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Is Big Pharma Trying to Take All the Fun out of Pot?

Drug researchers are trying to replicate marijuana's therapeutic effects, but without the "side effect" of getting people high.
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Pricey pharmaceutical-marketing newsletters have touted cannabis-derived drugs as the next blockbuster for the industry, but the biggest companies are primarily researching drugs whose effect is the opposite of the cannabis herb.

Numerous drug researchers are trying to develop medications that replicate the herb's therapeutic effects without the harm of inhaling smoke and the side effect of getting people high.

Others are looking into cannabinoid agonists, drugs that enhance the body's natural cannabinoid system -- or cannabinoid antagonists, which disrupt it, and have been the pharmaceutical industry's main focus. Despite the millions of medical-marijuana users, both U.S. government restrictions and drug companies' need for exclusive ownership have limited research into herbal cannabis.

In any case, it will likely be a while before many cannabis-derived drugs arrive in your local pharmacy.

"There's a lot of interest out there, but there's nothing that's going to be released in the next week," said a longtime medical-cannabis researcher who asked to remain anonymous.

So far, only three such drugs are on the market.

  • Cesamet (Valeant Pharmaceuticals), used for chemotherapy-nausea treatment, went on sale in the United States in 2006. It contains nabilone, a synthetic analog of THC, the primary psychoactive ingredient in cannabis.
  • Marinol, synthetic THC in capsules, has been on the market since 1986. It is now manufactured by the Belgian firm Solvay Pharmaceuticals, and generic versions are beginning to come out.
  • Sativex, a whole-cannabis-extract spray produced by the British firm GW Pharmaceuticals, is available in Canada. It is oromucosal, meaning it is absorbed by the mucous membranes under the tongue and on the inside of the cheeks, and it contains approximately equal proportions of THC and cannabidiol (CBD). CBD is a cannabinoid thought to reduce both pain and the more nerve-jangling aspects of the marijuana high. The spray is undergoing Phase III trials -- large-scale human studies of its efficacy -- for multiple sclerosis in Europe and cancer pain in the U.S.

At least five of the world's top 10 pharmaceutical companies have looked into the field. In 2006, there were about 18 cannabinoid-related compounds under active pharmaceutical development, says Dr. George Kunos, scientific director of the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism at the National Institutes of Health. They were primarily cannabinoid antagonists.

Many of those, however, may never make it to market. New drugs need to be proven safe and effective, drug companies want them to be profitable, and the approval process can take as long as 10 years.

In January, Novartis announced that it had completed Phase I tests of a cannabinoid agonist called CRA13, which might be used to treat chronic pain. Phase I tests are a small-scale study of the drug's safety, how well human subjects tolerate it, and its "pharmacokinetics" -- how quickly it gets into the body, where it goes and how long it stays.

Big Pharma's first move into cannabinoid drugs, however, ended in failure. In 2006, the French company Sanofi-Aventis began selling in Europe rimonabant, a cannabinoid antagonist, as an appetite suppressant under the brand name Acomplia.

By blocking the action of natural cannabinoids at "CB1 receptor" sites in the brain, Acomplia created the opposite of the "munchies." (As one drug company put it, activation of CB1 receptors "appears to provoke food intake even in the setting of satiety.") The drug also showed promise for diabetes, says Kunos, because it increased the body's sensitivity to insulin. A British pharmaceutical-business newsletter predicted that Acomplia would be "the first of the cannabinoid blockbusters."

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration, however, rejected Acomplia in 2007, because its side effects included suicidal thoughts. Last fall, the European Medical Agency recommended taking the drug off the market because it increased the risk of depression. In November, Sanofi-Aventis announced it was stopping all research on it.

Pfizer and Merck Sharp & Dohme, which had similar drugs in Phase III trials, suspended their development as well. Solvay, which had had a marketing deal with Bristol-Myers Squibb for a cannabis antagonist it called SLV319, also canceled its research. Phase II studies had found SLV319 an effective anti-obesity drug, but the company's head of research cited "high regulatory hurdles."

The risks might have been foreseen. Because the endocannabinoid system was not discovered until the early '90s, its role in regulating emotions and the effects of disrupting it are far from understood.

In 2003, neurochemist Dale Deutsch, former head of the International Cannabinoid Research Society, predicted that cannabinoid antagonists would be effective appetite suppressants, but that people taking them "might be really irritable."

Drug researchers are now trying to find a cannabinoid antagonist without the psychiatric side effects. Meanwhile, "online pharmacies" still advertise rimonabant with "discreet packaging" and "anonymous delivery."

Johnson & Johnson says it is not researching cannabinoid drugs, and a company spokesperson said it was "not aware of any" other companies doing so. On the other hand, drug companies are not likely to tell competitors about the research they're doing.

"This is all proprietary information," notes Paul Armentano of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws. "I have reason to believe there has been an explosion in cannabinoid-based drug research, but we in the general public are not going to be made aware of it until these drugs are close to market."

5 Types of Pot Drugs

Researchers are looking into five main areas for cannabinoid drugs. The first two comprise plant extracts and purified forms of THC. The other three involve drugs that affect the endocannabinoid system.

GW Pharmaceuticals' Sativex is the whole-plant extract closest to U.S. availability. It has been in development for several years. It was designed as a spray so it would get into the body and act almost as quickly as smoked cannabis does. This would avoid the main complaints patients have about orally administered THC: that it can take an hour or more to take effect, that it is difficult to calculate whether a dose will be ineffective or overwhelming, and that oral medications are useless if you're too nauseous to keep them down.

GW has also just begun research on whether CBD combined with another cannabinoid, THCV, might help treat Type 2 diabetes.
Longtime medical-marijuana advocates Dr. Robert Melamede, a biologist at the University of Colorado at Colorado Springs, and California activist Steve Kubby co-founded Cannabis Science, Inc. The company says it plans to develop plant-based drugs and proprietary delivery systems for them, introducing them in the Canadian market first. It also offered "420 Commemorative Certificates" to anyone who bought stock before April 20. In early July, however, the company fired Kubby amid mutual accusations of financial malfeasance.

One major obstacle for U.S. researchers trying to develop plant-based cannabis drugs is the federal restrictions on the supply of the plant. The only legal source is the lab of Dr. Mahmoud ElSohly at the University of Mississippi. He has had an exclusive contract with the National Institute on Drug Abuse, which must approve researchers' requests to obtain cannabis, for almost 40 years.

NIDA has had a strong prejudice in favor of studies aimed at evaluating marijuana's abuse potential. It has denied a supply to several well-known researchers planning studies on medical cannabis.

The Drug Enforcement Administration has refused to grant anyone else a license to grow cannabis for research. In January, it denied one to Lyle Craker, a professor at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst, who had applied in 2001 and wound up suing to get the agency to act on his request. The DEA overruled its own administrative judge, who in 2007 had urged ending the federal monopoly. The judge summarized the testimony of one medical witness for the DEA as "he considers medical marijuana an excuse for legalization."

"You can't get permission to even touch the marijuana," says Armentano.

Fewer obstacles exist in Europe. But when Weleda AG, a German herbal-medicine and cosmetics company, funded a British study of THC-CBD extract for multiple-sclerosis spasticity, it was terminated for lack of volunteers.

Generic forms of Marinol, THC under the name "dronabinol," are beginning to reach the U.S. market. Two leading generic-drug manufacturers, Par Pharmaceutical and Watson Pharmaceuticals, began selling it last year, with Watson the authorized licensee of Solvay.

Bionorica AG, a veteran German herbal-medicine company, is seeking FDA approval for a version of dronabinol containing THC extracted from plants. The company has been selling it in pharmacies in Germany and Austria for the past 10 or 12 years, says Gary Klein, its U.S. representative. It's also looking at developing THC in droplets that would be absorbed on the underside of the tongue.

ElSohly, who has the U.S. government monopoly on research cannabis, is working with Mallinckrodt to develop a plant-extract form of Marinol. Medical-cannabis advocates sharply criticize him for that. Americans for Safe Access charges that he "benefits from such a monopoly by financially profiting from the research and sale of cannabis-based pharmaceuticals."

ElSohly has also patented a suppository containing THC hemisuccinate, which breaks down into THC once it is absorbed by the body. That is "not a popular form of drug delivery," observes the anonymous medical-marijuana researcher. (The 1960s comedian Lenny Bruce would disagree; he enjoyed morphine suppositories.)

Cannasat Therapeutics, a Canadian company, is applying to patent a THC pill called Relivar for neuropathic pain. Like some triptan migraine-abortive drugs, the pill would melt in the mouth instead of having to be digested. The company claims that this will make the drug act faster, get a higher proportion of it into the blood, and make it less intoxicating than oral THC pills. Cannasat is also working on a CBD-based treatment for schizophrenia.

Research into the cannabinoid agonists-drugs, which enhance cannabinoids binding to receptors in the brain and body, has mainly been "preclinical," with tests on animals instead of humans, according to Kunos. Drug companies, he adds, have strong objections to them because they would be psychoactive, essentially mimicking the action of marijuana in the brain.

Pharmos, an Israeli company, had high hopes for a nonpsychoactive synthetic cannabinoid called HU-211. Preliminary studies indicated that it could protect the brain from the cascading neurochemical inferno set off by a stroke or traumatic injury, but Phase III studies in 2004 found it not significantly more effective than a placebo.

A fourth area is drugs that inhibit FAAH, the enzyme in the brain that breaks down the endocannabinoids anandamide and 2AG. These would work in a manner roughly analogous to antidepressants like Prozac, which inhibit the reuptake of serotonin. Danielle Piomelli of the University of California at Irvine has patented several possible FAAH-inhibiting medications, including an anxiety reducer, a cough suppressor and a pain reliever.

Finally, research into cannabinoid antagonists continues. Kunos says the goal now is to find one that's "non-brain-penetrant," a drug that would affect only cannabinoid receptors outside the brain, and therefore wouldn't have the psychiatric side effects that derailed rimonabant. He says the animal models are promising.

