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Five Ways We Can Build a Movement to Stop This Idiotic War on Drugs

By Tony Newman, AlterNet. Posted January 12, 2009.


This is a time to put big ideas on the table. We have to learn how to coexist with drugs. They aren't going anywhere.
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The United States has spent hundreds of billions of dollars waging its 40-year "war on drugs," responsible for the imprisonment of 500,000 of our fellow American citizens. Despite this enormous waste of money and lives, drugs are as easily available and cheap as ever. The drug-warmongers say it is all for the safety and protection of our children, yet high-schoolers all over the country can easily obtain just about any illegal drug they are seeking in this unregulated market. Half of all high school seniors will have tried marijuana before graduating. The government's latest Monitoring the Future report, released in December, indicates that more young people are now choosing to smoke pot rather than cigarettes.

Despite these disheartening facts, there is reason for optimism and hope. More and more people are joining the movement to end the failed war on drugs. Passionate people in every neighborhood and from every walk of life, liberals and conservatives, are joining this fast-growing movement. Though there are some compelling reasons drugs should remain illegal, we should at least begin an honest discussion about the root causes of the violence and the range of options to deal with the harms associated with prohibition. It is clear that the strategy of the past 40 years is not working. Below are five opportunities to engage our fellow citizens, discuss the enormous challenges we face, and come up with solutions to reduce the harms of both drug misuse and drug prohibition.

1. Drug Prohibition is Creating a Bloodbath Along the U.S.-Mexico Border 

Thanks to the drug war, a bloody war is raging in Mexico right now -- spilling into otherwise low-crime U.S. cities along the border! More than 5,000 Mexicans were killed in 2008 as a direct result of drug prohibition -- more deaths than all the fallen American service members since the Iraq war began. Whole towns and communities are living in fear with no one  -- not politicians, judges, journalists nor pop stars  -- immune from the violence.

Classrooms are half-empty because children are afraid to go to school; decapitated heads are left in the streets; and there are even murders occurring in hospitals, where gunmen go to "complete" the job. Nothing in the coca or marijuana plant causes these deaths. Rather, it is prohibition that creates a profit motive people are willing to kill for. Remember, when alcohol consumption was illegal in this country, we had Al Capone and shootouts in the streets. Today, no one dies over the sale of a beer.

This week, the border town of El Paso, Texas, passed a resolution suggesting an open and honest dialogue on ending drug prohibition. The nonbinding resolution suggested that legalizing drugs in the United States could help curb a volatile and bloody drug war that last year claimed nearly 1,600 lives in Juarez, Mexico, just across the Rio Grande. Arizona Attorney General Terry Goddard said we should consider legalizing marijuana, observing that marijuana sales are responsible for up to 75 percent of the money that cartels use for smuggling other drugs and for combating the army and police in Mexico. Goddard contends these profits could be significantly reduced if marijuana possession were to be legalized.

2. Economic Crisis: We Can No Longer Afford an Ineffective Drug War

States from New York to California and in between are facing billion-dollar budget deficits. Governors and mayors are being forced to cut spending on everything from education to heath care, and are even shutting down popular prevention programs. Fortunately, a win-win solution for governors facing a budget crunch is apparent: Reform the drug laws and offer treatment instead of jail for nonviolent drug offenders. States could save hundreds of millions of dollars by doing away with these wasteful laws that lock up nonviolent people with drug convictions at a hefty price tag of $40,000 per year. We can't afford these ineffective and inhumane laws anymore!

3. Obama and Drugs: Personal and Political

President-elect Barack Obama has been refreshingly honest about his current and past drug use. Obama has been making news recently because of his struggles to give up cigarettes. He has written and talked about his marijuana and cocaine use when he was younger. He has never run from or made excuses about his drug use or habits. Like Obama, tens of millions of Americans have tried marijuana, and so far they seem not to be holding his past drug use against him. Having someone in the White House who continues to grapple with relapses from his nicotine addiction will hopefully create more empathy between the executive branch and others trying to give up drug addictions.


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Prohibition repealed.
Posted by: Artkansas on Jan 12, 2009 1:40 AM   
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As Alcohol prohibition was repealed in the last depression, we can only hope for a further repeal of prohibitions in this depression.

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End the Prohibition
Posted by: jway on Jan 12, 2009 3:41 AM   
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We need to follow the lead set by the El Paso Council and resolve to "encourage the U.S. federal government to start a serious debate on the legalization of drugs".

