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Could Obama's Pro-Marijuana Commerce Secretary Spell a Golden Era for Pot Reform?

By Scott Thill, AlterNet. Posted December 18, 2008.


Bill Richardson believes we need to "rethink and decriminalize" our cannabis laws. Now that he's in office, he has the chance to achieve it.
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December has been an interesting month for marijuana, or cannabis as it is known to scientists and all too few others. To kick off the month, the U.S. Supreme Court decided against reviewing a California state appellate court ruling arguing that its medical marijuana law trumped federal law. That, in effect, set the stage for better implementation of medical-marijuana law in not just California, but every state that has one, while also reminding local police that the job of enforcing federal drug policy is, in fact, not its job. 

Two days later, the oldest stash of cannabis ever found was unearthed from a 2,700-year-old grave in the Gobi desert, aptly reminding humankind and its ass-backwards politicians that pot has been around a lot longer than lobbyists. If the eye-candy archaeological slideshow didn't fully illustrate the value of such a stash, the scientists did. 

"As with other grave goods, it was traditional to place items needed for the afterlife in the tomb with the departed," explained Ethan Russo, lead author of the Journal of Experimental Botany paper that announced the find. 

But as readers pondered packing their own trusty pot for use in the afterlife, better news broke on the same day: President-elect Barack Obama nominated New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson to his Cabinet as secretary of commerce. Given that Obama had already confessed to inhaling -- "that was the point," he classically cracked -- and once declared the hyperbolically named War on Drugs "an utter failure," adding that America needed to "rethink and decriminalize" American cannabis laws, Richardson's nomination to Commerce was cause for celebration. After all, Richardson signed a bill in 2007 making New Mexico the 12th state to legalize medical marijuana.

"So what if it's risky? It's the right thing to do," he said of his decision. "My God, let's be reasonable."

Reason is indeed what proponents of decriminalization have been crying for after four consecutive presidential terms derailed their hopes and maneuvers for legalized cannabis, medical and otherwise. But something has always stood in the way of that inevitability, and it has usually leaned quite heavily on the U.S. Constitution's Commerce Clause, which states that Congress has the right to regulate commerce between the United States and other nations, as well as between its own states. It remains the most widely interpreted clause in the Constitution and has been more abused than the American people's goodwill. In the landmark case Gonzales v. Raich, the U.S. Supreme Court, under the distracted leadership of Justice Antonin Scalia, sided with the Bush administration's argument that banning the homegrown cultivation and consumption of marijuana is a federal imperative, even when no cannabis changes hands or travels across state lines. The lunacy of the ruling even threw rightward justices like Clarence Thomas, Jr. off their creaking rockers. 

"Certainly no evidence from the founding suggests that 'commerce' included the mere possession of a good or some personal activity that did not involve trade or exchange for value. In the early days of the Republic, it would have been unthinkable that Congress could prohibit the local cultivation, possession and consumption of marijuana … Respondents Diane Monson and Angel Raich use marijuana that has never been bought or sold, that has never crossed state lines, and that has had no demonstrable effect on the national market for marijuana. If Congress can regulate this under the Commerce Clause, then it can regulate virtually anything -- and the Federal Government is no longer one of limited and enumerated powers."

Thomas is right, but a mostly Democratic Congress and Richardson offer the best chance in years to right this conundrum. With Richardson at Commerce, and Congress on the hunt for new sources of green, environmental and financial, during a time of deep economic recession, the launch window for legalization has never been wider… 

"Richardson was a strong champion for legal access to medical marijuana," explains Reena Szczepanski, director of New Mexico's chapter of the Drug Policy Alliance. "In his role at the Commerce Department, he may be well-positioned to examine the economic contributions of the medical cannabis sector to the economy in states that have medical cannabis laws." 


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Scott Thill runs the online mag Morphizm.com. His writing has appeared on Salon, XLR8R, All Music Guide, Wired and others.