7TM Pharma, a Danish company that specializes in drugs for metabolic disorders, plans to start trials of a cannabinoid antagonist this year in the treatment of obesity and Type 2 diabetes. It says the drug "has been designed to exclusively exert its therapeutic effect through CB1 receptors located in the peripheral tissue" instead of those in the brain.

The Medical Possibilities of Cannabis

Meanwhile, numerous academic researchers are uncovering myriad medical possibilities for cannabis and the cannabinoids. In one study released in the last year, researchers at Complutense University in Madrid found that THC caused brain-cancer cells to destroy themselves.

At the University of Erlangen in Germany, a CB2-receptor agonist reduced the dermal thickening and fibrosis found in the early stages of multiple sclerosis, and it also diminished the damage done by lowered blood supply to the brain in an animal model of stroke.

A Canadian military psychiatrist said that nabilone reduced or eliminated nightmares in 34 of the 47 post-traumatic stress syndrome patients he studied.

The University of California at San Diego is currently investigating whether vaporized cannabis can help relieve diabetic neuropathic pain.

Medical-marijuana advocates maintain that whole-plant drugs will be the most effective. Research has shown that the synergy of multiple cannabinoids works better than any single molecule in the plant, argues Caren Woodson of Americans for Safe Access.

"The strongest drug isn't necessarily the best," adds the anonymous researcher. The body's systems are subtle and need "a gentle nudge, not a big shove," he argues, and potent synthetic molecules are more likely to be toxic than substances people have used for thousands of years. The liver, he says, will have a hard time processing "a hairy molecule with lots of fluorine and side chains."

The profit system puts the pure cannabis herb at a disadvantage. Drug companies are not going to put time and money into a substance they can't patent, notes Woodson. On the other hand, they can patent tinctures, methods of extraction, and vaporizers -- which boil the THC into an inhalable steam instead of burning the herb into a toxic smoke.

Those means of drug administration are also more likely to satisfy the medical community's anathema to smoking and its desire for precise, standardized doses.

Woodson suspects that the focus on synthetic cannabinoids may be a "backdoor way" to deny approval of medical marijuana. On the other hand, she notes, the FDA has approved four Phase I studies of smoked marijuana for pain relief in HIV-AIDS patients, and the state of California is funding them. At this point, she says, "anything that gets the FDA one step closer to approving cannabis" is a good thing.

"We could be looking at the aspirin of the 21st century," she says, but it's not going to happen until "pharmaceutical companies can investigate it in the same way that they investigate any other drug."

Steven Wishnia is a New York-based journalist and musician. The author of Exit 25 Utopia and The Cannabis Companion, he has won two New York City Independent Press Association awards for his coverage of housing issues. He is looking for a job.
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keep denying the truth
Posted by: swansong on Jul 25, 2009 1:26 AM   
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that marijuana use is safe and highly effective as a medication, and that hemp is the future of our non-petroleum based materials industry. Big Pharma and Big Ag are trying to synthetically remake everything on Earth so that they can patent and control it. Profit over sensibility?!?

Why spend extra time and energy to make a chemical that mimics what already exists and can be grown and processed cheaply and on a massive scale. The seeds and fiber are superior for use as a nutritional supplement and for high quality paper, fine linen, and even organic plastics.

George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, and Abraham Lincoln are all documented as having regularly smoked marijuana (the first three grew it), and very few are aware of the early US' economic and industrial success that was dependent on the hemp crop.

DON'T DENY HISTORY -- EMBRACE EFFICIENCY AND SUSTAINABILITY -- PROMOTE COMPASSION NOT PROFIT

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Pharma & No Fun
Posted by: 3party on Jul 25, 2009 1:46 AM   
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It is only right and proper that Big Pharma should work on taking the fun out of m.j. because, simply stated, otherwise people might enjoy it. You may have noticed that the Number One criterion for banning things is that someone, somewhere might enjoy them. Because people all over the world were alleged to enjoy marijuana, its banishment inexorably followed. Because prohibition has such a splendid history in this country (e.g. No prohibition, no bootleggers. No bootleggers, no Kennedy fortune, no Kennedys), it is only natural that Congress would make use of it. By ensuring that the marijuana trade is controlled by criminals, Congress may have created the ideal conditions for the emergence of a new Kennedy-like clan.

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Big Pharma's Needs
Posted by: billslm on Jul 25, 2009 2:10 AM   
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So...due to Big Pharma's "need" for exclusive ownership of a weed which, in fact, belongs to us all, cannabis sativa will not become legal anytime in the next century. Well, some of us have been hollering this for awhile now, saying that the main reason that the feds will not legalize pot is that Big Pharma wants it for themselves. If all you guys want to sit around and let the corporations divide up the planet's natural resources for profit, and patent pot so that it really will belong to them, the way all the corn and soy seeds in the world now belong to Monsanto, (and you have to pay Monsanto to plant them,) you go ahead and sit on your fat asses. In the same way, about ten years ago, Merck tried to steal that medical tree from India so that the Indian people who have used the tree for thousands of years would no longer be allowed to use it or even grow it. Fortunately the Indian Government told the Swiss Patent office to go F*ck itself and the issue was dropped.

The rest of us will make sure that something is done to restore the balance in the USA. Some sort of rational law--- rather than laws written by lobbyists and other criminals.

I for one have had enough of the men I voted to send to Congress put their thumbs to their noses and wiggle their fingers in my face.

These corrupt corporations flourished, starting with the great liar, Reagan, and culminated in the Bush/Cheney era, with their corruption and barely legal lobbying which really amount to flat-out blackmail in many cases and bribery otherwise. The time of privatization where any corporation could get any law they wanted and have it written in their language is now past. For instance, how long will Americans put up with the fact that it is a Federal Offence to verbally assault a vegetable in some states. No, I am not playing with you, in some states you may not speak ill of a vegetable. Or they will press charges. That was a neat little law passed by the Monsanto former executives who now rule the FDA.

People, we have got to take our government back and by any means necessary.

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It's been tried
Posted by: joebanana on Jul 25, 2009 2:31 AM   
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But failed, the same goes for hemp oil, the finest machine oil known, it can't be replicated synthetically. First they have to figure out why the human brain has THC receptors, they're there for a reason, and they're the part that receives the THC and processes it, no other purpose. HUH. But I'm sure they can come up with a way for it to kill people, they're good at that. Funny, it's the only drug that is impossible to OD on, yet it's illegal, that's just sick.

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And another thing
Posted by: joebanana on Jul 25, 2009 2:39 AM   
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Why reinvent the wheel, what's the purpose of spending all this money to figure out how to make something that already exists? To make it better? like enriched uranium?

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Chill out
Posted by: dikfitzwell on Jul 25, 2009 3:08 AM   
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OK everyone. I am lighting up at this moment chill out, why the hostility?

Is it just cuz I want to feel good?..................Oh wait, that is why!!!

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Euphoria, a 'side effect'??
Posted by: marsmath on Jul 25, 2009 3:29 AM   
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eu·pho·ri·a (yōō-fôr'ē-a)
n. A feeling of great happiness or well-being.

What the hell is wrong with that? That's the nasty 'side effect' Big Pharma wants to eliminate. God made Cannabis that way for a reason. Don't tamper with perfection.

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the new asprin
Posted by: permanentilt on Jul 25, 2009 4:57 AM   
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"'We could be looking at the aspirin of the 21st century," she says, but it's not going to happen until "pharmaceutical companies can investigate it in the same way that they investigate any other drug.'"

This statement is true, and I'm not waiting for FDA approval to come around to this notion. Who smokes anymore anyways? Vaporization is my preferred method of delivery, no harmful smoking side effects.

They can isolate and derivate all they want, but till it is legal and medically available, my dealer will be able to better provide my medicine than a pharmacy. Euphoria and legal repercussions be damned, it is stupid to deny yourself the healing potential of this herb.

And if they really want to harness the potential of this plant, the government really needs to use that patent to grow the good stuff. Anyone with half a brain knows the healing potential of a "white rhino" is about 1000 times the potential of the Mexican dirt schwagg the government provides to study these new meds.

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Smoking pot is like eating food...
Posted by: sausage on Jul 25, 2009 5:44 AM   
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it's nutritious and delicious.

Think about it would you rather set down to a well prepared and cooked meal or a plateful of pills. The pills will contain all the nutrients and vitamins found in the real food but which would you rather "eat?"

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LOL
Posted by: aadinko on Jul 25, 2009 5:59 AM   
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ROTFL, for 30+ years I have had plenty of fun with Pot without "Big Pharma" LOL

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It's the euphoria, stupid. Thou shalt not get high.
Posted by: grindermonkey on Jul 25, 2009 6:09 AM   
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Euphoria, whether drug induced or not, is anathema to our Judeochristian corporate elite. Keep the poor focused on fear. pain and their next scheduled appointment with the AMA representative in your neighborhood.

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A SIMPLE SOLUTION FOR THIS NONSENSE:
Posted by: AZLBRAX07 on Jul 25, 2009 6:21 AM   
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GROW YOUR OWN...

...just do it quietly!

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PROFITS BEFORE PATIENTS
Posted by: bryangalt on Jul 25, 2009 7:05 AM   
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The fact of the matter is, this country was originally founded by people that were so fervent in their belief that they were better than everyone else, that the Colonies had to be divided up based upon their various versions of faith.

When the time came for the Revolution, the big wheels at the time were getting stoned and came up with the brilliant "separation of powers" concept which led to a revolutionary form of government.

Since then, the leaders of this brand new mode of governance have done everything they can to assist the rich so that they can get richer, with most of this action being concentrated in the period since the end of WW2.

When 'WE THE PEOPLE' are scoffed at by President Obama when he reads a town hall question about legalization of marijuana, or the DEA tosses legalized sales dispensary operators into prison for 20 years for helping cancer patients, then SOMETHING IS TERRIBLY WRONG AND IT MUST BE CORRECTED!

