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As the Violence Soars, Mexico Signals It's Had Enough of America's Stupid War on Drugs

By Silja J.A. Talvi, AlterNet. Posted October 14, 2008.


The U.S.-financed War on Drugs has had savage results in Mexico, and now its president wants to decriminalize pot, cocaine and heroin possession.
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Even on his most homicidal of days, Al Pacino's character in Scarface couldn't even approach the level of drug trafficking-related brutality bleeding down Mexico's streets. It is no longer unusual for the Mexican news media to report on yet another, freshly decapitated head stuck atop a fencepost or a metal spike, or a garbage bag filled with body parts, usually with a hand-scrawled note or placard attached. That amounts to a cartel's calling card, and it's usually delivered in the form of a warning to a rival cartel, or for the Mexican authorities to stay away and stop seizing their drugs. Other times, it's just a chilling placard intended to strike terror into the hearts of the people who come across the gory scene and the text: "Ha Ha Ha." To be sure that their message is heard, cartels are known to send regular text messages to newspaper reporters, place newspaper advertisements, or to even upload their own killing videos (sometimes accompanied by narco-corridos as background music) to YouTube.

Mexican drug cartels are, rather effectively, fighting the government's War on Drugs with their own War of Terror, often swelling their ranks (and combat/terror tactics) with former members of law enforcement. The Zetas, for instance, are members of former Mexican counter-narcotics squads (some with U.S.-assisted training under their belts), who have become the self-proclaimed and much-feared hit men of the Gulf cartel.

So far this year, roughly 3,500 murders have been directly attributed to the drug war in Mexico, surpassing last year's estimate of 2,500. (These numbers include the murders of at least 500 soldiers, cops, judges, politicians -- and their family members -- in nearly two years. The drug war rages across Mexico's urban and (mostly) rural terrain, and murders are usually targeted toward pronounced rivals, but increasing numbers of victims are innocent bystanders, including women and children who were previously considered off-limits where acts of drug war-related retaliation were concerned.

Reports of attacks are rolling in daily, sometimes several times a day. This Sunday, unidentified gunmen shot up the United States consulate in the northern Mexican city of Monterrey. While no injuries were reported there because the consulate was closed, six young adults attending a private celebration were killed on Saturday in the violence-and-drug-plagued Mexican border state of Chihuahua, in Ciudad Juárez. Those murders, as yet unsolved, followed on the heels of 11 homicides in a Chihuahua bar, when a gunman opened fire on unsuspecting patrons, including a prominent journalist who may or may not have been a specific target.

It should be of note that much of the worst drug war violence is happening right at the border: Tijuana, adjacent to San Diego, saw nearly 40 people murdered in the last week of September alone, in addition to nearly 25 deaths of male and female prisoners the previous week due to two major riots at the vastly overcrowded Tijuana State Prison. (Prisoners alleged frequent incidents of torture and sexual violence, sometimes leading to death, at the hands of guards.)

American newspapers located in border cities and states tend to report some of the more gruesome events and mass killings, but the rest of this country seems remarkably in the dark about what's happening to our Mexican neighbors, much less the fact that the violence has increased dramatically since U.S. drug war dollars have increased in the form of support for Mexican President Felipe Calderón's militarily-minded crackdown on trafficking, with the goal of dismantling the cartels' leadership apparatus, as well as breaking apart close alliances between local authorities, cops, and drug traffickers. (Corruption in Mexican law enforcement and military is epidemic; consider that many police officers in Mexico make no more than $5,000 per year.)

Since President Calderón took office in December 2006, he has authorized large-scale troop deployments (roughly 30,000 troops), in an attempt to diminish the power lorded over Mexico and its citizens by rival Gulf and Sinaloa cartels, as well as affiliates like La Familia, which has earned a reputation for particularly memorable and gruesome acts, including the night that five decapitated heads were thrown onto a dance floor packed with people.


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Silja J.A. Talvi is an investigative journalist and the author of Women Behind Bars: The Crisis of Women in the U.S. Prison System (Seal Press: 2007). Her work has already appeared in many book anthologies, including It's So You (Seal Press, 2007), Prison Nation (Routledge: 2005), Prison Profiteers (The New Press: 2008), and Body Outlaws (Seal Press: 2004). She is a senior editor at In These Times.

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Imperial Highness
Posted by: Direct Democracy on Oct 14, 2008 3:14 AM   
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The shit that gave me the most trouble was all legal.

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» RE: Imperial Highness Posted by: bornxeyed
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» RE: Imperial Highness Posted by: bornxeyed
This article is insightful
Posted by: Mexitli on Oct 14, 2008 3:19 AM   
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This article is insightful, informative and obviously written by someone who knows what they are talking about.

