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Kids Do the Darndest Things: Joe Biden's Cocaine Dilemma

By Tony Newman, AlterNet. Posted March 30, 2009.


The allegations about Ashley Biden offer her father a chance to join the millions who challenge the irrationality of our drug laws.
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I received a text message at 11 p.m. on Saturday while I was walking to a party in Brooklyn. The message was about a "breaking story": Ashley Biden, daughter of Vice President Joe Biden, has allegedly been caught on video using cocaine. My friends know that I work at the Drug Policy Alliance, so I often get e-mails or calls when celebrities or elected officials have some drug-use drama.

My first thought was shit, again? It was less than two months ago that Michael Phelps face was plastered all over the media for the Bong Hit Seen Around the World. While walking down the street, with my own vodka buzz on, a range of other thoughts started racing through my head.

Part of me is thinking of the irony. As senator in the late 1980s, Biden was a cheerleader for the drug war. He played a major role in creating the drug czar's office and in enacting the draconian mandatory minimum sentences that have filled our prisons with nonviolent drug law offenders.

It's practically a page right out of the Traffic screenplay. If the video proves to be legitimate, Ashley Biden could join Noelle Bush, Rush Limbaugh, Patrick Kennedy, Ted Haggard and the many other examples that prove drug use and abuse can touch every family.

The next feeling is uneasiness. When stories like this hit families, especially political ones, it can break in two ways.

On one hand, I can envision Vice President Biden, realizing that drug use is so widespread that it even touches his daughter, would become more sympathetic to other people who use drugs. There are hundreds of thousands people behind bars serving long prison sentences on drug charges. The realization that other people's kids are living in a cage for doing the same thing that his daughter did could be a transformative experience.

In recent years, Biden has championed a number of progressive drug-policy reforms -- like introducing legislation to completely eliminate the 100-to-1 crack/powder cocaine sentencing disparity and rolling back the mandatory minimums he favored in the late 1980s. Perhaps his daughter's experience will strengthen his resolve.

On the other hand, these experiences can cause people to move into another direction. When Jimmy Carter was president, his administration seriously considered marijuana decriminalization. There is even footage of Carter and others in his administration saying that the laws against marijuana are more harmful than the drug.

But before the law was changed, someone in his drug-policy staff was outed for doing cocaine at a D.C. party -- and the issue of decriminalizing marijuana never came up again.

I don't know the details of Ashley Biden and her alleged cocaine use. If she does have a drug problem, then it's likely that she'll gain access to the best treatment options available. It would be terrific if this led Joe Biden to advocate for treatment on demand for all those who need it in this country.

That said, there are millions of people who have tried cocaine, or use it occasionally, who don't develop a problem. If this is true in Ashley Biden's case, she would strike another blow to the myth that if you try cocaine you will become an addict and before you know it end up unemployed and homeless.

It also raises the question about whether we should be arresting and incarcerating -- or even forcing people like her into treatment through drug courts -- when she may not even have a drug problem.

Too many people, including Joe Biden, automatically want the alternative to incarceration to be coerced treatment under the supervision of the criminal justice system. Maybe we should just leave alone people whose drug use isn't harming anyone else.

If Ashley Biden truly doesn't have a drug problem and her biggest mistake was to allow herself to be filmed by a so-called friend trying to make money off her trust, I hope she doesn't misdiagnosis the problem and solution.

I hope that her and her father's crisis management strategy will not lead to tearful apologies where she claims to have a drug problem and promises to go to treatment to go get help.

Given Joe Biden's high-profile views on the drug war, they also shouldn't claim that this is a personal issue and that they want their privacy.

I would hope instead that Ashley Biden's response and action is to join the millions of people who are challenging the ignorance and irrationality of locking up hundreds of thousands of our fellow citizens because of a nonviolent drug offense.

If Ashley and Joe Biden can use this embarrassing experience to become involved in changing our inhumane polices, then the Biden family, and our country, will be better for it.


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This "story" broke in the New York Post (grain of salt anyone?)
Posted by: GuitarBill on Mar 30, 2009 12:45 PM   
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From the NY Post we read, "...A 'friend' of Vice President Joseph Biden's daughter, Ashley, is attempting to hawk a videotape that he claims shows her snorting cocaine at a house party this month in Delaware...The anonymous male acquaintance of Ashley took the video, said Thomas Dunlap, a lawyer representing the seller...Dunlap and a man claiming to be a lawyer showed The Post about 90 seconds of 43-minute tape, saying it was legally obtained and that Ashley was aware she was being filmed. The Post refused to pay for the video...The video, which the shooter initially hoped to sell for $2 million before scaling back his price to $400,000, shows a 20-something woman with light skin and long brown hair taking a red straw from her mouth, bending over a desk, inserting the straw into her nostril and snorting lines of white powder...The woman appears to resemble Ashley Biden, 27, a social worker for a Delaware child-welfare agency and a visible presence during her father's campaign for the White House."