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I HAVEN'T EVEN READ THIS YET, BUT I HOPE SO!!!!!
Posted by: mindtrvlr on Dec 18, 2008 1:17 AM   
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Now I'll start reading, while I fire up one.

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» Puff, Puff, pass Posted by: Inlander
One small detail
Posted by: PJT on Dec 18, 2008 1:45 AM   
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Even though I stopped smoking dope thirty five years ago and value a clear head over everything, and prize and keep every precious brain cell, I am sympathetic. But you forget one thing: the prison industry. HALF of all male inmates in federal prisons are drug offenders, and I don't know what the statistic for state prisons is but it has to be comparable. Didn't you hear the report yesterday morning on NPR about how the prisons in upstate NY have to close because of a devastating drop in crime? Sorry, but there are tens of thousands of Americans and some extremely rich and powerful ones who make a living on the care and feeding of docile, clueless dopers like you all. Growing pot "for your own use"? Don't plan to sell any? Don't own a gun? Own your own house and car? You are a gold mine for the feds and the local carabinieri. Here is my prediction: dope smoking will NEVER be legal in the US, posession will NEVER be decriminalized, and casual users will ALWAYS live in fear of arrest, because you are just too easy, and there are too many hard working prison guards and entrepreneurial prison owners (not to speak of the construction companies) who depend on you.

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» RE: One small detail Posted by: jimidee
» The private prison lobby Posted by: Bliss Doubt
» RE: One small detail Posted by: zizizzi
» One not so small detail Posted by: undrgrndgirl
Richardson Has to Be Confirmed FIRST
Posted by: mtatasmith on Dec 18, 2008 3:52 AM   
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Lets not count our chickens before they hatch.
Bringing too much attention to this before this confirmation risks confirmation at all.
Let's shut up, shall we? Zip it. :|

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» Three little birds Posted by: zizizzi
Make a loud noise and they will hear you!
Posted by: jway on Dec 18, 2008 4:02 AM   
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It's only a matter of time before the federal marijuana prohibition is ended, but that doesn't mean we should sit around and wait for it to happen.

We've waited seventy years for the prohibition to end, we watch while 2,000 of our people are arrested every *day* for nothing more than possessing the dried flowers of a plant, we've seen the Cartels murder and dismember more than 5,000 innocent people so far this year alone. The prohibition is too costly for us to sit around and wait for it to end!

Now is the time to contact every politician, every church group, every social organization and get them talking about marijuana. Take away their fear of mentioning the "M" word and make them see how the prohibition is harming *them*.

Silence is our Enemy!!

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Weed Screed
Posted by: Tom Degan on Dec 18, 2008 4:05 AM   
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Forgive me for sounding like a broken record. I've made this point so many times before that I am starting to get repetitve. It must be repeated:

I turned fifty on August 16 (me and Madonna, both). By the time one gets to be our age, one has known - at the very least - two-hundred people who have died as a result of too much alcohol and too much nicotine. Now ask yourself the following question:

How many people have I known in my life who have kicked the bucket as a result of too much grass?

Not only have I never known anyone to die that way, I am not aware of it happening in all recorded human history.

Think about it.

Senator Caroline Kennedy?

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY

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» RE: Weed Screed Posted by: Shehova
» RE: Weed Screed Posted by: tvaspen
» RE: Weed Screed Posted by: CaliJim
A better world
Posted by: mrmaple on Dec 18, 2008 4:17 AM   
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If (and only if) cannabis were decriminalized to the extent that growers wouldn't fear prosecution, and could be taxed, the world would be a better place.

I believe that the men and women that make up the police forces would be held in higher regard when the laws they're require to enforce are laws that the public agrees with.

