuse. They soon discovered that not only would the plant seemingly thrive almost anywhere, but, also, when eaten or brewed into a primitive tea, it even took the edge off of living in a dump.
During the 1800s, when the strong painkilling alkaloid morphine was first isolated from the poppy and used in everything from battlefield amputations to snake oils and suspect tonics with names like Mister Jim's Special Relief for Facial Neuralgia or Calmer's Baby Tonic for Calmer Babies, the poppy's use as a tea fell out of practice. Purified morphine was cheaper than liquor, and a mix of the two, called laudanum, was sold as a kind of cure-all by greedy, apple-cheeked pharmacists everywhere. Once morphine was processed into brand-name heroin, the use of poppy tea just about came to an end, at least until eBay came onto the scene.
As a modern world-bazaar or world-sized museum of bizarre junk, eBay reconnected well-worn trade routes electronically that had disappeared and grassed over centuries ago. Pfaltzgraff table settings with minor chips, black wedding dresses, a plaster mold of Billy Ray Cyrus' "Achy Breaky" ass--millions of pieces of crap and treasure moved through the mail every day because of the auction site. Half-empty boxes of Band-Aids were bought and sold. Eight "gently used" 40DD bras closed with one bid at $6.50.
While becoming a worldwide garage sale, global swap meet and anthropologist's curio shop, eBay also quite naturally had become the official opium gray market to at least some of the masses.
But it didn't also sell the cure.
It was sometime before sunrise, and I was sitting in a motel in Carson City, Nevada. My wife didn't kick me out. She didn't even tell me to stop drinking the tea. There was no ultimatum. I just packed three huge boxes of poppies in the car with the blender and left. I didn't tell her where I was going. I didn't really know. But that seemed to be where you were likely to end up--at a cheap motel in Carson City. There was some equation there.
I walked a few miles to a grocery store for some lemon juice, Coke and junk food for the binge.
I tried to get the motel tap water running to a boil, but the closest I could get was to put the hand-crushed poppies in the ice bucket and run the shower until steamy water filled it to the brim. I drank it down in hideous gulps.
The reverie, the calm of my ocean, a measured but strong divine state for silent natural trances. I was back in the folds of the plant. I realized I had left because I didn't want to share this experience with anyone. I reached into the grocery bag and ripped open a three-pack of yellow Easter Peeps.
This was living.
DeQuincey noted that some nights he seemed to live for 70 to 100 years. This was going to be one of those nights. As long as I didn't die, at least.
I took a poppy pod out of the box and looked it over. It was regal, like a birch-colored rose wearing a halo; a poet could sit and be effusive for days meditating over its near-beauty.
Insulated by the opium and the sumptuousness of a secured motel room, I lay down with hopes of the state between consciousness and sleep. Suddenly, everything got blurry. The lights stayed put while my eyes moved. It was as though they were riding on oily ball joints. Or were the lights on ball joints? My lips shrank, and I couldn't talk. My heart drummed fiercely. I needed to calm down.
I panicked. The fear was intense. My toes wiggled around and got stuck in a cigarette hole in the bottom sheet of the motel bed. Did I drink too much? This was the high-water mark. I scratched my itches. Chasing. Always chasing. But this time I wasn't catching anything. I was caught. I made more tea. Used more pods than ever before. I was trying to blast off somewhere.
A few hours later, I had drunk the salt of 200 pods but only felt a kind of necessary doom. I got out of bed and looked in the mirror to make sure I was still there. I looked like that mug shot of Nick Nolte, my hair up in the air, pasted in place by sweat and spilled drink. Tiny poppy seeds were stuck to my shirt. They were everywhere. In the bed. Under my feet. On the floor.
I turned on the TV. The news. Some jackass was trying to sell a body part on eBay, and it had made the headlines.
I needed more of something, less of something else. I just couldn't put it straight.
I felt like I was trapped in an aviary of evil eye-pecking birds. The threats were soaring overhead, then dive-bombing beak-first into the pores in my aching skull. I screamed. The writhing, palpitating torment; the shattering headache; and the enormous irritability and agitation of the world all fit into the grit in my teeth.
I needed something. Some kind of painkiller, or I was going to die. I didn't know any old people who might have medicine cabinets stocked with Norco. I needed help. I thought about the stairwell. I thought maybe I could push myself down the stairwell and break something and go to the emergency room and get some pain meds.
I hurried down the hall and stood over the top, but I couldn't throw myself off. It was carpeted. I might just bruise, not break. I couldn't jump. My eyes fogged over with tears that didn't stream. I never knew how serious it had gotten until it had gotten serious. I had left my wife. I had blown through our savings. But I couldn't make myself take the final fall and literally hit bottom.
I went back into my room and found the Bible. I promised to God I'd quit. I tried to read some passages, but my eyes kept closing. I knew if I fell asleep, I wouldn't wake up. I found a section called "Leviticus." It was awful. Something about an "unclean creeping carcass." I had to get out of there. By "there," I meant my body.
But I was stuck.
I've been off opium tea for almost two weeks. Twelve days of nonstop low-grade flu and restless thoughts of maybe sawing off my head with a bowie knife. I've also considered a homemade lobotomy with a knitting needle. I can't live on this plane of plain sobriety.
