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5 of the Most Overrated Legal Highs -- An Attack on Everyday Drugs (and a Few You've Never Heard of)

By Manfred Johnson, AlterNet. Posted February 17, 2009.


Have you ever noticed that a lot of the legal drugs out there -- including the popular ones, like alcohol -- are wildly overrated?
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Have you ever noticed that a lot of the legal drugs out there -- including the popular ones like alcohol -- are wildly overrated? As in, they don't match their reputations, and have negative side effects that are often far stronger than the drug itself?

I take all kinds of drugs, but these five, even though they are perfectly legal in all 50 states, I'm pretty sure I'm never going to touch again.

Alcohol

For good reason people have abandoned much of our old caveman ways of life. If you have, say, a tumor the size of a football in your stomach, you'd rightly turn to a surgeon who could take it out with great precision, and you've got a shot at life afterward. Automatically, we know to laugh out loud, good and proper, at the shaman who would propose to cure us by smearing mouse blood and blueberries on the protruding lump.

Yet alcohol, a Neolithic-era drug, is still very much with us. In 10,000 ways, alcohol is locked into this culture, like granite. We sit around in bars, wasting our precious time and money. We empty out our wallets to buy a handful of vodka bottles on the way to some party guaranteed to degenerate into sentimental babble and mindless groping within a few hours.

Sure, booze gets you nice and sloppy, and it can take you away from your life. But the costs are huge -- a good, solid, drunken state usually costs a person a day of agonizing recovery when you come down. Pour alcohol into the body, and it hits the brain and nervous system in a great way, to be sure, but this crude drug also splashes like Drano all over the rest of the vital organs, sapping them.

All that wasted time, multiplied by the millions of booze guzzlers, every Saturday and Sunday morning-plus-afternoon-plus-sometimes evening, every week for thousands of years. Addiction to alcohol is also usually debilitating -- it typically gets you fired from work very quickly -- and it's the cause of all sorts of morning-after regrets. It makes me sick, just thinking about it.

Wonderful researchers and pharmacologists in clean white coats have come up with all kinds of wonderful things that approximate the sensations that alcohol offers. If you need to overcome your social insecurities to go on the dance floor or go up to a good-looking stranger, try amphetamines -- they'll make you as bubbly and social as any glass of champagne. And speed won't lower your sex standards or make you say something you'll regret for the rest of your life. You'll be in control.

Do you just want to knock yourself out from the grim realities of your existence? Try 100 milligrams of codeine and relax as your nervous system turns into Cloud Nine. To be sure, there's some payback the next day -- but you don't have to worry about the quivering, retching, deep nausea and splitting headaches. Just a little vagueness, and a mild sense of disassociation from your loved ones.

I'll take that trade any day. (Getting a prescription for codeine and amphetamines is a relative breeze: ADHD plus chronic-back-pain complaints will get you a juicy prescription with the visit to the right M.D. -- and you don't even have to seek out a sleazy doctor to do it.)

Apologies to those who love teasing out the rich, subtle weave of flavors like California live oaks, lilacs and whatever else from their $50 bottles of Chardonnay. That's just a sideshow attraction to the effect of the drug; a cultural Band-Aid to conceal the true purpose of why it's sitting on the dinner table -- it's sitting there to get you high, and deep down, we all know it. I don't see any oak-flavored bubble gum for sale.

Nuclear-Powered Coffee Products

I'm not quibbling with caffeine here, just the dosage intake the culture thinks is normal.

At some point, I think in the mid-1990s, the idea of a straightforward, wake-me-up, strong coffee wasn't enough for us -- we went over some kind of caffeine edge, and now we're at a place where millions of us are dumping two or three 16-ounce, tar-thick, TNT-like concoctions down our throats every day, pasting the best brown-toothed smile we can on our faces while we do it.

Hybrid coffee beans unload overwhelming amounts of caffeine into the system. When people take too many painkillers and pass out in a pool of vomit, it's called "tragic overdose." Those rules don't seem to apply with coffee overload, maybe because you can conceal the worst of its effects in the toilet.

Take a look at the people gulping that stuff in Starbucks -- are they really waking up, or are they reeling on the inside? Or maybe it's that they crave that cranky, grumpy mood that comes on about two hours after drinking that Starbucks product. Do we really need a triple espresso? Look at their ashen faces as they leave the place.