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» RE: A better world Posted by: Lauren
It was legal 100 years ago!
Posted by: garry minor on Dec 18, 2008 6:46 AM   
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Few people realize that Cannabis tinctures, fluid extracts, and buds were the most commonly used medicines throughout the 1700-1800's. There were approximately 20 traditional medicinal uses of cannabis in "Western" medicine from the mid 19th to the early 20th century. Some of the makers and providers were Parke Davis, Eli Lilly, Merck, Squibb, Apex/Frederick Stearns, Evans, SharpeDohme, Frosst, Bickford, Willow, BoerickeTafel, Mulford, and Merrell.
The Truth is that the medicinal history of cannabis was deleted from the National Formulary and U.S. Pharmacopia in 1941 in order for it to qualify as a schedule 1 drug.
So, not only have the American people been censored of the many uses of Industrial hemp that will eventually save our environment, but we have also been robbed of the cheapest, safest, most effective medicine on Earth that will make health care affordable for everyone. Kaneh bosm, Cannabis, Hemp!
We as a Nation have been censored of the historical value of this resource and instead been taught to believe that the most beneficial plant to mankind for thousands of years is evil, sadly, many people still believe it today! Read a few of the comments above.
If it is so evil, then why in Exodus 30:23 did God have Moses put 250 shekels of it in the oil to anoint all his Priests, Kings, and Prophets, for all generations to come, including that of Jesus and even today, as the title Christ/Messiah means literally; covered in oil, Anointed. Why is it listed as an incense tree in Song of Songs 4:14. Why does God ask for it in Isaiah 43:24, refuse it in Jeremiah 6:20, and name it as a bartering material in Ezekiel 27:19?
THC cures cancer, promotes the growth of brain cells, is a superior inhibitor of the plaque that causes Alzheimers, and safely treats hundreds of diseases people suffer from today. It's seed is the single most nutritionally complete food source on Earth, and anything made from oil, coal, timber, or cotton, over 25,000 Earth friendly products, can be made with it!

www.new-territory.net/cann_uses.txt
www.antiquecannabisbook.com/chap4/tincture.htm

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» RE: Right! Posted by: Cybershaman
RE: Pot
Posted by: pelican beak on Dec 18, 2008 6:50 AM   
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Re: "I mean really, a little pot never hurt anyone now did it?"

I once dropped a cooking pot on my foot, and that hurt.
The pot some people carry around as a big belly has sometimes harmed them.
People with big butts might be unhappy if their shitting pot is too little.
Poker is less exciting if the pot is small.

But those are the only kinds of pot I've ever known to be problematic.

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» RE: Pot Posted by: Cybershaman
the FBI put out pot and acid in the 60s in mind control experiments
Posted by: texasrodeoqueen on Dec 18, 2008 6:23 PM   
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in Haight Ashbury Apparently the dope backfired and the kids became antigovernment and antiwar so the feds made it illegal
Watch the History Channel's "History of the War on Drugs" ITS INSANE for pot to be illegal.

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Relegalize
Posted by: indyskywolf on Dec 18, 2008 5:50 AM   
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There have been few public policies that are more stupid than those against Marijuana.

Here we have a plant that will house you, heal you, feed you, clothe you, power you and help you to enjoy life. At it's illegal. There is no more versatile plant on this planet. For it to be illegal is extremely stupid.

Let's hope Obama changes his tune. If he listens to Bill Richardson, he might.

Skywolf

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» RE: elegalize Posted by: dadanbetty
Shirl
Posted by: toots on Dec 18, 2008 6:25 AM   
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In WA state, medical mar is legal, but they are harrassed by the police about how much they have grown and mar is taken and these poor sick people are without it until a new crop is grown, which sends them out on the street to get it illegally.
There has to be a better way, we need to legalize it, PUT A TAX ON IT, AND ANYONE WHO IS CAUGHT MISUSEING IT, WILL BE DEALT WITH JUST LIKE DRUNK DRIVERS.
As long as the Drug Companies are in charge, it will not be llegalized

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» Stop talking about taxing it! Posted by: Inlander
» RE: Stop talking about taxing it! Posted by: pjnaltykins
Retired aging hippie
Posted by: Kracke on Kauai on Dec 18, 2008 6:31 AM   
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Hooray! Could this be the age of reason? I don't enjoy feeling like a criminal when I purchase and/or smoke a little weed and hope that I live to enjoy a little libation without the sword of Damocles having over my head.