When I can sleep, I wake up after a couple of hours, shivering, as though I've been sleeping in the steerage of some Alaskan fishing boat. Everything hurts. I've tried jogging to build up that natural high, but my brain's capacity to make natural painkillers has been so dimmed by the opium that it feels like my knee joints are ripping with every stride.
The thing about it is I realize that I'm going to order more poppies. It's not a question of "if." I know where I can get them. It's only a matter of time before I do this all over again. As long as someone sells the pods, and nobody cares to stop them, my recidivism is all but assured.
Poppies have shown me a better place. An occasional oasis of emotional stability. It's medicine for life. I doubt it will ever kill me. Perhaps make me into a 400-pound shut-in. Whatever--as long as I can get to the mailbox.
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Posted by: mattbreedlove on Apr 8, 2005 8:19 AM
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I couldnt tear myself away from the article.
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As a p.s., I do agree that responsible use of mind and mood altering substances is not only possible but for many, beneficial.
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Posted by: Backsotcker on Apr 8, 2005 11:03 AM
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Keep the discussion up front, keep looking for the real reasons that people use drugs (not just because we suffer from a total lack of responsibility) and keep telling me that I'm not alone.
Thank you...
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Posted by: Mal211 on Apr 8, 2005 11:38 AM
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Secondly, to everyone who is telling him that he needs help and therapy, etc. Get off his back. Some people need religion, others politics, and still others massive quantities of opiates. I, personally, quit doing drugs because I had a nasty habit of getting arrested with them in my posession. The idea of spending twenty years in prison for NOT killing anyone didn't appeal to me. Instead, I drink and, till recently, smoked Salvia regularly. What has happened to the belief that we are responsible for our destiny, and that we should do what makes us happy as long as it hurts no one else?
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As to this guy's skill in writing: ehh. Not so hot, I think. Certainly not enough to warrant the long read. Go chew yourself some coca leaves, fred.
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I wish Peter Thompson all the best in finding a way out of his self-inflicted nightmare. My instinct tells me that if he makes it, it will be in large part because of his writing.
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Posted by: Buddha on Apr 8, 2005 1:16 PM
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on another note, as disgusting as you portray yourself in this article, i was still somewhat intrigued with poppies, and almost went to ebay to see if this was really easily aval. There also lies the problem, some people just like to get high! even if they know what it will do to you, even from past experiences that almost ruined your life. What makes some people willing to ruin there lives, and some not?
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Posted by: sgtstan on Apr 8, 2005 1:56 PM
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The article also describes one of the greatest truths of drug addiction and dependency: that no matter how much pain is caused to others, no matter how much pain is felt personally, no matter how one’s life is turned upside-down, the high is always waiting to take you someplace where everything feels good. And the desire for that good place outweighs any negative.
Drugs are dangerous because they work. What nonsense that there are people who use psychotropic drugs responsibly! How does one use responsibly any substance that supercedes the body’s own pleasure response, that defeats bodily reflexes, rational thought, and ability to defend itself? Or is it your own subjective rationalization of the “experience” that makes the altered state of being, and the subsequent damage, worthwhile? This mystique of having “the experience” is one of the myths that get kids looking in their medicine cabinets in the first place. You can have an equally valid “experience” using a chainsaw and your foot.
I am certainly not into governmental restriction of any choice concerning my body, but let’s face reality: the addict never aspired to be an addict. Experimentation with dangerous substances has left in its wake a tremendous army of the damned. Damned not because of the addict's own weaknesses or inability to cope, not of a lack of "personal responsibility," but simply because the damned drugs work very well.
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Well.... and because we are misled as a culture about the inherent, unavoidable morbidity of drug use which, when matched up against actual personal experience of drugs, doesn't do a very good job of explaining reality. I doubt we'd have such a drug problem, if drugs were respected as powerful substances, rather than feared and stigmatized.
Alcohol is a drug. People drink how much alcohol a year in America? And what percentage of those people end up in a motel room in Nevada ready to jump off a balcony? That's right: slim to none. So it can be a matter of personal responsibility and the addict's own weaknesses. The argument to the contrary borders on PC bull-ish. Why can't we just accept that there are broken people living among us?
Cultures across the world have been using mind-altering substances since the dawn of man. Only in our modern day and age (the past 2000 years or so) has there been such a thing as a junky. To me it is both a symptom of modern culture's weaknesses, interplayed with the addict's own shortcomings. Having myself been a heroin addict, I feel I have a pretty good handle on these issues, at least better than the average "just say no" American.
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Can't we all agree that since the very first BIG LIE, (santa claus), that we are like the cows that are pumped full of hormones so we can take your milk, your babies, and then when your done,....your flesh.
We all have been POLLUTED.
We need to start looking at ourselves, and our role in this world. We are all connected here, and we have been systematically robbed of our instincts....Just look at the food we are feeding ourselves....Take a look at your supermarket shelves, and ask yourselves..............
Who are the drug dealers?
Who are peddling smut, wrapped up in a fancy Mickey Mouse bow?
We need to make some major changes if the next generation is ever going to have a chance.
IS YOUR LIFE SUSTAINABLE?
Ask yourself a question.
Whose life are you living?
The pain you see and feel is real, and it belongs to all of us.
Live Simple...............so others may simply live.
