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Campus Hypocrisy: Marijuana Is Safer, But Students Are Pushed to More Dangerous Booze

By Paul Armentano and Steve Fox and Mason Tvert, Chelsea Green Publishing. Posted August 20, 2009.


The stats for death and injury tied to alcohol on campus are staggering, yet students are more harshly punished for pot -- which is far more benign.
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Marijuana is Safer: So Why Are We Driving People to Drink? by Steve Fox, Paul Armentano and Mason Tvert
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Two weeks ago, we published an excerpt from the recently released Marijuana is Safer: So Why Are We Driving People to Drink? It was so well received, we asked the authors for a second excerpt, which is included below. If you have found one or both of these excerpts compelling, we encourage you to participate in The Great Marijuana Book Bomb taking place today (August 20). The authors have organized a one-day campaign to drive the book to the top of the Amazon.com rankings. If you want to see it reach #1, click on the book title above and make a purchase of your own.

Campuses are a microcosm of the broader society when it comes to alcohol and marijuana use. Although both substances are illegal for students under the age of twenty-one, the punishments for those who use them are far from equal. Most universities impose policies mandating that students who are busted using cannabis will face more severe sanctions than students caught drinking alcohol. We are aware of numerous students who have been removed from campus housing for possessing a small amount of marijuana in their dorm room. Yet these same students would have received a slap on the wrist -- most likely in the form of a warning or campus probation -- if alcohol had been present.

Take Purdue University in Indiana, for example. This school imposes a "zero tolerance" policy for students who are caught with marijuana in their dorms. This means that the possession of any amount of cannabis will result in immediate cancellation of their campus housing contract. By contrast, Purdue employs a "three strikes" policy for underage possession of alcohol. Bob Heitert, director of administration for university residence halls at Purdue, justifies the school's inconsistent policy this way: "Illegal drugs are against the law for everyone, while alcohol is against the law for a larger portion of students but not for everyone. Society seems to take a different approach to alcohol than they do to illegal drugs. We reflect that societal difference."

Universities like Purdue may be bound by a responsibility to punish behavior that is not consistent with the law. But they are not legally obligated to establish stringent penalties, such as enforcing zero-tolerance housing policies or barring students with minor pot violations from ever holding student office, as is the policy of the University of Maryland at College Park. More importantly, they are under no legal obligation to treat students who illegally possess marijuana on campus more severely than they sanction students who illegally possess alcohol. Yet most colleges do?and often for no reason other than a perceived need to reflect existing societal differences. And by maintaining these disparate punishments in the face of student opposition, university governments and their boards of trustees are making a conscious, if inadvertent, decision to steer students toward the use of alcohol.

And what are the ramifications of these kinds of campus policies? First, as we all know, the use of alcohol by college students is rampant. According to data from the Harvard School of Public Health College Alcohol Study, approximately 80 percent of college students drink alcohol. Figures for binge drinking are even more startling. For instance, more than 44 percent of students surveyed in 2001 said that they had engaged in binge drinking in the preceding two weeks, and more than 22 percent had done so at least three times in that time period. Predictably, these frequent binge drinkers?and those around them?often suffer as a result. As described by George Dowdall in College Drinking, "[F]requent binge drinkers were 7 to 10 times more likely than the nonbinge drinkers to get into trouble with the campus police, damage property or get injured, not use protection when having sex, or engage in unplanned sexual activity."

The social consequences of all this student drinking are even more alarming. At the most tragic level, alcohol abuse is a leading cause of fatalities on college campuses. In 2001, there were an estimated 1,700 alcohol-related unintentional-injury deaths among college students and others aged 18 to 24. But these deaths are just the tip of the alcohol-related-injury iceberg. Researchers estimate that every year approximately 600,000 students between the ages of 18 and 24 are unintentionally injured while under the influence of alcohol. Of course, those who drink are not the only ones adversely affected. Even more disturbing is the number of injuries to others that are caused by students under the influence of alcohol. Each year approximately 700,000 students between the ages of 18 and 24 are assaulted by students who have been drinking, and close to 100,000 students between the ages of 18 and 24 are victims of alcohol-related sexual assault or date rape. Yet these raw numbers only tell part of the story. The much broader impact of alcohol abuse on campus is evident when one looks at the percentage of violent acts that are booze-related. According to a 1994 report by the National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse (CASA), 95 percent of all campus assaults are alcohol-related, and 90 percent of all reported campus rapes involve a victim or an assailant who has been drinking alcohol.

