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Sgt. Northcutt's Post-Iraq Nightmare: Getting Arrested for Growing Pot
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Phil Northcutt saw the map of Iraq on the wall and started recalling his time there. He’d been stationed in Ramadi, Al Anbar Province, in 2004.
Phil Northcutt: There was this main street, ‘Route Michigan,’ like a 4-lane highway going through town with a 12-inch tall median painted yellow and black. When we first got there you could see big holes in the median. By the time we left, there was no median. It had been blown up along six or seven miles of roadway...
There were two different kinds of fighters we engaged. When we first got there it was like local fighters. You could tell. They were wearing the man dresses and flip-flops and they had old rusty AKs. They were like beat-up, ragged-out goat herders but with weapons. They didn’t use squad maneuvers, they didn’t use military tactics, it was a shoot and run kind of thing. And pretty much we killed all those guys or they went away.
And then the second wave came in. These dudes were wearing brand new Adidas, American jeans, they were wearing tactical rigs like American contractors, baseball hats, sunglasses –they looked like American contractors.
Fred Gardner: When did that second wave appear?
Northcutt: Let’s see... I got there in late August or September... That first wave lasted for three months and then it died down and then we heard, “Guys are coming from Syria.” Next thing you know there were these new guys, and they operated in squads, it was obvious they’d been trained. But they didn’t have the logistical support that we did ?supplies and weapons. So they didn’t really last long, either.
I think they decided “This coming out in the open stuff is not working, let’s hang back and let’s do more IEDs and suicide bombs.” That’s when things got really scary. More scary than guys shootin’ at you, now you’ve got people hiding and trying to blow you up.
We lost our commanding officer to a suicide car bomber like 1500 meters from the gate. Captain Patrick Rapicault, 34. Fucking solid guy. One of the best officers I ever worked with in the Marine Corps. He got killed when a VBIED [vehicle-borne improvised explosive device] rammed vehicle Whiskey Six. Marc Ryan, 25, and Lance Thompson, 21, were also killed. Ben Nelson was seriously wounded but survived.
The psychs came out to see us. They said “We’re going to do a screening of you guys. We want you guys to get help... They sent us to the Battalion aid station, which was Udei Hussein’s old guest house. They had turned his main house into a helipad. They leveled it with Cruise missiles and landed helicopters there. The took the guest house and turned it into the Battalion CP [Command Post]. At the far end of it was the armory and the medical building. So we went over there and got interviewed by a Navy captain. That’d be a colonel in the Marine Corps –a full-bird captain. He said, “what you have is called chronic post-traumatic stress disorder. It’s a natural result of you being in combat and seeing the things you’ve seen, blah blah blah.”
Gardner: And the diagnosis was written down in your file but it wasn’t grounds for taking a leave or anything?
Northcutt: Not at all. They would have had to send half of everybody home. And if everyone had told the truth, they would have had to send everybody home. “Take these anti-depressants and get some sleep. You’ll be fine. Here’s your M-16. Back to work!” And then we’re out on the front lines.
Gardner: They gave anti-depressants to everybody in the company?
Northcutt: All the guys who didn’t lie. The questions were, “Are you having nightmares?” Fuck yes. Are you kidding me? Do you know what I saw yesterday? “Are you having intrusive thoughts?” Yes. Fucking of course. They went through this whole series of questions that obviously, if you’re in combat and you’re being honest, the answer is “yes” to all of them.
But a lot of guys say, “Well you just gotta suck it up. You’re in the Marine Corps.” That’s bullshit. Some of these guys are fucking yelling in their sleep. And naturally everybody’s so hyper-fucking-vigilant that everybody wakes up. (softly) Oh, okay, it’s only Sergeant Tolson yelling in his sleep, okay, cool... Sometimes we’d get woken up because fucking mortars would be hitting next to the hooch and rocks would be crackling down on the roof. And you’d just be laying there like “fuck, I think I’m still here,” with nothing but a tin roof over your head.
Basically our job was like, they would say, “Hey, there’s an ambush set up at checkpoint 295, you guys go check it out.” Okay. We’ll check it out. We go there and see if they shoot at us. If they shoot at us –this is really the tactic! You’ve got bullets hitting around you, concrete flying in your face... What can you do?