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Posted by: P M Donovan on Apr 9, 2005 3:53 AM
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To place a rant and rave such as that article on a legitimate site makes it "reputable" for later use. It the "user" is having that many problems, the editors should have had either the kindness to let the person suffer without hurting others or the smarts to recognize smears and a riverboat story.
Possible it's just satire, but as noted, the editors should have had the decency to spike.
Editors? On a site like this? You don't think so? Have you noticed any Aryan Nation diatribes recently.
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What makes my life whole. Taoism. What's the basis of Taoism? To me the basis of Taoism is forgetting everything I know and have been taught in order to come back to my original self. When I was a child things were so easy , uncomplicated ; I was happy and carefree. My parents , society , school , the government and people who influenced me put ideas in my mind that changed my reality. Ideas(or morales) create our beliefs. What you believe is the way you precieve reality. If you don't truely support your ideas( or morales) , things may not seem right in your life. Everything we have been taught is man made , who's to say what one persons idea of life is right for another. Forget everything you know , come back to your true self and then find a way. What is the way? Look inside your heart. What is the way for me? Music , Love , Family , Friends , Shelter ,Good Food , Excercise , Work , Play...
The only thing in this world we can control is the thought going through our heads at this moment. Can you control your thoughts . It's called meditation. I think about the ocean , a vast blue plain. Control your mind , don't let drugs take that control. You can lead or you can follow , I hope you lead yourself instead of following drugs. Mitch Sollenny
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Posted by: swarm on Apr 9, 2005 12:32 PM
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Poppy pods have been available since the dawn of time. Every one who can knock two stones together in college has thought "Hey! Poppy pods are used in flower arranging!" and gone down to the store bought a bunch, made pod tea and found out it is grusome to drink and gives you less buzz than a couple of beers and likely to make you puke.
If he was actually a opiate junky he wouldn't be wasting $400 on poppy pods when he could get all the smack and opium he wants off the street and 50 kinds of opiate pain pill perscriptions right off the net.
I am truely suprised that such an obvious piece of anti drug propaganda is being touted as journalism. I expect better from alternet.
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I did look up "poppy pods" on ebay and they are being sold in massive quantities, and without the stems. The interesting thing is that the poppy pods are all "buy it now", while the lavender and other dried flowers are longer auctions.
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To me, this looks like a plea for something other than regulation - should we regulate McCormick spices as a pharmaceutical company? An addict will find something, allegy pills or cough medicine, to medicate themselves.
My demon is beer. should we start prohibition again? No way, as a recovering addict/alcoholic there was no regulation that would have kept me from beer. I would have lied, cheated, stolen, synthesized, scraped anything to get a beer. and if no beer, ok, opium, get that pink elephant off of my back.
The second part of the pece should be an expose on the folks who grow the poppies who are forced by economic conditions into the trade and encouraged by sloppy, lazy, privileged Americans that demand something to kill the pain.
Legalize it, regulate it, tax it and use the resources to offer help to folks who need it. Nobody mentions that there are few alternatives to the justice system for treatment of the medical condition (the disease) of substance abuse.
And to all the folks wh say "get help now" where, how, who willl pay?
Great piece of work. I was there, replace poppy with beer and circle K with eBay, and you have my life
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NOTE TO ALTERNET: unless you want to lose more of your audience to rawstory.com, you should do better than this garbage.
Nittacci
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Posted by: Molly McRae on Apr 10, 2005 8:20 PM
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"As long as someone sells the pods, and nobody cares to stop them, my recidivism is all but assured."
What a cop out. You want somebody to stop "them" from selling you poppies; yet, as you pointed out, you had an addiction problem long before you began buying poppies on e-bay.
Further outlawing poppies would not stop you. You would find something else or some other way to escape whatever demons are tormenting you. You would be better off committing yourself to an detox center or finding help to fight the demons.
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Posted by: GuerillaKing on Apr 10, 2005 9:11 PM
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You are a part of this body of humanity. The ass of this body has ascended to rule the rest. The brains of the species, like yourself, are crawling under rocks and leaving the rest of the body vulnerable to all the excrement bound to flow down from an elevated ass. Help us, if you don't help yourself. Use that skill to better illustrate the obviousness of the inequities. As you play the part of defeated human, you defeat part of the human endeavor. As you show the brilliance of the species, You grow that brilliance. Stop being such a selfish bastard. Help us.
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Posted by: brs04wsc on Apr 10, 2005 9:56 PM
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So to be honest, I would advise this guy to either shut up and stop, or triple his next order and take it all at once.
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"As long as someone sells the pods, and nobody cares to stop them, my recidivism is all but assured."
It's funny. He writes a compelling piece about his journey to the edge and ends up blaming it on outisde forces. Yea buddy, if those terrible people only were forced to stop selling to you you'd be safe and sober. They should probably stop making junk food too you fat fuck! Take a little responsibility for yourself. You've got the emotional strength of a 7 year old. It just couldn't be your fault you are addicted, right? Boo fucking hoo.
I agree that this story sounds like a phony/plant to create some kind of backlash. Ebay has to be regulated!!!! Where is Tom Delay? If only the law and order types would come along and keep us safe from those who would tempt us this world would be such a better place!
If you are for real, go check yourself into a clinic and beat the physical addiction. Then go and find a good counselor and learn to become a responsible adult. Act like a man, not like a f#&ing child.