I often marvel at the tremendous efforts humans go through to REPEAT HISTORY, over and over. Have we not learned that drug use can never be regulated, illegal or not? Have we not learned that the only way to stop it would be to create a society so draconian that every person would living "1984" on steroids?

If this is the pinnacle of our alleged intelligence, then extinction will be inevitable--luckily, that is one bit of history that even the dumbest amongst our species won't be repeating.

BRYAN GALT'S BLOG

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pleasure without profit is the biggest American taboo
Posted by: kenhymes on Jul 25, 2009 7:26 AM   
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You can see it in so many forms. Towns that suppress all-ages music venues not designed around alcohol and ticket sales, but around building a fun music scene. The obvious example of pot, which is dangerously pleasurable AND dangerously self-growable. Just look around in your life, what your choices for pleasure are, and what happens anytime a choice that is outside the profit stream is offered... Even sex must be commodified through advice books and porn and therapy. The most basic thing humans do has to be turned into a way of making money, way beyond the oldest profession. We're a sick culture, and we are being made sicker all the time by our acquiescence and cowardice on this.

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It's About $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ AND the RICH in Control....
Posted by: picket on Jul 25, 2009 7:45 AM   
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Upper class people LOVE their Cannabis TOO. Like fine wine and liquor they demand the best grade, dried to perfection. What I mean no wet dirt weed with stems and leaves and no risk for arrest. And the RICH DO get the BEST, if they want the best.

Now for the other 80% of the American Population. It is ALL about CONTROL. In the old days the method of control was if you were the wrong religion you could lose your home or be humiliated and whipped and tortured or butchered in front of those who had escaped, for the moment. That was the CONTROL. Now we are more civilized, hahahahahaha. Now 2.3 million Americans are taken away, 1 out of 38 Americans for the possession of Cannabis only and humiliated in public, defamed by being called "potheads".

Many hard working Americans are without the ability to keep $80.00 MD visits two or three times a year to get a legal RX for anxiety or pain medication or many other human conditions. And if there is any hint that the patient is an addict, even if not so, you know the story. Suffer you loser!!! Can't pay the bill? Get something on the street and suffer the consequences.

Now that Rich Obama and Gates are having a BEER with the COP I see no talk of inequality or constitutional rights in this great teaching moment. So called potheads are treated like Gates every moment of the day somewhere in this great USA! Gates and Obama gave one up on the equality issue for millions of Americans.

Big Pharma and COPS are TOP Control Players.

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IRRELEVANT
Posted by: aahpat on Jul 25, 2009 7:48 AM   
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People will do what people will do.

If drug companies can extract alternatives from the source all the better for proving the contention that the medicinal opportunities do exist with cannabis.

This further sews the seed of doubt about the validity of the entire premise of the war on drugs.

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HOW 'GOOD' DOES A SICK PERSON GET TO FEEL?
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Jul 25, 2009 8:21 AM   
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Apparently there are limits. I think it was 60 Minutes that did a segment on this some years ago. The group that used pot vs. the group that didn't. Clinical observations. Some members of the group that used pot appeared to be 'giggling' I think they said. So it was back to the drawing board. Not an acceptable side effect, I guess. I have a question for the great minds that evaulate side effects. Are they positive that NO other drug out there inadvertently creates a feeling of well being? Not to be confused with dizziness, nausea, ringing in the ears, etc. (typical side effects) which are acceptable. The laws against marijuana for medicinal purposes seem to be rooted in a sick twisted belief that Anything that makes you 'feel' better can't be morally acceptable as legitimate medical treatment. So they cross a line from Medical care to to being the morality police. There's on small item to be considered. "Do no harm". Pot doesn't harm the patients and nobody high on pot harms anyone else. That's another minor side effect. Their lab testing fails to prove that there is any reason to prohibit marijuana use for medicinal purposes. Thanks, Anna

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Isn't one of the therapeutic effects...
Posted by: kroltan on Jul 25, 2009 8:30 AM   
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...getting high?

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Fuggedaboutit! Use the plant that Nature Provided.
Posted by: thornwolf on Jul 25, 2009 8:41 AM   
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It's just mind boggling how stupid -- and greedy -- humans can be.

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EFFETS NON SOUHAITES
Posted by: lulugeez on Jul 25, 2009 9:12 AM   
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Euphoria is listed among the "adverse effects" in Mosby's "Drug Guide for Nurses". They are instructed to beware of "euphoria"--that "feeling of well-being or elation"! What merciless demon is chasing us into a mirthless blind alley?

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Being high is a sin
Posted by: Ahimsa on Jul 25, 2009 9:20 AM   
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The social problem with drug (marihuana) is about being high, not about any potentially destructive properties they may have.
It is not about them distorting reality or perception. Religion does exactly the same, and in a much more pervasive way.
Being high on religion is not very different from taking a substance. The difference is the substance's effects subside after a while. So you are funny but for just a little bit.
I suppose the religious backbone of conservatism (maybe even subconsciously) makes issue on the competition?
Could there be some of that in there?

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Hey Hey Hey
Posted by: FroDuThePhant0m on Jul 25, 2009 9:39 AM   
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Smoke Weed Everyday

Amen

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Didn't even read it....
Posted by: mtatasmith on Jul 25, 2009 9:51 AM   
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How complicated do we have to get?
It is a natural - no chemical added - organic compound - why in the $ucking world do we need these whankers to "fix" it. $$$ for them - NO THANKS!
Give me a break...please

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Medical MJ subsititues by removing the lift
Posted by: Gerald on Jul 25, 2009 9:58 AM   
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This item reminds me of a comment I read 10 or 15 years ago about Great Briton's investigation into legalizing and taxing marijuana; the study, it was reported is I remember it, found that MJ is too easy to "grow your own" for effective taxation.
It appears that Big Pharm may be barking up the same money tree stump.

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Cruel And Unusual Punishment...
Posted by: picket on Jul 25, 2009 10:20 AM   
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I used to visit an elderly friend who had a painful condition due to a fall with resulting FX pelvis. Every time she saw the doctor she hoped for some real pain relief. When Vioxx came out she was so happy BUT it didn't help the pain. Then she got Darvocet which made her take a nap and she was afraid she would fall down and break another bone. She wanted to be awake with some pain relief.

Her generation will suffer the pain and not try an illegal GOD given herb. Too bad she didn't at least feel some euphoria in her last years of life.

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Drug testing proposed for state legislators
Posted by: Sister_Lauren on Jul 25, 2009 11:25 AM   
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Big Pharma has been doing this for decades already.
Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Jul 25, 2009 12:24 PM   
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And it took this long to note this? There are alternative practioners ready to help you with herbs and medical marijuana if you're really interested in hitting Big Pharma in its pocketbooks where it would hurt. In the meantime, some if not all organic stores contain hemp-based foods to help you out. Too bad we have to import from Canada and even Obama refuses to revert his position back to legalizing Cannabis and thanks to picking Biden the drug czar for his VP and his exposed ties to Big Oil, Pharma, Insurance, etc ... !

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...who's in charge here?
Posted by: weightman on Jul 25, 2009 1:01 PM   
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Removing the psychoactive effects of marijuana is, well, just downright UnAmerican.
I think.
Lemme go check........
(dude....are those scones?)

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Marnol vs Pot No Contest
Posted by: lalala on Jul 25, 2009 1:12 PM   
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As pharmaceutical companies have found out time and time again Marijuana only works as a whole. When they isolated thc from cbd, people had wicked anxiety. And it didnt even work that great. Pot as a plant is the way to go... now lets see if they try to change the law so that they can copyright a living thing. My fear is GMO pot. That would be my worst nightmare. But genetically altering it is the only way that these greedy companies can profit.

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The Fun Out of Pot
Posted by: aonghus36 on Jul 25, 2009 1:45 PM   
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They have been trying to take the fun out of pot since the seventies when the government gave the rights to research to the pharmaseutical corporations, who promised "no highs" treatments from cannabis. I THINK it was the Ford Administration put that fix in. I don't believe big pharma still have that monopoly, but I don't really know for sure.

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Tobacco was once psychoactive?
Posted by: Perry Logan on Jul 25, 2009 1:49 PM   
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I can't cite a source, but I once read that tobacco was originally a strongly psychoactive substance. That would certainly explain why it took Europe by storm. Over the decades, this writer said, the corporations have tamed it into the addictive weed it is.

Holes in History

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eat sewage, pharma
Posted by: tazdelaney on Jul 25, 2009 3:29 PM   
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yes, swansong, good points. and whenever pharma or frankenphood synthesizes most anything, not only is it a big ugh, it is usually loaded with serious side-effects, ecological damage and extortionate pricing.

take the birth control pill. questioning how native peoples virtually never overpopulated their turf, unlike this madness in which human population has jumped 700% in 110 years, after being steady at 8% per century or less for millennia... looking into this, pfizer found that in almost any part of the world, there were certain foods or herbs which minimized birth rates – especially anything containing lots of diosgenin, as in yams, dates, etc.

so in 1957, they put out the birth control pill loaded with synthetic diosgenin and estrogen hormones... well, as jacques cousteau pointed out, one of the biggest reasons why the major river mouths into the oceans of the world are dead zones, and massively spreading dead zones at large, is precisely this condensed diosgenin and estrogen. these agents are absorbed by plankton and everything else and the anti-reproductive message spreads from the bottom of the food chain upwards.

while i can't complain too loudly, white man (and i'm a white man), takes something green and safe like sugarcane, pot, opium and coca and turns it into something brown and then a white powder, making a shocking rush, perhaps, but by the time it's white pharma it's potentially deadly.

the average american kid consumes over 18tsp of sugar or HFCS a day and they wonder why they're jumping beans with zero attention spans living in videogames and twitter... so then a bunch of demented spychiatrists and their horrid pharma give the poor kids speed and anti-depressants? (both of which had their origins in german nazi psychiatric dev, like shock 'treatment' and other torture-tech... eeeeek.

pot w/out a high is like non-alcohol beer and dickless ken dolls, or times square new york after ghouliani disney-fied it for 'good, clean family fun... who in their right mind ever brought the family to times square for wholesomeness?

larger... getting high is a BASIC human right betrayed unconstituionally (see the 9th & 10th amendments.) also where's the required amendment to spank our 'pursuit of happiness' like prohibition, the 18th amendment was for alcohol... oh, the organized crime government just ignored that in prohibition II...

one of the oldest digs to ever find tools was in the area now known as syria from about 700,000 years ago. crude bowls and pestles showed that these people were mashing marijuana into something like hashish, grinding up dried opium and psilocybin. shamanic-age peoples knew the score. how do the drugwarriors think we grew these massive dendritic cerebrums, anyway.

obviously, the anti-cerebral government buffoons need to do some really good drugs and stop taking those 'antipsychotics,' which seem to be having an opposite effect.