Northcutt is now 36. He joined the Marine Corps in 1998, after not finding fulfillment as a music promoter (ska and punk bands) and screen printer. He went through boot camp in San Diego, excelled, and was made platoon guide (first in his unit). After School of Infantry at Camp Pendleton he trained in “Military Operations, Urban Terrain” at an off-the-map base in Virginia. He was stationed in idyllic Iceland and the Hellish Mojave Desert, didn’t see combat, and finished his four-year tour without a scratch well before the US invaded Iraq.
In the spring of ’04 he was about to start attending Santa Rosa Junior College when he got a call: the Marine Corps was looking for NCOs with his training to participate in the “combat casualty replacement program.”
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It's aggravating and disappointing that he had to go through what he did, but he seems to now have a chance to live in peace. He should have his veterans' rights restored and be compensated for his financial losses, but I doubt that will happen without a lengthy and expensive legal battle.
I hope he manages to live a fairly normal life with his wife and child and can sit on the porch getting high and watching the sun set for as long as he cares to. And good luck with those bulging discs, I went through that scenario in my 20's.
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What a sad state of affairs this country is in....
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Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN on Sep 1, 2009 7:09 AM
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They are now slapping ALL of us, including older vets like me who are victimized by the fucked up VA ORDERING the drs in their clinics to do LITTLE OR NOTHING.
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The Military Industrial Complex used him, then discarded him when he was more of a liability than an asset. And, they got away from their obligations by not honoring his service, by taking his benefits.
As is so often true, the men and women return to combat because of their comrades, not the country.
If the military continues to treat their most valuable assets in that manner, it will only be a matter of time before our military is completely broken.
Pop another antidepressant!
Forget about it!
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What's missing in his account is any expression of sympathy for the people in iraq who have suffered equally and more than him, and for whom the bad guy carrying out the atrocity was Sgt Northcutt and his marine buddies.
His story would be more compelling if he had expressed some remorse for the victims in Iraq.
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Posted by: Ian MacLeod on Sep 1, 2009 9:44 AM
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The government thinks vets are dangerous - to the government especially - and cops think vets are a threat to their own credibility as "tough guys". That leaves us in pretty bad shape sometimes, even at my age - 54, and disabled, walking with a cane. It's insane! This kid got lucky. Now what about the thousands who haven't?
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My son is of age and I tried to remain neutral but when we talked about Military service and he laughed and said "right Dad" I almost jumped for joy, the boy is smarter than I thought!!! I then asked him why he wouldn't serve and he gave me a DUH look and told me exactly how he felt. Since then I have encouraged every kid I can to find another route, the military is for chumps and this country is not worth losing your life for. Maybe once it was worth fighting for but now it is just wars for profit and that sucks.
Bring back the draft and make EVERYONE serve so all demographics have a chance to get their asses blown up.
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Posted by: Grandma Crabby on Sep 1, 2009 11:41 AM
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First...
The government encourages his participation in hideous brutality. He goes nuts. The world acts like this is a good and worthwhile activity in exchange for the righteous USA.
Next...
He becomes a gardener of joy. You know, all that back to nature, God's medicine and stuff. They punish him for it.
Excuse me...
What idiots are deciding what is right and wrong in this world?
Luv,
Granny
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Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Sep 1, 2009 1:56 PM
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Another thing, if it were not for the war machine, we would not be fighting wars for oil but instead growing this same plant for a variety of energy needs. Fighting wars for oil and yet prohibiting our rights to grow our own peacefully are one of the worst policies I could ever come across.
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Posted by: tokerdesigner on Sep 1, 2009 6:17 PM
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An Empire which kills 6 million of its loyal customers a year (does that number sound familiar? Newest American Cancer Society estimate) -- what will it do when it confronts a real enemy? Do you see the connection?
Medical marijuana can mean things like vaporizers, maybe even long-stemmed one-hitters-- DOWNDOSAGE. If 1.2 billion tobacco addicts imitate the more advanced cannabis users, and kick the cigarette format, the profit margin in the hot burning overdose cigarette industry is doomed. That has to be the reason why the fagpushers hate marijuana and everyone who has anything to do with promoting it!
Now think about another thing: bad as it sounds what happened to Northcutt, the lost benefits, $20,000 attorney etc., think about the personal story behind each of those 6 m(k)illion deaths a year from hot burning overdose nicotine cigarette addiction-- advancing disease, blood pressure meds, maybe a $hundred grand expenditures on drugs, hospital, doctor care, etc. in the last decade of life even if they reach "normal" lifespan. All the ways Big pHARMa rides on Big 2WackGo and cashes in near the end, so Jennifer is right!