This story stinks!
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Posted by: aldous on Apr 11, 2005 8:57 AM
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I once choked down a nasty cupful of the tea you described, and later experienced a mildly buzzy afternoon that was somewhere between three quick glasses of red wine and a Percocet drift. It's a terribly inefficient way to reach an altered state; the effect was so subtle and the taste so vile that I never challenged my gag reflex in that way again, leading me to believe that you don't have one. Or you're full of poppycock. You're certainly a dilettante. Jim Hogshire covered similar territory years ago, and did it without the self-indulgent handwringing. True or not, your story pegged the pathetic meter, and your references to DeQuincey and Burroughs were laughable. Those cats went the distance, and at least got some real highs in exchange for the misery of the lows. So either you're a fraud or you're a truly desperate slob sucking his weak dope from a toddler's sippy cup - an appropriate vessel for your endeavors, indeed. Either way, you need to grow up.
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I hope you find the serenity you need. You write well.
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I like your writing style - you are an excellent writer. AND, for anyone who doesn't believe it - it is the same life I am living. I am an addict and one that is supposed to be in recovery and has been for years. Yet I have become side-tracked once again when I decided to check out what all the hype possible mystique was about with poppy tea.
I've shared your article with others who are in the same boat.
Thanks so much for sharing.
Theresa
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Posted by: material witness on Apr 12, 2005 1:19 PM
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I read a lot of arcticles and am pretty in the loop on current information and the state of propaganda. The Waron Drugs is Big Business for special interests and people who for reasons of ignorance or moral righteousness need to dictate how others live their lives.
The religious, right wing, police state have a vested interest in insuring that the Drug War continue in all its unabated cruelty and hypocrisy. Arcticles of the caliber of this and the xanax arcticle smack of hidden agenda, consider how they appear to tug at the heart strings of the compassionate, somehow displacing the blame for weakness of character onto the evil substance, the very foundation of the Waron Drugs.
Hopefully these types of arcticles are "meant" to encourage debate and discussion as that is what life and politics are about, as opposed to a coup upon the Alternet Drug Reporter.
To close i take the liberty of requoting a particularly prescient quote from the winter 2004/2005 November coalition newsletter:
"As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. In both instances there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be most aware of change in the air - however slight - lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness." - Hon. William O. Douglas, U.S. Supreme Court
kinda sends a chill through the bones,
peace, love & perserverance mw
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Left to grow.
As I recall, Tony Blair promised the Brits: One major goal for Invasion into Afghanistan was to disrupt the 05 harvest. Yet, now we KNOW they avoided bombing the Poppy's growing area completely.
During the 80's, there were many reports of an unusual influx of cheap Drugs into Southern CA.
Remember, Military is a Herd Mentality.
Our Young People must be strong, well informed and aware. Statistics show that Maturity now is not reached until 28-29. Keep your young adults close to your vest, they are most susceptible to such distractions. We need to teach our Children well...they may need to fight for us at home.
We've reached Survival of The Wisest.
Like the The Wizard of Oz Poppy Fields...
Drugs slow one down, they hindered progress.
We could lose a generation to slumber.
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It is as much a part of human nature to seek altered states of conciousness as it is to seek sex. Only the really dumb or subjugated conform mindlessly to the totalitarian state.
Long live the free human spirit!.
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Our local methadone clinic is a money mill, but I have been very impressed with Suboxone (buprenorphine) in people who have not been able to maintain a sober lifestyle without opiod replacement therapy.
Please, Alternet, if you are going to publish articles that glorify drug use. counter them with articles of the effectiveness of available substance abuse treatments!
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Some of the posts have criticized this article as glorifying drugs...they are wrong. It is a cautionary tale on the lure and trap that drugs are.
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Sorry about that, I want people to read this ;).
First, you weren't addicted to 50 drugs. Opiate addiction is opiate addiction. More opiates fix it. If there were 50 times as many opiates, you would have overdosed horribly every time you drank it. The cumulative effect of the drugs in the tea was the same as heroin or another single opiate, so the addiction was equally bad as one of those. At the most, the withdrawal is slightly worse.
A lot of opinions here are very skewed. Drugs are a lot of things, but they are not unilaterally good or bad. Peter here made some shitty decisions. I myself have made poppy tea since around November 2004 and, suprinsgly to you, I'm sure, with absolutely no problems.
Peter's problem was not poppies. Peter's problem was that he is desperate to get out of his normal life and will do anything to do this, whether it cost him his wife, his appearance, or his health. Poppies are not addictive if used responsibily, as I have, at a minimum as small as once every two days. Peter obviously did not bother to do any research on the things he was putting into himself, and he paid the price. Next time, either be responsible or don't do it. Peter, you engage in a lot of self-destructive behavior, and I'm not sure you're the best candidate for recreational drug use, but that's not to say that no one is.
Drugs are not a trap. Drugs are not so addictive that the first dose will turn you into a junkie. Let me emphasize this final point further: OPIATES ARE ALMOST HARMLESS. The worst side effect is mild constipation, and if you're responsible, again, and not doing it daily, this is not a problem. Take some fucking Metamucil and lay off for a few days, if it gets that bad. I've used opiates extensively with no adverse health effects.
