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Marijuana Could Be a Gusher of Cash If We Treated It Like a Crop, Not a Crime

By Steven Wishnia, AlterNet. Posted September 11, 2008.


Economists estimate tens of billions for governments if we taxed pot like tobacco and stopped wasting money on the drug war.
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If marijuana were legal but taxed like alcohol and tobacco, how much money could it bring in to cash-strapped state governments?

One 2006 study called cannabis the top cash crop in the nation, worth more than corn and wheat combined. It was the leading crop in 12 states, outstripping grapes in California and tobacco in North Carolina, and one of the top three in 18 others, coming in just behind apples in Washington and cotton in Georgia. So with states facing massive deficits, could reefer revenues help?

The answer is unclear, but it could be lucrative for governments, especially when combined with the savings from ending prohibition. As the U.S. marijuana market is illegal, there are no sales figures. Estimates of its size range from $10.5 billion a year to $113 billion. But three studies done by economists and policy analysts say ganja taxes could bring in anywhere from $2.4 billion to $31.1 billion in revenue, depending on how big the sales really are. About one-third of that would go to the states.

"There's not enough really good data on it, so it's probably best to look at it in ballpark figures," says Jon Gettman, a Virginia policy analyst who has worked with the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws and the Marijuana Policy Project. "But there's a consensus that there's an awful lot of marijuana out there and that it's very valuable."

"The Budgetary Implications of Marijuana Prohibition," a 2005 study by Harvard economics professor Jeffrey A. Miron, makes the most conservative projections of the three studies. It calculates possible pot tax revenues at $2.4 billion. That's assuming that prices would drop about 25 percent under legalization, that pot-related economic activities were taxed at the national average of 30 percent, and that the federal Office of National Drug Control Policy's estimate that the domestic cannabis market is worth $10.5 billion is accurate. If herb were taxed more heavily, as alcohol and cigarettes are, that could bring in as much as $9.5 billion -- although excessive "sin taxes" could cause pot smokers to cut down or grow their own, diminishing revenues.

States with higher rates of marijuana use, such as California and New York, would collect a somewhat higher proportion of taxes than states with lower rates, such as Pennsylvania and Texas. Miron estimates that California would take in $105 million at ordinary levels of taxation.

However, others in the field believe that the government's $10.5 billion figure is absurdly low. Dan Hamburg, a former congressman from Northern California's sinsemilla belt, says the Mendocino County Board of Supervisors estimates bud production in that county alone at between $1 billion and $1.5 billion, worth far more than timber and grapes. California's medical marijuana dispensary owners claim they pay $100 million a year in state sales taxes.

The methods used to estimate the size of the marijuana market involve a great deal of speculation. Determining the supply involves taking the amount of domestic and imported marijuana seized by law enforcement, guessing what percentage of the total amount of homegrown and smuggled weed that represents, and extrapolating from there. Additional variables include how much a single plant can yield -- anywhere from less than an ounce to more than a pound -- and the retail price, which can be loosely sensed from the reader-contributed snippets in High Times magazine's monthly market quotations ("Chicago, Purple Kush, $450/oz") and the Drug Enforcement Administration's STRIDE index, which narcotics agents use to figure out how much to pay for the drugs they try to buy. Demand can be estimated from government and academic household surveys of drug use -- but these are far from specific, especially when you use the limited data on frequency of use to try to figure out how much people spend on pot.

"It's hard to match the supply-and-demand data," says Gettman. "Sometimes you don't know what it is, but you know what it's not." He estimates the value of the U.S. weed market at $113 billion, based on a supply of more than 14 million kilos, an average retail price of about $220 an ounce, and between 25 million and 40 million pot smokers.

That number seems high. It would require 40 million people to spend an average of $55 a week on weed. But Gettman cites United Nations data that has estimated U.S. cannabis cultivation at 10 million to 14 million kilos for the past several years. The federal government has reduced its estimate of domestic production from 10 million kilos in 2002 to between 2.8 million and 6.6 million kilos in 2006, but those figures, he says, are "complete politics." They're based on the assumption that law enforcement eradicates 30 to 50 percent of all the pot plants grown in the United States, and that plants average a pound each.