NY Post? The NY Post is owned by Rupert Murdoch's (Fox News anyone?) News Corp.

Sorry, but I don't believe a word of it.

Consider the source. And consider the motives (Money, and lots of it) of the "friend" who took the video.

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» That doesn't surprise me, EM. Posted by: GuitarBill
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» RE: That doesn't surprise me, EM. Posted by: GuitarBill
» Arrested for pot Posted by: jennymac
» That's strange? Posted by: GuitarBill
» Straw men and red herrings? Posted by: GuitarBill
» RE: We should all want proof Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com
It doesn't matter that Ashley did it or not. Just end the god damned motherfucking drugwar already !
Posted by: maxpayne on Mar 30, 2009 1:07 PM   
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There's more than enough to get it done and Ashley isn't adding anything new to all this.

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» RE: Joe Biden the big boys love him Posted by: Sister_Lauren
» 9/11? Posted by: jennymac
Now, let's not have any phony outrage over this
Posted by: sausage on Mar 30, 2009 1:07 PM   
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C'mon, people, no phony outrage, a la wing nut, over Rupert Murdoch's New York Post running this story. I remember how we were all laughing our collective ass off at Rush Limbaugh's Oxycontin bust.

And, as far as I know, Ashly Biden ain't been popped yet and she probably won't be!

And anyway, who can afford cocaine these days? That must be the reason the young gentleman who taped Ashley snorting a line or two is shopping the video around for the highest bidder!

What this incident really shows is: Rich kids play, poor kids go to jail!

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» Gentleman? ;-) Posted by: GuitarBill
» RE: Gentleman? ;-) Posted by: Sister_Lauren
"DON'T KNOW THE DETATILS" ?
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Mar 30, 2009 1:26 PM   
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When you do, write the story. Keep in mind that it's not about Joe Biden, it's about Ashley Biden. Someone has a picture that might be her, tried to get $250,00 and couldn't. Nice try. The Michael Phelps story was a bad call and it backfired on Kellogg. They got alot of bad publicity and the food pantries that got truckloads of boxes with his picture on them sold tham on e-bay for $1500 each. Turned out to be a money maker for the charities. Journalists who are hell bent on destroying a politician throught his family have to do some serious fact checking. ANNA

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» RE: Yes it is about Joe Biden Posted by: Sister_Lauren
It's the Cost, Stupid
Posted by: dayahka on Mar 30, 2009 4:11 PM   
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The astronomical cost of incarcerating millions of people for drug abuse is what is going to get to people sooner or later. Prisons are a bubble, one of a long list of bubbles affecting this country. California has started a trend, maybe, in releasing non-violent drug offenders. Other states may follow.

It is the cost, the money, that's going to make any changes. Same thing for medical care. Same thing for unaffordable junk heaps called homes. Same thing for insolvent banks, worthless pensions, casino Wall Street, and on and on. When there's no money left for anything much, the vast prison population will decline. Expecting people to be "reasonable" and to change draconian laws out of some rational impulse is a waste of time and energy.

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» RE: It's the Cost, Stupid Posted by: aussidawg
» RE: It's the Cost, Stupid Posted by: orwellturns
» RE: It's the Cost, Stupid Posted by: aussidawg
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» RE: It's the Cost, Stupid Posted by: aussidawg
» RE: It's the Cost, Stupid Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN
Oh what a surprise!!! NOT!!!!!!
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Mar 30, 2009 4:28 PM   
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Nearly every person in Congress, on Wall St or in the Oval Office has had,does have or will have someone using drugs of one form or another. To find out Joe Biden's kid is into coke is no shock. Only if you think the dickhole that created the 'Drug Czar' is as clean as a 'skeeter's peter'. Well Folks..it just ain't so. The Bush daughters were addicted to pills and booze. Clinton's brother had to get a pardon from Bill for drug crimes. Biden's a boozehead,so is most of Congress.

For Biden to speak about the 'horrors of drugs' is about as genuine as the Pope expounding the joys of homosexuality. These people create laws to hide behind what they or their kids do. They always did.