Peter, you fucked up. This is not the fault of poppies. They are a goddamned plant, they cannot think. You, on the other hand, can think, and you made some stupid fucking decisions. Don't drink the fucking tea every day, what the fuck were you thinking? Get into rehab and get a psychiatrist, work out your real problems, they go far beyond drug addiction.
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shame if the lack of will of a**holes like this makes the world less free for the rest of us
reality is for people who can't handle drugs
f**k all you self rightious control freaks that make this world a smaller place for the rest of us
Poppies clean the gene pool of the weak and mindless...that IS a good thing.
It amazes me that we allow the doctors a monopoly on much of natures bounty. They hand out sh*t 100 times worse than opiods like candy, and f**k up more lives than illegal good herbs ever could. More people die every year because of medical incompetence than from auto accidents...and thats the stats on whats reported
go cry to your momma if you can't be trusted to keep yourself alive and enjoy the best of things in moderation
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We have a Web site where we posted the lab analysis and coroner's report so that other users can be aware of potential dangers of overdosing. The URL is: http://www.poppyseedtea.com. Please take look at it.
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I liked your article for the most part, except for this paragraph, which is patently offensive. How dare you, especially publishing your article to AlterNet, ask society to nanny you and prohibit the sale of poppy pods? It's one of the few legal loopholes in the war on drugs that are still worth going through for access to legal psychoactives. Your whiny request for security at the expense of privacy disgusts me.
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Posted by: fishlegs on Mar 7, 2007 6:38 AM
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here's the truth, plain and simple. opiates don't ruin your life. the black market ruins your life. an unsupportive and ignorant culture will ruin your life. withdraw will kill you. but in places where addiction is legal and tolerated; drugs are clean, cheap and readily available; and addicts are never forced to suffer withdraw, they seem to live happy, normal lives and usually end up contributing something more than the average person.
yea, you might fuck your liver up. you might stop breathing in your sleep. but caffine, nicotine, alcohol, white sugar, refined carbohydrates, saturated fats, air and water pollution, preemtive war: these will all kill you too, most are more dangerous than opiates.
i refer you to a much more eloquent and well documented article.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/drugs/Story/0,,506559,00.html
enjoy!
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Posted by: mattbreedlove on Apr 8, 2005 8:19 AM
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I couldnt tear myself away from the article.
Great Job!
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Posted by: other lisa on Apr 8, 2005 9:21 AM
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As a p.s., I do agree that responsible use of mind and mood altering substances is not only possible but for many, beneficial.
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Posted by: Backsotcker on Apr 8, 2005 11:03 AM
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Keep the discussion up front, keep looking for the real reasons that people use drugs (not just because we suffer from a total lack of responsibility) and keep telling me that I'm not alone.
Thank you...
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Posted by: Mal211 on Apr 8, 2005 11:38 AM
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Secondly, to everyone who is telling him that he needs help and therapy, etc. Get off his back. Some people need religion, others politics, and still others massive quantities of opiates. I, personally, quit doing drugs because I had a nasty habit of getting arrested with them in my posession. The idea of spending twenty years in prison for NOT killing anyone didn't appeal to me. Instead, I drink and, till recently, smoked Salvia regularly. What has happened to the belief that we are responsible for our destiny, and that we should do what makes us happy as long as it hurts no one else?
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Posted by: unterrunt on Apr 8, 2005 12:22 PM
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As to this guy's skill in writing: ehh. Not so hot, I think. Certainly not enough to warrant the long read. Go chew yourself some coca leaves, fred.
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Posted by: AuRuler on Apr 8, 2005 12:25 PM
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I wish Peter Thompson all the best in finding a way out of his self-inflicted nightmare. My instinct tells me that if he makes it, it will be in large part because of his writing.
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Posted by: Buddha on Apr 8, 2005 1:16 PM
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on another note, as disgusting as you portray yourself in this article, i was still somewhat intrigued with poppies, and almost went to ebay to see if this was really easily aval. There also lies the problem, some people just like to get high! even if they know what it will do to you, even from past experiences that almost ruined your life. What makes some people willing to ruin there lives, and some not?
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Posted by: sgtstan on Apr 8, 2005 1:56 PM
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The article also describes one of the greatest truths of drug addiction and dependency: that no matter how much pain is caused to others, no matter how much pain is felt personally, no matter how one’s life is turned upside-down, the high is always waiting to take you someplace where everything feels good. And the desire for that good place outweighs any negative.
Drugs are dangerous because they work. What nonsense that there are people who use psychotropic drugs responsibly! How does one use responsibly any substance that supercedes the body’s own pleasure response, that defeats bodily reflexes, rational thought, and ability to defend itself? Or is it your own subjective rationalization of the “experience” that makes the altered state of being, and the subsequent damage, worthwhile? This mystique of having “the experience” is one of the myths that get kids looking in their medicine cabinets in the first place. You can have an equally valid “experience” using a chainsaw and your foot.
I am certainly not into governmental restriction of any choice concerning my body, but let’s face reality: the addict never aspired to be an addict. Experimentation with dangerous substances has left in its wake a tremendous army of the damned. Damned not because of the addict's own weaknesses or inability to cope, not of a lack of "personal responsibility," but simply because the damned drugs work very well.
