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DrugReporter

The Top Ten Reasons Marijuana Should Be Legal

High Times. Posted September 1, 2007.


Prohibition has failed to control the use and domestic production of marijuana -- it's time everyone faced this and the rest of the compelling arguments for legalizing it.
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Editor's note: There are millions of regular pot smokers in America and millions more infrequent smokers. Smoking pot clearly has far fewer dangerous and hazardous effects on society than legal drugs such as alcohol. Here is High Times's top 10 reasons to marijuana should be legal, part of its 420 Campaign legalization strategy.

10. Prohibition has failed to control the use and domestic production of marijuana. The government has tried to use criminal penalties to prevent marijuana use for over 75 years and yet: marijuana is now used by over 25 million people annually, cannabis is currently the largest cash crop in the United States, and marijuana is grown all over the planet. Claims that marijuana prohibition is a successful policy are ludicrous and unsupported by the facts, and the idea that marijuana will soon be eliminated from America and the rest of the world is a ridiculous fantasy.

9. Arrests for marijuana possession disproportionately affect blacks and Hispanics and reinforce the perception that law enforcement is biased and prejudiced against minorities. African-Americans account for approximately 13% of the population of the United States and about 13.5% of annual marijuana users, however, blacks also account for 26% of all marijuana arrests. Recent studies have demonstrated that blacks and Hispanics account for the majority of marijuana possession arrests in New York City, primarily for smoking marijuana in public view. Law enforcement has failed to demonstrate that marijuana laws can be enforced fairly without regard to race; far too often minorities are arrested for marijuana use while white/non-Hispanic Americans face a much lower risk of arrest.

8. A regulated, legal market in marijuana would reduce marijuana sales and use among teenagers, as well as reduce their exposure to other drugs in the illegal market. The illegality of marijuana makes it more valuable than if it were legal, providing opportunities for teenagers to make easy money selling it to their friends. If the excessive profits for marijuana sales were ended through legalization there would be less incentive for teens to sell it to one another. Teenage use of alcohol and tobacco remain serious public health problems even though those drugs are legal for adults, however, the availability of alcohol and tobacco is not made even more widespread by providing kids with economic incentives to sell either one to their friends and peers.

7. Legalized marijuana would reduce the flow of money from the American economy to international criminal gangs. Marijuana's illegality makes foreign cultivation and smuggling to the United States extremely profitable, sending billions of dollars overseas in an underground economy while diverting funds from productive economic development.

6. Marijuana's legalization would simplify the development of hemp as a valuable and diverse agricultural crop in the United States, including its development as a new bio-fuel to reduce carbon emissions. Canada and European countries have managed to support legal hemp cultivation without legalizing marijuana, but in the United States opposition to legal marijuana remains the biggest obstacle to development of industrial hemp as a valuable agricultural commodity. As US energy policy continues to embrace and promote the development of bio-fuels as an alternative to oil dependency and a way to reduce carbon emissions, it is all the more important to develop industrial hemp as a bio-fuel source - especially since use of hemp stalks as a fuel source will not increase demand and prices for food, such as corn. Legalization of marijuana will greatly simplify the regulatory burden on prospective hemp cultivation in the United States.

5. Prohibition is based on lies and disinformation. Justification of marijuana's illegality increasingly requires distortions and selective uses of the scientific record, causing harm to the credibility of teachers, law enforcement officials, and scientists throughout the country. The dangers of marijuana use have been exaggerated for almost a century and the modern scientific record does not support the reefer madness predictions of the past and present. Many claims of marijuana's danger are based on old 20th century prejudices that originated in a time when science was uncertain how marijuana produced its characteristic effects. Since the cannabinoid receptor system was discovered in the late 1980s these hysterical concerns about marijuana's dangerousness have not been confirmed with modern research. Everyone agrees that marijuana, or any other drug use such as alcohol or tobacco use, is not for children. Nonetheless, adults have demonstrated over the last several decades that marijuana can be used moderately without harmful impacts to the individual or society.