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» 10.4 Posted by: mtatasmith
» RE: Retired aging hippie Posted by: WireHedd
There is no future reason for the DEA to exist.
Posted by: xvictor on Dec 18, 2008 6:41 AM   
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I hope Bill Richardson is confirmed as commerce secretary and he gets to wield his positive influence regarding marijuana. The result of which begs the question: why would we need the DEA? Most of the justification of their existence is hauling marijuana smokers to court. Eliminate the DEA and gov't stands to save a lot of money. This has a nice ripple effect on states as well. Hundreds of millions of dollars are presently spent by state and local sections on drug busting concerns. They no longer would need to spend that money. The resources utilized by other law enforcement agencies would be best spent on other matters. And that's just for starters.

After which, of course, simple economics takes over. Heroin and coke, for example, may proliferate at first after becoming legal. But prices for those products must come down to compete with other dealers. Eventually, a shakeout will occur because the profit margin is just too small for many to stay in business. and just a few dealers remain. The result is that supply will dwindle, naturally.

Sometimes just enacting simple things earns great rewards. Change, Obama, change.

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» RE: If... Posted by: Cybershaman
» RE: If...Ron Paul had to Posted by: SamFox
» RE: If...Ron Paul had to Posted by: Cybershaman
» RE: If...Ron Paul had to Posted by: rsteeb
Power In Numbers
Posted by: scared on Dec 18, 2008 6:59 AM   
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I think the last estimate I read said something like 100 million people have used marijuana at one time or another in this country. That is a huge number.

Even if say 1/10 of those people collectively turned themselves in for violating marijuana laws at some point in their lives law enforcement would be so overwhelmed they wouldn't know what to do with themselves.

I'm not saying that's the best approach. My point is that the power is in the numbers. I believe pot legalization advocates are a silent majority. If we could just get people to look past their fear of going public, pot prohibition would fizzle. Speak out about it. There's no reason to stay silent. There's a dozen arguments against pot prohibition you can make without ever sounding like you've even used the drug.

It'll be a priority when we make it one.

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» RE: Power In Numbers Posted by: Red Green
» RE: Power In Numbers Posted by: Lauren
» RE: Power In Numbers Posted by: Cybershaman
immigration victims of the drug war
Posted by: marchpet on Dec 18, 2008 7:14 AM   
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"Penalties include probation and mandatory drug testing; loss of employment; loss of child custody; removal from subsidized housing; asset forfeiture; loss of student aid; loss of voting privileges; loss of adoption rights; and loss of certain federal welfare benefits, such as food stamps."

One penalty missed out in this article is the Justice Department's life-long ban on immigrating to the US for those convicted of minor drug possession charges. This life-time exclusion does not apply to many violent crimes, which qualify for a waiver after 15 years.

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Mr. Obama, TEAR DOWN THIS CANNABIS PROHIBITION WALL AND PUT BIG OIL IN THE HURT LOCKER !!
Posted by: maxpayne on Dec 18, 2008 7:16 AM   
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And I really mean it ! It's time to stop allowing Big Gubbmint to forbid the right of people to grow their own hempseed oil all the while allowing the elites in the Middle East to povertize and terrorize their citizens and us. America, it's time to give the House of Saud the DEATH PENALTY and legalizing INDUSTRIAL HEMP will lead the way ! Just ask Ron Paul !!

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Change can happen swiftly
Posted by: ken_sailor on Dec 18, 2008 7:28 AM   
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Considering that prohibition of any drug has never been shown to reduce the harm caused by the drug, prohibition is a marvel of human stupidity.

Caveman Og don't like drugs. Caveman Og banish drugs! Yeah, right.

Never have so many illicit drugs been available to so many people. Marijuana is just the most obvious.

Stop the drug war now.

