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Obama, Ignoring Local Outrage, Set to Expand U.S. Military Presence in Colombia
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Imagine that you live in a nice house in a tense neighborhood. Your neighbors haven't been too pleased with you lately, and you have a terrible roach infestation running havoc in your house. But perhaps there's hope.
A big, strong guy lives down the street, and is offering to help out. He has big guns and says he has just the spray to get rid of those pesky roaches if you just let him crash at your place.
I'm not the first to have used the tough-neighbor analogy when discussing a current proposal for seven U.S. military bases in Colombia, but others have failed to mention all the problematic side effects of inviting the neighbor to stay.
This neighbor has a very sketchy reputation and just may try to take advantage of your sister, not to mention raid your fridge and clog up your toilet. His presence will really upset your neighbors, even the ones with whom you have been friendly.
Although he says he's only staying at your house to help with the roaches and maybe intimidate the troublesome folks next door a bit, he always seems to get involved in other things: He traipses around in the neighbors' gardens and hassles his host's family members. Besides, his record in getting rid of the roaches isn't all that exemplary.
Is it really worth it?
Perhaps this analogy simplifies matters too much, but I'm not the only one playing with rhetoric. Barack Obama continues to defend the expansion of U.S. military operations in Latin America, arguing that the U.S. is not establishing bases in Colombia but simply extending existing agreements with the country.
Under U.S. military terminology -- using euphemisms that call to mind George W. Bush's "Clear Skies Initiative" -- the proposals for Colombia would not be bases because they would not be property of the U.S, but instead be called Forward Operating Locations, or Cooperative Security Locations.
Nonetheless, the U.S. would still have control over what happens in those installations, as it does in bases, and is insisting on immunity under Colombian law for its personnel. Argentine President Cristina Kirchner said it well when she joked to Colombia's President Alvaro Uribe last week, "Come on, nowhere in the world is a Gen. Fernandez going to give orders to a Gen. Johnson!"
The Colombian government has also been toying with words. The wordsmithing is apparent in a recent in a memo to the Colombian Senate explaining that the base plan is "a simplified agreement of technical cooperation and development of related bilateral agreements already in force."
Previous bilateral agreements, however, make no mention of U.S. military personnel being based in Colombia. So it's a bit of a stretch to claim this agreement is simply a matter of extending previous accords.
In Colombia, this renaming is part of the Uribe administration's strategy to slide the agreement through without submitting it to the Colombian Congress for approval. You see, the Colombian constitution requires congressional approval for international treaties and the submission of such agreements to review by the Constitutional Court, but not for extensions of previous treaties.
Despite Uribe's effort to avoid congressional input, some in Colombia's Senate aren't too sure that they like the idea of inviting the neighbor to stay.
Senators from the left-wing political party Polo Democrático have insisted on a public debate and are now fighting to have the administration submit the agreement to Congress, as the law requires.
The first session of the debate, held Tuesday, raised some very worrisome issues. Sen. Jorge Enrique Robledo of the Polo Democrático expressed concern that he and other members of opposition parties, investigative journalists and human-rights activists might themselves be in danger if the U.S. military sets up house in Colombia, given that a stated aim of the bases is counterterrorism.
"If Uribe claims that we are the 'intellectual bloc of the FARC' because we disagree with him, and the U.S. classifies the FARC as a terrorist organization, will we then be targets, too?" he asked.
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Posted by: mmckinl on Aug 22, 2009 12:54 AM
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The audacity of the Military Industrial Complex ... and it's new perpetrator ... Barack Obama ...
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Posted by: aahpat on Aug 22, 2009 5:38 AM
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Early in the spring he denied that he was escalating and militarizing the Mexican border and then submitted a $400 million supplemental to the $1.5-bn Plan Merida. And he since then has promised border governors 1,500 MORE national guard troops for the border.
He had his new drug czar, Gil Kerlikowske, disingenuously claim that they want to end the war on drugs when in fact and reality they included billions of dollars in police state escalation funds in the "stimulus" package. All that the $3-bn to multi jurisdiction drug task forces will stimulate is more over-crowded prisons, more drug crime and more criminally disenfranchised poverty oppressed urban minority communities in America.
The list of lies Obama drug war lies goes on endlessly. There were two more medical pot dispensary busts in California last week after repeated assertions from Obama's drug warrior Attorney General Eric Holder that the busts would stop.