Of course if the guy is a farmer in China he spends less money and dies sooner and more painfully.
If Sgt. Northcutt is afraid henceforth, and reasonably so, to raise the good plants, he might consider getting into the vaporizer, e-cigarette, smokeless tobacco marketing business in some way. Directly attack the real enemy behind all the cops and prosecutors (a certain percent of whose pay is from cigarette taxes, and they know it; in some countries like "tobackgo stand" Pakistan, it's 10%)-- but fight them in a positive way by contributing to the Downdosage Revolution, converting overdosers one by one to low-profit Smokeless Nicotine Administration Systems (SNAS). Or if he can't stand being near tobacco any more, check out that clinic in Oakland which makes medical-grade cannabis, and help them develop an e-cigarette with THC in the cartridge which can be used by Dr. Craker at U. Mass/Amherst, and other researchers, to nail down a legally defensible safe delivery system for medical MJ patients, some of whom are recent war survivors and acquaintances of his.
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Posted by: Bearzerker on Sep 2, 2009 12:20 AM
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it only makes sence that pot would be an excellent medicine to counter the serious effects that prolonged exposure that combat agrivates.
why do professionals not see the medicinal need here?
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Posted by: SgtNorthcutt on Sep 3, 2009 12:51 PM
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Freedom of speech is alive and well on the web.
I just wanted to address some comments that I discuss with people alot.
One is the Iraqi people. They are a kind and wonderful people who deserve all the help we can give them to unfuck this situation. They are the true victims. Not a day goes by that I don't think about them as well.
The other is that while Fred Gardner did a great job on this interview, no journalist can never tell the whole story. Then, that's not their job. Their job is to alert us to the stories and events that exist currently so we can then look deeper into these issues ourselves and determine what action, if any, is required.
I am and always will be a Marine. I am proud of serving my country when she called. I am not proud that our country was hijacked, under our noses, by warmongers intent on using our greatest resource, our men and women in uniform, for thier personal gain.
It is the responsibility of the American people to take charge of their military and to ensure we are not deployed unjustly. I hope the changes we are seeing will reflect that.
But now that we are withdrawing from Iraq, beware of what the military industrial complex will do next. She will not go silently to sleep!
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Posted by: PJAW on Sep 1, 2009 3:22 AM
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It's aggravating and disappointing that he had to go through what he did, but he seems to now have a chance to live in peace. He should have his veterans' rights restored and be compensated for his financial losses, but I doubt that will happen without a lengthy and expensive legal battle.
I hope he manages to live a fairly normal life with his wife and child and can sit on the porch getting high and watching the sun set for as long as he cares to. And good luck with those bulging discs, I went through that scenario in my 20's.
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What a sad state of affairs this country is in....
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Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN on Sep 1, 2009 7:09 AM
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They are now slapping ALL of us, including older vets like me who are victimized by the fucked up VA ORDERING the drs in their clinics to do LITTLE OR NOTHING.
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The Military Industrial Complex used him, then discarded him when he was more of a liability than an asset. And, they got away from their obligations by not honoring his service, by taking his benefits.
As is so often true, the men and women return to combat because of their comrades, not the country.
If the military continues to treat their most valuable assets in that manner, it will only be a matter of time before our military is completely broken.
Pop another antidepressant!
Forget about it!
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What's missing in his account is any expression of sympathy for the people in iraq who have suffered equally and more than him, and for whom the bad guy carrying out the atrocity was Sgt Northcutt and his marine buddies.
His story would be more compelling if he had expressed some remorse for the victims in Iraq.
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Posted by: Ian MacLeod on Sep 1, 2009 9:44 AM
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The government thinks vets are dangerous - to the government especially - and cops think vets are a threat to their own credibility as "tough guys". That leaves us in pretty bad shape sometimes, even at my age - 54, and disabled, walking with a cane. It's insane! This kid got lucky. Now what about the thousands who haven't?
Ian MacLeod
Activist PRN, Nonprofit, Nonpartisan, 501(C)(3) Corporation.
Veteran, Disabled, Chronic Intractable Pain Patient, 25 years
Oathkeeper.
Primum, non nocere!
Illegitimis non carborundum!