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Steven Wishnia is a New York-based journalist and musician. The author of Exit 25 Utopia and The Cannabis Companion, he has won two New York City Independent Press Association awards for his coverage of housing issues. He is looking for a job.


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Sin Taxes are Bullshit
Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com on Sep 11, 2008 7:39 AM   
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It's a proven fact that the obese, the nicotine addicted, the alcoholic, all die sooner and thus result in less money being spent on them by the health care industry.

Those who are healthy all their lives live the longest and cost the health care system the most.

Yet no one is talking about putting health taxes on raw fruits and veggies.

Sin Taxes are tyranny of the majority bullshit whereby a majority who doesn't use a substance like alcohol or tobacco taxes it knowing they don't have to pay the tax and therefore get to shoulder less of a overall tax burden.

Don't push the tax revenue angle on marijuana. Push the truth, that those who abuse their own bodies die quicker and cost the system less and therefore the tools they use to abuse themselves shouldn't be subject to taxes above and beyond normal products.

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» RE: Sin Taxes are Bullshit Not! Posted by: ken_sailor
» RE: Sin Taxes are Bullshit Not! Posted by: ken_sailor
» RE: I did not take a stance on marijuana there Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com
» RE: Sin Taxes are Bullshit Posted by: Lauren
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» Read some studies Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com
Let's do the right thing and make money doing it!
Posted by: ken_sailor on Sep 11, 2008 10:37 AM   
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All to often we say "I'd like to do the right thing, but I just can't afford it." - like switching to the green energy source or eliminating poverty.

This is not one of those cases however.

The war on marijuana is a government-created-and-run inquisition and exactly what our bill of rights is supposed to protect us against. All we have to do is stop it, and then things get better.

Getting more money out of the legal commerce in marijuana is just one of the benefits.

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this article
Posted by: undrgrndgirl on Sep 11, 2008 10:48 PM   
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doesn't even MENTION the myriad uses for industrial hemp...so add all that to the potential profits for pot and...well...the pot gets bigger (pun intended).

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» The real hemp potential... Posted by: Knowmad
The Founding Father of this Nation grew Hemp!
Posted by: Bearzerker on Sep 11, 2008 11:58 PM   
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... and if it was good enough for him and many of the founding fathers why isn't it good enough for the rest of us now?

the real argument is reducing the rather large profit motives from the underground economy...

if you legalize it...
you CAN tax the hell outta it as people are paying 300$ an ounce for it now!...

The government can tax this herb for immediate tax relief now while at the same time undermining criminal organizations and black marketeers!

Prohibition this day and age is about who is doing more harm...
1.)drugs...
2.)their suppliers, or
3.)the consumers of these products
who's reasons for consuming them are as varied as the products are themselves!

end prohibition now...
end black market money market now...
end the killings of both victims and victimizers ...NOW!!!

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they will lose money
Posted by: willd4change on Sep 12, 2008 8:36 AM   
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if pot is leagalized the government loses money. Just think for a minute, if a government agency is bringing in the drugs, and the money is being laundered through large companies on the stock market (because they don't have to file any accountability where the money came from if their stocks are traded on the stock exchange LAW) then all that revenue is lost by leagalizing marijauna. I am no conspiracy nut but drugs hve been smuggled into this country for decades. They were brought in in the coffins of ded soldiers during vietnam. Watch a video Google michael c ruppert then watch the truth and lies of 9/11. You decide for yourself.

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» RE: they will lose money Posted by: chinacat
» RE: they will lose money Posted by: Lauren
Fraud
Posted by: John Thomas on Sep 12, 2008 7:32 PM   
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Yes. many will lose their blood money when the great con game of marijuana prohibition ends.

But as was briefly noted, this is about far more than money. 800,000 innocent Americans are branded second-class citizens for life every year with the record of a marijuana arrest.

It's about humanity. It's about the American Inquisition. It's about justice.

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» RE: Fraud Posted by: mystump
Pot Shot
Posted by: Tom Degan on Sep 13, 2008 1:07 AM   
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We have all known in our lifetimes scores of people who have died as the result of too much alcohol and nicotine. Now ask yourself the following question: How many people have you known personally who have died as the result of too much grass? Can's think of any, huh? No neither can I. Truth be told, I'm not aware of it happening in all recorded human history.