It breaks down like this " We're going to tell you how to live,where to live,what to eat, where to shop,where to work, what kind of insurance you'll be underinsured with and how much we're not going to take care of you in your old age. If you don't like it...TOUGH SHIT! We're the ones you elected and you'll eat our shit and like it'.

All you fools that voted for this farce we call'the American Democratic System' are fools being lead by even bigger fools who's only motto is 'Steal from the people to prop up the few and make laws that make them criminals if they bitch too loud'.

Hey Joe, you got a kid overseas fighting for our 'freedom'. Imagine how shocked he's going to be when you pass laws that make him pay for his post-war medical care and he finds out he risked his life for a country that pisses all over Freedom,Liberty and the Constitution.

If he's like you,he'll probably go along with it. If he's got any balls he'll strap back on that bodyamour and stand against you.

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Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Mar 30, 2009 4:47 PM   
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Our Drug Policy...
Posted by: Starfall Deception on Mar 30, 2009 5:40 PM   
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...needs to be reformatted. There's a lot of crap that's wrong with it. First of all, there's nothing dangerous about weed. Why make it illegal? Crack... well, crack can be pretty dangerous. Don't make it legal, but don't send the addicted to jail. Maybe, I don't know, help them with their addiction so they don't do crack anymore. But wait, that would make sense, wouldn't it? We can't have that here.

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» RE: Our Drug Policy... Posted by: aussidawg
» RE: Our Drug Policy... Posted by: HillbillyRob
» RE: Our Drug Policy... Posted by: richholland
» RE: Our Drug Policy... Posted by: Wayne Phillips
How is a video tape relevent?
Posted by: RevinFreddy on Mar 30, 2009 5:49 PM   
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In Junior High School I had Home Economics (cooking and sewing) as an elective. One day, on a dare, I lined up line of flower on our group's table and sniffed it up my nose. Really dumb!!! I had an instant and massive asthma attack, as the flower seemed to go directly into my longs. My head wes stuffed up for three days! That was really stupid!

Years later, I had a girlfriend who had a psychotic relationship with her "ex-fiance" with whom she had a baby boy. Because she decided mariage was a really bad idea after several violent eposodes between them, the ex decided to trick her into incriminating herself by doing a line of meth with him. Beingh stupid and naive, she took the offer and whiffed up the line, unknown to her, while being filmed on the Ex's hidden camcorder. He threatened her with it constantly and if she didn't do whatever he said, he was going to take it to the police... and to the school... and so on...

I tried to explain to her that the idea that a video recording of someone sucking a white line of powder into their nose, while may seem incriminating, provides no evidence as to what the substance was. I mean come on!!! For all anyone knows, it was flower or sugar!!! Regardless what you may have thought it was before you ingested it.

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Just Common Sense
Posted by: DrBrian on Mar 30, 2009 7:49 PM   
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This would be a good time to explore whether the drug war, which costs more in money and lives than it could possibly save, is a wise thing.

A treatment-based, demand-side strategy makes far more sense than a law enforcement based, supply side plan.

Drug use is a medical and psychological problem and is best handled by experts from those fields rather than by law enforcement and corrections.

The economic crisis presents a good opportunity to explore more cost-effective solutions.

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» RE: Just Common Sense Posted by: richholland
Let's start by ending marijuana prohibition
Posted by: greenferret on Mar 31, 2009 1:29 AM   
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Harvard economist Jeffery Miron estimates that legalizing and taxing marijuana in the US would be worth $77 billion in annual revenue. Ending prohibition will cut off a major revenue source for organized crime, and stop sending drug users to jail for a nonviolent, victimless crime.

Tell President Obama and your elected representatives that marijuana should be legalized and taxed at GreenChange.org.

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» Tax, My Ass Posted by: ksun77
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» RE: Tax, My Ass Posted by: Sister_Lauren
» RE: Tax, My Ass Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN
» RE: Tax, My Ass Posted by: Sister_Lauren
» RE: Tax, My Ass Posted by: Wayne Phillips
truelass
Posted by: Truelass on Mar 31, 2009 1:48 AM   
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The decriminalization of pot is a step that must be taken now! Canada has cities with safe needle injection sites and a great lobby to get pot recognized as a recreational harmless drug. The US government agencies spend millions to support, that's right support, drugs coming into the country and the NRA support arming the dealers.

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opiates are not addictive substances--google Bruce K Alexander or "Rat Park"
Posted by: Suzon on Mar 31, 2009 4:05 AM   
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The whole idea of addiction must be shown for the lie that it is. There are no drug "addicts" as such. People do turn to drugs to self-medicate.