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Just a little...
Posted by: chomsky on Sep 1, 2007 1:20 AM   
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If you believe Mike Ruppert (ex DEA officer) in "THE TRUTH & LIES OF 9/11"
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8797525979024486145
a huge part of the US economy is supported by the traffic of drugs... Declaring something illegal, makes it rare, which makes it expensive, which makes it very profitable...

As an end note, since the poppy production in Afghanistan is doing great (thanks to NATO's invasion):
http://www.spie REMOVEME gel.de/international/world/0,1518,473933,00.html

PS: The 60 characters word limit is not very practical for URLs...

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Have A Marijuana
Posted by: Tom Degan on Sep 1, 2007 2:22 AM   
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I usually read every AlterNet piece before I post a comment. No need to this time (although I will, eventually). The fact is: I cannot believe that we're still having this argument in 2007! We all have known at least 100 people in our lives who have died as the result of too much alcohol or nicotine cunsumption. Tell you what: I'll give anyone here $1000 if they can come up with the name of even one person who has died as the result of too much pot. Not only do I not know of such a case, I'm not aware of it happening in all recorded human history! What's wrong with these people?

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
"The Rant" by Tom Degan

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Another Reason to Support Kucinich
Posted by: EKSwitaj on Sep 1, 2007 4:01 AM   
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Dennis Kucinich supports the decriminalization of marijuana. For more information, see http://www2.kucinich.us/issues/marijuana_decrim.php.

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Pot used to be legal...
Posted by: motamanx on Sep 1, 2007 4:09 AM   
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...until Nylon rope was invented.

Know your history.
Re-legalize.

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But ...
Posted by: John Annis on Sep 1, 2007 4:30 AM   
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For starters I fully support the decriminalisation of all drugs; prohibition doesn't work, and can never work. It's just a way of financing police and other USG repression.

Having said that, marijuana these days is a very different beast from what it was 30 years ago. Selective breeding and the extensive use of hydroponics have produced skunk, which is many times stronger than old-fashioned Mary J - in fact some strains are stronger than cocaine.

It's been demonstrated that skunk usage can lead easily and quickly to extreme psychotic reactions, and if you're going to attempt to write an even-handed article on marijuana usage you have to include comment on the downside of these genetically enhanced versions.

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The ONLY Safe High
Posted by: thornwolf on Sep 1, 2007 5:10 AM   
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Marijuana should be legal for many reasons, but chief among them is the fact that marijuana is the one substance for which there is no consumable dose that will make one unconscious, convulsive, comatose or dead. No other drug -- over-the-counter, prescription or otherwise -- can make that claim.

Marijuana is the only safe drug. It alone will not make one miss work, have a hangover, deplete a bank account, desert a family, or suffer any of the ill effects of other substances.

Constitutionally, the federal government has no delegated power to regulate the cultivation and use of marijuana wholly within the borders of a state. A state could legally do that if the voters didn't object, but the federal government truly exceeds its legal reach by doing so. Eventually, it will be brought to task for this and made to desist. Marbury v Madison: a law repugnant to the Constitution is no law at all.

The Commerce Clause delegates to the federal government the power to regulate interstate commerce (economic activity between different states), not intrastate commerce (economic activity within the borders of any one state). The Controlled Substances Act and similar federal drug laws take their authority from the Commerce Clause -- the government acknowledges that. This is where the policy battle must be waged.

To that end, it is irrelevant whether marijuana has any medical or other value beyond the value ascribed to it by the people who use it for their own reasons. It is the Commerce Clause authority rug that must be pulled out from under federal marijuana prohibition.

Even so, there is value in educating the populace as to the medical and other benefits of marijuana as public opinion will have an important role to play in legalization.