It is insane that at this very moment there are people sitting in prison for its usage.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY.
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» RE: Pot Shot Posted by: Lauren
» Hello, Lauren.... Posted by: Tom Degan
» RE: Hello, Lauren.... Posted by: Xynyx
» RE: Pot Shot Posted by: larkztngue
» one person Posted by: bluebirdella
Forget taxes. Legalize pot and let the good times roll.
Posted by: VetAgainst McCain on Sep 13, 2008 1:05 AM   
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The Great American Conundrum: A drug that makes people feel good (marijuana) is outlawed while other drugs that kill (alcohol and nicotine) are legal.

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I now have more time during the week for writing, gardening, swimming, seeing movies, shopping with my wife and visiting our kids -- to name a few pleasurable afternoon activities (but not smoking pot until it's legal).

Then, at midnight before going to bed and after AlterNet posts its newest articles, I'm back on the blog having fun attacking Manchurian Candidate McCain, Appalling Palin and the rightwing GOP.

I even enjoy jousting with LyingHeart -- I mean, LionHeart.

Have a great weekend, everyone!

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» Isn't there a third way??? Posted by: CatDad
Can't Give It Away
Posted by: Sparks56 on Sep 13, 2008 3:25 AM   
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If marijuana were legal you couldn't give it away, let alone tax it. It's just too easy to grow your own. The high cost of marijuana now is BECAUSE it is illegal. (The same goes for all the other illegal drugs.) If anyone could grow marijuana in their garden like tomatoes or green beans who would buy it? True, there is a little more to growing high quality pot than sweet basil, but not much. I've grown them both.
The last thing marijuana growers want is legal pot. It would put them out of business.

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» RE: Can't Give It Away Posted by: larkztngue
» RE: Can't Give It Away Posted by: sunnywater
» RE: Can't Give It Away Posted by: Sparks56
» RE: Can't Give It Away Posted by: ganja_farmer
This will have to be our ticket out of Iraq and dependence on foreign oil big time.
Posted by: maxpayne on Sep 13, 2008 4:45 AM   
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As pointed out by another user, the industrial uses of hemp need to be mentioned especially since the price of gas will shoot back up right after the election is over with a strong possibility of 5/gallon.

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WHy not the other cousin...HEMP?
Posted by: kewpie on Sep 13, 2008 5:37 AM   
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What is ridiculous to me is that this country treats Hemp like a drug, but buys the finished product from other countries.Hemp is used in food,clothing,rope, etc. Wouldn't we save more money by growing our own? I am just saying...

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Too Easy To Grow at Home- No Profits
Posted by: Purple Girl on Sep 13, 2008 5:47 AM   
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This would screw the Pharms as much as Solar Panels for homes would screw Big energy corps!
Pot has the record for one of the Longest lOngitudinal Studies known to man!Waht claims to 'cancer' are riduclous because it can be steeped as a tea or made into a butter- so eating & drinking are ways to negate the 'smoking' negatives. Also Pot is NOT addictive, you may enjoy it so much you refuse to give it up- but you are not pyshically addicted.
What manufactured meds would be knocked off the profit margin sheets if Pot was able to be grown at home as it's substitute?Anti Depressants, anxiety, blood Pressure, pain meds, appetite stimulants, Glaucoma pills & Drops..??
Want to know why Pot is still illegal although it kills far less than Alcohol (auto related)- Too easy to set up shop in your own basement and it will gut the Pharm business Profits,esp those meds to address the side effects of your other meds.

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» RE: Too Easy To Grow at Home- No Profits Posted by: helenahanbasquet
Instead we flush our old growth forests down the crapper
Posted by: larkztngue on Sep 13, 2008 6:14 AM   
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We can thank the Alcohol, cotton, and lumber industry lobbyists for creating the laws we have regarding that Demon Weed Marijuana. If people had a choice and they were on equal terms, more people would opt to light a joint over cracking open a beer at the end of their day-thus affecting sales of booze. Clothing can be made from Industrial Hemp which is not susceptible to pest's like cotton is thus reducing the amounts of pesticides that eventually end up in our environment. Hemp seeds are extremely high in Omega-3 fatty acids and there is even a breakfast cereal out that utilizes them.
The last and most important argument advocating the use of Hemp would be that we can make paper out of it. Our culture wastes so much paper which unfortunately is made out of trees. So thanks to various lobbying groups-like the Lumber industry-we in a manner of speaking are wiping our butts with Old Growth Forests and flushing them down the crapper.