"Virtually every sexual assault is associated with alcohol abuse. Almost every assault of any kind is related to drinking." - University of Maryland President C.D. "Dan" Mote, August 2008


University officials are well aware of these startling statistics. As is evident by the quote above, campus leaders not only recognize that alcohol is a frequent cause of injuries and assaults, but many also believe that it is a factor in almost all campus assaults. Think about this point for a moment. These same officials are aware that students use marijuana on their campuses?most likely to a greater extent than they would like. Yet despite pot's popularity among the student body, you rarely if ever hear university officials or campus police publicly blaming assaults or rapes on marijuana abuse. In other words, the people responsible for maintaining safety on college campuses recognize that alcohol use frequently leads to widespread injuries and violent student behavior while marijuana use does not. You would think that leaders of institutions of higher learning would rationally and impartially examine this data and act accordingly. Think again.

Confronted with this nationwide college-drinking epidemic, university leaders have generally concluded that the best approach to this problem is to instruct students, including underage students, how to consume booze more responsibly. In short, universities are implicitly, and in some cases explicitly, endorsing alcohol as the only acceptable recreational substance of choice for students.

Here is a prime example. In the introduction of our book we described a prominent effort among university presidents to address the problem of alcohol abuse and related violence on campuses. The more than 130 members of the "Amethyst Initiative" have publicly called for a national debate on lowering the drinking age to eighteen years of age. Proponents of such a change in the law believe it will bring student drinking out into the open and will lead to more responsible behavior.

However one feels about the merits of this proposal, there is no arguing that it is based on the assumption that college students are going to drink alcohol one way or the other, and that the best outcome our society can hope for is some kind of moderation of this behavior. But we contend that this assessment is incomplete and pose an alternative question. That is: If both alcohol and marijuana are currently illegal for those under the age of twenty-one, why is it acceptable to encourage young college students to "drink responsibly," but not appropriate to suggest that they should "party responsibly" with a less harmful substance like marijuana instead?

Don't we care enough about the health and safety of our nation's college students to simply have this discussion?


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Steve Fox is director of government relations for the Marijuana Policy Project. Paul Armentano is the deputy director of NORML (the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws), and Mason Tvert is co-founder of Safer Alternative for Enjoyable Recreation (SAFER)They are the co-authors of the book Marijuana Is Safer: So Why Are We Driving People to Drink (2009, Chelsea Green).

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Why bother? Obama/Biden have no intention of ending the Cannabis Prohibition.
Posted by: maxpayne on Aug 20, 2009 4:53 AM   
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Business as usual.

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I've always wondered about this
Posted by: Gabba_Gabba_Hey on Aug 20, 2009 5:52 AM   
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Why don't the old hippies who run college campuses look more benignly on marijuana, when it is within their ability to do so? You know THEY weren't guzzling vodka back in the '60s & '70s - they were smoking pot and doing much "worse" in the drug area (LSD, shrooms, etc etc). Hypocrisy.

As the article says, sure there is federal policy and "societal" pressures, blah blah blah. But college administrators ignore society when they want to take a stand, or just when it's convenient for them. Why the crackdown on marijuana, of all things?

And what's? with all the? question? marks inserted randomly? in this? article?, is? the copy editor? stoned?

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» RE: I have the correct answer... Posted by: nickrhoward
Hypocrisy and Injustice at the Highest Levels of Government
Posted by: picket on Aug 20, 2009 6:04 AM   
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The unjust drug laws in some way or other have touched every citizen of the USA.

Obama our millionaire President will not and does not wish to hear the voices calling out for CHANGE. He has his hands over his ears and ignores millions of citizens that voted and then HOPED & Cried Out for a Change in Drug Policy and other areas of social justice.