Our country as a whole needs to know why the logic that led to the repeal of the alcohol prohibition doesn't apply to the marijuana prohibition, and we need to ask ourselves if we're so shallow as to repeal a prohibition that created violent murders in our own country but not repeal one that creates violent murders in a foreign country.

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the problem is that voters think its a real war...
Posted by: Annapurna1 on Jan 12, 2009 7:11 AM   
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unfortunately..the vast majority of voters views the drug war as much more on a par with WW II rather than alcohol prohibition...in their minds..just legalizing marijuana would be like surrendering the west coast to the japanese in 1942.. and legalizing all the drugs would be analogous to a total axis victory...

any effort against the drug war is futile as long as this attitude persists (and 8 years of bu$hcos' bleating "failure is not an option" doesnt help much)...as such..the first step has to be to attack the notion of "drugs" as some kind of existential enemy.. comparable to naziism or soviet communism.. that we are at war with...

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Buying illegal drugs from most current sources supports bloodbaths, torture, rape, etc.
Posted by: aouie01 on Jan 13, 2009 1:58 AM   
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Reason One applies to prohibitors and buyers.

The illegal drug trade is run by some of the most ruthless and mean self-centered people and causes a lot of suffering and misery around the world. Legalizing it would stop (or at least significantly reduce) the mayhem caused by these people. In the mean time, I strongly recommend not supporting them.

Sincerely,
Aouie

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» I Grow My Own Dude - Get a Life & MYOB Posted by: left_libertarian
Don Quixot
Posted by: Don Quixote on Jan 13, 2009 2:17 AM   
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The "war on drugs" is another US government lie with semantic manipulation. It is only the "war on drugs not sold by the pharma-tobacco-alcohol maffia", with a long history of lies, bribes, corruption and extorsion. there are two maffias cometing for the lucrative world market, the legal maffia, protecting its monopoly, and the illegal maffia. The legal maffia bribes and threatens through the corrupt political system of the US ex-democracy just like the illegal maffia.

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So what is your point with your biblical references?
Posted by: paulmagillsmith on Jan 13, 2009 4:32 AM   
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Just for disclosure, I am against basing one's life on a much revised book of questionable authorship.

Just to play your game, though, and to be very specific about, it also says in the first few pages of Genesis that all things on this Earth are here for mankind to use. That message is not ambiguous.

So chocolate & Salami can alter conscious behavior. Chocolate can elevate someone from a depressed state, and salami, with 20 times the triptophan of turkey, can put people to sleep.

I think it is assuming a bit much to conclude if I eat either of these foods, containing mind altering components (drugs), I will become an immoral, sexually perverted sorcerer. Cannibis has been used since long before any religious tract ever written. Does this mean your Bible is responsible for starting the first of the always failed attempts at prohibition?

I have no problem with your reference to the greedy elite causing turmoil worldwide. The question, in relation to the article, is it greed from 'legal' or 'illegal' drug sources? Around a dozen US states list marijuana as their #1 cash crop, and whole foreign countries as well. How much money do 'legal' drug companies rake in, or the hundreds of billions in taxpayer funds for the PIC (Prison Industrial Complex), political campaign contributions, & media advertising?

Just who ARE the greedy in this discussion?

Even more of a brain tease is, "Why would Jesus turn water to wine if he didn't intend people to drink it?"

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» RE: MANS FINAL AUTHORITY Posted by: LeeAnnG
» RE: MANS FINAL AUTHORITY Posted by: Sister_Lauren
RE: THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN
Posted by: Dboy on Jan 13, 2009 7:02 AM   
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I am continually amazed that people still look for answers in religious texts. I know that religion is a powerful force in humans, but it also shows how primitive and lost our species is.

dboy

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» RE: WHAT SPECIES ARE YOU? Posted by: Sister_Lauren
RE: THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN...Religious interpretations
Posted by: picket on Jan 13, 2009 8:13 AM   
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Dwight...I would be interested in what denomination you receive the interpretations from your Bible scripture above?

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» RE: NONE Posted by: picket
Kaneh bosm! Christ and Cannabis!
Posted by: garry minor on Jan 13, 2009 9:44 AM   
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Archaeological evidence shows that mankind has used plants for Spiritual and medicinal purposes from the beginnings of civilization. It is believed that Cannabis was the very first cultivated crop because of its many different uses, fibers, medicines, fuels. Traces of ephedra, opium, mushrooms, and many other plants have also been uncovered at many ancient sights. The Zoroastrian Zend Avesta places cannabis #1 on a list of 10,000 medicinal plants.