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Delightful story!
Posted by: eeuropean2000 on Feb 17, 2009 1:16 AM   
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Thank you to the author for this story, but it does appear from it that he has actually drunk both soapy dishwater and goo from a puddle somewhere, which suggests to me that he has bigger problems than caffeine and Chardonnay. :)))

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» Dude, DON'T diss the shaman Posted by: Smackback
» RE: Dude, DON'T diss the shaman Posted by: maxfactor
DRUG ABUSES STEM FROM THE CASH HUNGER
Posted by: flymulla on Feb 17, 2009 2:32 AM   
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Drug abuses stem from the power hungry pharmaceuticals corporations and politicians. Have you noticed many drugs that are in the market especially made in USA with the note, “These statements have not been evaluated the Food and drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, cure or treat any disease. Not tested on human beings. And these are given over the counter. A sad tale of the USA medical board that wants to make money anyway.
I thank you
Firozali A. Mulla

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» RE: Be ALL that you can be Posted by: That_SOB
Dude, you missed the boat on Kava
Posted by: mrxls on Feb 17, 2009 2:35 AM   
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because doing real Kava paste is no soap fest but an unmistakable entheogenic experience. It doesn't take that much either, like a spoonful or two and stomach aches are not part of the process.

That being said Kava, like some other substances, manages to squeeze about three days worth of energy out of you in a few hours. That can lead to brilliant intensity but it does take some time to reload the next day.

I've done it in Fiji, long slow watered down ritualistic drinking sessions. I had a better time doing a lot at once in Anaheim sans the indigenous culture.

But you're right it's overrated. Like Ram Das said - when you get the message hang up.

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Alcohol and Caffeine Are Drugs- Not Food
Posted by: drricklippin on Feb 17, 2009 2:44 AM   
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Alcohol and caffeine are clearly drugs. Are they dangerous in small amounts? The debates continue.

Of course they are so widely consumed in contemporary western nations that bio-medical science has managed to fund and produce studies that tout their benefits. You would think that red-wine, for example,was the elixer of good health for all.

But no mistake about it.These substances are drugs. If your doctor doesn't know that basic reality -find another doctor.

Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa

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Drugs
Posted by: kepstein7777 on Feb 17, 2009 2:47 AM   
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Except for the weird ones towards the end, which I know nothing about, it seems as though the problem is not the drugs themselves, but the excessive amounts consumed, and the reasons they are taken.

A one-beer buzz after coming in from a hot summer day is very refreshing and relaxing. So is the buzz from one glass of half-decent wine at a party, holiday dinner or wedding...And that burst of ideas in the morning once your first few sips of coffee kick in is kinda cool sometimes.

The article's point seems to be that because we are limited to only handful of legal drugs, we take them in excess to kill the pain of modern life, which is probably true. But that doesn't mean these so-called drugs are bad in themselves.

Like anything else, too much of a good thing is a bad thing. Perhaps our repressive, dysfunctional, alienating culture has caused us to form dysfunctional, immature relationships with fairly harmless substances that have been with us for thousands of years.

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Sativa Divinorum
Posted by: DR. LARRY MITCHELL on Feb 17, 2009 3:27 AM   
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I'm surprised that Sativa didn't make the list,
but then, maybe people have gotten the message and hung up.
I tried it three times, just to be sure, and- even with a colorful pharmacological history behind me- holy Hell came down inside my head.
Never, never again, will I touch that shit.

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Shamanism
Posted by: aonghus36 on Feb 17, 2009 6:37 AM   
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>Automatically, we know to laugh out loud, good and proper, at the shaman who would propose to cure us by smearing mouse blood and blueberries on the protruding lump.

As if the author knows anything about Shamanism...

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the author's views about alcohol are Prohibitionistic
Posted by: Gabba_Gabba_Hey on Feb 17, 2009 6:39 AM   
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The vast majority of people who drink alcohol occasionally have little problem with it. Even many who over-indulge regularly manage to function, keep their jobs indefinitely, etc. despite what this guy declares. If he's a lousy drunk, maybe that's his problem.