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Posted by: Hiroak on Sep 1, 2009 10:26 AM
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My son is of age and I tried to remain neutral but when we talked about Military service and he laughed and said "right Dad" I almost jumped for joy, the boy is smarter than I thought!!! I then asked him why he wouldn't serve and he gave me a DUH look and told me exactly how he felt. Since then I have encouraged every kid I can to find another route, the military is for chumps and this country is not worth losing your life for. Maybe once it was worth fighting for but now it is just wars for profit and that sucks.
Bring back the draft and make EVERYONE serve so all demographics have a chance to get their asses blown up.
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Posted by: Grandma Crabby on Sep 1, 2009 11:41 AM
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First...
The government encourages his participation in hideous brutality. He goes nuts. The world acts like this is a good and worthwhile activity in exchange for the righteous USA.
Next...
He becomes a gardener of joy. You know, all that back to nature, God's medicine and stuff. They punish him for it.
Excuse me...
What idiots are deciding what is right and wrong in this world?
Luv,
Granny
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Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Sep 1, 2009 1:56 PM
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Another thing, if it were not for the war machine, we would not be fighting wars for oil but instead growing this same plant for a variety of energy needs. Fighting wars for oil and yet prohibiting our rights to grow our own peacefully are one of the worst policies I could ever come across.
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Posted by: tokerdesigner on Sep 1, 2009 6:17 PM
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An Empire which kills 6 million of its loyal customers a year (does that number sound familiar? Newest American Cancer Society estimate) -- what will it do when it confronts a real enemy? Do you see the connection?
Medical marijuana can mean things like vaporizers, maybe even long-stemmed one-hitters-- DOWNDOSAGE. If 1.2 billion tobacco addicts imitate the more advanced cannabis users, and kick the cigarette format, the profit margin in the hot burning overdose cigarette industry is doomed. That has to be the reason why the fagpushers hate marijuana and everyone who has anything to do with promoting it!
Now think about another thing: bad as it sounds what happened to Northcutt, the lost benefits, $20,000 attorney etc., think about the personal story behind each of those 6 m(k)illion deaths a year from hot burning overdose nicotine cigarette addiction-- advancing disease, blood pressure meds, maybe a $hundred grand expenditures on drugs, hospital, doctor care, etc. in the last decade of life even if they reach "normal" lifespan. All the ways Big pHARMa rides on Big 2WackGo and cashes in near the end, so Jennifer is right!
Of course if the guy is a farmer in China he spends less money and dies sooner and more painfully.
If Sgt. Northcutt is afraid henceforth, and reasonably so, to raise the good plants, he might consider getting into the vaporizer, e-cigarette, smokeless tobacco marketing business in some way. Directly attack the real enemy behind all the cops and prosecutors (a certain percent of whose pay is from cigarette taxes, and they know it; in some countries like "tobackgo stand" Pakistan, it's 10%)-- but fight them in a positive way by contributing to the Downdosage Revolution, converting overdosers one by one to low-profit Smokeless Nicotine Administration Systems (SNAS). Or if he can't stand being near tobacco any more, check out that clinic in Oakland which makes medical-grade cannabis, and help them develop an e-cigarette with THC in the cartridge which can be used by Dr. Craker at U. Mass/Amherst, and other researchers, to nail down a legally defensible safe delivery system for medical MJ patients, some of whom are recent war survivors and acquaintances of his.
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Posted by: Bearzerker on Sep 2, 2009 12:20 AM
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it only makes sence that pot would be an excellent medicine to counter the serious effects that prolonged exposure that combat agrivates.
why do professionals not see the medicinal need here?
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Posted by: SgtNorthcutt on Sep 3, 2009 12:51 PM
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Freedom of speech is alive and well on the web.
I just wanted to address some comments that I discuss with people alot.
One is the Iraqi people. They are a kind and wonderful people who deserve all the help we can give them to unfuck this situation. They are the true victims. Not a day goes by that I don't think about them as well.
The other is that while Fred Gardner did a great job on this interview, no journalist can never tell the whole story. Then, that's not their job. Their job is to alert us to the stories and events that exist currently so we can then look deeper into these issues ourselves and determine what action, if any, is required.
I am and always will be a Marine. I am proud of serving my country when she called. I am not proud that our country was hijacked, under our noses, by warmongers intent on using our greatest resource, our men and women in uniform, for thier personal gain.
It is the responsibility of the American people to take charge of their military and to ensure we are not deployed unjustly. I hope the changes we are seeing will reflect that.
But now that we are withdrawing from Iraq, beware of what the military industrial complex will do next. She will not go silently to sleep!
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