There are a million personal stories out here in everyday life that make the heart ache because of the unjust drug laws. Your elected leaders do not hear the cries for justice and common sense changes for living lives. It is a bad sad joke.

The leaders of ALL the Third Parties should call a summit and plan and work to combine forces for real change next election cycle. One United Third Party that we all can support. Working separately they do not have a chance to win and all the effort and money is a waste. The hour is already late.

A Third Party President, a Real Leader with a mandate from the people would have made a difference this time. What about next time???

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» the American delusion Posted by: Tom Tele
Who Cares
Posted by: bcainw on Aug 20, 2009 6:06 AM   
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NORML's Armentano is focusing on issues where are largely irrelevant. 52% of Americans want Marijuana Re-Legalized yet NORML is pushing forward with what can be best described as a "Government Marijuana Dispensary" system where the government will be your new drug dealer, selling you Marijuana at black market prices of between $300 to $500 an ounce.

Why would anyone want this? If NORML, DPA and MPP would get behind the MERP Model we could all be growing our own Marijuana for FREE. That is the better approach.

For More on MERP:

MERP Headquarters
The Marijuana Re-Legalization Policy Project (MRPP)= "MERP"
http://www.newagecitizen.com/MERP.htm

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» RE: What do you think? Posted by: Sister_Lauren
» RE: Who Cares Posted by: musclecarfreak
Same story...greed
Posted by: reelectnoone on Aug 20, 2009 7:11 AM   
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It all goes back to the same story. Greed.

There is a lot of money being made by selling booze. A lot of taxes collected. Prohibition's experiment taught the government to live with booze.

So far there has been no incentive to end prohibition of pot and the only people who do make money from it now are doing so illegally. They make a LOT and pay not taxes.

What this ads up to is that three elements in power want pot to remain illegal and work together to make it so...

1) Alcohol producers
2) Federal Government
3) Drug Cartels

'Nuff said?

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» RE: Darwinism in action Posted by: kettleblack
double standard: alcohol vs. marijuana
Posted by: vasumurti on Aug 20, 2009 7:18 AM   
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Collegiate excess has repercussions far beyond hangovers and missed classes, and should be of concern to members of the surrounding community. "Binge drinking hurts not only the drinker but also others near him," says Henry Wechsler, Ph.D., a lecturer at the Harvard school of Public Health, where he was also the director of the College Alcohol Study, and author of Dying to Drink: Confronting Binge Drinking on College Campuses.

"The binge drinker disturbs the peace, through noise, vandalism and sometimes violence. Like secondhand smoke, binge drinking pollutes the environment."

"The [social] cost of alcohol is in the billions of dollars. Roughly half the total is related to what's called alcohol addiction," says Paul Gruenewald, scientific director of the Prevention Research Center at the University of California, Berkeley, which is funded by the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism.

"The other half is related to other harms that happen to people when drinking; primarily drunk driving, drunk driving crashes, pedestrian injuries, violent assaults, and various criminal behaviors and various injuries," Gruenewald said.

"It's not a pretty picture. It's quite ugly from the public health point of view. It's a much bigger problem than crime related to illegal drugs," he added.

Alcohol, not marijuana, is the most abused drug in the United States. There are an estimated eight million known alcoholics in America, and the number increases by 450,000 every year. One survey reported that 75 percent of all crimes and 60 percent of all divorces have drinking in their background. The National Safety Council reports 50 percent of all traffic deaths are caused by drunk drivers.

According to Dr. John MacDougall, over seven percent of the adult population in the United States suffers from alcoholism, resulting in decreased productivity, accidents, crime, mental and physical disease and disruption of family life. Excessive consumption of alcohol leads to liver disease, cancer, birth defects (fetal alcohol syndrome) and multiple vitamin deficiency diseases.

A report by the World Health Organization states that "Alcohol is a poison to the nervous system. The double solubility of alcohol in water and fat enables it to invade the nerve cell. A man may become a chronic alcoholic without ever having shown symptoms of drunkenness." The conclusion of the report is that nobody is immune to alcoholism and total abstinence is the only solution.