He equates any use of alcohol with "addiction," yet tosses in this moronic sentence:

If you need to overcome your social insecurities to go on the dance floor or go up to a good-looking stranger, try amphetamines -- they'll make you as bubbly and social as any glass of champagne.

Yeah, nobody ever gets addicted to amphetamines!

And he recommends just popping a codeine pill for other occasions? No magic & mystery in that, and I see he just doesn't get it. Much of the satisfaction of beer & spirits -- not just wine -- comes from the taste itself (admittedly, better than kava in every case)... the physical act of the slow sipping of it, the slow unfolding of the buzz.

Smoking a joint has similar satisfactions for marijuana fans, who I hope would object if the author were to advocate popping THC pills in order to avoid the lung stress and coughing, and all the germs and cooties from passing joints around.

I think this is supposed (?) to be a humor piece -- and it's actually informative about Rockstar and its connection to Michael Savage -- but in America we should remember our 1919-1933 experience and not get too carried away with Prohibitionistic bullsh*t... and in this case, it's merely idiosyncratic bullsh*t.

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» judicious use of amphetamines Posted by: Tom Tele
Ya missed Tobacco and Chocolate- My Favorites!
Posted by: Purple Girl on Feb 17, 2009 7:22 AM   
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it's ridiculous that we are so concerned about the 'uptick' of Drug use in the US. Humanity has been using drugs since the beginning of time. Pot,coca leaves, sugar...Most have gone through the most extensive longitudinal studies ever conducted and have far less adverse effects than those being pumped into our blood streams by the Pharma's.
Why would you take a med for Depression which could cause you to have suicidal thoughts?
Why would you take a hard On med which could cause blindness or a heart attack. Shit it's been proven mothers old warning about going blind from mastrabation was BS.But now we have pharms creating meds which make it a reality even if your lucky enough to have a partner!
Why would you take a med that could kill you so your Toenails look great- the excitment you could wear toeless pumps at your own funeral?
I am far less concerned with natural occuring 'Drugs' than I am about those poisons they peddle through our Docs.When in fact these meds not only endanger our lives, but create other problems which require yet another one of their meds to resolve.What is the average number of meds Americans are taking on a daily basis now? an Anti Depressant, A Cholestrol reducer, a "Jiggling leg" remedy, A Toe nail beautifier, a Sexual 'enhancer'...Do the Meds in our cabinets now Rival the Credit cards Wallets? We now know Credit cards are killing US, when we we realize so our those meds the Pharm predators are pushing on US?
Eat a Pot Brownie- You'll feel better and Live longer.

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» another legal drug Posted by: bookie
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THE GOLDEN MEAN
Posted by: JPechinski on Feb 17, 2009 7:40 AM   
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This, as all subjects, should be mindful of the golden mean. Absolutely every chemical of benefit becomes poison once abused. (It is scientific fact by the way that alcohol, nicotine and caffeine are all beneficial in moderation physically, spiritually, culturally +)

The very use of the word "Drug" for natural substances is derogatory and I find offensive. But the author in his reducio ad absurdum placed Grapefruit juice in this category too I guess....that makes food drugs too...thus drugs are food?

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tobacco?
Posted by: everythingiseverything on Feb 17, 2009 8:25 AM   
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how did you not include tobacco?

the hypocrisy of tobacco being legal when marijuana is not is one of the strongest arguments for decriminalization, IMO.

(not that you were writing about decrimnalization ... but cigarettes suck AND cause cancer)

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» RE: The truth about tobacco Posted by: jimidee
Don't forget - Christianity is the religion of alcohol
Posted by: grahamhgreen on Feb 17, 2009 8:40 AM   
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Alcohol is the sacred drug of Christians, and the reflection of this can be seen in our somewhat bizarre, inexplicable and violent behavior.

In fact, we now live in a kind of an alcoholic society that values all of the things that you desire when you are drunk, yet few of the sacred things that the natural world offers.

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try amphetamines
Posted by: gandolfshep on Feb 17, 2009 9:26 AM   
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If you need to overcome your social insecurities to go on the dance floor or go up to a good-looking stranger, try amphetamines -- they'll make you as bubbly and social as any glass of champagne. And speed won't lower your sex standards or make you say something you'll regret for the rest of your life. You'll be in control.