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Industrial Hemp for tax revenue not pot
Posted by: SHRED on Sep 13, 2008 7:12 AM   
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---

Legalize industrial use of the plant and the tax revenue generated from spinoff cottage industries would dwarf any pot revenues.

I don't want to see pot commercials on TV and I am not sure it would work anyway. It doesn't take much to grow it.

Better idea is to legalize industrial hemp while allowing people to grow their own for medicinal/recreational. No commercial sales or advertising but instead people could trade their pot.

If you allow people 3 plants each then the price would drop to weed levels which would make commercial growing pointless anyway.

Think people think.

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Yeah Right
Posted by: GreyFoxThree on Sep 13, 2008 7:30 AM   
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I been saying for 30 years that Pot should be legal, hell it being illegal has never kept me from having a good supply on hand but that would be the LOGICAL thing to do. Logic is something this country has lacked for years and Dictator Bush isnt helping in that arena.

Jiff
Is your ISP watching you?

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DIRTY LAUNDRY.......
Posted by: picket on Sep 13, 2008 8:19 AM   
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Where does all that dirty illegal money go???Who does the money laundry??

Doesn't "dirty money" have a HUGE effect on our economy? The big boxes of cash help out the banking industry, real estate, auto,....on and on...

Low level criminals like your next door neighbor may depend on the summer crop to only pay their property taxes. Is that such a BAD thing? Bad enough to be thrown into a cage?

Apparently the "so-called leaders" of the USA think so !!!

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Cannabis Taxes
Posted by: aonghus36 on Sep 13, 2008 8:35 AM   
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There is no doubt that cannabis could bring mucho revenue to the government. That in no way suggests the national debt would be paid. The repubs would simply spend it on weapons systems, and the dems would spend it on social programs. We would still be in debt as ever. Even worse, since the politians would let the extra revenue go to their heads, and still spend it in excess to what would be there.

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» Don't get me wrong... Posted by: aonghus36
Add To These Numbers The Impact of Industrial Hemp
Posted by: mcl on Sep 13, 2008 8:36 AM   
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Putting aside the recreational and medicinal uses of cannabis, consider the vast number of uses (food, textiles and fibers, oil, 'plastics', etc.,etc.,etc.) of industrial hemp and the $ value being lost is even more astronomical, not to mention the greening of the environment.

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Needed first: A reliable test for DUI marijuana!
Posted by: war_on_tara on Sep 13, 2008 9:12 AM   
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I'm all for legalization, but I see the sticking point as the problem that people who drive while stoned are generally not good at it and are a danger.

I haven't owned a car in many years - live happily in a transit-dense city & region - but realize I'm in a tiny minority and it's obvious to me this is what is holding back the tide of pot legalization. There must be 98% or so of American adults driving nearly every day, so there has to be a way to test for this. As long as there is not, it won't get legalized, it's simple as that.

I never hear anything about this and think there MUST be a way - short of testing hair follicles that prove you smoked half a joint 6 weeks ago! - of testing for very short-term marijuana use.

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» No DUI test needed Posted by: Dankhank
» DUI Marijuana Posted by: Xynyx
Pot
Posted by: Bushmaster on Sep 13, 2008 9:15 AM   
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A lot of money could be saved as well as earned if pot were legal and taxed.

The amount of savings alone from relieving the criminal justice system of this would be tremendous.

The unemployed prison employees and police could earn a living honestly by growing pot.

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This my beef
Posted by: fomented on Sep 13, 2008 9:21 AM   
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This my beef -- we do not make good decisions economically for the whole.

And to deny people the use of this medically is insane,
while we allow drug companies to use us a lab rats for any old shite they want to pump
us with -- then have to sue them for damage long after the fact.