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another environmental reason to decriminalize marijuana is that
Posted by: Suzon on Sep 1, 2007 5:18 AM   
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it is often grown inside houses or other buildings using massive amounts of electricity (an excessive light bill is often the giveaway).

Of course the (wealthy) brewers and distillers wouldn't want us to be able to grow our own self-medication in natural sunlight, would they?

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LeaveUsAlone
Posted by: LeaveMeAlone on Sep 1, 2007 6:04 AM   
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There is no chance for leglization as long as the Religious Right holds power in the U.S. The drug war is a religious war, the last Inquistion. For the fundamentalists, drugs are not chemicals that simply intoxicate people: They are demons that enslave the soul. The fundmentalists distinguish the illegal drugs from alcohol and tobacco by saying that the illegal drugs--in particular marijuana--are mind altering substances. Alcohol and tobacco may make you a stumbling, coughing wreck of a human being, but they do not affect your mind, which is to say your soul. And for them, the fundamentalists, saving the soul is far more important than saving the lives of the half million or so who die every year from alcohol and tobacco. And the drug war gives the fundamentalists the pleasure in life they love the most--inflicting pain and punishment upon those that enjoy the sensual pleasures. Nothing irks the fundamentalists more than the knowledge that someone somewhere is enjoying the pleasures of the flesh--among them the pleasures of a drug high. And combine that with the possiblity that a hidden sinner may be enjoying a drug high while committing a sexual sin, and it's simply more than they can stand--PUNISHEMENT MUST BE IMPOSED! GOD DEMANDS NOTHING LESS! Over the centuries the fundamentalists have had taken from them the fun of burning witches and forcing loose women to wear a scarlett "A" on their dresses. Do not expect them to give up without a fight their pleasure in imprisoning for decades those that want to get high on something other than Jesus. And don't forget, if marijuana is legalized, white virgins will be drugged and seduced by black jazz musicians. That was the original excuse back in the thirties.

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Here's my list.....
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Sep 1, 2007 6:13 AM   
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May I humbly submit for your consideration my top ten reasons hemp should be legal.
1. George Bush
2. Dick Cheney
3. Global War on Humanity
4. Corrupt Officals
5. Unhealthful Environment
6.Can't overdose on it
7.Creates Peace
8.Quells violent tempers
9.Safer than alchohol
10. The most theraputically active substance known to man
We allow people to make their own wiskey for personal use.The very substance that's caused more premature deaths,rapes,murders,fights and unwanted pregnancies.
The only bad side effect from letting those who smoke to grow their own.....Sudden Outbreak of Peace.
Draft Jeffrey7 for Prez

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» RE: Here's my list..... Posted by: Lajaw
You don't know what you're talking about
Posted by: rancespergl on Sep 1, 2007 6:40 AM   
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It's clear this person doesn't know the subject at hand. The "tell" that he's getting his information second-hand is when he states that modern strains of marijuana can be "...stronger than cocaine."

It is not like cocaine so it can't be stronger or weaker than cocaine. It's not the same drug, nor in the same pharmacological family. It has different effects than cocaine and is often used in a different manner for this reason. That the government has classified it with narcotics goes not make it a narcotic nor are it's effects truly narcotic (soporific?).

On a recent television news report I saw a prosecutor attempt to discredit a witness who was a pot smoker by questioning what she "saw" on the night in question. "You smoked some pot" he said (I paraphrase) "Don't you see things when you're on pot?"

No one "sees things" when they're stoned on pot. Though the drug does make cheeseburgers look real good.

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Shouldn't High Times know better than to call it "marijuana"?
Posted by: amphead on Sep 1, 2007 6:41 AM   
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Regarding point number 9, American is the only country (well, besides Mexico) that calls cannabis, marijuana. That comes from the early 20th century around the time of "Reefer Madness" to connect the "dangers" of cannabis to Mexican immigrants and stir up us white folks against it. The same way heroin was used to criminalize African-Americans. It's a racist term and should not be used, especially by those seeking to legitimize weed.