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Ivan
Posted by: sawdust on Dec 18, 2008 7:46 AM   
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None of these guys are "in office" yet, and if you believe, even for a minute, that they will overhaul or modify or alter this country's puritanical, right-wing, myopic stance on MJ, or that the congress will even THINK about it very soon, you have already smoked too much of it, yourself.

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» RE: Ivan Posted by: Lauren
Where do I start?
Posted by: bcainw on Dec 18, 2008 8:10 AM   
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First of all it is worth noting that Alternet gets a lot of its funding from the Ford Foundation which is both for Globalization and against Marijuana legalization.

Next let us consider Obama's responce to the Marijuana question at www.change.gov:

Q: "Will you consider legalizing marijuana so that the government can regulate it, tax it, put age limits on it, and create millions of new jobs and create a billion dollar industry right here in the U.S.?" S. Man, Denton

A: President-elect Obama is not in favor of the legalization of marijuana.
http://change.gov/newsroom/blog/

Get it? He isn't going to do crap about legalizing Marijuana even though:

(1) It would destroy the Mexican Drug Cartels and local drug gangs.
(2) It would provide some counterbalance to the liberties lost through the Patriot Act and other legilsation that recieve bi-partisan support.

It gets even worse. The Marijuan Re-Legalization issue recieved the most votes on the www.change.gov website. So they have obfuscated the fact by rearranging the web to hide it. I suppose we can expect a lot more of this in the coming years?

My prediction is that Obama's ratings are going to nosedive as the American People begin to understand that he is a Globalist in sheeps clothing. And the Globalists also don't want Marijuana legalized. Just look at the UN's position on Marijuana Legalization to get a slight clue as to the current reality. The UN has been in constant opposition to Re-Legalization.

So it is up to us . . . the American People. These groups like NORML, DPA, MPP are not going to be of much help by the way. They are only interested in incremental reforms that often backfire (e.g., Medical Marijuana). Yet there is no objective reason why Marijuana should be illegal. For starters it is far less dangerous that many Rx drugs, far less dangerous than alcohol and certainly far less dangerous that tobacco that kills nearly 420,000 Americans each year.

The answer is the MERP Model for Re-Legalization. Essentially this model will make Marijuana legal to grow just like beer is legal to brew. I encourage you to write DPA, MPP and NORML and tell them "I want my MERP, and I want it now. So either help us or get out of the way."

Here is more on the MERP Model for Re-Legalization

Marijuana: Past, Present and Future from Bruce Cain on Vimeo.
www.vimeo.com/2056650

Why Lou Dobbs Should Support Marijuana Legalization
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VKf5YfQb7s&

The MERP Project
The Marijuana Re-Legalization Policy (MRP) Project

www.newagecitizen.com/ReLegalization01.htm
www.newagecitizen.com/editorial_on_the_marijuana_re.htm

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Ah there’s the rub
Posted by: solrev on Dec 18, 2008 8:17 AM   
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"That we spend billions every year in futile efforts to eradicate America's No. 1 cash crop, a drug markedly less harmful than alcohol, is insane,"

The congress does not represent we the people. The alcohol lobbies have too much money compared to the cash crop lobby, end of story. Congress can control who gets the billions being spent and black market home grown money still ends up in the economy, so why rock the boat?

I made a lot of money betting Obama would win the presidency, because I made the bet when no one else would. I am betting right now that Obama will not be reelected in 2012. Obama’s bale out bubble will crash and burn long before 2012. The bale out will be just another congressional money laundering scheme, and that is a real tragedy. The money could actually accomplish something. They will set America back for another generation. Anyone want to bet I am wrong? As long as Americans keep playing the same old game and expect a different result there will be no “We the people”. You young people should start your own party the National American Party (NAP), and do not get caught sleeping.
Define “We the people”, it is right there in the Declaration of Independence and the Preamble to the Constitution in black and white, the Constitution itself is just procedure. We hippies tuned in and dropped out and we could not survive. You need to tune in and drop in. If you think Obama is change you have been fooled. Obama is a shill to keep the natives from getting restless. ADM lobbied to ban sugar imports to sell corn syrup. ADM lobbied to ban ethanol imports and an ethanol requirement and got a 50-cent government hand out to produce ethanol. Illinois is the home of ADM and the second biggest corn producer in the country, change I doubt it. Nothing will change until the people do. So don’t Bogart that joint.