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what addiction?
Posted by: tazdelaney on Jul 25, 2009 3:51 PM   
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the multibillion dollar 'addiction industry' is just another insane part of the drugwar on humanity. the definition of addiction is of a substance you abjectly NEED TO SURVIVE. desire is not addiction regardless of how spineless the user is who says "I cannot quit." what he's really saying is that he desires it in spite of his behaviour modified protestations to the contrary and does not have the will to stop his hypocrisy either way.

after several months of heavy heroin usage, the opiate has 'replaced' the endorphan network and going cold turkey can mean death. a kicked shin can bring on shock and coma. THAT IS ADDICTION! longterm use of steroids can also kill a person who goes cold turkey. other than that, there almost no truly addictive substances however powerfully desirable. marijuana is less 'addictive' than the first drug i ever got a rush on: reese's peanut butter cups, (the 'gateway drug...)

no body ever died from the NEED of a drink, a cigarette, a joint or a line of coke. the body simply does not need any of these things to survive. yet drugwar disinformation has created this mindless monster that includes a multi-billion dollar 'addiction industry' born of hysteria and evil governments. they don't work, anyway. last i heard 84% of those who do 'rehab' then 'relapse,' i.e., they come to their senses and remember what it is they love in life.

plato wrote, "in youth experience all things. in age stand by that which you found good." many of my generation, like me, tried everything. but unlike me, many of these later 'forget' and hypocritically betray what they once found good... or even divine. some even go repugnocrat , join the anti-sex-league and send their kids to DARE classes as if they'd lobotomized themselves...

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Bio-Piracy: STEALING FROM Global PEOPLES
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Jul 25, 2009 3:53 PM   
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to make profits
its called BIO-PIRACY

fucking wise up, folks.
jebus, THEY PRIVATIZE OXYGEN, WATER & SUNLIGHT IF YOU FUCKING LET THEM...

why should DNA be any different if we don't prevent it?


this medicine & therapy was FREE on the side of the fucking road in ditches until these bastards got their hearts set on MAKING YOU GRATEFUL TO PAY A TAX ON WHAT WOULD BE WILD IN YOUR OWN YARD

& Americans call themselves "independent" & "free"?
**nationalization of resources & preventing the privatized control of these Nature-shared rights is our only collective bargaining tool to prevent permanent distance of ownership of this biosphere & our bodies**
it would be funny if you weren't jamming this shit down everybody else's throats as domestic polices through corporate & militarized foreign polices


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Boggling about it
Posted by: crysun2007 on Jul 25, 2009 8:55 PM   
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Boggling about it is my love:china pictures, china photos

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Obama's Drug Czar said ---
Posted by: aahpat on Jul 26, 2009 10:49 AM   
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"Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit,"

The federal government is not going to pull back on its efforts to curtail marijuana farming operations, Gil Kerlikowske, director of the White House's Office of National Drug Control Policy, said Wednesday in Fresno.

The nation's drug czar, who viewed a foothill marijuana farm on U.S. Forest Service land with state and local officials earlier Wednesday, said the federal government will not support legalizing marijuana.
"Legalization is not in the president's vocabulary, and it's not in mine," he said.

Kerlikowske said he can understand why legislators are talking about taxing marijuana cultivation to help cash-strapped government agencies in California. But the federal government views marijuana as a harmful and addictive drug, he said.

"Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit," Kerlikowske said in downtown Fresno while discussing Operation SOS -- Save Our Sierra -- a multiagency effort to eradicate marijuana in eastern Fresno County.

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Big Pharma is getting its help from Obama and the rest of the CORPORATE "Democrats" alone !!
Posted by: maxpayne on Jul 26, 2009 12:49 PM   
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With that, who needs the fucking Republicans to do their shit? You told us to support that traitor and his drug czar VP and now, GOD IS PUNISHING AMERICA by allowing Big Pharma to keep FUCKING AMERICA TO DEATH !

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Dr. Frankenstein vs God
Posted by: chiefwanadubie on Jul 26, 2009 2:19 PM   
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This is just another case of science believing that they can out do nature, for money, power and control of course!!!
The Bible states that God gave mankind ownership of the seed bearing herbs on earth, to use as we see fit, however our governments have given the patent office permission to dissect creation, granting ownership of the plants active ingredients, to the highest bidder!!!
Marijuana, never went to a vote of the people, and neither has the patent office, because the patent office was established before America won it's independence from England, but before we can truly be independent from them, we need to abolish their pre-existing institutions, including the academy, and the universities!!! These agencies give all rights to the academy, church and state, and are in direct violation of the constitution!!! I would guess that our founding Fathers thought that they could change the spots on these beast, but the Beast devoured us as they have every nation before us!!! Yes we may have the knowledge of good and evil, but only experience teaches wisdom, and the history of these experiences have been smothered in bureaucratic red tape!!!
This battle between science and nature has been going on for millennium, and will not end until God has to step in and save us from ourselves!!!
SCIENCE HAS BROUGHT US A PALIFERIA OF TOXIC CHEMICLES, and manipulations such as the "A-BOMB", super collider, and the Philadelphia experiment, and yet we trust them with the human genome, and with manipulating the "SEEDS"!!! All that I can really add is that it's not nice to fool with mother nature, and that we will all pay the price for allowing the destruction of nature, for allowing everything to be re-created in the image of man!!!
With today's cyber terrorist such as Care2, face book, and Wikipedia, the truth is being forced to stand up or go into oblivion, but as for me I refuse to live on my knees, and I will stand for truth justice, and nature, for these new man made creations are an abomination to the creator!!!

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What a SICK SICK FUCKING SOCIETY this is:
Posted by: jvaljon1 on Jul 26, 2009 3:29 PM   
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I don't know how much money Big PharMa will spend before realizing that THEY CAN'T SEPARATE THE 'HIGH', FROM THE GOOD THAT IT DOES!!!

But these sick, misbegotten Puritanical assholes, WILL KEEP TRYING, won't they.

Well--listen up, jerks--IT WON'T WORK!!!

Just become a civilized country for a change. Stop trying to dick around with our meds "Oooh...it might make the patient FEEL GOOD...BAD! BAD!" and just legalize the stuff.

Imagine having to LEGALIZE A MEDICINE!!!

Here's my suggestion: Instead of the failed-before-it-began "War On Drugs" --let's We The People mount a WAR AGAINST ASSHOLES!

I guarantee you that would work pretty quick. Let all politicians know that if they get in the way of this, they'll be considered assholes, too. They should come around right quick.

Time that We The People, started acting like We The People--instead of scared little mice.

Overturn the Drug Laws. That'll empty so many prisons all by itself, that We The People can turn them into SCHOOLS--the better to educate people on what happens when we VOTE FOR ASSHOLES--and/or, DON'T VOTE AGAINST THEM!!!

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Here's another objection.
Posted by: Longdream on Jul 26, 2009 4:37 PM   
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They can't formulate a drug for any damned thing today that doesn't have worse side effects than the thing you came in with.

Who in the fuck asked them to make a pill in the first place? It certainly wasn't anyone on the street. The real street, that is. Pharmaceutical stocks are some of the most explosive properties on Wall Street, however. And big, oily fat cats who are down a few quarts can't contain their drool over this news.

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This has been big pharmas' game since the FDA existed
Posted by: tsmith144000 on Jul 26, 2009 5:19 PM   
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Uh, guys, this is the same thing they've been doing for DECADES. That is exactly why no natural remedies (that have clinical, scientific proof of effectiveness) have ever been approved for formal medical treatments. THEY CANT MAKE MONEY OFF OF THEM. Plain & simple. Medicines didn't come from a laboratory, they came with the planet. The vast majority of drugs over & behind the counter came from natural origins. Most of big pharmas' R&D goes into synthesizing natural compounds. BTW they've already produced THC pills, they just get you ripped!

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Obvious reasons
Posted by: Defenestrator on Jul 26, 2009 7:52 PM   
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It is true that it is silly and hypocritical that marijuana is illegal. It is true that marijuana has some important medicinal properties. It is true that pharmaceutical companies want to make a synthetic version so they can patent it and make a profit. It is also true that, in some cases, it would be quite important to have some of the effects of cannabinoids without the "high" associated.

For example, people dealing with neuropathic pain may not want to be high all the time. They may have kids or a job or have to drive a lot and the buzz would be a bad thing. Or, another example is the promising research on cannabinoids in PTSD. One of the common side effects of a marijuana high is paranoia. Not in all cases, but frequently enough where it's an issue for people who are hypervigilant and paranoid already.

Another example is some promising research into cannabinoids and traumatic brain injury. In about 10% of cases, a traumatic brain injury (TBI) leads to seizures. If you read the above links, I talked (under another name) a little bit about the function of your endogenous cannabinoids, and you'll see why "exogenous" cannabinoids may help prevent the downward spiral into seizures. But TBI also leads to troubles concentrating and troubles with short-term memory, which marijuana would exacerbate.

Or if someone wants relief from arthritis but they are also dealing with Alzheimer's, dementia, or just aging-related memory problems. They might not want a buzz.

It should be up to each individual, but it is not a 100% bad thing to have non-intoxicating options available.