Alexander's Rat Park experiments provided compelling evidence that opiates are not addictive substances (and if they're not, other drugs including alcohol probably aren't either). Alexander watched the films (c 1980) showing rats scrambling over an electrified grid to get a hit. He looked at the miserable conditions that lab rats were living in and concluded that he'd do like the rats and endure some pain to get even a moment of relief.

He and his colleagues built a spacious environment where rats could socialize, mate, feed their young and play. They could choose to drink plain water or water laced with opiates. Until the laced water was sweetened, the rats always preferred the plain water. And even though rats love sweets, the sweetened laced water was largely ignored.

When life is good, you don't want to take the edge off.

Build a nurturing society and get rid of all this condemning, prosecuting and punishing.

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» Sorry Suzon, you're wrong Posted by: hotar
» Don't sweat it suz Posted by: begruntleed
» RE: heartless Suzon Posted by: stellabloo
Is Hillary Willing to Point a finger at Bidens daughter for the Mexican Drug wars too
Posted by: Purple Girl on Mar 31, 2009 4:30 AM   
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Hillary is an idiot and an asshole.
She blames america for the Drug wars in Mexico.Well then we should also be blamed for the huge stashes of cash from herione production in Afghanistan for the attacks of 9/11 too ah?
worse yet she claims it's the influx of weapons from the US- Ah who should be legislating laws on Gun producers to assure their products don't end up in the hands of drug cartels or Terrorists or sociopaths who shoot up churches and nursing homes???
Hillary love to obsure the underlying issues by blaming average americans for the worlds problems. She hasn't even got the 'Testicular fortitude' to call out China on it's horrendous Human Rights violations- perhaps she sees the Buddhist monks as the instigators of their own massacre.
Follow the Fucking money Hillary- the Corps who manufacture the weapons and then 'lose' control of where their weapons end up, The Corps who make huge profits by Trafficking Human labor across the border. These aren't just US Corps cheap labor market, they are also used(forced) as mules for the Drug czars.
And what about those corps who moved our Jobs down to Mexico- only to bug out again when SE asia became the newest Cheap labor market. They pulled the rug out from under them as they have US- and what causes drug abuse- hopelessness and helplessness. The only 'job' left is working for the cartels- That includes the police who no longer have a tax base to support their meager salaries.So don't blame the Pot smoking College Student or even the junkie on the street when it has been You, so called Public servants, who have Aided the corps in creating this socio-economic cesspool of desperation and despair.You have allowed these Corps to hopscotch around the world sucking the life out of one group of people to the next- so their Stock prices go up and their pockets get lined- with Blood money.

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Ouch
Posted by: 2thepoint on Mar 31, 2009 5:44 AM   
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parents many times have little control over their children.. you raise them the best you can and hope for the best..

Bidens daughter, Gores son etc.. what a parent to do. We are all excpeted to feel for the parents and hope a message can come from this for others.

Seems that wasn't the sentiments of the left regarding Palins daughter - who decided to HAVE her baby instead of terminating it! Now THAT is a wonderful message!


legalizing Drugs or saving a life.. which do you take!

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» RE: Bidens daughter, Gores son etc.. Posted by: Sister_Lauren
» RE: Ouch Posted by: aussidawg
» RE: Ouch Posted by: 2thepoint
» RE: Ouch Posted by: lisafrequency
» RE: Ouch: Prohibition as Disease Posted by: Wayne Phillips
Island Skye
Posted by: IslandSkye on Mar 31, 2009 5:52 AM   
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1.Ashley Biden is an adult who happens to be Joe Biden's daughter. Adult is the operative word. We can all appreciate the ironies of this particular offspring doing cocaine, but her choice to use isn't about Joe Biden.
2.If she were to be prosecuted for this "transgression", I am sure JB would reconsider the wisdom of his former enthusiasm for harsh (and stupid) anti-drug laws. Such is life. We get to live more, experience more, so that we can recognize the error of our former certainties!
3.Consider the source--New York Post/Murdoch.
4.I read elsewhere that the slime (ex boyfriend of Ms. Biden) withdrew his claims about the video. Anyone know about that?
PS. Hilary is NOT an idiot for saying that the United States' appetite for drugs is fueling the "war" in Mexico. Of course it is. If there were no illegal drugs (or ideally no drug use) in the US, what would there be for the cartels to fight about? AND, if all the weapons are not being bought in the US, who is supplying them? Hmmm.