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» RE: Ah there’s the rub Posted by: phillydrifter
poppyphil
Posted by: poppaphil2007 on Dec 18, 2008 8:29 AM   
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let us not forget that we are in historically bad economic straights. and that the prosecuation of the failed drug war costs U.S. taxpayers over $40 billion a year. Add to that the cost of incarcerating and/or processing 800,000 pot offenders every year, add the financial devastation of lost work time, lost student aid, and one begins to comprehend how much the (specifically) war against marijuana actually costs the country.
No one wants across-the-board legalization of all street drugs. But the time for legalization and taxation of marijuana has come due. By some estimates, legalization would stimulate the economy to the tune of $15-20 billion/year.
Let's hear some new, fresh thinking about our failed war on pot.

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Cruel and unusual punishment.
Posted by: colinmeister on Dec 18, 2008 8:32 AM   
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"[a]nd loss of certain federal welfare benefits, such as food stamps."

Surely to a stoner this would be cruel and unusual?

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» RE: Cruel and unusual punishment. Posted by: pjnaltykins
How stupid are you Obama supporters????
Posted by: sonofloud on Dec 18, 2008 9:19 AM   
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It is clear from Leiberman to FISA to repealing Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy to using Rick Warren.....Obama is not the moderate he claimed to be.
Let's just call the next 4 year Bush Dark.

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» How racist are you? Posted by: Fencerider
weed over greed
Posted by: jon B on Dec 18, 2008 9:31 AM   
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They should legalize pot immediately. Why? To get us to forget about how screwed we are by the economy. At least we would be able to get high and forget our problems.

Wall Street gets its' high from greed, I'll take mine from a weed.

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» RE: weed over greed Posted by: Lauren
» send them to Wall Street Posted by: jon B
California vs Feds
Posted by: EinMD on Dec 18, 2008 11:50 AM   
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Not sure I understand what's going on there.

The Feds are constitutionally empowered to regulate interstate commerce. If the Pot isn't leaving the state how precisely do the Feds have any right what so ever to tell people in the state of California anything over the laws of the State of California.

I mean other than the fact that GWB has decided to turn us into his own personal dictatorship over the last eight years. But this shit predates him.

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CALLING ALL ACTIVISTS & UNDECIDED ABOUT MMJ
Posted by: SamFox on Dec 18, 2008 11:58 AM   
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Here is a video that is must see.

http://blip.tv/file/1356143/

Packs a lot of good info into an hr. & 45 min. Very informative!!

Here is a mind blower IMO & shows a hint of why medical marijuana is outlawed-

http://tinyurl.com/4m6uhg

Also if you can find it, the DVD 'Grass' narrated by Woody H. I got to watch it as I am signed up with NetFlix. It may also available at yer video store.

People need to do their research & not keep listening to MSM & their Reefer Madness propaganda.

Have a good time!!

SamFox

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Could Obama's Pro-M...
Posted by: Elmowilcox on Dec 18, 2008 3:08 PM   
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Could Obama's Anti-Marijuana ATTORNEY GENERAL Spell a Grim Era for Pot Reform?
Posted by: Auk on Dec 18, 2008 3:22 PM   
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That would be a more appropriate story. What the f*ck can a Commerce Secretary do about marijuana? - not much!

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i dont get why its illegal
Posted by: queerunity on Dec 18, 2008 4:49 PM   
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its less dangerous than alcohol
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Another Pipe Dream on AlterNet
Posted by: tony12000 on Dec 18, 2008 5:55 PM   
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Sorry - not gonna happen.....