Thousands of years before Christ the Sumerians, Egyptians, Chinese, and Hebrews all record many medicinal and Spiritual purposes for cannabis, from curing infections, tumors, and burns, to helping with pregnancy, anxiety, and more. The Egyptians called it Shemshemet, the Sumerians- A.ZAL.LA, The Chinese- Ma, the Persians- Shadanaj, the Hindus- Bhang, the Hebrews- Kaneh bosm.

In 1936 a Polish Anthropologist named Sula Benet discovered that in the original Hebrew text of the Old Testament the word "kaneh bosm" had been translated as calamus by the Greeks when they first rendered the Books in the 3rd century B.C. and then propagated as such in all future translations from the Greek as Hebrew ceased to be a spoken language, not again revived until the 1800's. Benet claimed through substantial research and etymological comparison that the proper translation for "kaneh bosm" is cannabis. In 1980 the Hebrew Institute of Jerusalem confirmed her claim that indeed "kaneh bosm" is cannabis. The Biblical "Canon," which means; to rule, to measure, straight, upright--is also derived from the Hebrew word "Kaneh." Calamus was used by ancient peoples and still today as an aphrodisiac and stimulant, its active ingredient asarone is a precursor for the psychedelic MDMA, ecstasy.

In Exodus 30:23 God instructs Moses to use 250 shekels of "kaneh bosm" in the oil to anoint all Priests, Kings, and Prophets, for all generations to come, including that of Jesus and today as the title Christ/Messiah means literally; covered in oil, Anointed. "Kaneh" is also listed as an incense tree in Song of Songs 4:14. The mistake was repeated in Isaiah 43:24, Jeremiah 6:20, and Ezekiel 27:19. There are 141 references to anointing and 145 for burning incense in the standard Bible.

With this revelation along with the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, Nag Hammadi Library, certain Apocrypha, and a closer examination of the Bible we find that in order to be called worthy of the title "Christian" one must also be anointed with the cannabis oil. Johns baptism of water is incomplete, and any other oil counterfeit. The word antichrist means literally; opposed to or against anointed (read 1 John 2:18-29, James 5:14). In the Bible the Holy Spirit and the "Counselor" of John are synonymous with the anointing(read 1 Samuel 16:13). Jesus came to free the Holy Oil and make Anointed Priests of all those with eyes to see, ears to hear, and hearts to understand.

Cannabis/THC is proven to destroy tumors, promote the growth of brain cells, is a superior inhibitor of the plaque that causes Alzheimers, and safely treats hundreds of diseases. Its seed is the single most nutritionally complete food source on Earth, and anything made from oil, coal, timber, or cotton can be made ecologically friendly with cannabis hemp. Over 25,000 known products.

Our supposedly knowledgable generation has been censored and brainwashed to believe that the most useful plant on the planet is evil. Talk about a curse, The flaming sword!

Drugs are indeed a terrible problem today, the only way to solve it is with the Truth, proper education, and taking the profit out of them. If it sounds impossible, remember, everything is possible with Christ! Get Anointed!
The leaves of the Tree are for the healing of the nations. No longer will there be any curse!

Garry Minor
Columbus Indiana

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RE: Jesus Was A Pot Head
Posted by: left_libertarian on Jan 13, 2009 7:58 PM   
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This is a fact. He loved to get high with the ladies and party all night.

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Mismatch between opening paragraphs and rest of story
Posted by: kenhymes on Jan 13, 2009 4:54 AM   
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I'm very supportive of the overall position of the writer, and the specific points he is making are valid; but the structure of this piece is horrible. He says he's going to present "five opportunities" for changing the debate on drugs, but only one of his five bullet points (Obama's public admissions about drug use) actually is an opportunity. The other four are simply restatements of why the drug war is a bad idea, badly done. Too bad, because it would be really nice if someone had some ideas about getting us out of this stalemate.

Here's one little-discussed idea: bar DA's from running for elective office for some amount of time after being a DA, thus taking away the incentive for them to use drug convictions as a stepping stone to being mayor or state legislator or congressman. Not much, but that's the kind of thing we need to look at: structural inducements to this madness. Police dept. budgets are another area that can be addressed locally - take away the funding model that relies on federal block grants which increase with drug arrests.