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Yeah, they're trying to own it and screw it up
Posted by: james108 on Jul 26, 2009 8:11 PM   
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Obama, the other democrats and republicans seem to be helping them mask it all over as usual.
Pot's still a schedule 1 drug, which means it's worse than amphetamines, cocaine and opium extracts. Schedule 1 means it is dangerous, highly addictive and has no possible medical applications.
How can they keep it technically worse than alcohol, cocaine and morphine addiction but then make a drug out of it if it has no benefits?
Silly and sad. Pot and Mushrooms are schedule 1 while cocaine, meth, ritalin and LSD are somehow less dangerous and more beneficial, at least legally.
The fact that no "viable politician" can even talk about the drug scheduling being absurd, at least, politically speaks volumes of the control over things lies and control have.

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Patented paranoia
Posted by: maxsmart on Jul 27, 2009 10:18 AM   
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We have managed to dull the pain of being strapped to the military-industrial-missionary maintenance machine since the beginning of the Cold War via the direct auditory and visual injecdtion of paranoia inducing stimuli.

This has been accomplished with the minimal amount of high but a high level of desensitization! It has benefitted the media financially but the Pharmas have been unable to cash in on it.

If they could patent a pure paranoia pill that would be great and they could combine it with the original paranoia pill known as the birth control pill they would have the superparanoia pill!!!

They could then rape and pillage our own people without having wars at all.

Of course, targeting one's own brain with tiny biomissiles, accelerated nanoparticles, and directed sonar waves is the lazy man's way to use their brains. Rather than find a way to make use of it effectively just look for ways to inactivate it altogether. Let the brainwars begin in brainstorming sessions by storm troopers in think tanks all around Washington DC!!

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This is the fault of those who wish it legal.
Posted by: lamar777 on Jul 27, 2009 1:56 PM   
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Until those who use marijuana have the sack to be honest and admit that its legalization as a recreational drug just like alcohol is the actual goal and stop hiding their desire to get high behind the auspices of medicine or the economy or whatever opportunistic reason comes up legalization will not happen. I smoke and I smoke to get high, so do millions of Americans and until that fact is the focus of legalization efforts they will be blocked over and over again by other alternatives.

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improving on mother nature ? No way !
Posted by: bb54 on Jul 29, 2009 8:21 AM   
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Big Pharma just cant accept the fact that marijuana is marijuana.They cant accept the high associated with it, they cant accept the fact that it is smoked.So they want to reinvent it just to make a fast buck and they want to impose their view on society about how marijuana should be.And the way it should be has to do with money.
Why cant you accept the fact that marijuana is a plant and in its dried form it can be smoked
and that no matter how hard you try it will always stay that way and all your stupid pills and their ill side effects are very poor replicates of the real thing.

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Idiots
Posted by: joebanana on Jul 29, 2009 1:11 PM   
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It's been tried, and failed, the human brain has THC receptors for a reason, these idiots should be trying to get their present shit "safe". Since pot don't kill people like most prescription petro-chemical drugs do, maybe they should waste money in the field of making their crap less deadly, that should be more important than trying to patent a plant.

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IF
Posted by: chiefwanadubie on Jul 29, 2009 8:58 PM   
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If America and the world was actually hell bent on saving us from danger and evil, the first thing that they would have to do is fire the government, take back all of their ill gotten booty and pay back the federal deficit!!!
If we are in fact the UNITED STATES, why is it that the government's goal and purpose is to divide??? In fact the only thing that is still united here is a united government at war against free people, free choice, free market, in fact nothing is free, especially from government interference and control!!!
The constitution states that no right shall ever be taken that was once retained by the people, and up until 1937 the people retained the right to grow hemp and marijuana, and smoke it at will, but of course the constitution was written by hemp farmers, and pot smokers!!!
America is the hemp continent, because with out the hemp plant there would not have been any exploration of the new world, no colonists, and no global empire, because the sails on the great ships were made from hemp!!! Canvas use to mean woven hemp, now it means molded plastic!!! Any one against this life saving plant should be made to walk the plank of treason!!!

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The new flat tax!
Posted by: cinattra on Jul 30, 2009 7:27 AM   
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The legalization of pot would free up the pharma industry to do actual research instead of recreation of what already exists.

"Preaching to the choir". Alcohol is way more dangerous than anything THC has. Prohibition truly defies logic, reason, economics and global warming.

Legalization of weed is the new flat tax!

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blare premire
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I DON'T THINK THAT
Posted by: mcdsh on Aug 2, 2009 8:48 PM   
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YOU DON'T THINK THAT YOU THINK THAT IF CONGRESS PAY FOR THE SYNTHESISATION OF DOPE THEN THEY WILL FALL FOUL OF BEING IGNORANT F UPS, WHICH IS TRUE BUT DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE INTELLIGENCE OF THE POLICE RESOURCE HUMAN, THIS SI WEIRD THAT THE CURRENT CENTRALISATION OF MARIJUANA AS A RECREATION MAY FRONT MORE HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS BY CONGRESS? WHERE IS THE GRASS ROOTS ACTION? IN THIS CONTEXT IT DOES NOT TAKE A UNIFORM TO MAKE A POLICEMAN, WHAT THIS PERSON IS SAYING HERE IS AMERICA CHILL BACK, PLANT SOME SEED CHILL BACK A BIT MORE AND HAVE ABIT OF PATIENCE AND PERHAPS SPEND TOO MUCH ON A SCORE BUT HEY GROW WEED AND SMOKE HERB AND DON'T LOOK SUSPICIOUSLY AT STONED PEOPLE IT'S NOT THEIR LAW THEY WERE OBSERVING

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give all rights
Posted by: kevinpeters on Aug 18, 2009 7:01 PM   
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Obviously Marijuana, never went to a vote of the people, and neither has the patent office, because the patent office was established before America won it's independence from England, but before we can truly be independent from them, we need to abolish their pre-existing institutions, including the academy, and the universities!!! These agencies give all rights to the academy, church and state, and are in direct violation of the constitution!!! I would guess that our founding Fathers thought that they could change the spots on these beast, but the Beast devoured us as they have every nation before us!!! Yes we may have the knowledge of good and evil, but only experience teaches wisdom, and the history of these experiences have been smothered in bureaucratic red tape!!! buy online This battle between science and nature has been going on for millennium, and will not end until God has to step in and save us from ourselves!!!

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keep denying the truth
Posted by: swansong on Jul 25, 2009 1:26 AM   
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that marijuana use is safe and highly effective as a medication, and that hemp is the future of our non-petroleum based materials industry. Big Pharma and Big Ag are trying to synthetically remake everything on Earth so that they can patent and control it. Profit over sensibility?!?

Why spend extra time and energy to make a chemical that mimics what already exists and can be grown and processed cheaply and on a massive scale. The seeds and fiber are superior for use as a nutritional supplement and for high quality paper, fine linen, and even organic plastics.

George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, and Abraham Lincoln are all documented as having regularly smoked marijuana (the first three grew it), and very few are aware of the early US' economic and industrial success that was dependent on the hemp crop.

DON'T DENY HISTORY -- EMBRACE EFFICIENCY AND SUSTAINABILITY -- PROMOTE COMPASSION NOT PROFIT

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Pharma & No Fun
Posted by: 3party on Jul 25, 2009 1:46 AM   
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It is only right and proper that Big Pharma should work on taking the fun out of m.j. because, simply stated, otherwise people might enjoy it. You may have noticed that the Number One criterion for banning things is that someone, somewhere might enjoy them. Because people all over the world were alleged to enjoy marijuana, its banishment inexorably followed. Because prohibition has such a splendid history in this country (e.g. No prohibition, no bootleggers. No bootleggers, no Kennedy fortune, no Kennedys), it is only natural that Congress would make use of it. By ensuring that the marijuana trade is controlled by criminals, Congress may have created the ideal conditions for the emergence of a new Kennedy-like clan.

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Big Pharma's Needs
Posted by: billslm on Jul 25, 2009 2:10 AM   
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So...due to Big Pharma's "need" for exclusive ownership of a weed which, in fact, belongs to us all, cannabis sativa will not become legal anytime in the next century. Well, some of us have been hollering this for awhile now, saying that the main reason that the feds will not legalize pot is that Big Pharma wants it for themselves. If all you guys want to sit around and let the corporations divide up the planet's natural resources for profit, and patent pot so that it really will belong to them, the way all the corn and soy seeds in the world now belong to Monsanto, (and you have to pay Monsanto to plant them,) you go ahead and sit on your fat asses. In the same way, about ten years ago, Merck tried to steal that medical tree from India so that the Indian people who have used the tree for thousands of years would no longer be allowed to use it or even grow it. Fortunately the Indian Government told the Swiss Patent office to go F*ck itself and the issue was dropped.

The rest of us will make sure that something is done to restore the balance in the USA. Some sort of rational law--- rather than laws written by lobbyists and other criminals.

I for one have had enough of the men I voted to send to Congress put their thumbs to their noses and wiggle their fingers in my face.

These corrupt corporations flourished, starting with the great liar, Reagan, and culminated in the Bush/Cheney era, with their corruption and barely legal lobbying which really amount to flat-out blackmail in many cases and bribery otherwise. The time of privatization where any corporation could get any law they wanted and have it written in their language is now past. For instance, how long will Americans put up with the fact that it is a Federal Offence to verbally assault a vegetable in some states. No, I am not playing with you, in some states you may not speak ill of a vegetable. Or they will press charges. That was a neat little law passed by the Monsanto former executives who now rule the FDA.

People, we have got to take our government back and by any means necessary.

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It's been tried
Posted by: joebanana on Jul 25, 2009 2:31 AM   
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But failed, the same goes for hemp oil, the finest machine oil known, it can't be replicated synthetically. First they have to figure out why the human brain has THC receptors, they're there for a reason, and they're the part that receives the THC and processes it, no other purpose. HUH. But I'm sure they can come up with a way for it to kill people, they're good at that. Funny, it's the only drug that is impossible to OD on, yet it's illegal, that's just sick.