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Eliminate fear and paranoian from our culture, the rest follows
Posted by: socrates2 on Dec 19, 2008 8:26 AM   
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Several writers, from pjt to Tony 12000 make their points.
We have to change another culture or worldview in our midst, that of the prison-industrial complex and its economic ideologues. These people foster fear and paranoia and then set themselves up as the remedy!
All fear-based ideologies have their oppressively costly, tax-supported remedies. Anti-communism and its attendant "red scare" gave us the-trillions-for-defense-not-a-penny- for-tribute wasteful Cold War expenditures. This paranoia has saddled us with our version of the Frankenstein monster, The Military-Industrial complex. The M-I complex is not about to "go gently into that good night," despite the fall of the Berlin Wall, despite the implosion and collapse of our bete noir, the Soviet Union. The hoped for peace dividend never materialized. Too many people were and are sucking at the (oh, ironies!) highly-addictive MI tit and won't let go till you pry them off from their cold, dead lips.
Similarly, Bechtel and other engineering/construction giants and the cottage employment industry, the Correctional Officers union, who love to build and maintain costly prisons over our fair land will certainly never agree to any legislation that affects their pocketbooks. That's the Prison-Industrial complex. It breeds and grows off the "fear of crime and violence." But, in the mai, it ends up locking away drug users and corner retailers.
When it comes to preserving ones way of life, sucking off the taxpayer tit, extremism is no vice. And the extremes that the PI will go to hang on to our taxes have been on display since the early-1930's.
Lobbying and electing our legislators for one.
How many Bechtelites were in Reagan's inner circle?
It's the emotional virus of _fear and paranoia_ in our culture that permits these parasitic industries to grow and thrive, not the legislators and demagogues who exploit it for fun, profit and power.
"The flaw is not in our stars, but in ourselves..."

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THANK YOU Sam Fox - For Posting The Link To The Blip TV British Columbia Movie
Posted by: opmoc on Dec 19, 2008 11:23 AM   
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Can I Try Some?

Look I used to dope in the Early 80's - but completely gave it up when the British Fascist Police Smashed Stonehenge To Fuck in 1985

I gave it up for 20 Years

And then a friend of mine gave me some at a party - I think it was his 40th

And it not only completely blew him away - it blew me away as well

So we phoned him up the next morning - saying are you O.K.?

He said Fit as a Fiddle

And I thought

Well if I had done that on alcohol - I would have been ill for days - and it might have even killed me through alcohol poisoning

So I have started again and I find that as I get older it reduces the physical effect of my muscular disease myatonia congentia so much that the vast majority of my friends think I am completely normal and have no muscular disease whatsoever

However - they all KNOW I am a bit mad - but completely HARMLESS

Tony

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Don't count the chickens...
Posted by: VickyinSD on Dec 19, 2008 11:54 AM   
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As I write, San Diego County local police & sheriff agencies, in cooperation with the DA's office and probably the DEA, are closing and confiscating all inventory at smoke shops, possibly county wide.

I'm not talking about dispensaries... they've ALREADY closed the few we had around. These are the stores that sell pipes, bongs, bubblers, papers, etc. One was "raided" and closed in Escondido only yesterday, with the word being that they'd already hit a couple others in the area before that one.

There are definitely "pockets of resistance" that, even though voters OK'd prop. 215 years ago, are still fighting the state law. What would induce them to change their attitudes in the future if they can't abide by state law now?

I've got research to do yet, so that's all I know about it right now. But obviously the "WAR" isn't even close to over in San Diego County. If it weren't for my grand daughters, I'd have been outta this anal fucking place years ago!

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Smoking kills! (don't much matter what it is.....)
Posted by: RickW on Dec 19, 2008 10:06 PM   
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But the big thing is the 25,000 (or more) products - medicinal, industrial, consumable, that HEMP can provide, that are superior in just about every way to those products we use now.

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drunk or stoned?
Posted by: samosamo on Dec 22, 2008 12:30 PM   
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I have bartended and if I were to be around someone that is high, I would much rather it be a pot smoker instead of a drinker. I have seen many more drinkers go beserk and violent than people that are smoking pot.
Legalizing it would be logical and rational so that is why is won't be legalized here in america anytime soon, especially with the bible thumping people that know more about how you should act and live that you yourself.