Dr. MacDougall writes that excessive consumption of caffeine leads to an elevated heart rate, irregular heart beat, increased blood pressure, frequent urination, increased gastric secretion, nervousness, irritability and insomnia. Caffeine is known to cause birth defects in animals, and may do the same in humans. Caffeine stimulates the growth of breast cells, causing benign lumps.

Excessive intake of caffeine may cause a rise in blood fats. Cancer of the urinary bladder has been linked to caffeine use and it contributes to loss of calcium from the body. Moreover, the body actually becomes physically addicted to caffeine. Withdrawal symptoms include headaches, drowsiness, tension and anxiety.

Pregnant women who consume caffeine -- even about a cup of coffee daily -- are at higher risk of giving birth to an underweight baby, researchers said. The findings published in the British Medical Journal also linked any source of caffeine, including that from tea, cola, chocolate and some prescription drugs, to relatively slower fetal growth.

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» RE: Posted by: lesfrad
Preparing Young People for the Drunk Culture
Posted by: kettleblack on Aug 20, 2009 7:54 AM   
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"Society seems to take a different approach to alcohol than they do to illegal drugs. We reflect that societal difference."

Reflect? College is programming the students on societal behavior. Don't step out of line, or you are "voted off the island." Alcohol is the approved drug of the power brokers, so college is preparing them accordingly.
Can you picture a smoke-filled room, where they are making back-room deals and smoking pot? Neither can I. Cigarettes and booze? You betcha.
Drinking alcohol makes it easier to be mean.
In order to survive and succeed in business, you gotta swim with sharks, at least in the corporate world.
It's not about healthy choices.
They don't want any stoners in their midst.

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The phony, endless war on drugs (especially pot) keeps cops, lawyers, prison-industry, etc. in
Posted by: JohnTruth2001 on Aug 20, 2009 8:15 AM   
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plenty of make-work, extra $$$, & increasing powers!

Alcohol is big corporatist busine$$, & also makes people need more for-profit, lucrative healthcare services!

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Putting profits before sanity is what this unfettered capitalism is about.
Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Aug 20, 2009 8:23 AM   
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Alcohol is supposed to be addictive and thus generating more profits while marijuana is not so addictive and can thus grow anywhere. Hence, it is deemed a "threat" to the economy. That said, when money before quality comes first, such blatant double standards are common.

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» Sigh, check the numbers long term. Posted by: JenniferBedingfield
What a bunch of inane, off-target comments!
Posted by: Gabba_Gabba_Hey on Aug 20, 2009 9:50 AM   
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These comments are exasperating. Almost all of you are making these grand, "meta" statements about the drug war in general, and I don't disagree - all statements made on AlterNet many, many times, yeah yeah yeah. But none of the comments address the POINT of the actual article. It raises (but does not answer) a little-discussed and important point.

WHY do college administrators go along with this system, in so many ways they aren't required to by law? What could possibly be their motivation? They do not profit from this system in any way.

And they blame "societal" pressures? They never seem to give a shit about what society thinks about anything else, do they? So why this? They are always getting hot & bothered about all sorts of perceived injustices all over the world, but why are they willing to KILL their own students in service of the ridiculous drug war?

No doubt there are a lot of college administrators who read and post on AlterNet! I'd love to hear from those hypocrites, but maybe with classes starting soon they are too stoned right now to comment!

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» RE: What a whiner Posted by: Sister_Lauren
» Well, your answers don't make any sense! Posted by: Gabba_Gabba_Hey
Just another of MANY reasons I don't live on campus
Posted by: Sekhmetnakt on Aug 20, 2009 9:59 AM   
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...And never would! Why would any half-sane person? What for some fake "freedom"? "Freedom" from what/who? I live with my father and go to college localy, my father isn't brainwashed about pot or some hyprocrite big pharma asskising punk like these tyrant college administrators. I have all the freedom I want by staying home with him, not by subjecting myself to treatment as some pathatic power-hungery prick's school-slave. Hell my dad and I light-up together! With college I'm in and OUT as fast as possiable, it's a no freedom, enemy war-zone there IMO. May as well be on parole to stay under their unconstitutional "authority". I guess most young adults still want to be treated as less-than-fully-human children- NOT ME! PASS!