WHATEVER BARACK OBAMA SAYS ABOUT HIS WAR ON DRUGS POLICY IS THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT HE INTENDS AND PLANS TO DO. BARACK OBAMA IS A LYING AUTHORITARIAN NO DIFFERENT FROM ANY REICH-WINGER.
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EVERYONE who prosecutes the war on drugs should themselves be prosecuted and punished for crimes against humanity.
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Posted by: When In Doubt on Aug 22, 2009 6:49 AM
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Will Truthout be next?
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» Wrong, the archive is not your friend, PB. Thanks for proving yourself wrong.
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» I don't want the last word, Jennifer, I want answers to my questions.
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» Jenn, I'm glad I could help out.
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» Let's see your archive evidence, Benn. I'm still waiting.
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Posted by: weathered on Aug 22, 2009 6:50 AM
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WE now wish to occupy Coke & Heroin production all in broad daylight.
America is soul sick and the infection took hold w/a the 2000 stolen election.
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Posted by: bonapartist on Aug 22, 2009 8:55 AM
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That being said the Latin America is slipping from US grasp - Castros on Cuba, Ortega in Nicaragua, Chavez in Venezuela and Morales in Bolivia. Not to mention that others, like Lula of Brazil, are none too trustworthy.
Excellent, the US empire is streteched thin with troops deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan. The treasury is empty, many Americans are unemployed and are not keen to support neo colonialism that fills the pockets of US rulling oligarchy. From the outside the Russians and Chinese are moving in.
All in all not the best time to be playing imperialism in Latin America but Obama will do what he is told.
Chavez was obviously right to expand and ready Venezuelan military and talk to the Russians. After all, he knows what he is dealing with. Dictator or not he is a boyscout in comparison of what would US instal if they every get a grip on Venezuela again.
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Posted by: aahpat on Aug 22, 2009 11:02 AM
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Sen. Jim Webb of Virginia authored S-714 to create a national criminal justice commission to look into all aspects of the use of America's criminal justice system.
Sen. Webb has even indicated that marijuana legalization is "On the table".
Thus far 33 senators have signed on to Sen. Webb's S-714 as co-sponsors. S-714 tally sheet of senators thus far co-sponsoring the bill.
The bill needs all the support it can get because drug war supporters have offered a counter bill in the House of Representative.
H.R. 2943
To eliminate most Federal penalties for possession of marijuana for personal use, and for other purposes. Please consider writing to your representative and asking that they support this bill.
Fax your members of congress and demand that they support these bills. If your senators already support S-714 Write to them and thank them. They will need your show of support when the bill comes up for debate.
Ending the global human rights atrocity that is the war on drugs is the ONLY SOLUTION.
IF THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS DOES NOT HEAR IT FROM US THEY WILL NOT HEAR IT!
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» A stolen election in 2000,
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» and 2004 and 2008.
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» BUT WAIT!!! (Gasp!)
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Posted by: foreverhope on Aug 22, 2009 4:04 PM
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The turmoil of these days, the strain & stress,
The dawn's despair, the night's uneasiness,
The greed of itching palms throughout the land?
Will they conceive the fires fanatics fanned,
Of time the universal wastefulness,
The strange philosophies the mobs confess
That every throat cry out some new demands?
Time was when men held saner counsel here,
Will that time come again? Shall we behold
From this grim madness some new love unfold?
We pray for gentler times, when man shall cease
His brother man to bully or to fear.
Great God, among ourselves let us have peace!
The Desiderata of Happiness
A collection of philosophical poems
by Max Ehrmann, author of Desiderata
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Thanks Alternet.
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Posted by: tazdelaney on Aug 24, 2009 10:13 AM
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and SOFA will protect US military personnel from any charges as it has for decades in japan, where hundreds of cases of rape and gang rape of civilians by US military personnel have gone unpunished.
while chavez has recently been makiing what i regard as his first major mistakes – suppressing media and seeking eternal presidency... he has fought the US and its multinational resource-thieves; he has seriously improved the lot of the poor, drastically increased housing and education funding as part of a modest redistribution of wealth and he stands for latin american independence from the oligarchs and hegemons like a true bolivarian. as such, chavez, morales and the increasingly anti-imperialist anti-colonial rest of south america are seen as a 'destabilizing threat' by the USG which would like nothing better than to create an 'event', say like 911, to 'justify' wars and invasions throughout the region – for which these bases in colombia are preparation.
the good news? if the USG goes to war against the south americans; it will make vietnam, iraq and afghanistan look easy. with about 40 milion hispanics now living in the USA; i can see LA burning and whole new gitmos full of latino 'terrorists.' overextension abroad in conquests is the usual way in which thug empires (all empires, that is), are brought down to dust. so have at it.