Are you out of your mind. Have you no idea that amphetamines are very addictive and the damage thay have done to so many.

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Not to forget formaldehyde, benzene and MSG!
Posted by: stellabloo on Feb 17, 2009 9:29 AM   
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I have abstained from alcohol for 20 years. I wish I could say the same for tobacco, but every now and then I get sucked in by a butt-hacking friend and succumb to the cheap mind-reeling high you get from - formaldehyde and benzene, two omnipresent and legal tobacco additives. Plain tobacco, hand-twisted into a little tobacco reefer, PALES beside the chemical concoction that is the Tailor-Made; the first time my friends taught me to inhale (back in the early 80s) I thought I was having an acid flashback. Also, with the current use of fire-retardant carpets and furniture, one really has to question the use of FLAME ACCELERANTS in a "food" product widely used by the elderly, the intoxicated and the infirm. How many people need to die in house fires before we make the connection?

Another ubiquitous and lethal chemical would be monosodium glutamate. Glutamic acid is a naturally occurring amino acid. In its soluble form, it passes directly through the brain-blood barrier; it causes neurons to fire erratically simulating a sensation of "excitement" in what would otherwise be a crappy synthetic food item. That we are feeding this wholesale to our children is reprehensible - found in almost all flavoured chips, powdered gravies and soup stock, virtually every can of mmmm-mmmm-mmmm Campbell's and many fast food items (ever wondered what the seasoning was in "seasoned chicken tenders"?). At Halloween, I noticed my own children would grab MSG-laced chips over candies EVERY TIME. Aside from adverse health effects, the "excitement" generated by MSG causes the user to overeat without regard for hunger in order to maintain the "high". Australia has banned the use of MSG in foods targeted at children; despite the epidemic of childhood obesity here, the effects of MSG are discussed only on a few fringe websites.

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Just a note on alcohol
Posted by: praedor on Feb 17, 2009 9:44 AM   
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Of the wine variety. It is not only not bad for you in moderation, it is actively good for you, irrespective of getting high. In fact, if you drink enough to get more than just slightly happy/relaxed, you are no longer drinking it "moderately".

Does the author wish to poo-poo the research? Does he wish to claim that "oak-flavored gum" or whatnot could also, by mere virtue of mimicking the flavor of this or that wine, also have the same real-life beneficial effects?

Other versions of alcohol have lessor beneficial effects (in low-to-moderate doses) but there is no question that wine, particularly red wine is actively good for you.

Long life with wine.

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apolitica
Posted by: hooch on Feb 17, 2009 9:55 AM   
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anything that alters our mentation can be considered a "drug" as such...if I need a boost at work, and eat an apple, I get a "buzz"...why would I need these mind altering tasteless mind/mood altering drugs? I am the one who can about once every three years or so drink a LOAD of clean tequila in a long , beach-walking night to the sunrise, along with lots of water, and not get a hangover...but that is, as I indicated, few and far between; and no work the next day...has to be WHAT I AM DOING AT THE TIME SO I CAN REALLY ENJOY IT!!!...And I love CHOCOLATE...the rest I have not heard of...suichuisuchi?????????If I smoke anything, then make it pot...haven't done that in MANY years...robs my brain cells...and where many get munchies, I would get the "exercisies"...strettttttching...then really thirsty for WATER....

...so yes we are all different in our reactions to what we take in bottom line: do the research and see what works for you...I can drink a small amount of real coffee in a lot of warm milk and I have a looooong stretch of pretty productive energy...I can eat a maryjane brownie(again not for years) and go for a whole day on the r e l a x a t i o n it imparts! Lovely!I ate a little peyote button(again not for 30+ years) and truly connected with my animal spirit...I believe it was a lovely Bengal Tiger...This is really a walk down the druggy memory lane(I was mid twenties and that is what many of us did...research the availables)...

Truly spoken by one of the commentators, EVERYTHING should be in moderation...a touch goes a long way...I can take a quarter of a quarter of a quarter of a sominex and it helps shut down my thought processes so I can sleep for the five hours I need to function well the next morning....I can pull out of a "depression" by taking a walk in the woods...it really is all so simple....and we have managed to complicate the hell out of it!