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In colonial & War of Independence days...
Posted by: adempatriot on Dec 23, 2008 10:32 AM   
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According to my reading- and I don't have the source available- in the late 1700's not only was cannabis legal, it was required that farmers grow it. The reason was that rope was needed for ships (and other similar purposes), because hemp is the best and strongest natural fiber and makes the strongest rope. I would bet that someone here could find a source verifying this. I read it in a book years ago.
Without good rope and lines, no sailing ships. Without sailing ships, back then, probably no U.S.A. The American Revolution could have very well been unsuccessful without hemp rope. Hemp fiber was a strategic resource, and still could, and should, be- even leaving aside the question of its use as a wonder drug or medicine. The money of the tobacco, liquor, Big Oil, and pharmaceutical lobbies have worked to keep this beneficial plant illegal. Also, many people suspect- I have no proof either way- that agents and agencies within our own government may be profiting by actually controlling - or even doing- the smuggling, profiting from it, keeping the price nearly as high as the price of pure gold in some cases. I thought back in the late sixties that pot would be decriminalized by now. Back then it was 15 dollar an ounce, now it's 3 to 5 hundred, probably. (Maybe more for the really good bud.) And for several decades the midwestern "K-pot" also known as ditchweed, has been assaulted with government sponsored chemical eradicaton, even though it is useless as a drug anyway. It's just insane. Also- and I am not sure about this- I've been told the mega-thousands of acres of wild weed in the midwest came from the WW2 years when it was purposely grown for fiber (and probably government subsidized).
I too have known a number of people- including members of my family- who died from either tobacco or from alcohol or from precripton pharmaceuticals gotten from a doctor and pharmacy. Or from suicide attributable to the terrible effects of some of the LEGAL drugs. Had pot been legal some of these folks might still be alive.
But in 50 years I have never heard of one death or one violent crime that was caused by someone smoking pot.
It's part of the war against the poor. Pot is still politically associated by too many people with a terribly misleading image of drug-crazed violent minority poor people, and that image, that concept, is a fraud.
When the oil runs out and we don't have polyester or diesel fuel any more, we will HAVE to find an energy and fiber source. Cannabis for fiber will grow on marginal or poor soil, unlike corn, which uses as much, or more, energy than it produces.
Other posters here have mentioned or listed some of the many medical and industrial benefits of the hemp plant, so all I will add is that yes, it is a tremendously valuable plant and should be legalized.

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Stop calling it 'marijuana'
Posted by: phillydrifter on Dec 25, 2008 9:54 AM   
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Just use of that foreign word incites hate against it. As was very clearly pointed out at the top of the article, it's not 'marijuana,' it's cannabis.

Calling it 'marijuana' is like repeatedly and systematically changing a single word in the english language with it's Mexican Spanish counterpart.

Imagine someone you work with, who at the end of every work day, says "goodbye! I'm going casa."

If you want to use the word 'marijuana' learn Mexican Spanish and use it when you speak that, not english.

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Richardson question moot now...
Posted by: Yankee Rebel on Jan 4, 2009 4:25 PM   
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We'll see who Obama taps as his next choice for CS...

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CNBC Marijuana Inc. Inside America’s Pot Industry
Posted by: kev501 on Jan 15, 2009 12:24 PM   
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CNBC will be premiering Marijuana Inc. Inside America’s Pot Industry on Thursday, January 22nd at 9p ET / 10p PT. The marijuana trade has long been one of the country’s leading black market industries. What factors continue to help this taboo business thrive and how is the government profiting as a result? Join Trish Regan as she explores this growing industry and how it has expanded into a major business with its own sophisticated network of growers, workers, and quasi-legal retail outlets, in the form of medical marijuana dispensaries.

Web extras are coming soon to http://originals.cnbc.com.

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