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The neo-right wing Obama puppet regime, will one day be seen by history as the provisional front for the American fascism it objectively serves. The Columbia situation, and more emerging evidence, only adds fuel to the fire. The time has long passed when such thoughts can continue to be cavalierly dismissed as the rantings of unstable lunatics. History may someday unequivocally show, that this has been true for the last 50 years or so! America is all about the military and rampant militarism; that, and ONLY that. Let us hope South Americans can somehow subvert and overthrow the American puppet Uribe in Columbia, and preempt the coming of a permanent American imperialism, in it as as yet, nascent stages. America needs and requires fascism, as other nations require fresh air. And, unsurprisingly, based on all too many of the fascist comments on this ostensibly 'liberal' blog, do a goodly portion of its ignorant citizenry.–(Jill Bains)
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Could this be the beginning of...peace in our time??? C'mon--sit back with me, and--
A-h-h-h-h...
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Posted by: mmckinl on Aug 22, 2009 12:54 AM
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The audacity of the Military Industrial Complex ... and it's new perpetrator ... Barack Obama ...
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» viable democracy
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» AUDACITY IS RIGHT!
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» Honduras > Colombia > Venezuela, the bankrupt imperialism
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Posted by: aahpat on Aug 22, 2009 5:38 AM
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Early in the spring he denied that he was escalating and militarizing the Mexican border and then submitted a $400 million supplemental to the $1.5-bn Plan Merida. And he since then has promised border governors 1,500 MORE national guard troops for the border.
He had his new drug czar, Gil Kerlikowske, disingenuously claim that they want to end the war on drugs when in fact and reality they included billions of dollars in police state escalation funds in the "stimulus" package. All that the $3-bn to multi jurisdiction drug task forces will stimulate is more over-crowded prisons, more drug crime and more criminally disenfranchised poverty oppressed urban minority communities in America.
The list of lies Obama drug war lies goes on endlessly. There were two more medical pot dispensary busts in California last week after repeated assertions from Obama's drug warrior Attorney General Eric Holder that the busts would stop.
WHATEVER BARACK OBAMA SAYS ABOUT HIS WAR ON DRUGS POLICY IS THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT HE INTENDS AND PLANS TO DO. BARACK OBAMA IS A LYING AUTHORITARIAN NO DIFFERENT FROM ANY REICH-WINGER.
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Posted by: aahpat on Aug 22, 2009 5:47 AM
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EVERYONE who prosecutes the war on drugs should themselves be prosecuted and punished for crimes against humanity.
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» Yeah, I remember. Daniel Ortega scared the bejesus out of those manly Reichwingers.
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» No Brains, some balls!
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» RE: No Brains, some balls!
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» RE: No Brains, some balls! Spurious
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» RE: Finally some balls!
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» Joined at the Hip?
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» China manages the Panama Canal
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» The Americas do not belong to us
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» Sorry to burst your bubble...
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» RE: Sorry to burst your bubble...
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» RE: Sorry to burst your bubble...
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» RE: Finally some balls!
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» ASSHOLE!!
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Posted by: When In Doubt on Aug 22, 2009 6:49 AM
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Will Truthout be next?
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» RE: The New War
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» RE: The New War
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» The archive is not your friend, Benn
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» Wrong, the archive is not your friend, PB. Thanks for proving yourself wrong.
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» We're fringe right-wing lunatics? Projecting, Benn?
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» Sticks and stones may break my bones but you are one dumb meathead !
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» Thank you, benn miller !
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» Telling half-truths, Jennifer?
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» RE: Telling half-truths, Jennifer?
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» I don't want the last word, Jennifer, I want answers to my questions.
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» RE: Telling half-truths, Jennifer?
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» Jenn, I'm glad I could help out.
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» Let's see your archive evidence, Benn. I'm still waiting.