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» Call it Kaneh bosm!!! Posted by: garry minor
Never gonna happen
Posted by: awj on Sep 1, 2007 7:33 AM   
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There are just two reasons why cannabis will never be legal, money and power. Many industries are threatened by hemp. The paper industry, for example, makes a lot of money turning old growth forests into paper. If hemp were legal the paper industry would have to replace a good chunk of infrastructure or face competition from much cheaper hemp paper. The private prison industry makes great gobs of money by keeping large numbers of people in prison. These industries and more give large bribes (perfectly legally) to politicians in order to preserve their profits.

On the other hand many organizations benefit directly from our current drug laws. Drug laws are very good for the police since they make it possible to arrest and jail anyone at any time (at least as long as the victim isn't rich or well connected). Drug laws and disenfranchisement are perfect for suppressing the black vote, ensuring that at least Republicans will always support them. And of course politicians always want to look tough, and throwing lots of people in jail does that.

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Economics will win over policy madness
Posted by: ggmurray on Sep 1, 2007 7:39 AM   
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American policy regarding the cannabis plant will fall of its own economic weight. There are too many good reasons to welcome this useful plant into the mainstream of agricultural production.

In the end, people will grow their own pot, buy it in the health food store and grocery, weave it into natural fiber garments, and be relieved that the climate of fear in America has been lessened.

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working against yourselves
Posted by: ottomaddog on Sep 1, 2007 8:38 AM   
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I'm honestly not trying to be an ass, I'm not attacking anyone individually, I'm trying to be brutally honest.
The very best thing 90% of marijuana smokers could do for the cause is shut the hell up.
Find the literate, articulate few and let them do our speaking for us.
Every "dude", "man", "like", every rebel yell, is a step backwards.
Look up a few real facts, memorize them, then look up a few more. try to tie things together, LEARN, a stupid soldier gets shot down, a smart soldier survives and triumphs.
If you have something intelligent to say, say it, if you don't, then shut up.

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An issue that will not go away
Posted by: ld7440 on Sep 1, 2007 8:54 AM   
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Great article. We need to continue to put pressure on our Congressmen to respond to this issue. We all know the "War on drugs" is a joke, that Big Pharma wants to be the only game in town, that prescription drugs are far more deadly than cannabis, that they're in bed with the FDA. Consumers need to maintain their freedom to use herbs if they want to, including cannabis. (The last time I looked, poppy seeds weren't illegal). We need to go back to growing hemp, like the rest of the country. The benefits of this amazing plant need to be tapped, before the U.S. totally contaminates our food supply. (http://www.organic-nature-news.com/facts-about-hemp.html)

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It's our fault, home of the brave ,my ass
Posted by: linecrosser on Sep 1, 2007 8:55 AM   
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marijuana is still illegal, because we the smokers haven't pushed the issue hard enough. Being vocal to each other is singing to the choir, We don't bring it up outside of our own circles so none smokers don't care. Just as were afraid to take the subject to the street,to church, to work, to other social circles, so is the politician afraid to bring it to debate or write a bill on it. It is up to us to let them know that it would not be political suicide to decriminalize it. home of the brave,yeah right.