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Repeal and Regulate All Drugs
Posted by: garcam123 on Jan 13, 2009 5:31 AM   
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In one fell swoop Obama can change the entire world!
Make them all legal and available for private consumption purchased by the US Government and distributed like alcohol, responsibly.
I would even like to see alcoholic drinks be enhanced with cocaine like they had in the past when Presidents and Religious leaders imbibed and not get s**tfaced.
We need responsible control of all of these substances and remove the money that causes so much suffering and death and we can start building schools instead of prisons!

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Bozoextremist
Posted by: Bozoextremist on Jan 13, 2009 5:39 AM   
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This is one seriously complicated issue. I have no answers on the right course of action. But there is little doubt that the war on drugs has been a complete failure. But what do we do? One safe measure that might be painless would be to abolish all laws pertaining to the growing, possession and sales of marijuana. This would remove most of the profit motive and stigma for at least that single drug. Meth, crack, heroin and some other drugs don't have as easy a solution. Surely we don't want to simply allow the unbridled use of these drugs. Do we?

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» RE: Bozoextremist Posted by: jroth420
» RE: Bozoextremist Posted by: Helen Marshall
Do on to others.......
Posted by: 2thepoint on Jan 13, 2009 6:14 AM   
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It's easy..all drug dealers are given a punishment in accordance with the drug they are pushing..Pot gets you 10 years.. hard drugs get you the death penalty since you are essentially killing your customers.. no parole, no barganing..cut and dry!

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» RE: Do on to others....... Posted by: jroth420
» RE: Do on to others....... Posted by: RadicalRuss
» RE: Do on to others....... Posted by: scared
Oh boy, another article that falls into the "pot frame" trap.
Posted by: maxpayne on Jan 13, 2009 6:50 AM   
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Focus on the industrial uses of the plant and quit calling it a "drug" because it ain't a drug, get it?

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» RE: sacred herb for all man's uses Posted by: Sister_Lauren
A New approach
Posted by: fapper on Jan 13, 2009 6:54 AM   
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Given that convincing people to change the laws has not seemed to work very well another approach is needed. The court system has systematically denied drug offenders a right to a fair trial by handing out lenient sentences for drug offenders that "cooperate" by ratting on someone else or by pleading guilty. This is not constitutional and amounts to a denial of our rights to a trial by jury. It does not seem constitutional to give a 20 year sentence to someone who demands a trial and 4 months to the same offender if he cooperates. We are cooperating with our own persecution. We need to stand up when arrested and plead not guilty and go to trial. Challenge the Judges instructions to the jury that indicate they can not think for themselves. Usually those instructions indicate that a jury may only consider whether the arrestee did the act or not - a simplistic demeaning task in most cases. Actually jurists have the right to vote their conscience whether the arrestee committed the act or not. Give the system a chance to work - go to trial if you are arrested and challenge judges instructions. Institutions that work for fairness in the legal system and reform of drug laws should spend some of the money that is donated to the cause on arrestees that are willing to take this chance. These days a non violent offender may get a sympathetic juror that will vote not guilty. Overnight a change in this paradigm by the arrestees themselves can overwhelm the system and will create change more quickly.

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» RE: A New approach Posted by: Sister_Lauren
Buy the coca and poppy crops, legalize pot
Posted by: sausage on Jan 13, 2009 7:04 AM   
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The absolute easiest and cheapest thing the federal government can do is to become the primary purchaser of the world's coca and opium poppy crops.

The federal government could develop a formula for how much income it takes for a South American coca farmer or an Afghani opium poppy grower, and his extended family, to comfortably live for a year. I sure this would be easy enough, all you'd have to do is ask the growers.

Then the feds could buy up the crop at a price above what the Columbian drug cartels or the Taliban can afford, destroy excess crop and refine the rest for legitimate medicinal purposes. Even if the crop price needed to be inflated yearly, just to stay ahead of the drug cartels or Taliban, it would still be cheaper than military intervention and ineffectual law enforcement programs.

And by legitimate medicinal purposes I include enough heroine and cocaine for the irredeemably addicted. It would be cheaper and more humane if the government "warehoused" junkies in clean and comfortable low-to-no cost housing rather than incarceration in prison.