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» RE: Let's see your archive evidence, Benn. I'm still waiting.
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» RE: Let's see your archive evidence, Benn. I'm still waiting.
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» Pelican beak loves to lie and invent and then blame others for it. Typical rightwing behavior.
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» In addition to being a naughty naughty atheist, Beak's lying will earn him more punishment from GOD!
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» Go away, benn. All you do is insult Alternet and brag that you never support it
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» As Obama worsens, his PR shills get ever more desperate.
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» It ALWAYS comes down to "Obama must go." Everything does, for you.
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» With the way Obama is handling things, how hard is it to not stay an Archie Bunker grouch?
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» Where were your voices during W? Silent. We know NOTHING of your real background.
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» You Obama cultists are once again lying and defending Obama.
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» And W? Jennifer was right. Obama does everything W does, she exposes it, and you, Beck, etc...
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» Will you two stop fighting and just give it a rest ?
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» RE: Will you two stop fighting and just give it a rest ?
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» Benn, I'm still waiting for your evidence
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» Didn't have to post repeatedly just to beg.
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» AlterNet has contracted a serious RenseMonkey infection.
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» You and Pelican Beak are the reason Alternet is failing and conservatives are laughing !
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» Hold me accountable for what, 'tard? Exposing the RenseMonkeys to the light of day?
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» So you and Pelican Beak think you're the authorities? No wonder Alternet is getting worse.
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» AlterNet is getting worse? That's your opinion--and your opinoin only.
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» I'm still waiting for your archival evidence. You seem to be BUSTED, Benn.
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» That's because they're not "third party" advocates. They're Republicans masquerading as liberals.
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» Neither guitarbill nor pelican beak are honest about themselves or their own Democratic Party.
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» Benn, make no mistake, we don't want you in the Democratic Party.
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» No problem. I didn't leave the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party left me !
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» Benn, God is punishing guitarbill and the Democratic Party for their crimes !
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» Don't think it's God. It's their own attitude problems that are killing them.
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» You don't "reason" with anyone, wing-nut.
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» "God" is punishing me, MaxPayne?
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» Naaah
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» RE: Naaah
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» Benn, I'm STILL waiting for your archival evidence to support your claim.
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» Apparently, you have selective recall but here's the earliest article I posted to
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» RE: Apparently, you have selective recall but here's the earliest article I posted to
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» RE: Apparently, you have selective recall but here's the earliest article I posted to
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» Benn, GOD is punishing pelican beak for being a very naughty naughty atheist.
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» a very naughty naughty atheist.
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» MaxPayne is the only person I know of who uses the phrase "God is punishing America."
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» RE: MaxPayne is the only person I know of who uses the phrase "God is punishing America."
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» Pelican Beak and Guitarbill are part of the Obama cultists paid to distract and troll.
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» the neo far right wing of the wingnuts - aka the be-nice-about-Obama-or-else cultists.
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» RE: The New War is the old Plan Columbia being put into action
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» RE: The New War
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Posted by: weathered on Aug 22, 2009 6:50 AM
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WE now wish to occupy Coke & Heroin production all in broad daylight.
America is soul sick and the infection took hold w/a the 2000 stolen election.
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» East Palo Alto is a "Ghetto"? Obviously you haven't been out to CA in a while.
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Posted by: bonapartist on Aug 22, 2009 8:55 AM
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That being said the Latin America is slipping from US grasp - Castros on Cuba, Ortega in Nicaragua, Chavez in Venezuela and Morales in Bolivia. Not to mention that others, like Lula of Brazil, are none too trustworthy.
Excellent, the US empire is streteched thin with troops deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan. The treasury is empty, many Americans are unemployed and are not keen to support neo colonialism that fills the pockets of US rulling oligarchy. From the outside the Russians and Chinese are moving in.
All in all not the best time to be playing imperialism in Latin America but Obama will do what he is told.
Chavez was obviously right to expand and ready Venezuelan military and talk to the Russians. After all, he knows what he is dealing with. Dictator or not he is a boyscout in comparison of what would US instal if they every get a grip on Venezuela again.
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» PS Monroe Doctrine sinking
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Posted by: aahpat on Aug 22, 2009 11:02 AM
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Sen. Jim Webb of Virginia authored S-714 to create a national criminal justice commission to look into all aspects of the use of America's criminal justice system.