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Posted by: hemlock0o on Apr 8, 2005 3:37 PM
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Well.... and because we are misled as a culture about the inherent, unavoidable morbidity of drug use which, when matched up against actual personal experience of drugs, doesn't do a very good job of explaining reality. I doubt we'd have such a drug problem, if drugs were respected as powerful substances, rather than feared and stigmatized.
Alcohol is a drug. People drink how much alcohol a year in America? And what percentage of those people end up in a motel room in Nevada ready to jump off a balcony? That's right: slim to none. So it can be a matter of personal responsibility and the addict's own weaknesses. The argument to the contrary borders on PC bull-ish. Why can't we just accept that there are broken people living among us?
Cultures across the world have been using mind-altering substances since the dawn of man. Only in our modern day and age (the past 2000 years or so) has there been such a thing as a junky. To me it is both a symptom of modern culture's weaknesses, interplayed with the addict's own shortcomings. Having myself been a heroin addict, I feel I have a pretty good handle on these issues, at least better than the average "just say no" American.
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Posted by: naturalbornflyer on Apr 9, 2005 12:54 AM
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Can't we all agree that since the very first BIG LIE, (santa claus), that we are like the cows that are pumped full of hormones so we can take your milk, your babies, and then when your done,....your flesh.
We all have been POLLUTED.
We need to start looking at ourselves, and our role in this world. We are all connected here, and we have been systematically robbed of our instincts....Just look at the food we are feeding ourselves....Take a look at your supermarket shelves, and ask yourselves..............
Who are the drug dealers?
Who are peddling smut, wrapped up in a fancy Mickey Mouse bow?
We need to make some major changes if the next generation is ever going to have a chance.
IS YOUR LIFE SUSTAINABLE?
Ask yourself a question.
Whose life are you living?
The pain you see and feel is real, and it belongs to all of us.
Live Simple...............so others may simply live.
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Posted by: P M Donovan on Apr 9, 2005 3:53 AM
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To place a rant and rave such as that article on a legitimate site makes it "reputable" for later use. It the "user" is having that many problems, the editors should have had either the kindness to let the person suffer without hurting others or the smarts to recognize smears and a riverboat story.
Possible it's just satire, but as noted, the editors should have had the decency to spike.
Editors? On a site like this? You don't think so? Have you noticed any Aryan Nation diatribes recently.
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Posted by: MitchSollenny on Apr 9, 2005 10:23 AM
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What makes my life whole. Taoism. What's the basis of Taoism? To me the basis of Taoism is forgetting everything I know and have been taught in order to come back to my original self. When I was a child things were so easy , uncomplicated ; I was happy and carefree. My parents , society , school , the government and people who influenced me put ideas in my mind that changed my reality. Ideas(or morales) create our beliefs. What you believe is the way you precieve reality. If you don't truely support your ideas( or morales) , things may not seem right in your life. Everything we have been taught is man made , who's to say what one persons idea of life is right for another. Forget everything you know , come back to your true self and then find a way. What is the way? Look inside your heart. What is the way for me? Music , Love , Family , Friends , Shelter ,Good Food , Excercise , Work , Play...
The only thing in this world we can control is the thought going through our heads at this moment. Can you control your thoughts . It's called meditation. I think about the ocean , a vast blue plain. Control your mind , don't let drugs take that control. You can lead or you can follow , I hope you lead yourself instead of following drugs. Mitch Sollenny
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Posted by: swarm on Apr 9, 2005 12:32 PM
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Poppy pods have been available since the dawn of time. Every one who can knock two stones together in college has thought "Hey! Poppy pods are used in flower arranging!" and gone down to the store bought a bunch, made pod tea and found out it is grusome to drink and gives you less buzz than a couple of beers and likely to make you puke.
If he was actually a opiate junky he wouldn't be wasting $400 on poppy pods when he could get all the smack and opium he wants off the street and 50 kinds of opiate pain pill perscriptions right off the net.
I am truely suprised that such an obvious piece of anti drug propaganda is being touted as journalism. I expect better from alternet.
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Posted by: blissing on Apr 9, 2005 9:59 PM
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I did look up "poppy pods" on ebay and they are being sold in massive quantities, and without the stems. The interesting thing is that the poppy pods are all "buy it now", while the lavender and other dried flowers are longer auctions.
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Posted by: BorderDenizen on Apr 10, 2005 4:22 PM
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To me, this looks like a plea for something other than regulation - should we regulate McCormick spices as a pharmaceutical company? An addict will find something, allegy pills or cough medicine, to medicate themselves.
My demon is beer. should we start prohibition again? No way, as a recovering addict/alcoholic there was no regulation that would have kept me from beer. I would have lied, cheated, stolen, synthesized, scraped anything to get a beer. and if no beer, ok, opium, get that pink elephant off of my back.
The second part of the pece should be an expose on the folks who grow the poppies who are forced by economic conditions into the trade and encouraged by sloppy, lazy, privileged Americans that demand something to kill the pain.
Legalize it, regulate it, tax it and use the resources to offer help to folks who need it. Nobody mentions that there are few alternatives to the justice system for treatment of the medical condition (the disease) of substance abuse.
And to all the folks wh say "get help now" where, how, who willl pay?