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#1-Because God say's so! Kaneh bosm!!!
Posted by: garry minor on Sep 1, 2007 9:24 AM   
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The #1 reason to legalize cannabis is because God say's so, and #2, it will save our freegin planet. Not only is cannabis the most useful plant on the planet and can supply us with over 25,000 ecologically friendly products, from paper, plastics, paints, varnishes, textiles, pressed board, foods, fuels, and many medicines, but it is also a must for true spirituality. Whether called Kaneh bosm, Cannabis, Haoma, Hemp, Taima, Ma, or another, it has been the key to human spiritual development.
In 1936 a Polish Anthropologist named Sula Benet discovered that in the original Hebrew of the Old Testament the word "kaneh bosm" was translated as calamus or fragrant cane by the Greeks when they first rendered the Books in the 3rd century BC and propagated as such in all later translations. Benet contended through her research and etymological comparison the proper translation is cannabis. In 1980 the Hebrew Institute of Jerusalem confirmed her claim that "kaneh bosm" is indeed cannabis.
In Exodus 30:23 God instructs Moses to use 250 shekels of "kaneh bosm" in the oil to anoint all Kings, Priests, and Prophets, for all generations, including Jesus and today. The title Christ means literally covered in oil, "Anointed". Kaneh is also listed as an incense tree in Song of Songs 4:14. The mistake was repeated in Isaiah 43:24, Jeremiah 6:20, and Ezekiel 27:19. There are 141 references to anointing and 145 for burning incense in the standard Bible.
The Word "kaneh bosm" and the discovery of the Gnostic Gospels at Nag Hammadi Egypt in 1945 after being buried in the sand for 1600 years reveal that the True Christians of Jesus day were in fact "Anointed Ones". Jesus came to make Anointed Priests of all men. In the Bible, 1 John 2:18-29, John tells of of many antichrist and mentions several times the Anointing that teaches the Truth, and that the Anointing is real and not counterfeit. John the Baptist claimed that while he Baptized with water, Jesus would baptize with fire and the Holy Spirit, (1 Samuel 16:13). The Gnostic Gospel of Philip say's; "there is water in water, there is fire in Chrism." And again it say's; "The "Chrism" is superior to Baptism, for it is from the word "Chrism" that we have been called "Christians", certainly not because of the word Baptism. And it is because of the "Chrism" that the "Christ" has his name. For the Father anointed the Son, and the Son anointed the Apostles, and the Apostles anointed us. He who has been anointed possesses everything. He possesses the Resurrection, the Light, the Cross, the Holy Spirit. The Father gave him this in the Bridal chamber. He merely accepted the gift. The Father was in the Son and the Son in the Father. This is the Kingdom of Heaven."
The word antichrist that John warns us of means literally, "opposed to or against anointed", and anointed is "to pour oil upon as in a relgious ceremony". Therefore having done considerable research on the subject it seems that the antichrist John warns of was indeed successful at watering down the Truth of Christianity, and that is why the world is in the sad shape it is today. If the Truth of Christ has been hidden then we are actually living according to the will of antichrist, the counterfeit spirit. It all looks really good, but in truth it isn't really. We have no way to compare. While this may seem crazy, I beg anyone to put it to the test. I have yet to find a man that can Biblically deny it. Not a Pastor, Policeman, Judge, or Doctor. They can say that they don't believe it, but the Book and our Constitution give us the Right to Worship the God of our Understanding, and the God of Truth loves Kaneh bosm!
We can all continue to play games with Corporate America at the cost to our freedoms and health, or those with eyes to see, ears to hear, and hearts that understand can stand up and say "Game Over", God has spoken.
Peace!!!

Matthew 13:11-23, 1 John 2:18-29, Psalm 133

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Legalize it all!
Posted by: NumberSix on Sep 1, 2007 10:03 AM   
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Historical quiz time: What two things came out of prohibition?

The mafia and NASCAR. The mafia, as they made plenty of money on illegal booze. NASCAR? Yes, the boys who "ran shine" did, later on, get together to race and compete. Imagine that, eh?

What happened when prohibition was lifted? Shiners went out of business. Can't compete against Seagram, Annheiser-Busch, Jack Daniels, now can you? The mafia moved on to other areas of illegality. NASCAR got sponsors.

Granted, alcohol addiction is a very bad disease, and why we don't recognize such as a disease baffles me. These days, we have loads of other addictions: Crack, coke, grass, meth, whatever. Oh, and these are all illegal, of course.

"Gee, how do we stop all this?"