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» RE: Island Skye Posted by: richholland
Make Use of This Excellent Column
Posted by: aahpat on Mar 31, 2009 6:11 AM   
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Tony Newman wrote an excellent column here. One that the White House and Joe Biden should see. So here is the contact information the Vice President's office. Write a cover letter with you opinion and attach it to the column by Tony Newman.

There is a FAX number for the VP's office and I highly recommend that you use it. Fax numbers go directly into offices unlike emails that get lost in the blizzard of email traffic or hard copy snail mail that sits in the post office for months waiting to be tested for anthrax.

Contact page for Vice President Joe Biden

http://www.whitehouse.gov/ContactUs/

Vice President Joe Biden
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500

Comments: 202-456-1111
Switchboard: 202-456-1414
FAX: 202-456-2461

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» My Cover Letter to Biden Posted by: aahpat
» RE: My Cover Letter to Biden Posted by: Sister_Lauren
IF !!! it is.. Ashley Biden OR Jane DOE...just STOP the Drug
Posted by: picket on Mar 31, 2009 7:17 AM   
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WAR MADNESS !!
People rightly get upset over UNEQUAL justice under the Law in the USA. It is a fact of life and part of reality. For example, "in New York State there are more than 5,000 people doing hard time for simple drug possession". " A half-gram of cocaine can earn a Class D felony charge". [ 1,098 people were imprisoned for that offense 2/09]

StoptheDrugwar.org Drug War Chronicle, issue #575,3/09

I assume that the female in the picture was in possession of more than one half gram. Joe Biden is a Drug Warrior, a devout prohibitionist. I think he would treat HIS own daughter humanely BUT not OUR children.

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» RE: UNEQUAL justice Posted by: Sister_Lauren
a 3rd outcome
Posted by: Semi-Anon on Mar 31, 2009 7:44 AM   
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your scenario misses a 3rd outcome which i think is the most likely. That as a rich and powerful senator the whole story will be swept under the rug. Unlike a "normal person" for whom the draconian drug laws actually apply, even if the daughter is guilty she will never serve any time and never even see a courtroom. She may be asked to do "community service" i.e. make public appearances and read a carefully worded statement, but that will be the sum total.

unfortunately, all too often in America the laws only apply to the average person, not the rich and powerful.

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» RE: Yes but Posted by: Sister_Lauren
Whose problem is this?
Posted by: fbear0143 on Mar 31, 2009 7:46 AM   
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Tell me how this situation, if it is even true,. is Joe Biden's. Once more, provided this is even true, Ashley Biden is a grown woman. So what arrogance for a "gotcha" newspaper (I use the trm VERY loosly) to even try to visit the sins of the child on th father. Or does the Post hae another video tape of Daddy making the buy for her? These ideological assholes will do anything to discredit the new guys in town if they dan. Funny, though, how we qickly forget just how bad the other guys were for the past eight yeare because the new guys can't clean up eight years of shit in two months. GIVE ME A BREAK!!

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The White House Hasn't Repudiated the Tape
Posted by: aahpat on Mar 31, 2009 7:51 AM   
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And the media has not asked the White House about the tape.

This story has been out there since Saturday.

True or not the media should be asking the White Hose for comment.

True or not the White House should be unilaterally repudiating the tape and trying to defuse the story.

If the White House does not repudiate a story it is usually because the story is true and the White House can't repudiate it.

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» Bull$h!t! Posted by: aahpat
» Straw men and red herrings. Posted by: GuitarBill
» RE: Silly me. I Expect Leadership Posted by: GuitarBill
» "political bravery"? Posted by: GuitarBill
» RE: We already have kangaroo courts Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com
Two codes
Posted by: BlueTigress on Mar 31, 2009 7:53 AM   
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Nah, Joe will what every other wealthy/powerful parent does: take care of his own (read sweep under nearest rug) and keep right on keepin' on.

It's always different when it's THEIR child.

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» RE: Two codes Posted by: Sister_Lauren
» Does he know better? Posted by: BlueTigress
white collar crimnal
Posted by: sopomike on Mar 31, 2009 8:12 AM   
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i demand she is arrested .wheres that asshole south carolina sherriff when you need him .if it was anybody else they would be in jail .

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100 yrs ago cocaine was completely legal in the US
Posted by: DignityForAll on Mar 31, 2009 8:18 AM   
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You could buy pure cocaine without a prescription from pharmacies. Yet problematic use of cocaine was far less than today.