Try being high on life and setting the limits that will keep you IN BALANCE...in your priorities, your intake, whatever is directing you... we cannot change a tornado or earthquake or the ramifications, but we can change the way react to our lives...and the way we experience it!! Cheers!!

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Kava/drugs
Posted by: samba on Feb 17, 2009 1:48 PM   
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Polynesians traditionally prepare Kava by chewing and mixing it with saliva,which activates some of the compounds. They don't chew it themselves ,the host does, in advance.and spits it into the bowl. There are other ways to activate it . Spending a good deal of time chewing and mixing it with saliva before swallowing can make a real difference.
American culture doesn't understand the concept of Optimal which means just right we even call people who exect the best optimists,but maximalists would be more accurate. BTW the glass is half full of water and half full of air,any other way of stating it is b.s.
Optimal dosage of any drug,psychoactive or not is crucial. with correct dosage GHB can be very enjoyable. Too bd it was outlawed as a date rape drug . If it was used fr date rape those who did are really stupid. GHB specifically enhances Tactile sense.It's the best sex enhancing drug,plus the next day one feels,not hung over ,but better,more clear headed. Overdose is definately not fun. Dosage is crucial. Anyone who would rather rape a woman who is passed out than be with a willing partner with energized sense of touch,is not only an asshole,but an idiot Alchohol hs been used for far more date rapes than any other drug,and it hasn't been made illegal on those grounds. The whole thing is absurd.

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Crap, I'm old.
Posted by: Longdream on Feb 17, 2009 2:01 PM   
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I haven't heard of any of this stuff.

I don't even understand why someone would want auditory hallucinations. People take obnoxious meds to get rid of those.

I also have a categoric objection to anything that's so rude I know that a bad barf is going to be part of the experience.

Sorry to be so.....old. I'll go away now.

*shuffles off*

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regarding Kava Kava
Posted by: Cameo on Feb 17, 2009 2:03 PM   
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I love Kava but if what you're looking for is a psychedelic experience, or a really great high, this isn't the substance for you. Kava is like a muscle relaxant. It won't give you visions or make you stupid, but it does relieve muscle tension and gives a floating feeling.

I put a good table spoon or two in a smoothie or poor boiled water over it and strain it (in combination with my favorite tea). I don't think it tastes terrible, but it will numb your tongue temporarily.

I have never noticed any hangover-like symptoms.

I gotta say that this was a fun, yet strange article. I'm not much of a pill popper, so I was curious to hear what the author might recommend in place of the legal drugs he disses. Would have liked more of that...

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Nostalgia Ain't What it Used to Be
Posted by: jmmartin on Feb 17, 2009 3:26 PM   
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Your blog reminded me of the famous Berkley Barb "exclusive" informing readers that the author had found a high much better than the then-vogue "mellow yellow" (dried, ground banana peel): shoving a canned jalapeno pepper up one's unmentionable vessel. I am sure that those who did so thought they'd been "burned," and I doubt seriously they "got off" (unless by that one means getting off the chili).

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apolitica
Posted by: hooch on Feb 17, 2009 5:51 PM   
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LOLOLOL!!! "Crap I'm Old" It's ok; me too and you are right...we are in a whirlwind of drug taking causing side effects, instigating more drug taking and more side effects....the average number of RX meds for a nursing home "victim" is 12...some get as many as 22...seriously wrong!!!!! And I had not heard of a couple of these either...nor about the hot pepper up the WHo-WHo...my goodness what we won't do for a thrill!!...take a drug holiday and see what real life has to offer!!! Cheers!!! =+)...

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Pure Satire
Posted by: kurmudjin on Feb 17, 2009 6:39 PM   
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try amphetamines -- they'll make you as bubbly and social as any glass of champagne. And speed won't lower your sex standards or make you say something you'll regret for the rest of your life. You'll be in control.


Ask anyone who has managed to escape with their sanity and life intact if this statement is true. If this author truly believes what he wrote than we are dealing we someone who needs some education, (perhaps a couple lines of meth would do the trick) otherwise pure satire folks. Relax. But what a waste of time... I have come to be very tired of these "journalistic" masterpieces that alternet insists on giving us. No more BUSH to bash so no more imagination. Aah, for the good old days....