One, you eliminate the profitability of it. Let's face hard, cold facts: Nobody makes meth because they like the product, and how can you? You ever deal with anhydrous ammonia? I'd prefer smoking around gas tanks. Yet, some take such a risk, and why?

I call it the "duh" factor: You get some help, a few hundred in chemicals, and eventually, you turn all that into $100,000 return. Gee, what stocks pay like that? What job pays like that?

See, that's why drugs are so neat to so many: Sure, there's a high risk involved, but the lure of the huge profit margin sings her siren song. Hence, we have cartels, dealers, distributors, runners, an entire manufacturing network, that, at last I read, made more income than Exxon-Mobil.

So, why not legalize grass, meth, crack, coke, the whole nine yards? Despite many going "OH MY GOD!"....imagine the results:

-WHAT meth labs? Meth will cost far less, and be safer, in accordance to FDA regs of course....

-The prices, due to high-speed manufacturers coming into the market will destroy all the cartels, just like Seagrams, Annheiser-Busch and others wiped out the shiners.

Oh, yes, we'll still have dopers. We may well have LESS of them...because those who distribute...will disappear, or, go legit and open a drug store.

It's the profit angle that makes it work. We just don't realize this. So, legalize it. There. End of crack dealers, end of meth labs, end of smuggling. End of high profitability.

Imagine then pocketing the difference...in having less crowded jails, less full prisons, and how about those billions we waste pretending we're doing something about it? Gee, what could we do with all that leftover money? Hmm. Health care?

The mind boggles....

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» RE: Legalize it all! Posted by: aussidawg
'Tis a pity
Posted by: PJT on Sep 1, 2007 10:06 AM   
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Too bad all the reasons listed are contradicted by the reality of big money industry that is making a bundle on dope now, just the way things are. The prison industry loves dope dealers and users: most of them are passive and not expensive to keep. The pharma industry is not going to allow millions to self medicate (and the medicinal benefits of dope will be immediately obvious to millions) when these folks are hooked now on expensive designer concoctions to control what ails you. The alcohol industry? Let's not get into that. Who do you think the "criminal gangs" making all this money are, the "Taliban"? Sorry dear, EVERYBODY is making money on dope, friend and foe alike. The "war on drugs" would lose its purpose if dope were legalized. There are 100,000 people in the US whose jobs depend on the WOD. Silly rabbits. Suppressing dope is big business in the US. And since when did common sense and the greatest good ever influence a politician?

By the way: I don't smoke dope, drink alcohol, eat sugar, meat, fowl, refined carbohydrates or processed food. I am 100% sober 100% of the time and I am perfectly happy. I really don't give a crap about the sad-ass dope smokers of this country. It's illegal: if you use it, you deserve to go to jail. If you want to waste your life doping it up, move to a civilized country like the Netherlands. It ain't gonna happen here, OK, so you might as well obey the law, and shut up. Philip J Tramdack

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Only one reason, not ten!
Posted by: Doubtom on Sep 1, 2007 10:06 AM   
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The one and only reason canabis should be legalized is that it grows naturally.
We should not suffer any government arrogant enough to declare any naturally growing plant illegal. In the entire history of governments, there has never been a better example of insufferable arrogance than this nation's declaration of marijuana as "illegal". What's next? Oak trees? How about oleander which has a poisonous sap? Why not poison ivy? Why not insanity!!!?
Why not tell the law makers to piss off? Get religion and private money out of our elections!

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And what about salvia?
Posted by: DPS on Sep 1, 2007 11:06 AM   
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Everyone should feel the same for Salvia Divorinum, being as how it's going to be illegal starting in 2008. It has never had anyone get hurt under the influence, and it's completely safe. So why it's going the other way now is way beyond me.... We need to stand together against these social atrocities.