Marijuana, on the other hand, should be legalized, then commercially sold like wine. There already exist many marijuana varietals with many different potencies, aromatic qualities and flavors. And high-quality marijuana can be grown just about anywhere.

But for gawd's sake keep Big Tobacco's hands off the pot! If marijuana were marketed like cigarettes Big Tobacco would develop low dose THC joints which would accomplish nothing more than low grade addiction and lung disease.

As for chemically inorganic drugs like methamphetamine (crank, meth, speed) and MDMA (ecstacy)...well, I have no ready answer. Perhaps "warehousing" meth addicts is the only answer. Let those addicted to crank do it too their hearts' content until either they die or seek treatment. From a coldly economic viewpoint it would be cheaper for the taxpayer than the current law enforcement, incarceration and rehab model.

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» RE: MY TAKE ON POST Posted by: Timba
But wait...
Posted by: Levon on Jan 13, 2009 7:36 AM   
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if drugs are legalized how are the CIA, the DEA,the ATF and the NSA supposed to fund the their covert operations?! Think, people think!
The entire structure of our intelligence services might collapse and we might stumble upon world peace and social justice and we can't have that.

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» RE: But wait... Posted by: Ndustire
» RE: But wait... Posted by: Sister_Lauren
all WAR is supremely stupid... the drug war is no different
Posted by: techcafe on Jan 13, 2009 8:57 AM   
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the short answer is YES, legalize ALL drugs, because it's much CHEAPER and *actually* effective to offer addiction 'treatment' programs & services to those who find themselves in a situation where they are 'abusing' drugs (or any other substance for that matter - food, alcohol, tobacco, etc); that is to say, the *excessive* use of a substance, to the exclusion of an otherwise healthy & productive lifestyle. there is a big difference b/w USE and ABUSE.

instead of ruining people's lives with criminal records, imposing punishment and over-burdening society with the high costs associated with prohibition in general - it makes infinitely better sense to simply offer FREE addiction treatment to the public, because that is the ONLY way to *effectively & humanely* treat/combat the ill effects of addiction (for ANY kind of substance - food, drugs, pharmaceuticals, whatever). this approach would also take substance abuse/addiction out of the shadows, alleviate the stigma associated with it, and only then, will people be more likely to seek treatment & counselling for their excesses/addictions. this SIMPLE solution would actually WORK for the greater good of society and cost only a fraction of what this insane 'war on drugs' is sucking out of our tax dollars now, and ruining people's lives in the process. drugs are not the problem, they never have been... it's the system itself, and how we're (not) dealing with abuse & addiction - that is the problem.

btw, i cannot stress the words 'substance abuse' enough, because the FACT of the matter is, NOT everyone who uses recreational drugs are 'substance abusers'... in the same way that not all drinkers are alcoholics, or junk food lovers are fat slobs, and so on. MOST people *know their limits* of consumption, whether it be the use of recreational drugs (alcohol, tobacco, marijuana, cocaine, etc) or just binging on some junk food. most of us know when we've had enough and are able to handle our vices, without things spiralling out of control. for others, they may need some HELP with that, in the form of treatment/counselling to help them move on to a better place in their lives.

the prohibition 'industry', aside from being the REAL danger to society, is a utterly corrupt, ineffectual at best, a monumental waste of resources, and in the end, simply criminalizes normal human behaviour and promotes even more organized crime & violence. *anything* that is prohibited will always be exploited by those (criminals) who seek opportunities to profit (massively) from underground/black market sales.

prohibition has NEVER done anything good for society, and it never will. personally, i want the FREEDOM to choose my vices over a denial of my civil liberties and state mandated prohibition. in other words, it's MY body, i'll do whatever the hell i please with it thank you very much... and if it ever becomes necessary for me to seek treatment for substance *abuse*, then so be it.

all WAR is supremely stupid... the drug war is no different

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Disheartening "facts"?
Posted by: DaBear on Jan 13, 2009 9:58 AM   
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Good piece, well said.

However, when I read the lead-off: "The government's latest Monitoring the Future report, released in December, indicates that more young people are now choosing to smoke pot rather than cigarettes."

I couldn't help but have two instant reactions:
1. The US Govt's MFRs are gross propaganda tools and why anyone could ever view them as credible sources is beyond me.
2. I would rather more young people choose pot over cigarettes any day. It's the lesser of the two... and if most voting 'Merkaans can accept the lesser of two evils in their craptasm of a voting scam system, then they should feel fucking fantastic about kids choosing less harmful inhalants than commercial cigs.