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And another thing
Posted by: joebanana on Jul 25, 2009 2:39 AM   
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Why reinvent the wheel, what's the purpose of spending all this money to figure out how to make something that already exists? To make it better? like enriched uranium?

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Chill out
Posted by: dikfitzwell on Jul 25, 2009 3:08 AM   
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OK everyone. I am lighting up at this moment chill out, why the hostility?

Is it just cuz I want to feel good?..................Oh wait, that is why!!!

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Euphoria, a 'side effect'??
Posted by: marsmath on Jul 25, 2009 3:29 AM   
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eu·pho·ri·a (yōō-fôr'ē-a)
n. A feeling of great happiness or well-being.

What the hell is wrong with that? That's the nasty 'side effect' Big Pharma wants to eliminate. God made Cannabis that way for a reason. Don't tamper with perfection.

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the new asprin
Posted by: permanentilt on Jul 25, 2009 4:57 AM   
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"'We could be looking at the aspirin of the 21st century," she says, but it's not going to happen until "pharmaceutical companies can investigate it in the same way that they investigate any other drug.'"

This statement is true, and I'm not waiting for FDA approval to come around to this notion. Who smokes anymore anyways? Vaporization is my preferred method of delivery, no harmful smoking side effects.

They can isolate and derivate all they want, but till it is legal and medically available, my dealer will be able to better provide my medicine than a pharmacy. Euphoria and legal repercussions be damned, it is stupid to deny yourself the healing potential of this herb.

And if they really want to harness the potential of this plant, the government really needs to use that patent to grow the good stuff. Anyone with half a brain knows the healing potential of a "white rhino" is about 1000 times the potential of the Mexican dirt schwagg the government provides to study these new meds.

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Smoking pot is like eating food...
Posted by: sausage on Jul 25, 2009 5:44 AM   
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it's nutritious and delicious.

Think about it would you rather set down to a well prepared and cooked meal or a plateful of pills. The pills will contain all the nutrients and vitamins found in the real food but which would you rather "eat?"

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LOL
Posted by: aadinko on Jul 25, 2009 5:59 AM   
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ROTFL, for 30+ years I have had plenty of fun with Pot without "Big Pharma" LOL

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It's the euphoria, stupid. Thou shalt not get high.
Posted by: grindermonkey on Jul 25, 2009 6:09 AM   
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Euphoria, whether drug induced or not, is anathema to our Judeochristian corporate elite. Keep the poor focused on fear. pain and their next scheduled appointment with the AMA representative in your neighborhood.

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A SIMPLE SOLUTION FOR THIS NONSENSE:
Posted by: AZLBRAX07 on Jul 25, 2009 6:21 AM   
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GROW YOUR OWN...

...just do it quietly!

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PROFITS BEFORE PATIENTS
Posted by: bryangalt on Jul 25, 2009 7:05 AM   
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The fact of the matter is, this country was originally founded by people that were so fervent in their belief that they were better than everyone else, that the Colonies had to be divided up based upon their various versions of faith.

When the time came for the Revolution, the big wheels at the time were getting stoned and came up with the brilliant "separation of powers" concept which led to a revolutionary form of government.

Since then, the leaders of this brand new mode of governance have done everything they can to assist the rich so that they can get richer, with most of this action being concentrated in the period since the end of WW2.

When 'WE THE PEOPLE' are scoffed at by President Obama when he reads a town hall question about legalization of marijuana, or the DEA tosses legalized sales dispensary operators into prison for 20 years for helping cancer patients, then SOMETHING IS TERRIBLY WRONG AND IT MUST BE CORRECTED!

I often marvel at the tremendous efforts humans go through to REPEAT HISTORY, over and over. Have we not learned that drug use can never be regulated, illegal or not? Have we not learned that the only way to stop it would be to create a society so draconian that every person would living "1984" on steroids?

If this is the pinnacle of our alleged intelligence, then extinction will be inevitable--luckily, that is one bit of history that even the dumbest amongst our species won't be repeating.

BRYAN GALT'S BLOG

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pleasure without profit is the biggest American taboo
Posted by: kenhymes on Jul 25, 2009 7:26 AM   
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You can see it in so many forms. Towns that suppress all-ages music venues not designed around alcohol and ticket sales, but around building a fun music scene. The obvious example of pot, which is dangerously pleasurable AND dangerously self-growable. Just look around in your life, what your choices for pleasure are, and what happens anytime a choice that is outside the profit stream is offered... Even sex must be commodified through advice books and porn and therapy. The most basic thing humans do has to be turned into a way of making money, way beyond the oldest profession. We're a sick culture, and we are being made sicker all the time by our acquiescence and cowardice on this.

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It's About $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ AND the RICH in Control....
Posted by: picket on Jul 25, 2009 7:45 AM   
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Upper class people LOVE their Cannabis TOO. Like fine wine and liquor they demand the best grade, dried to perfection. What I mean no wet dirt weed with stems and leaves and no risk for arrest. And the RICH DO get the BEST, if they want the best.

Now for the other 80% of the American Population. It is ALL about CONTROL. In the old days the method of control was if you were the wrong religion you could lose your home or be humiliated and whipped and tortured or butchered in front of those who had escaped, for the moment. That was the CONTROL. Now we are more civilized, hahahahahaha. Now 2.3 million Americans are taken away, 1 out of 38 Americans for the possession of Cannabis only and humiliated in public, defamed by being called "potheads".

Many hard working Americans are without the ability to keep $80.00 MD visits two or three times a year to get a legal RX for anxiety or pain medication or many other human conditions. And if there is any hint that the patient is an addict, even if not so, you know the story. Suffer you loser!!! Can't pay the bill? Get something on the street and suffer the consequences.

Now that Rich Obama and Gates are having a BEER with the COP I see no talk of inequality or constitutional rights in this great teaching moment. So called potheads are treated like Gates every moment of the day somewhere in this great USA! Gates and Obama gave one up on the equality issue for millions of Americans.

Big Pharma and COPS are TOP Control Players.

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IRRELEVANT
Posted by: aahpat on Jul 25, 2009 7:48 AM   
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People will do what people will do.

If drug companies can extract alternatives from the source all the better for proving the contention that the medicinal opportunities do exist with cannabis.

This further sews the seed of doubt about the validity of the entire premise of the war on drugs.

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HOW 'GOOD' DOES A SICK PERSON GET TO FEEL?
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Jul 25, 2009 8:21 AM   
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Apparently there are limits. I think it was 60 Minutes that did a segment on this some years ago. The group that used pot vs. the group that didn't. Clinical observations. Some members of the group that used pot appeared to be 'giggling' I think they said. So it was back to the drawing board. Not an acceptable side effect, I guess. I have a question for the great minds that evaulate side effects. Are they positive that NO other drug out there inadvertently creates a feeling of well being? Not to be confused with dizziness, nausea, ringing in the ears, etc. (typical side effects) which are acceptable. The laws against marijuana for medicinal purposes seem to be rooted in a sick twisted belief that Anything that makes you 'feel' better can't be morally acceptable as legitimate medical treatment. So they cross a line from Medical care to to being the morality police. There's on small item to be considered. "Do no harm". Pot doesn't harm the patients and nobody high on pot harms anyone else. That's another minor side effect. Their lab testing fails to prove that there is any reason to prohibit marijuana use for medicinal purposes. Thanks, Anna

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Isn't one of the therapeutic effects...
Posted by: kroltan on Jul 25, 2009 8:30 AM   
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...getting high?

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Fuggedaboutit! Use the plant that Nature Provided.
Posted by: thornwolf on Jul 25, 2009 8:41 AM   
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It's just mind boggling how stupid -- and greedy -- humans can be.

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EFFETS NON SOUHAITES
Posted by: lulugeez on Jul 25, 2009 9:12 AM   
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Euphoria is listed among the "adverse effects" in Mosby's "Drug Guide for Nurses". They are instructed to beware of "euphoria"--that "feeling of well-being or elation"! What merciless demon is chasing us into a mirthless blind alley?

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Being high is a sin
Posted by: Ahimsa on Jul 25, 2009 9:20 AM   
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The social problem with drug (marihuana) is about being high, not about any potentially destructive properties they may have.
It is not about them distorting reality or perception. Religion does exactly the same, and in a much more pervasive way.
Being high on religion is not very different from taking a substance. The difference is the substance's effects subside after a while. So you are funny but for just a little bit.
I suppose the religious backbone of conservatism (maybe even subconsciously) makes issue on the competition?
Could there be some of that in there?

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Hey Hey Hey
Posted by: FroDuThePhant0m on Jul 25, 2009 9:39 AM   
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Smoke Weed Everyday

Amen

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Didn't even read it....
Posted by: mtatasmith on Jul 25, 2009 9:51 AM   
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How complicated do we have to get?
It is a natural - no chemical added - organic compound - why in the $ucking world do we need these whankers to "fix" it. $$$ for them - NO THANKS!
Give me a break...please

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Medical MJ subsititues by removing the lift
Posted by: Gerald on Jul 25, 2009 9:58 AM   
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This item reminds me of a comment I read 10 or 15 years ago about Great Briton's investigation into legalizing and taxing marijuana; the study, it was reported is I remember it, found that MJ is too easy to "grow your own" for effective taxation.
It appears that Big Pharm may be barking up the same money tree stump.

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Cruel And Unusual Punishment...
Posted by: picket on Jul 25, 2009 10:20 AM   
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I used to visit an elderly friend who had a painful condition due to a fall with resulting FX pelvis. Every time she saw the doctor she hoped for some real pain relief. When Vioxx came out she was so happy BUT it didn't help the pain. Then she got Darvocet which made her take a nap and she was afraid she would fall down and break another bone. She wanted to be awake with some pain relief.

Her generation will suffer the pain and not try an illegal GOD given herb. Too bad she didn't at least feel some euphoria in her last years of life.