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War on Drugs is a War on Americans
Posted by: reelectnoone on Mar 31, 2009 8:19 AM   
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The war on drugs is a war waged against our own citizens. We pay ourselves to lock ourselves in prisons leaving those remaining on the outside to pay for it all.

We pay again when, because they are illegal, we get mugged and robbed by someone for money to pay a dealer who will then ship much of the cash to Mexico or Colombia or Peru etc.

Never does the IRS get to tax this money as it drifts away from our shores to build another hacienda for a wealthy drug lord.

People still use the drugs. So sell them the drugs, let them pay taxes and save us the billions we spend trying to lock everyone up. Use a fraction of those saved billions for rehab centers like we already have for alcohol.

No...Congress is just to stupid to see the obvious and will let gangs and thugs go on killing us and each other rather than take the one step that can put an end to the madness.

Already they forgot prohibition.

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Great short article
Posted by: mrxls on Mar 31, 2009 8:48 AM   
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You really hit the important points.

The drug war has been fought at such a terrible cost. I hope the political establishment can find its way to introducing some rationality to the law.

Maybe the drug violence in Mexico and the financial pressures both spending and potential revenue will provide sufficient pain for people to change their views.

Too bad society can't seem to anticipate, to learn "obvious" lessons in advance of massive damage.

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» RE: Kids do not click on this link Posted by: Sister_Lauren
IRONY
Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN on Mar 31, 2009 9:48 AM   
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THIS is what I call "irony"~~

"While walking down the street, with my own vodka buzz on, a range of other thoughts started racing through my head.

Part of me is thinking of the irony."

The very worst and costliest of ALL drugs is alcohol.

Newman, JUSTIFY your duplicity.
C'mon, let's hear it.

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» RE: IRONY Posted by: Sister_Lauren
Murdoch's drones are at it again
Posted by: techcafe on Mar 31, 2009 10:30 AM   
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well, what'dya expect? the New York Post is part of the Rupert Murdoch media empire... you know, the rabidly conservative / right-wing media mogul who also owns Fox 'news'

Murdoch's media drones are constantly on a witch hunt to bring down the Obama administration. The bastards *want* Obama to fail - as they consistently prop-up the Republican Party and pander to their conservative base of right-wing dittoheads.

Rupert Murdoch doesn't give a flying-fuck about what's good for America... he only cares about $$$, just like the other machiavellian sociopaths in the Republican Party.

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» Until you have proof Posted by: aahpat
» What are you smokin', aahpat? Posted by: GuitarBill
» Straw men and red herrings. Posted by: GuitarBill
Whats a little, -----
Posted by: symcokid on Mar 31, 2009 11:59 AM   
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a few meaningless hits of 'coke' amongst friends anyway, a little coke never hurt anybody.

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Have cake /eat too
Posted by: Gaubladt on Mar 31, 2009 12:12 PM   
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We could keep the laws on the books. And, our government could also provide alkaloids or opiates to people willing to go to the trouble of registering as addicts.

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Cocaine: the ALL AMERICAN drug of CORPORATISTS
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Mar 31, 2009 12:40 PM   
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is primarily consumed by American Business 'Human Resources' & makes folks
...moody
...mean
...selfish
...nasty
...egotistical
...vicious
...paranoid
...cut-throat
...remorseless
...predatory

...everything you need to be to 'get ahead', 'take part in the American Dream', be a 'contributing team player' &...

get yourself a Trophy Spouse

whereas pot?
makes you calm, relaxed, contemplative... & less grasping...
patient...
willing to be grateful for what you've got...





perspective, people.


Perspective.

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Ritalin acts on the brain in the same way as Cocaine
Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com on Apr 1, 2009 4:20 PM   
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Both drugs act on the brain by preventing the process of dopamine reuptake .

The only difference is that ritalin is normally taken in pill form, absorbed through the stomach in a slower fashion and with less of a dose.

If you crush up a ritalin pill and snort it, which many young kids do today with ritalin being prescribed so much among young people, you will feel the same effects as if you snorted cocaine.

Why can one drug get you over a decade in prison and the other be legally prescribed if you can convince a doctor you have ADD or ADHD?

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25 years ago I went to lots of parties and clubs and was
Posted by: abusedbypenguins on Apr 1, 2009 5:15 PM   
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offered lots of cocane. Didn't do hardly anything for me. My brother was hooked and went to rehab. Read about LSD in 1965 and decided I wanted nothing to do with it or mushrooms or pills. A nice joint and a glass of brandy is all I want to mellow.

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