Young people never cease to reinforce my belief that they CAN do the right thing more often than the rest of the grup-shitheads give them credit for. But for adult oppression, propaganda, and surveillance, 'Merkaan adolescence would be a breeze. That any of them reach adulthood at all is a miracle that should shame the way adults behave every damned day.

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» in college journalism departments... Posted by: undrgrndgirl
End Prohibition
Posted by: Weirdharold1941 on Jan 13, 2009 10:01 AM   
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End Prohibition is the two words to use.

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"...drugs are as easily available and cheap as ever."
Posted by: Cybershaman on Jan 13, 2009 10:15 AM   
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Um...as far as I can tell the price of pot has increased 1000% since the seventies. Of course, that's just what I hear! You know through the 'grape vine'.

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» if you haven't noticed... Posted by: undrgrndgirl
who has the right to forbid us to grow a plant?
Posted by: Suzon on Jan 13, 2009 10:41 AM   
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In a free country, it wouldn't happen.

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"Idiotic" war on drugs?
Posted by: willymack on Jan 13, 2009 12:30 PM   
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Hardly that. It's a cleverly calculated scam aimed at enriching the coffers of the banks which launder the drug money, and provides money for covert (black) operations worldwide by "intelligence" agencies to infiltrate, subvert, and overthrow foreign governments not willing to go along with our "national interests". Legalizing drugs would pull the rug out from underneath some very rich, ruthless, and powerful criminals, much the same as getting rid of prohibition pretty much put bootleggers out of business.

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i take exception to #2.
Posted by: undrgrndgirl on Jan 13, 2009 2:38 PM   
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the idea that imbiber = abuser = criminal is ludicrous. the idea that everyone "caught" with drugs requires rehab or should be fined is ludicrous...so-called "recreational drugs" should be regulated the SAME way as the caffeine, alcohol or tobacco markets...no one thinks that having a coffee, a cola, a beer or a glass of wine with dinner - even in PUBLIC at a restaurant - is illegal activity...

it saddens me that even drug reformers are caught up in the lie that drug use should continue to be "illegal" or require "intervention" at levels that are inconsistent with the way alcohol use is handled or that being caught out-of-doors with those substances is a reasonable justification of criminal activity or need for intervention.(i can go to walmart and buy a six pack, at some point i will be out in public transporting it)...

yes, some people over indulge and even become addicted or place the public in harms way by operating motor vehicles 'under the influence,' but it has also been shown that the chronically sleep deprived are a danger behind the wheel...i'm not saying we should let everyone get hammered/baked/stoned/cranked or whatever and face no consequences, but responsible imbibers should NOT face the threat of "rehab" or fines just because they imbibe, nor should they face a ticket just for having something in their possession when transporting it from the store to their home...

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It Ain't Rocket Science, Folks
Posted by: drsoft on Jan 13, 2009 4:59 PM   
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I been smokin the good weed for well over 40 years now, and haven't gone nuts yet (a la "Reefer Madness").

There is an absolute contradiction between claims of being a free country on the one hand and on the other hand throwing gulag quantities of people into the bastilles of this country for either consuming or selling a product that God, the Buddha, That Which IS, Whatever, gave us to help get through the profound challenges of being human.

I'm hoping that Obama (with maybe a little nudge) will become an active agent in ending this nearly century long idiocy.

Thanks for listening...

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Let's make a list of crimes. I've got a little list.
Posted by: wolfgangmo on Jan 13, 2009 6:54 PM   
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I've got a little list...

Monsanto Rep - death sentence to be carried out by any farmer who finds one of their thugs on their property.

ADM rep - life in prison growing organic veggies

Cargill rep - sentenced to breath the shit they sell

Big Pharma - all company employees and their families are required to participate in drug trials of their product

Any others?

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As long as we are discussing repealing prohibition...
Posted by: Ndustire on Jan 14, 2009 4:40 AM   
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Lets repeal the prohibitions brought to us by;
FDA and AMA
DEA
ICE and DHS
ATF

On further thought, lets just secede from the US. I would rather be a free citizen of the Republic of Texas. Hopefully there are enough trees to hang those who do not leave the Republic of Texas.