NOW THAT IS REEFER MADNESS

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» RE: This my beef Posted by: amerimet
» RE: This my beef Posted by: Xynyx
make marijuana safe and legal (part 1)
Posted by: vasumurti on Sep 13, 2008 10:59 AM   
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A pamphlet entitled "10 Things Every Parent, Teenager and Teacher Should Know About Marijuana" produced by the Family Council on Drug Awareness tells us marijuana is not physically addictive. The 1980 Costa Rican study, the 1975 Jamaican study and the 1972 Nixon Blue Ribbon Report all concluded that marijuana use does not lead to physical dependency. The FBI reports that 65 to 75 percent of criminal violence is alcohol-related. On the other hand, Federal Bureau of Narcotics director Harry Anslinger testified before Congress in 1948 that marijuana leads to nonviolence and pacifism.

In a message to Congress on August 2, 1977, President Jimmy Carter insisted: "Penalties against possession of a drug should not be more damaging to an individual than the use of the drug itself."

Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) Law Judge Francis L. Young wrote on September 8, 1988: "Nearly all medicines have toxic, potentially lethal effects. But marijuana is not such a substance. There is no record in the extensive medical literature describing a proven, documented cannabis-induced fatality Marijuana, in its natural form, is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man."

After years of suppression by the government, the truth about medical marijuana is finally coming out. Dr. Tod Mikuriya, former director of marijuana research for the entire federal government, wrote in 1996: "I was hired by the government to provide scientific evidence that marijuana was harmful. As I studied the subject, I began to realize that marijuana was once widely used as a safe and effective medicine. But the government had a different agenda, and I had to resign."

Tobacco kills about 430,700 each year. Alcohol and alcohol-related diseases and injuries kill about 110,000 per year. Secondhand tobacco smoke kills about 50,000 every year. Aspirin and other anti-inflammatory drugs kill 7,600 each year. Cocaine kills about 500 yearly alone, and another 2,500 in combination with another drug. Heroin kills about 400 yearly alone, and another 2,500 in combination with another drug. Adverse reactions to prescription drugs total 32,000 per year, while marijuana kills no one.

A November 4, 2002 Time/CNN Poll found that eighty percent of those polled felt marijuana should be legal only for therapeutic purposes. 72 percent felt recreational users should get fines rather than jail time, which is essentially decriminalization. The complete legalization of marijuana was favored only by 34 percent of respondents, but this figure is twice as large as it was in 1986. Marijuana is safer than alcohol and tobacco, and our drug laws should reflect this reality.

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make marijuana safe and legal (part 2)
Posted by: vasumurti on Sep 13, 2008 11:01 AM   
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Throughout history, the legal and moral status of psychoactive drugs has kept changing. During the 17th century, the sale and consumption of tobacco were punished by death in much of Europe, Russia, China and Japan. For centuries, many of the Muslim domains that forbade alcohol sale and consumption simultaneously tolerated and even regulated the sale of opium and cannabis.

Each year, the U.S. government spends more than $30 billion on the drug war and arrests over 1.5 million people on drug-related charges. Over 318,000 people are now behind bars in the U.S. for drug violations, greater than the total number of people incarcerated for all crimes in England, France, Germany, Italy and Spain combined.

Our government is calling for billions of dollars to fight a drug war it can't win. Roughly 75 percent of this money goes to enforcing laws and regulations, but only 15 percent goes to drug education and prevention, and a only a meager 10 percent goes to treatment for addicts.

During the 1950s, long-term prison sentences against drug users choked the courts, strained and disrupted prisons and drove black-market prices even higher. The latest casualty in the drug war has been our civil liberties: mandatory drug testing so we can all be “drug free”. Some of these tests have been struck down by the courts, where the government is the employer. But others have been upheld. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia denounced these drug tests as “an immolation of privacy and human dignity in symbolic opposition to drug use.”

Even putting America under martial law will not solve the nation's drug problem. Iran executes hundreds of drug offenders. Malaysia has hanged dozens of drug users in the past few years. In neither country has the drug problem receded. In fact, in Malaysia, the addiction rate continues to rise. On the other hand, the Dutch government, with its liberal social and political philosophy, tolerates drug use, and the addiction rate is declining.