Sen. Webb has even indicated that marijuana legalization is "On the table".
Thus far 33 senators have signed on to Sen. Webb's S-714 as co-sponsors. S-714 tally sheet of senators thus far co-sponsoring the bill.
The bill needs all the support it can get because drug war supporters have offered a counter bill in the House of Representative.
H.R. 2943
To eliminate most Federal penalties for possession of marijuana for personal use, and for other purposes. Please consider writing to your representative and asking that they support this bill.
Fax your members of congress and demand that they support these bills. If your senators already support S-714 Write to them and thank them. They will need your show of support when the bill comes up for debate.
Ending the global human rights atrocity that is the war on drugs is the ONLY SOLUTION.
IF THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS DOES NOT HEAR IT FROM US THEY WILL NOT HEAR IT!
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» CORRECTION --- H.R. 2943 ---
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» RE: Better Solution Than Writing to Drug Warrior Clinton
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» Yes he is!
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» RE: Obama is a war criminal just like Dubya.
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» "...the baneful effects of the Spirit of Party"
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Posted by: maxsmart on Aug 22, 2009 1:02 PM
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Posted by: Jill 2 on Aug 22, 2009 2:03 PM
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» A stolen election in 2000,
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» and 2004 and 2008.
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» BUT WAIT!!! (Gasp!)
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» RE: Pentagon military coup in America?
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Posted by: foreverhope on Aug 22, 2009 4:04 PM
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The turmoil of these days, the strain & stress,
The dawn's despair, the night's uneasiness,
The greed of itching palms throughout the land?
Will they conceive the fires fanatics fanned,
Of time the universal wastefulness,
The strange philosophies the mobs confess
That every throat cry out some new demands?
Time was when men held saner counsel here,
Will that time come again? Shall we behold
From this grim madness some new love unfold?
We pray for gentler times, when man shall cease
His brother man to bully or to fear.
Great God, among ourselves let us have peace!
The Desiderata of Happiness
A collection of philosophical poems
by Max Ehrmann, author of Desiderata
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Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Aug 22, 2009 10:23 PM
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Thanks Alternet.
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Posted by: tazdelaney on Aug 24, 2009 10:13 AM
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and SOFA will protect US military personnel from any charges as it has for decades in japan, where hundreds of cases of rape and gang rape of civilians by US military personnel have gone unpunished.
while chavez has recently been makiing what i regard as his first major mistakes – suppressing media and seeking eternal presidency... he has fought the US and its multinational resource-thieves; he has seriously improved the lot of the poor, drastically increased housing and education funding as part of a modest redistribution of wealth and he stands for latin american independence from the oligarchs and hegemons like a true bolivarian. as such, chavez, morales and the increasingly anti-imperialist anti-colonial rest of south america are seen as a 'destabilizing threat' by the USG which would like nothing better than to create an 'event', say like 911, to 'justify' wars and invasions throughout the region – for which these bases in colombia are preparation.
the good news? if the USG goes to war against the south americans; it will make vietnam, iraq and afghanistan look easy. with about 40 milion hispanics now living in the USA; i can see LA burning and whole new gitmos full of latino 'terrorists.' overextension abroad in conquests is the usual way in which thug empires (all empires, that is), are brought down to dust. so have at it.
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» The Heart of the Matter
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Posted by: Jill 2 on Aug 28, 2009 4:40 PM
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The neo-right wing Obama puppet regime, will one day be seen by history as the provisional front for the American fascism it objectively serves. The Columbia situation, and more emerging evidence, only adds fuel to the fire. The time has long passed when such thoughts can continue to be cavalierly dismissed as the rantings of unstable lunatics. History may someday unequivocally show, that this has been true for the last 50 years or so! America is all about the military and rampant militarism; that, and ONLY that. Let us hope South Americans can somehow subvert and overthrow the American puppet Uribe in Columbia, and preempt the coming of a permanent American imperialism, in it as as yet, nascent stages. America needs and requires fascism, as other nations require fresh air. And, unsurprisingly, based on all too many of the fascist comments on this ostensibly 'liberal' blog, do a goodly portion of its ignorant citizenry.–(Jill Bains)
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Could this be the beginning of...peace in our time??? C'mon--sit back with me, and--
A-h-h-h-h...
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