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LET THEM MEDICATE
Posted by: shd1230 on Jan 15, 2009 7:04 AM   
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Reading these posts proves that most of us would rather have legal drugs than illegal ones. Liquor is legal, and alcohol is one of the more harmful drugs. It would harm society much less if those who "need" drugs could buy them reasonably and legally. Society would benefit and money that is wasted on trying to control illegal drugs could be spent on treating addiction in those who want treatment.

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Drug article is a whimper -- not a bang.
Posted by: cyanide on Jan 15, 2009 8:03 AM   
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This article is a whimper when what anti-prohibition forces need is a whole series of bangs. Drug prohibitionists aren't going to listen to any call for the indulgence of human frailties. Their contempt for human frailties is in large part what led them to pass tough drug laws in the first place. What in hell does your writer think they mean when they tell users "Just say 'NO!'"? If they said: "Whatever ails you, just suck it up," they couldn't be any plainer.

Your writer might try taking note of the fact that prohibition forces' move to "get tougher" along the border will lead (are in fact intended to lead) to a declaration of martial law. Some of those whose contempt for the civil liberties of others is obvious nevertheless cherish their OWN civil liberties. Such people may hesitate to pursue prohibition-as-policy if they're effectively shown that prohibition-as-policy will lead to an end of their own constitutional rights. But they are NOT going to listen to anyone who bleats like a sheep for a merciful indulgence of glaucoma patients.

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Medical Marijuana
Posted by: gellero1 on Jan 17, 2009 7:33 PM   
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the back door is the best way to subvert the system. Should seem obvious.
The direct approach will NEVER work. You know why.

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real dope
Posted by: paganpat on Jan 17, 2009 7:57 PM   
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Here is the real dope= " HOW TO LEGALIZE DRUGS" BY JEFFERSON M. FISH I998. 675 pages. Great stuff even today. About great scholars with valuable debates on how to handle the madness of the drug war.You will learn much.

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Five convenient opportunities
Posted by: Malkavian on Jan 18, 2009 4:02 AM   
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Those five points look more like opportunities almost all of which have come about by chance.

Certainly each and every one of them can be helpful, but are they really so central to the whole drug policy reform issue that a movement can be built upon them? In my opinion they're not.

The core issue is prejudice not unlike that faced by blacks during US apartheid or homosexuals in the same period of time.

#3 can help some because if Obama has the guts he can help normalize the way we talk about drugs. However, the movement must be built upon a deep seated desire to treat all drugs equal in a discussion. It's about giving a drug a fair trial.

#5 is certainly true, but it sorta misses the point from a civil liberties point of view. It's not so bad to throw criminals behind bars, but it's very bad to subject people to seizure and forfeiture, fines, incarceration and who knows what humiliation when that person OUGHT to be considered innocent of any crime. Smoking a joint is not a "malum in se" offense, ie. it isn't "bad in itself". Drug users simply as a rule do not harm others. Drug laws are "malum in prohibitum" - "wrong because it's illegal" - so it's wrong to smoke a joint (or take any other drug for that matter) because the law says so, not because it's universally bad.

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THE FIRST HARD LIQUOR I EVER DRANK CAME FROM A BOOTLEGGER. FINALLY
Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Jan 18, 2009 8:02 PM   
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we got around and fixed that. We still have alcoholics. I lose a friend every so often to alcoholism. We don't encourage it. We seem unable to avoid it.

We must do the same for our illicit drugs. I have known ex-bootleggers that side stepped into drug dealing. It always was profitable. It is time it was stopped.

When you have a law that cannot be enforced you must stop trying. Number one you are making a fool out of yourself. Number two you are creating disrespect for the law. You are creating opportunities for differential enforcement of the law. The poor and the weak go to jail for drug charges. The wealthy and powerful never do.

For this reason alone drug legalization is justified. The whole class of "victimless crimes" needs to be revisited. Kindness and generosity are not a crime. What is holding us up?

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National security
Posted by: aahpat on Jan 25, 2009 8:05 AM   
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The biggest reason to end the war on drugs is that it is the biggest national security threat the U.S. and free world face. It is the major funding source for stateless terrorist armies around the world, including providing 70% of the funding that the Taliban sues to buy bullets and bombs to direct at American forces in Afghanistan.

I have started a new blog to concentrate exclusively on how the war on drugs contributes to the threat of global terrorism and the anarchy of crime on American streets. Aid & comfort

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