Great piece of work. I was there, replace poppy with beer and circle K with eBay, and you have my life
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Posted by: nittacci on Apr 10, 2005 8:05 PM
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NOTE TO ALTERNET: unless you want to lose more of your audience to rawstory.com, you should do better than this garbage.
Nittacci
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Posted by: Molly McRae on Apr 10, 2005 8:20 PM
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"As long as someone sells the pods, and nobody cares to stop them, my recidivism is all but assured."
What a cop out. You want somebody to stop "them" from selling you poppies; yet, as you pointed out, you had an addiction problem long before you began buying poppies on e-bay.
Further outlawing poppies would not stop you. You would find something else or some other way to escape whatever demons are tormenting you. You would be better off committing yourself to an detox center or finding help to fight the demons.
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Posted by: GuerillaKing on Apr 10, 2005 9:11 PM
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You are a part of this body of humanity. The ass of this body has ascended to rule the rest. The brains of the species, like yourself, are crawling under rocks and leaving the rest of the body vulnerable to all the excrement bound to flow down from an elevated ass. Help us, if you don't help yourself. Use that skill to better illustrate the obviousness of the inequities. As you play the part of defeated human, you defeat part of the human endeavor. As you show the brilliance of the species, You grow that brilliance. Stop being such a selfish bastard. Help us.
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Posted by: brs04wsc on Apr 10, 2005 9:56 PM
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So to be honest, I would advise this guy to either shut up and stop, or triple his next order and take it all at once.
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Posted by: matteusgruhn on Apr 11, 2005 1:09 AM
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"As long as someone sells the pods, and nobody cares to stop them, my recidivism is all but assured."
It's funny. He writes a compelling piece about his journey to the edge and ends up blaming it on outisde forces. Yea buddy, if those terrible people only were forced to stop selling to you you'd be safe and sober. They should probably stop making junk food too you fat fuck! Take a little responsibility for yourself. You've got the emotional strength of a 7 year old. It just couldn't be your fault you are addicted, right? Boo fucking hoo.
I agree that this story sounds like a phony/plant to create some kind of backlash. Ebay has to be regulated!!!! Where is Tom Delay? If only the law and order types would come along and keep us safe from those who would tempt us this world would be such a better place!
If you are for real, go check yourself into a clinic and beat the physical addiction. Then go and find a good counselor and learn to become a responsible adult. Act like a man, not like a f#&ing child.
This story stinks!
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Posted by: aldous on Apr 11, 2005 8:57 AM
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I once choked down a nasty cupful of the tea you described, and later experienced a mildly buzzy afternoon that was somewhere between three quick glasses of red wine and a Percocet drift. It's a terribly inefficient way to reach an altered state; the effect was so subtle and the taste so vile that I never challenged my gag reflex in that way again, leading me to believe that you don't have one. Or you're full of poppycock. You're certainly a dilettante. Jim Hogshire covered similar territory years ago, and did it without the self-indulgent handwringing. True or not, your story pegged the pathetic meter, and your references to DeQuincey and Burroughs were laughable. Those cats went the distance, and at least got some real highs in exchange for the misery of the lows. So either you're a fraud or you're a truly desperate slob sucking his weak dope from a toddler's sippy cup - an appropriate vessel for your endeavors, indeed. Either way, you need to grow up.
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Posted by: nakis on Apr 11, 2005 9:41 AM
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I hope you find the serenity you need. You write well.
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Posted by: TOnline on Apr 12, 2005 1:08 PM
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I like your writing style - you are an excellent writer. AND, for anyone who doesn't believe it - it is the same life I am living. I am an addict and one that is supposed to be in recovery and has been for years. Yet I have become side-tracked once again when I decided to check out what all the hype possible mystique was about with poppy tea.
I've shared your article with others who are in the same boat.
Thanks so much for sharing.
Theresa
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Posted by: material witness on Apr 12, 2005 1:19 PM
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I read a lot of arcticles and am pretty in the loop on current information and the state of propaganda. The Waron Drugs is Big Business for special interests and people who for reasons of ignorance or moral righteousness need to dictate how others live their lives.
The religious, right wing, police state have a vested interest in insuring that the Drug War continue in all its unabated cruelty and hypocrisy. Arcticles of the caliber of this and the xanax arcticle smack of hidden agenda, consider how they appear to tug at the heart strings of the compassionate, somehow displacing the blame for weakness of character onto the evil substance, the very foundation of the Waron Drugs.
Hopefully these types of arcticles are "meant" to encourage debate and discussion as that is what life and politics are about, as opposed to a coup upon the Alternet Drug Reporter.
To close i take the liberty of requoting a particularly prescient quote from the winter 2004/2005 November coalition newsletter:
"As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. In both instances there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be most aware of change in the air - however slight - lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness." - Hon. William O. Douglas, U.S. Supreme Court
kinda sends a chill through the bones,
peace, love & perserverance mw
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Posted by: Gaiia on Apr 12, 2005 5:31 PM
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Left to grow.
As I recall, Tony Blair promised the Brits: One major goal for Invasion into Afghanistan was to disrupt the 05 harvest. Yet, now we KNOW they avoided bombing the Poppy's growing area completely.
During the 80's, there were many reports of an unusual influx of cheap Drugs into Southern CA.
Remember, Military is a Herd Mentality.