According to a 2003 Zogby poll, two of every five Americans say “the government should treat marijuana the same way it treats alcohol: It should regulate it, control it, tax it, and only make it illegal for children.” Close to 100 million Americans, including over half of those between the ages of 18 and 50, have tried marijuana at least once. Military and police recruiters often have no alternative but to ignore past marijuana use by job seekers.

In 1996, California voters passed a law to regulate medical marijuana within the state. In 2000, voters in California approved an initiative allowing people who are arrested for simple possession of drugs to go through a rehabilitation program rather than through the court process that would result in prison. Since the program began, most agree it has been very successful. It results in less recidivism and is considered cheaper than imprisonment.

Richard Posner, Chicago's chief judge of the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals and one of the nation's leading legal scholars, says marijuana use should be legalized as a way of reducing crime. Posner, a Reagan administration appointee once described by American Lawyer magazine as “the most brilliant judge in the country,” explained his views on marijuana in The Times Literary Supplement, a British publication, and in later interview:

“It is nonsense that we should be devoting so many law enforcement resources to marijuana," says Posner. "I am skeptical that a society that is so tolerant of alcohol and cigarettes should come down so hard on marijuana use and send people to prison for life without parole.”

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make marijuana safe and legal (part 3)
Posted by: vasumurti on Sep 13, 2008 11:03 AM   
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Richard Posner is the highest-ranking judge to publicly favor the repeal of marijuana laws. Several judges of the federal district court, a level lower than the appeals court, have made similar calls, including Robert Sweet of New York and James Paine of Florida, both Carter Administration appointees.

New York University law professor Burt Neuborne said it's significant that “one of the leading intellectuals in the judicial system recognizes that the laws don't seem to be working well.”

Posner and other federal judges have complained that sentencing guidelines force them to give unjustly severe prison sentences to relatively minor drug offenders. Says Posner: “Prison terms in America have become appallingly long, especially for conduct that, arguably, should not be criminal at all. Only decriminalization is a sure route to a lower crime rate. It is sad that it appears so far below the horizon of political feasibility.”

Rufus King, a Washington, DC lawyer who has served on the President's Commission on Law Enforcement and the Administration of Justice, calls the drug war, “A worthless crusade.” According to King, drug use is a social problem, not a law enforcement problem. He observes: “Cigarette use is declining through changes in cultural values in the population. Like most smokers and alcoholics, most users of illegal drugs poison themselves because they want to be intoxicated. No human force can do them much good until they want help.” King is optimistic that the current anti-drug hysteria will subside, and responsible and reasonable drug law policies will be adopted.

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Dissenting from the recent Supreme Court ruling on the suspension of an Alaskan student for waving a banner -- "BONG HITS 4 Jesus" -- at a high school event, Justice John Paul Stevens takes the long view:

"...the current dominant opinion supporting the war on drugs in general, and our anti-marijuana laws in particular, is reminiscent of the opinion that supported the nationwide ban on alcohol consumption when I was a student. While alcoholic beverages are now regarded as ordinary articles of commerce, their use was then condemned with the same moral fervor that now supports the war on drugs...

"...just as Prohibition in the 1920's and early 1930's was secretly questioned by thousands of otherwise law-abiding patrons of bootleggers and speakeasies, today the actions of literally millions of otherwise law abiding users of marijuana, and of the majority of voters in each of the several states that tolerate medicinal uses of the product, lead me to wonder whether the fear of disapproval by those in the majority is silencing opponents of the war on drugs."

The Washington Post, July 26, 2007, reported: "Stevens compared the current marijuana ban to the abandoned alcohol ban and urged a respectful hearing for those who suggest 'however inarticulately' that the ban is 'futile' and that marijuana should be legalized, taxed and regulated instead of prohibited."

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» RE Vasumurti Posted by: Stoney 12+1
commercial and industrial applications of hemp
Posted by: vasumurti on Sep 13, 2008 11:09 AM   
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Under our drug laws, even the growing of cannabis hemp -- the nonspyschoactive variety of the plant--is outlawed in order to enforce the marijuana laws.