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Drug testing proposed for state legislators
Posted by: Sister_Lauren on Jul 25, 2009 11:25 AM   
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Big Pharma has been doing this for decades already.
Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Jul 25, 2009 12:24 PM   
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And it took this long to note this? There are alternative practioners ready to help you with herbs and medical marijuana if you're really interested in hitting Big Pharma in its pocketbooks where it would hurt. In the meantime, some if not all organic stores contain hemp-based foods to help you out. Too bad we have to import from Canada and even Obama refuses to revert his position back to legalizing Cannabis and thanks to picking Biden the drug czar for his VP and his exposed ties to Big Oil, Pharma, Insurance, etc ... !

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...who's in charge here?
Posted by: weightman on Jul 25, 2009 1:01 PM   
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Removing the psychoactive effects of marijuana is, well, just downright UnAmerican.
I think.
Lemme go check........
(dude....are those scones?)

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Marnol vs Pot No Contest
Posted by: lalala on Jul 25, 2009 1:12 PM   
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As pharmaceutical companies have found out time and time again Marijuana only works as a whole. When they isolated thc from cbd, people had wicked anxiety. And it didnt even work that great. Pot as a plant is the way to go... now lets see if they try to change the law so that they can copyright a living thing. My fear is GMO pot. That would be my worst nightmare. But genetically altering it is the only way that these greedy companies can profit.

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The Fun Out of Pot
Posted by: aonghus36 on Jul 25, 2009 1:45 PM   
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They have been trying to take the fun out of pot since the seventies when the government gave the rights to research to the pharmaseutical corporations, who promised "no highs" treatments from cannabis. I THINK it was the Ford Administration put that fix in. I don't believe big pharma still have that monopoly, but I don't really know for sure.

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Tobacco was once psychoactive?
Posted by: Perry Logan on Jul 25, 2009 1:49 PM   
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I can't cite a source, but I once read that tobacco was originally a strongly psychoactive substance. That would certainly explain why it took Europe by storm. Over the decades, this writer said, the corporations have tamed it into the addictive weed it is.

Holes in History

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eat sewage, pharma
Posted by: tazdelaney on Jul 25, 2009 3:29 PM   
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yes, swansong, good points. and whenever pharma or frankenphood synthesizes most anything, not only is it a big ugh, it is usually loaded with serious side-effects, ecological damage and extortionate pricing.

take the birth control pill. questioning how native peoples virtually never overpopulated their turf, unlike this madness in which human population has jumped 700% in 110 years, after being steady at 8% per century or less for millennia... looking into this, pfizer found that in almost any part of the world, there were certain foods or herbs which minimized birth rates – especially anything containing lots of diosgenin, as in yams, dates, etc.

so in 1957, they put out the birth control pill loaded with synthetic diosgenin and estrogen hormones... well, as jacques cousteau pointed out, one of the biggest reasons why the major river mouths into the oceans of the world are dead zones, and massively spreading dead zones at large, is precisely this condensed diosgenin and estrogen. these agents are absorbed by plankton and everything else and the anti-reproductive message spreads from the bottom of the food chain upwards.

while i can't complain too loudly, white man (and i'm a white man), takes something green and safe like sugarcane, pot, opium and coca and turns it into something brown and then a white powder, making a shocking rush, perhaps, but by the time it's white pharma it's potentially deadly.

the average american kid consumes over 18tsp of sugar or HFCS a day and they wonder why they're jumping beans with zero attention spans living in videogames and twitter... so then a bunch of demented spychiatrists and their horrid pharma give the poor kids speed and anti-depressants? (both of which had their origins in german nazi psychiatric dev, like shock 'treatment' and other torture-tech... eeeeek.

pot w/out a high is like non-alcohol beer and dickless ken dolls, or times square new york after ghouliani disney-fied it for 'good, clean family fun... who in their right mind ever brought the family to times square for wholesomeness?

larger... getting high is a BASIC human right betrayed unconstituionally (see the 9th & 10th amendments.) also where's the required amendment to spank our 'pursuit of happiness' like prohibition, the 18th amendment was for alcohol... oh, the organized crime government just ignored that in prohibition II...

one of the oldest digs to ever find tools was in the area now known as syria from about 700,000 years ago. crude bowls and pestles showed that these people were mashing marijuana into something like hashish, grinding up dried opium and psilocybin. shamanic-age peoples knew the score. how do the drugwarriors think we grew these massive dendritic cerebrums, anyway.

obviously, the anti-cerebral government buffoons need to do some really good drugs and stop taking those 'antipsychotics,' which seem to be having an opposite effect.

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what addiction?
Posted by: tazdelaney on Jul 25, 2009 3:51 PM   
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the multibillion dollar 'addiction industry' is just another insane part of the drugwar on humanity. the definition of addiction is of a substance you abjectly NEED TO SURVIVE. desire is not addiction regardless of how spineless the user is who says "I cannot quit." what he's really saying is that he desires it in spite of his behaviour modified protestations to the contrary and does not have the will to stop his hypocrisy either way.

after several months of heavy heroin usage, the opiate has 'replaced' the endorphan network and going cold turkey can mean death. a kicked shin can bring on shock and coma. THAT IS ADDICTION! longterm use of steroids can also kill a person who goes cold turkey. other than that, there almost no truly addictive substances however powerfully desirable. marijuana is less 'addictive' than the first drug i ever got a rush on: reese's peanut butter cups, (the 'gateway drug...)

no body ever died from the NEED of a drink, a cigarette, a joint or a line of coke. the body simply does not need any of these things to survive. yet drugwar disinformation has created this mindless monster that includes a multi-billion dollar 'addiction industry' born of hysteria and evil governments. they don't work, anyway. last i heard 84% of those who do 'rehab' then 'relapse,' i.e., they come to their senses and remember what it is they love in life.

plato wrote, "in youth experience all things. in age stand by that which you found good." many of my generation, like me, tried everything. but unlike me, many of these later 'forget' and hypocritically betray what they once found good... or even divine. some even go repugnocrat , join the anti-sex-league and send their kids to DARE classes as if they'd lobotomized themselves...

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Bio-Piracy: STEALING FROM Global PEOPLES
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Jul 25, 2009 3:53 PM   
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to make profits
its called BIO-PIRACY

fucking wise up, folks.
jebus, THEY PRIVATIZE OXYGEN, WATER & SUNLIGHT IF YOU FUCKING LET THEM...

why should DNA be any different if we don't prevent it?


this medicine & therapy was FREE on the side of the fucking road in ditches until these bastards got their hearts set on MAKING YOU GRATEFUL TO PAY A TAX ON WHAT WOULD BE WILD IN YOUR OWN YARD

& Americans call themselves "independent" & "free"?
**nationalization of resources & preventing the privatized control of these Nature-shared rights is our only collective bargaining tool to prevent permanent distance of ownership of this biosphere & our bodies**
it would be funny if you weren't jamming this shit down everybody else's throats as domestic polices through corporate & militarized foreign polices


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Boggling about it
Posted by: crysun2007 on Jul 25, 2009 8:55 PM   
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Boggling about it is my love:china pictures, china photos

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Obama's Drug Czar said ---
Posted by: aahpat on Jul 26, 2009 10:49 AM   
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"Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit,"

The federal government is not going to pull back on its efforts to curtail marijuana farming operations, Gil Kerlikowske, director of the White House's Office of National Drug Control Policy, said Wednesday in Fresno.

The nation's drug czar, who viewed a foothill marijuana farm on U.S. Forest Service land with state and local officials earlier Wednesday, said the federal government will not support legalizing marijuana.
"Legalization is not in the president's vocabulary, and it's not in mine," he said.

Kerlikowske said he can understand why legislators are talking about taxing marijuana cultivation to help cash-strapped government agencies in California. But the federal government views marijuana as a harmful and addictive drug, he said.

"Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit," Kerlikowske said in downtown Fresno while discussing Operation SOS -- Save Our Sierra -- a multiagency effort to eradicate marijuana in eastern Fresno County.

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Big Pharma is getting its help from Obama and the rest of the CORPORATE "Democrats" alone !!
Posted by: maxpayne on Jul 26, 2009 12:49 PM   
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With that, who needs the fucking Republicans to do their shit? You told us to support that traitor and his drug czar VP and now, GOD IS PUNISHING AMERICA by allowing Big Pharma to keep FUCKING AMERICA TO DEATH !

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Dr. Frankenstein vs God
Posted by: chiefwanadubie on Jul 26, 2009 2:19 PM   
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This is just another case of science believing that they can out do nature, for money, power and control of course!!!
The Bible states that God gave mankind ownership of the seed bearing herbs on earth, to use as we see fit, however our governments have given the patent office permission to dissect creation, granting ownership of the plants active ingredients, to the highest bidder!!!
Marijuana, never went to a vote of the people, and neither has the patent office, because the patent office was established before America won it's independence from England, but before we can truly be independent from them, we need to abolish their pre-existing institutions, including the academy, and the universities!!! These agencies give all rights to the academy, church and state, and are in direct violation of the constitution!!! I would guess that our founding Fathers thought that they could change the spots on these beast, but the Beast devoured us as they have every nation before us!!! Yes we may have the knowledge of good and evil, but only experience teaches wisdom, and the history of these experiences have been smothered in bureaucratic red tape!!!
This battle between science and nature has been going on for millennium, and will not end until God has to step in and save us from ourselves!!!
SCIENCE HAS BROUGHT US A PALIFERIA OF TOXIC CHEMICLES, and manipulations such as the "A-BOMB", super collider, and the Philadelphia experiment, and yet we trust them with the human genome, and with manipulating the "SEEDS"!!! All that I can really add is that it's not nice to fool with mother nature, and that we will all pay the price for allowing the destruction of nature, for allowing everything to be re-created in the image of man!!!
With today's cyber terrorist such as Care2, face book, and Wikipedia, the truth is being forced to stand up or go into oblivion, but as for me I refuse to live on my knees, and I will stand for truth justice, and nature, for these new man made creations are an abomination to the creator!!!