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» RE: college campuses Posted by: Sister_Lauren
» RE: college campuses Posted by: Sekhmetnakt
Don Quixote
Posted by: Don Quixot on Aug 20, 2009 10:30 AM   
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The reason for this, as for wars, as for... too many thing in this world is simple: $, $ and $.

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» RE: Don Quixote Posted by: Sister_Lauren
What did you do in the drug war daddy?
Posted by: solrev on Aug 20, 2009 10:42 AM   
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The university I went to in the sixties had 22 bars on campus and drugs were legal or no one cared anyway. Now we have the war on drugs and every one has to fight the good war. I will also bet that I could go back to my old campus and within a couple of hours be hitting a pipe. The first place I would go to find some pot anywhere in the US is a bar. So alcohol and pot are not going anywhere whatever the law is. In fact Paleolithic tribes in the good old days that used hallucinogens also knew how to make the joy juice. What is more interesting than what particular law is in effect at this particular time, is why in all of human history we have been and currently are drug people.

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Do your part to legalize marijuana
Posted by: ab390 on Aug 20, 2009 12:44 PM   
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Do your part to legalize marijuana in California. Visit yes390.org

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Enough Already
Posted by: patsy6 on Aug 20, 2009 12:46 PM   
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I think most of us agree that pot should be legal, but please, Alternet, enough already with the at least once weekly articles extoling its virtues and advocating for its legalization. It's WAY down on our list of priorities right now.

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» RE: Speak for yourself Posted by: kettleblack
DOES ANYONE KNOW FOR SURE?
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Aug 20, 2009 3:06 PM   
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If marijuana were legal would the students prefer it to alcohol? My guess is that they'd like both to be OK. Booze is by far the corporate preference. Schools rely a great deal on donations from big Biz and they won't shoot the goose who lays their golden egg. I'm not convinced that this is about he students. ANNA

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» RE: DOES ANYONE KNOW FOR SURE? Posted by: Tom Tele
Pot And Taxation.
Posted by: melpol on Aug 20, 2009 4:21 PM   
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Laws against marijuana use, gives more work for the police and fills the jails. It is an excuse for hiring more cops. Decriminalization is impossible unless its taxation saves bankrupt governments.

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» RE: Pot And Taxation. Posted by: lesfrad
2 big differences
Posted by: norsegirl on Aug 20, 2009 5:25 PM   
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1. Colleges really don't want smoking in their dorms, and a stoned smoker is even more of a risk for a dorm fire than a drinker.

2. Contemporary trafficking of alcohol has a lot less blood on its hands than marijuana. Governments aren't being undermined by alcohol trafficking, cops being shot, farmers being threatened and extorted, etc. And creating a demand for pot now only adds to the problem. Lot of lives ruined, lots of innocents killed for you to achieve your high.

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» RE: 2 big differences, seriatim Posted by: tokerdesigner
» RE: 2 big differences Posted by: lesfrad
The double standards
Posted by: LeonBNJ on Aug 20, 2009 5:49 PM   
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We still have a very deep double standard as to alcohol and pot. In large part it is about politicans of both major parties having to look tough on illegal drugs to get the votes of the uneducated masses.
I would also note one can often drink to the point of danger in a dorm, but you can't smoke tobacco, a legal product even for those as young as 18/19 years old, inside buildings except in a private residence in many states, so even if you want to smoke pot on campus, you would have to go outside your dorm.
Pot is not totally beneign. You are still affected and should not drive, you are at greater risk than sober as to injury, and it is may encourage sometimes irresponsible sex. On the other hand unlike excessive drinking, a joint won't make you puke or die in your puke (unless you have bad munchies).

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» RE: The double standards Posted by: Tom Tele
» RE: The double standards Posted by: lesfrad
Big Alcohol is the Running Dog of Big 2Wackgo, and Both Fear Cannabis
Posted by: tokerdesigner on Aug 20, 2009 6:17 PM   
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Here's how it works:

1. Teasing, hazing, insults in front of your girl, many other kinds of social harassment (often from the jocks who aggress with impunity because, well, they're heroes, making the University sound good in newscasts) make it advisable to join a fraternity or other quasi-gang so you have buddies to stand up for you.