Our Young People must be strong, well informed and aware. Statistics show that Maturity now is not reached until 28-29. Keep your young adults close to your vest, they are most susceptible to such distractions. We need to teach our Children well...they may need to fight for us at home.
We've reached Survival of The Wisest.
Like the The Wizard of Oz Poppy Fields...
Drugs slow one down, they hindered progress.
We could lose a generation to slumber.
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Posted by: material witness on Apr 13, 2005 11:31 AM
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It is as much a part of human nature to seek altered states of conciousness as it is to seek sex. Only the really dumb or subjugated conform mindlessly to the totalitarian state.
Long live the free human spirit!.
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Posted by: drbatgirl on Apr 14, 2005 4:21 PM
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Our local methadone clinic is a money mill, but I have been very impressed with Suboxone (buprenorphine) in people who have not been able to maintain a sober lifestyle without opiod replacement therapy.
Please, Alternet, if you are going to publish articles that glorify drug use. counter them with articles of the effectiveness of available substance abuse treatments!
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Posted by: zooeyhall on Apr 15, 2005 2:12 PM
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Some of the posts have criticized this article as glorifying drugs...they are wrong. It is a cautionary tale on the lure and trap that drugs are.
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Posted by: nickborg on Apr 20, 2005 2:53 PM
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Posted by: sugarpuss on May 23, 2005 11:29 AM
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Posted by: wellhellothere on May 27, 2005 7:26 PM
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Sorry about that, I want people to read this ;).
First, you weren't addicted to 50 drugs. Opiate addiction is opiate addiction. More opiates fix it. If there were 50 times as many opiates, you would have overdosed horribly every time you drank it. The cumulative effect of the drugs in the tea was the same as heroin or another single opiate, so the addiction was equally bad as one of those. At the most, the withdrawal is slightly worse.
A lot of opinions here are very skewed. Drugs are a lot of things, but they are not unilaterally good or bad. Peter here made some shitty decisions. I myself have made poppy tea since around November 2004 and, suprinsgly to you, I'm sure, with absolutely no problems.
Peter's problem was not poppies. Peter's problem was that he is desperate to get out of his normal life and will do anything to do this, whether it cost him his wife, his appearance, or his health. Poppies are not addictive if used responsibily, as I have, at a minimum as small as once every two days. Peter obviously did not bother to do any research on the things he was putting into himself, and he paid the price. Next time, either be responsible or don't do it. Peter, you engage in a lot of self-destructive behavior, and I'm not sure you're the best candidate for recreational drug use, but that's not to say that no one is.
Drugs are not a trap. Drugs are not so addictive that the first dose will turn you into a junkie. Let me emphasize this final point further: OPIATES ARE ALMOST HARMLESS. The worst side effect is mild constipation, and if you're responsible, again, and not doing it daily, this is not a problem. Take some fucking Metamucil and lay off for a few days, if it gets that bad. I've used opiates extensively with no adverse health effects.
Peter, you fucked up. This is not the fault of poppies. They are a goddamned plant, they cannot think. You, on the other hand, can think, and you made some stupid fucking decisions. Don't drink the fucking tea every day, what the fuck were you thinking? Get into rehab and get a psychiatrist, work out your real problems, they go far beyond drug addiction.
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Posted by: frank777 on Dec 6, 2005 4:31 AM
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shame if the lack of will of a**holes like this makes the world less free for the rest of us
reality is for people who can't handle drugs
f**k all you self rightious control freaks that make this world a smaller place for the rest of us
Poppies clean the gene pool of the weak and mindless...that IS a good thing.
It amazes me that we allow the doctors a monopoly on much of natures bounty. They hand out sh*t 100 times worse than opiods like candy, and f**k up more lives than illegal good herbs ever could. More people die every year because of medical incompetence than from auto accidents...and thats the stats on whats reported
go cry to your momma if you can't be trusted to keep yourself alive and enjoy the best of things in moderation
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Posted by: alpha107 on Jan 2, 2006 12:35 AM
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We have a Web site where we posted the lab analysis and coroner's report so that other users can be aware of potential dangers of overdosing. The URL is: http://www.poppyseedtea.com. Please take look at it.
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Posted by: Coolio on Jan 15, 2007 7:25 PM
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I liked your article for the most part, except for this paragraph, which is patently offensive. How dare you, especially publishing your article to AlterNet, ask society to nanny you and prohibit the sale of poppy pods? It's one of the few legal loopholes in the war on drugs that are still worth going through for access to legal psychoactives. Your whiny request for security at the expense of privacy disgusts me.
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Posted by: fishlegs on Mar 7, 2007 6:38 AM
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here's the truth, plain and simple. opiates don't ruin your life. the black market ruins your life. an unsupportive and ignorant culture will ruin your life. withdraw will kill you. but in places where addiction is legal and tolerated; drugs are clean, cheap and readily available; and addicts are never forced to suffer withdraw, they seem to live happy, normal lives and usually end up contributing something more than the average person.
yea, you might fuck your liver up. you might stop breathing in your sleep. but caffine, nicotine, alcohol, white sugar, refined carbohydrates, saturated fats, air and water pollution, preemtive war: these will all kill you too, most are more dangerous than opiates.
i refer you to a much more eloquent and well documented article.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/drugs/Story/0,,506559,00.html
enjoy!
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