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What a SICK SICK FUCKING SOCIETY this is:
Posted by: jvaljon1 on Jul 26, 2009 3:29 PM   
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I don't know how much money Big PharMa will spend before realizing that THEY CAN'T SEPARATE THE 'HIGH', FROM THE GOOD THAT IT DOES!!!

But these sick, misbegotten Puritanical assholes, WILL KEEP TRYING, won't they.

Well--listen up, jerks--IT WON'T WORK!!!

Just become a civilized country for a change. Stop trying to dick around with our meds "Oooh...it might make the patient FEEL GOOD...BAD! BAD!" and just legalize the stuff.

Imagine having to LEGALIZE A MEDICINE!!!

Here's my suggestion: Instead of the failed-before-it-began "War On Drugs" --let's We The People mount a WAR AGAINST ASSHOLES!

I guarantee you that would work pretty quick. Let all politicians know that if they get in the way of this, they'll be considered assholes, too. They should come around right quick.

Time that We The People, started acting like We The People--instead of scared little mice.

Overturn the Drug Laws. That'll empty so many prisons all by itself, that We The People can turn them into SCHOOLS--the better to educate people on what happens when we VOTE FOR ASSHOLES--and/or, DON'T VOTE AGAINST THEM!!!

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Here's another objection.
Posted by: Longdream on Jul 26, 2009 4:37 PM   
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They can't formulate a drug for any damned thing today that doesn't have worse side effects than the thing you came in with.

Who in the fuck asked them to make a pill in the first place? It certainly wasn't anyone on the street. The real street, that is. Pharmaceutical stocks are some of the most explosive properties on Wall Street, however. And big, oily fat cats who are down a few quarts can't contain their drool over this news.

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This has been big pharmas' game since the FDA existed
Posted by: tsmith144000 on Jul 26, 2009 5:19 PM   
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Uh, guys, this is the same thing they've been doing for DECADES. That is exactly why no natural remedies (that have clinical, scientific proof of effectiveness) have ever been approved for formal medical treatments. THEY CANT MAKE MONEY OFF OF THEM. Plain & simple. Medicines didn't come from a laboratory, they came with the planet. The vast majority of drugs over & behind the counter came from natural origins. Most of big pharmas' R&D goes into synthesizing natural compounds. BTW they've already produced THC pills, they just get you ripped!

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Obvious reasons
Posted by: Defenestrator on Jul 26, 2009 7:52 PM   
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It is true that it is silly and hypocritical that marijuana is illegal. It is true that marijuana has some important medicinal properties. It is true that pharmaceutical companies want to make a synthetic version so they can patent it and make a profit. It is also true that, in some cases, it would be quite important to have some of the effects of cannabinoids without the "high" associated.

For example, people dealing with neuropathic pain may not want to be high all the time. They may have kids or a job or have to drive a lot and the buzz would be a bad thing. Or, another example is the promising research on cannabinoids in PTSD. One of the common side effects of a marijuana high is paranoia. Not in all cases, but frequently enough where it's an issue for people who are hypervigilant and paranoid already.

Another example is some promising research into cannabinoids and traumatic brain injury. In about 10% of cases, a traumatic brain injury (TBI) leads to seizures. If you read the above links, I talked (under another name) a little bit about the function of your endogenous cannabinoids, and you'll see why "exogenous" cannabinoids may help prevent the downward spiral into seizures. But TBI also leads to troubles concentrating and troubles with short-term memory, which marijuana would exacerbate.

Or if someone wants relief from arthritis but they are also dealing with Alzheimer's, dementia, or just aging-related memory problems. They might not want a buzz.

It should be up to each individual, but it is not a 100% bad thing to have non-intoxicating options available.

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Yeah, they're trying to own it and screw it up
Posted by: james108 on Jul 26, 2009 8:11 PM   
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Obama, the other democrats and republicans seem to be helping them mask it all over as usual.
Pot's still a schedule 1 drug, which means it's worse than amphetamines, cocaine and opium extracts. Schedule 1 means it is dangerous, highly addictive and has no possible medical applications.
How can they keep it technically worse than alcohol, cocaine and morphine addiction but then make a drug out of it if it has no benefits?
Silly and sad. Pot and Mushrooms are schedule 1 while cocaine, meth, ritalin and LSD are somehow less dangerous and more beneficial, at least legally.
The fact that no "viable politician" can even talk about the drug scheduling being absurd, at least, politically speaks volumes of the control over things lies and control have.

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Patented paranoia
Posted by: maxsmart on Jul 27, 2009 10:18 AM   
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We have managed to dull the pain of being strapped to the military-industrial-missionary maintenance machine since the beginning of the Cold War via the direct auditory and visual injecdtion of paranoia inducing stimuli.

This has been accomplished with the minimal amount of high but a high level of desensitization! It has benefitted the media financially but the Pharmas have been unable to cash in on it.

If they could patent a pure paranoia pill that would be great and they could combine it with the original paranoia pill known as the birth control pill they would have the superparanoia pill!!!

They could then rape and pillage our own people without having wars at all.

Of course, targeting one's own brain with tiny biomissiles, accelerated nanoparticles, and directed sonar waves is the lazy man's way to use their brains. Rather than find a way to make use of it effectively just look for ways to inactivate it altogether. Let the brainwars begin in brainstorming sessions by storm troopers in think tanks all around Washington DC!!

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This is the fault of those who wish it legal.
Posted by: lamar777 on Jul 27, 2009 1:56 PM   
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Until those who use marijuana have the sack to be honest and admit that its legalization as a recreational drug just like alcohol is the actual goal and stop hiding their desire to get high behind the auspices of medicine or the economy or whatever opportunistic reason comes up legalization will not happen. I smoke and I smoke to get high, so do millions of Americans and until that fact is the focus of legalization efforts they will be blocked over and over again by other alternatives.

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improving on mother nature ? No way !
Posted by: bb54 on Jul 29, 2009 8:21 AM   
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Big Pharma just cant accept the fact that marijuana is marijuana.They cant accept the high associated with it, they cant accept the fact that it is smoked.So they want to reinvent it just to make a fast buck and they want to impose their view on society about how marijuana should be.And the way it should be has to do with money.
Why cant you accept the fact that marijuana is a plant and in its dried form it can be smoked
and that no matter how hard you try it will always stay that way and all your stupid pills and their ill side effects are very poor replicates of the real thing.

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Idiots
Posted by: joebanana on Jul 29, 2009 1:11 PM   
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It's been tried, and failed, the human brain has THC receptors for a reason, these idiots should be trying to get their present shit "safe". Since pot don't kill people like most prescription petro-chemical drugs do, maybe they should waste money in the field of making their crap less deadly, that should be more important than trying to patent a plant.

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IF
Posted by: chiefwanadubie on Jul 29, 2009 8:58 PM   
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If America and the world was actually hell bent on saving us from danger and evil, the first thing that they would have to do is fire the government, take back all of their ill gotten booty and pay back the federal deficit!!!
If we are in fact the UNITED STATES, why is it that the government's goal and purpose is to divide??? In fact the only thing that is still united here is a united government at war against free people, free choice, free market, in fact nothing is free, especially from government interference and control!!!
The constitution states that no right shall ever be taken that was once retained by the people, and up until 1937 the people retained the right to grow hemp and marijuana, and smoke it at will, but of course the constitution was written by hemp farmers, and pot smokers!!!
America is the hemp continent, because with out the hemp plant there would not have been any exploration of the new world, no colonists, and no global empire, because the sails on the great ships were made from hemp!!! Canvas use to mean woven hemp, now it means molded plastic!!! Any one against this life saving plant should be made to walk the plank of treason!!!

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The new flat tax!
Posted by: cinattra on Jul 30, 2009 7:27 AM   
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The legalization of pot would free up the pharma industry to do actual research instead of recreation of what already exists.

"Preaching to the choir". Alcohol is way more dangerous than anything THC has. Prohibition truly defies logic, reason, economics and global warming.

Legalization of weed is the new flat tax!

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blare premire
Posted by: itouch backup on Jul 30, 2009 7:44 PM   
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I DON'T THINK THAT
Posted by: mcdsh on Aug 2, 2009 8:48 PM   
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YOU DON'T THINK THAT YOU THINK THAT IF CONGRESS PAY FOR THE SYNTHESISATION OF DOPE THEN THEY WILL FALL FOUL OF BEING IGNORANT F UPS, WHICH IS TRUE BUT DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE INTELLIGENCE OF THE POLICE RESOURCE HUMAN, THIS SI WEIRD THAT THE CURRENT CENTRALISATION OF MARIJUANA AS A RECREATION MAY FRONT MORE HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS BY CONGRESS? WHERE IS THE GRASS ROOTS ACTION? IN THIS CONTEXT IT DOES NOT TAKE A UNIFORM TO MAKE A POLICEMAN, WHAT THIS PERSON IS SAYING HERE IS AMERICA CHILL BACK, PLANT SOME SEED CHILL BACK A BIT MORE AND HAVE ABIT OF PATIENCE AND PERHAPS SPEND TOO MUCH ON A SCORE BUT HEY GROW WEED AND SMOKE HERB AND DON'T LOOK SUSPICIOUSLY AT STONED PEOPLE IT'S NOT THEIR LAW THEY WERE OBSERVING

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give all rights
Posted by: kevinpeters on Aug 18, 2009 7:01 PM   
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Obviously Marijuana, never went to a vote of the people, and neither has the patent office, because the patent office was established before America won it's independence from England, but before we can truly be independent from them, we need to abolish their pre-existing institutions, including the academy, and the universities!!! These agencies give all rights to the academy, church and state, and are in direct violation of the constitution!!! I would guess that our founding Fathers thought that they could change the spots on these beast, but the Beast devoured us as they have every nation before us!!! Yes we may have the knowledge of good and evil, but only experience teaches wisdom, and the history of these experiences have been smothered in bureaucratic red tape!!! buy online This battle between science and nature has been going on for millennium, and will not end until God has to step in and save us from ourselves!!!

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