2. In order to join, you may have to appear at a "smoker" or other party where you are "invited" to show you can drink as many beers as the other guys do.

3. There may be lots of sidestream smoke (SSS), you may be expected to smoke some cigarettes, you may have to prove you are and have been a smoker, etc.

4. If you pass out from the drinking binge and sit bravely with head in hands you will doubtless inhale over 1000 doses of SSS in a few hours.

5. After some days of hangover and depression you are behind in your studies and a big test is approaching, or a "source theme" must be finished by tomorrow, you must stay up all night somehow! This is when a cigarette or two might really help! (Sleep Abatement Performance Drug #1)

6. Thus Big 2Wackgo gets a lifelong $2000/year (pack-a-day) addict! Thanks, Moo U!

7. The tobacco industry doesn't want to see alcoholism and binge drinking go down, because they are one of its best recruitment devices.

8. College administrators either know or sense that Big 2Wackgo has infinite money = power to punish them if they do what it hates most: tolerate any effective means of tobacco avoidance, especially cannabis which can substitute for their recruiting agent alcohol.

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As a recent University of Maryland grad....
Posted by: CBleichner on Aug 21, 2009 11:29 AM   
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I was either going to come out of college addicted or repulsed by alcohol consumption... and I can definately say that smoking pot saved me. I'd like to list some of the events caused by alcohol consumption which occurred in my life during my years spent at Maryland.

1. A Drunk girl passed out and pissed herself in my roommate's desk chair.
2. A guy visiting my roommate was so drunk he shit his pants and somehow wiped that shit on the bathroom wall.
3.About 30 different people have thrown up in my apartment.
4. My roommate thought it was a good idea to hose down our entire apartment with a fire extinguisher when there was no fire.
5. My friend Kate was trying to sleep with my roommate (who had a girlfriend) and got in a fight with her friend over how slutty she was being. Kate left our party and went running through College Park, MD barefooted and tried to walk home apox. 20 miles down 495... only she was drunk and walking in the wrong direction. In doing so she was abducted by a fake cop and almost raped before I found her in the parking lot behind a random apartment building. Luckily for her I was only smoking pot and was able to drive a car. Yes, that man went to jail.
6. My neighbor fell down our apartment stairs and broke his arm. He was also on coke, but I blame the alcohol.
7. My roomate's younger brother hit a telephone pole going 50 mph because he was drunk and dropped his phone under his car seat.
8. Many objects appeared randomly in my apartment the morning after drunken evenings, including the tow company signs for our building, two signs with our street name, a local construction company's sign, parking cones, the carpet from our building's lobby, and many other random things.
9. About 10 fights occurred in my apartment, including several which led to ambulances arriving.

.... I could go on, but it's pointless.

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Coffee is safer than either smoking or drinking
Posted by: notalemming on Aug 21, 2009 5:31 PM   
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The idea of the title is not logical and actually dishonest--keeping pot illegal is forcing people to drink? All these drinkers would rather be smoking pot instead?

In fact, 98% of those who use marijuana also drink alcohol (and many also smoke and do other drugs), so legalizing mj will likely not decrease alcohol consumption or abuse but will just add more pot consumption.

Coffee is safer than both of them. It's high in antioxidants and improves brain function--and protects against heart disease, cancer, type II diabetes...and it's legal. So I'm waiting for all you drinkers and pot smokers to give up your drug of choice and switch to the truly superior alternative.

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Posted by: boay on Aug 25, 2009 7:50 PM   
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MTS to AVI Converter,best MTS to avi converter

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» RE: MTS to AVI Converter Posted by: lesfrad
crazy
Posted by: jtpatrick108 on Aug 25, 2009 10:01 PM   
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people just need to realize that weed is going to be commonplace. its the safest party substance out there. (not to mention stimulates the economy with kids buying munchies everywhere haha). when will we live to see legal weed

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