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"5. Prohibition is based on lies and disinformation."
Posted by: Annapurna1 on Sep 1, 2007 11:12 AM   
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this fact alone means that there is an ulterior motive at work..and as long as that motive exists..factual arguments against prohibition are futile...

the ulterior motive is of course the power of the executive branch and the profits of its campaign sponsors ..the prison-military-industrial-complex.. nylon rope manufacturers (big oil).. and big pharma...overshadowing all this is the moralism that ppl exist to serve the economy and not the other way around.. which is a morality that obviously precludes consumer choices such as marijuana...

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My war to make weed common
Posted by: dougo on Sep 1, 2007 11:29 AM   
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In the southern part of Ohio the national and state forests are prime growing areas, but in the middle of the state we have no such forests. We must use the farmers land to grow our smoke. Actually I prefer this to woodland weed as the ground is prepared for you and it suits the cultivation of herb perfectly. The PH for corn is right on and you often get free fertilization also. The corn field is also advantageous over the woodlands for the lack of animals such as deer which also love weed. All you have to do is have your plants started by late April, wait for the corn to be planted and get to about four to six inches tall,at which time the farmer sprays herbicide. After about a week or so or a couple of good rainfalls,voilĂ , it's weed planting time. I have grown on smaller family farms and the hobby farmers. I even paid a farmer I knew once for the use of his cropland. He knew I got high and mentioned being in sad financial shape due to the low price of traditional crops. I made him a generous offer to allow me to grow on his land. I did all the tending of the crop and told him if the law found the weed all he had to do was feign ignorance with a little anger at those drug growers thrown in and he would suffer no consequences from Johnie Law. It worked great. I was able to supply my friends and family with high quality,low cost herbage and he made some tax free cash too.I prefer to plant on a moonlit night to avoid the use of flashlights. I try to pick fields away from the farmers house, preferably on sparsely or uninhabited roads. Finding the fields the fall before is a good policy. Usually corn will follow soy beans in the rotation of crops. A couple of times during the season you need to go out to check on it and fertilize. What you do is simply carry a box of your favorite fertilizer be it Miracle-Gro, or whichever. I use Miracle Gro during the growing season. I use Maxi Crop for my starts which is made from kelp. It is easy on the plants and you can't hardly over fertilize. You can use this all season also as it is an excellent fertilizer,all natural and organic. You just take the handy enclosed measuring scoop and scatter 1 scoop at the base of each plant. The next time it rains, your plants are given a boost and you aren't even there. Be sure to rough up the soil slightly or use your finger or a stick and poke some holes around the plants so the fertilizer doesn't wash away in case it rains hard. Also you should try to cultivate the lower growing varieties of plants. Nothing is more of a give-away to your herb garden than ten or twelve foot plants waving in the wind when the sheriff helicopters are overhead. Keep them spaced out twenty or more feet, not in rows, no real pattern to your plantings. If it looks like common weeds growing there is less chance of discovery. Keep an eye on the fields around harvest time. You can usually grow an excellent crop of ganja and get in and out safely if, you are cautious and don't beat a path to it by visiting your patch unnecessarily. Sometimes you can't find it by site but if you grow a good quality weed you will smell it before you see it. You have to get to the weed before the farmer harvests his crop. Nothing is worse than going to your field to harvest your bud,only to find the farmer already chopped it up with his combine. Well I hope I haven't given away any trade secrets here and I'm not trying to encourage anyone to break the law, but if you choose to try your hand at it a few tips can't hurt.If we all grow our own this country will be a better place to live. I do advocate taking all the seeds you have which aren't of the quality required for your personal crop and scattering them around the countryside or even in towns. Take a tablespoon full and throw them in your city's flower garden in front of the county court house. Those traffic islands would look good with a few marijuana specimen plants mixed in with the geraniums and impatiens. Happy gardening America

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Pot Smoking is Smoking
Posted by: skyflyer on Sep 1, 2007 12:07 PM   
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Like it or not when you smoke pot you are smoking and all the bans against smoking make any smoking a thing of the past.

It's too bad people didn't fight all the smoking bans when they had a chance...

Skyrider

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