Hemp has many economic uses. It contains the longest fiber in the plant kingdom and is one of the strongest and most durable. It can be used for commercial and industrial applications, including insulation, textiles, clothing, and rope. The fiber and pulp can be used to manufacture nondeteriorating paper using a relatively pollution-free process. The plant can also be used for biomass applications. Its seeds yield oil similar to linseed, which can be used in many commercial and industrial applications. In Eastern Europe and Central Asia, the seeds have been used for human consumption.

"Hemp. It's marijuana's nonspyschoactive sister," writes Ed Rosenthal. "You couldn't get a buzz if you smoked a bale of hemp, but it's still illegal to grow it in the United States." Industrial hemp is legally grown in over thirty countries. For thousands of years, people grew hemp and prospered. It flourishes without pesticides. Thomas Jefferson considered hemp so vital to America that he risked his life to smuggle hemp seeds out of France. George Washington grew hemp and instructed his caretaker at Mount Vernon: "Make the most of the hemp seed. Sow it everywhere."

Industrial hemp was first grown in Kentucky 250 years ago. It is currently grown in other countries across the globe, including France, England, Canada, Australia, China, Hungary and the Ukraine. Industrial hemp has virtually no THC, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana. It cannot be used as a drug. None of the countries that allow industrial hemp production have experienced any drug problems relating to the crop. Using modern processing techniques, hemp can be used in place of petrochemicals. Instead of synthetic plastics made from oil, we can use natural fiber and processed bioplastic derivatives. Plastics and polyester rely on foreign oil, while cotton consumes enormous amounts of water, fertilizer, herbicides, and pesticides.

Industrial hemp is very clean, easy to grow and is one of the most environmentally sound sources of industrial fiber in the world. Environmentally friendly detergents, plastics, paints, varnishes, cosmetics, and textiles are already being made from it in Europe. Industrial hemp can meet our fiber needs while also revitalizing our struggling rural economies.

Hemp is already being used in place of trees for pressboard, particleboard, and core concrete construction molds. Paper made from hemp is acid-free, stronger and lasts far longer than paper made from trees. Hemp fabrics are far stronger and more resistant to mold than any other natural fiber. Builders in France and Germany use hemp for construction material, replacing drywall and plywood. Hemp can be used to manufacture plastic plumbing pipe, replacing such toxic materials as polyvinyl chloride (PVC). Hemp fiber is already being used in place of glass fiber in surfboards and snowboards. Hemp could also provide the resin itself.

For ideological reasons, the federal government refuses to allow farmers to grow hemp despite the fact that industrial hemp is currently grown legally worldwide. The current Bush administration took anti-hemp policy to a new extreme, attempting unsuccessfully to ban the import of hemp foods and cosmetics. Erwin "Bud" Sholts, director of the Wisconsin Agriculture Department's marketing division, said hemp "is the most value-added, prolific fiber crop man can grow." Sholts acknowledged that hemp is an emotional issue, but points out that "other nations with drug laws as tough or tougher than ours have overcome this hurdle." The U.S. is the only major industrialized nation that prohibits the growing of industrial hemp; anti-drug hysteria should not blind the public to the commercial and industrial applications of hemp.

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» thank you! Posted by: bluebirdella
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Simply Put
Posted by: John Thomas on Sep 13, 2008 11:34 AM   
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Here is why we have not been able to end the fraud of marijuana prohibition:

Police, prosecutors and politicians build their careers and empires on it. -- Industries like alcohol and pharmaceuticals don't want the competition. -- Other interests like the drug treatment/testing industry and the prison industries depend on it for their life's blood. Finally, the government/corporate junta uses marijuana prohibition as a means of controlling minorities and the poor, and as a pretext to invade other countries - often destroying governments that represent the people to install dictatorships that will give U.S. companies free reign.

On the other side?

30 to 50 million innocent marijuana consumers that are coerced into silence because they can suffer the loss of jobs, the right to drive, their freedom, even their CHILDREN - if they speak up and their consumption becomes public.

Something's got to give.