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Kava Tastes Just Like What It Is...
Posted by: WWMD on Feb 17, 2009 7:54 PM   
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it's a member of the black pepper family! If you've ever been around a pepper tree, smelled its sap and its crushed leaves (like when you prune the tree), you will immediately recognize that same odor in kava.

I've found kava extracts mixed with fruit juice to be relatively relaxing, but my current meds make kava superfluous to my healthy mood.

Kava isn't a get-wasted drug like alcohol, pot or cocaine. It isn't even a butt-kicker like caffeine. It's just gives you a pleasant feeling of relaxed calm, nothing more.

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WTF?
Posted by: terzip on Feb 17, 2009 9:35 PM   
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Manfred,
Dude, like smoke a dubie and chill out! Too much anger there. OTC drugs just not doing it for ya?

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» RE: WTF? Posted by: AlteredStates
Combine, combine!
Posted by: peterjkraus on Feb 17, 2009 9:58 PM   
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Very cool. I liked the stuff that lets you see everything in a pleasant shade of yellow. Pop in a couple of those, and throw a full dose of Viagra in, which, as everyone knows, turns everything and everyone blue, a metallic medium shade of blue. Wait until the yellow stuff and the blue stuff combine, and you've got A TOTALLY GREEN WORLD!

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» RE: Combine, combine! Posted by: Longdream
fuck all this shit
Posted by: xmvince on Feb 17, 2009 10:38 PM   
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just smoke the good old green

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allen
Posted by: pursah on Feb 18, 2009 10:36 AM   
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Biggest joke of all--those statements that say "Not Tested by the FDA" placed on various natural products. Fact is the FDA does NOT TEST DRUGS. The drugs are tested by the drug companies that sell them, or by laboratories that are paid by the drug companies to test them. The FDA merely evaluates the tests. Any scientist will tell you that the testors' expectations significantly influence the results of the test. And as we are seeing with the SEC, and all the other Federal agencies, they conservative ethic has either starved the agencies of effectivd staffing or planted their own on the staffs. No body is minding the store!!

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Kava revenge
Posted by: Mahjee on Feb 18, 2009 3:20 PM   
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I wonder how hard the South Sea Islanders are laughing at you. It sounds like you weren't sold Kava at all. There's another root that grows in those parts that's used as soap. :-(
I wonder.
Why would South Sea Islanders do such a thing to an innocent American?
Maybe it has something to do with your carbon footprint. Rising sea levels due to the massive pollution your society creates, ensures that the South Sea Islands won't be islands much longer.

Perhaps it's a not-too-subtle hint that you should clean up your act.

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Alcohol
Posted by: paganpat on Feb 21, 2009 8:14 AM   
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Nicotine is worse for withdral than ANY drug.Heroin,morphine,and other opiates users do NOT usually become addicts or does it necessarily impair normal functioning,unlike alcohol. "How To Legalize Drugs" p.576

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» Nicotine Posted by: billwald
» RE: Alcohol Posted by: aussidawg
High on Writing
Posted by: pathways on Feb 22, 2009 7:28 AM   
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Probably anything can be used to produce a feeling that you are not who you really are. Writing is a good example. But then one has to live with the results. Push anything to the extreme and there will be hangovers and problems for those you love. Alternet can do better than this.

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Manfred Johnson...nailed it! nm
Posted by: jimidee on Feb 23, 2009 6:46 AM   
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nm

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"Why do people take drugs?"
Posted by: smendler on Feb 24, 2009 3:36 AM   
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"... Because they work." - Andrew Weil, FROM CHOCOLATE TO MORPHINE

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dreadful reporting
Posted by: stuarts on Feb 24, 2009 6:35 PM   
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I'm sure I've tried as many drugs as the author and I take great offence, as I assume the author does, when folks deride things like marijuana and don't cite anything but their tragically weak anecdotal references, AS THIS AUTHOR DOES when deriding the legal drugs.

Two wrongs, in drug reporting as in many things, don't make a right.

Sloppy stuff pal. You are not doing any of us any favors.

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» RE: dreadful reporting Posted by: shelle621
Legalize it all
Posted by: mikacct on Mar 1, 2009 9:28 AM   
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If it's legal most people would lose interest. All of us are not addicted to the above chemicals. If illegal drugs were made legal it would be the same. www.nsyfforum.com

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