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What makes the most sense
Posted by: bluebirdella on Sep 13, 2008 12:22 PM   
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Legalize pot and stop arresting people for it? Yes. It can't be worse for anyone's health than alcohol or cigarettes - and apparently it's helpful for people who have cancer. So what's the big deal? I don't understand pot paranoia.

But you couldn't make big tax money on it because if it were legal, people would grow in it in their back yards.

What makes more sense to me is legalizing hemp (legalizing both, really) and making money on the sale of hemp products.

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Marijuana profits are laundered into Wall Street
Posted by: MattSavinar on Sep 13, 2008 12:24 PM   
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This article, like EVERY mj decriminalization article I've ever read ignores the REAL problem. Narcotics are the world's third biggest industry behind only energy and weapons. We're talking TRILLIONS of dollars here. That money gets laundered into a variety of places, the lion's share being into Wall Street. In fact, the U.S. financial system - including many of the Big BAnks that people reading this to their banking it - would collapse overnight if the stuff was legalized. (REason being the profit margins are always WAY higher once something is illegal even though the production methods don't change too much.)

Our financial system is, at this point, probably as dependent on laundered money from the drug trade as the transportation system is on oil imports. You could no more decriminalize marijuana in short order than you could stop accepting oil imports and expect the country in its current form to function for more than 2-7 days.

Also of note: Once it's laundered into Wall Street, a further portion is used to donate money to whichever politician(s) are most likely to make decisions favorable to the drug cartels and banks that launder their money.

I suspect, but cannot prove, that alot of the money the Big Banks used to invest in construction the last 5 years was money coming in from the heroin trade in AFghanistan that needed to be laundered. Heroin is not the topic of this article but the tie between the drug war and the housing boom rarely goes noticed by these sort of articles.

Neither does the connection between the drug war and climate change. Most of the money that's getting laundered into suburban construction projects the last 5 years are out in the exurbs where people have to drive further and used more energy to heat the homes.

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Let's advance the point...
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Sep 13, 2008 12:43 PM   
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Hemp,marijuana's true name,does a hell of a lot more than work as a medicinal preperation. Hemp makes fine lace garments,work clothes,and,is the #3 protien supplier after soy and beef.
Hemp makes paper that can last 100 years or more. Hemp makes oils of all kinds from skin oils to lamp oil to #2 diesel fuel. Hemp charcoal is 80% cleaner burning than fossil coal. Hemp flour makes as good a bread as wheat,rye,soy.Hemp also,in seed,contains all the essiental amino acids that rebuild the human immune system.
There's a lot of people that think these claims are making hemp seem like a 'miracle plant'. Far from it. We're just feeding you the truth as it's known throughout history. Why should we lie? That only makes us the same as those whom we elect. Their system of control is based upon lies,like Iraq.
If we taxed just the smoking of it alone there would be enough money collected to pay for healthcare for everyone,if the politicians don't steal it. Additional tax monies could be earned by the commerical uses of this plant.
Factor in the fact that hemp can be grown on the same plot of land, without anything more than manure fertilizer,for 25 years means controlled environmental impact. Add to that the fact that when you grow hemp for fibers,the cellulose from the plant is left on the fields and that refertilizes the land without extra chemicals. Chemicals that would otherwise 'run-off' into local water sheds.Which means,hemp farming can have a greatly positive impact on the environment.
Using hemp for paper means 75% less chemicals going into our waterways from plant discharges and as a charcoal 80% less stack emmissions.
If we're serious about 'saving the environment' we'd be idiots to ignore these facts. But it's the greedy in the oil and chemical industries that keep this plant illegal because it cuts into their long established markets. Markets that used to be the domain of Hemp,until the Natural Resources Conservation Act of 1933. That's when hemp and all the other farm based products that could be replaced by products made from petrochemicals became 'off market'.
'Marijuana' is a lie fed to our Great Grandparents to help pass laws designed to wage war on the poor. If the papers and newsreels of the day were filled with 'Crazy Mexicans stoned on Hemp' stories our Great grandparents would have laughed their asses off at the stupidity of the reporting.
To show you were a 'Liberteen' in the 1770's,you had a copy of the 'Declaration of Independance' hid somewhere on your person or property. That copy was written on Hemp paper
and it would look as good today as it did when it was illegally printed.

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