TY Alternet,

Mexitli

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» RE: This article is insightful Posted by: siljatalvi
Do you mean
Posted by: Mexitli on Oct 14, 2008 3:20 AM   
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Do you mean like alcohol and tobacco?

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» RE: Do you mean Posted by: bornxeyed
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» RE: Do you mean Posted by: GatoPreto
» RE: Do you mean Posted by: bornxeyed
Didn't Vincente Fox try this last year
Posted by: bornxeyed on Oct 14, 2008 3:36 AM   
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and didn't he end up butt-end to the great god Bush?

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We Export Our Problems
Posted by: AlexLawyer on Oct 14, 2008 3:37 AM   
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We Americans do have a penchant for exporting our problems, don't we? We're the world's leading weapons supplier, we sell our cigarettes worldwide, we invade other countries when someone we don't like is sitting on "our" oil, we send fruitcake missionaries to spread our ridiculous fundamentalist Christianity in the developing world, we send our banned pesticides abroad, we vitiate treaties then refuse to sign them anyway, and we remorselessly ruin everyone's climate. And then we just can't understand why people don't like us.

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Credibility?
Posted by: jwgauld on Oct 14, 2008 4:42 AM   
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Shouldn't someone with the resume of this writer know how to spell Colombia?

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» Is it "there" or "their"? Posted by: xvictor
» RE: Credibility? Posted by: siljatalvi
Don’t bogart that joint
Posted by: solrev on Oct 14, 2008 5:12 AM   
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It is not enough to decriminalize drug use; the government has to become the pusher man. If the black market controls the drug trade nothing will change no matter what the end user result is. The government has to step in and make the price of drugs so cheap that no criminal element can make a dime. If Americans want to exercise their free will and become addicts, just keep them healthy until they choose otherwise. Contrary to the public view, joy poppers do not become addicts. Why doesn’t this happen? It does not happen because pot would destroy the alcohol industry in the US. God damn the pusher man, when will our government stop pushing alcohol?

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» RE: Don’t bogart that joint Posted by: Romantic Violence
» RE: Don’t bogart that joint Posted by: dav7612r
» RE: Don’t bogart that joint Posted by: goldengrain
This past June, Bush struck a deal with
Posted by: bitsfick on Oct 14, 2008 5:33 AM   
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Calderón to approve $400 million toward additional drug war assistance (representing a 20% increase in the Mexican anti-narcotics budget) -- for still more helicopters, military training, ion scanners, canine units, and surveillance technology. I wonder what American corporations are going to supply all this? And what their profits will be?

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» A good waste of 400MM!!! Posted by: xvictor
pragmatisme
Posted by: richholland on Oct 14, 2008 5:44 AM   
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long long ago in europe you only could buy sugar in adrugstore and in many european countries on smoking tobacco was a death penalty.

so things have to change step by step.
The first step is medical marihuana and the allowance of own use.

Some alternet comments want to prove weed is so good, but that is bullshit; tobacco, alcohol and weed are no healthy, but to put people in jail when they use it is crazy.

If you let marihuana free big corporation will use it as a profit vehicle.

There is one good thing; USAofficials cannot stop illegal mexicans, illegal drugs etc. so why they think they can stop TERRORISTS (maybe all these terrorists stories are only propaganda????

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» RE: pragmatisme Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN
» RE: pragmatisme Posted by: Bliss Doubt
PLEASE! COLOMBIA is spelled with an O not a U.
Posted by: Centavo on Oct 14, 2008 6:00 AM   
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Calderon and William F. Buckley
Posted by: jmmartin on Oct 14, 2008 6:03 AM   
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Years prior to his death, William F. Buckley, as arch a conservative as one might likely find, expressed dismay at how we were throwing money at a losing war -- on drugs. He advocated decriminalization at least and legalization at most. Mexico's Calderon is once again moving in the same wise direction, though we should remember that a trial balloon was launched in that country's Chamber of Deputies on a previous occasion. And guess who shot it down? Yep, the U.S. government. It will happen again. Mexico should kick out the DEA and march to its own drummer. Show the U.S. how legalization can work. Put the narcotraficantes out of business and put a halt to the needless violence and death-dealing.

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» RE: Calderon and William F. Buckley Posted by: Romantic Violence
Who cares
Posted by: RedFoxOne on Oct 14, 2008 6:38 AM   
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Personally, I put Mexico right up there with Iraq and Afghanistan and say WHO CARES what goes on there, we have enough of our own problems to deal with!

Jiff
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» I CARE!!! Posted by: VickyinSD
legal export
Posted by: jstepp590 on Oct 14, 2008 7:34 AM   
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My thinking on this is simple. Our government and law enforcement cannot keep drugs out of our maximum-security prisons. Just how do they expect to keep it out of a free and open society?

After reading something about the Middle East I had a different idea. In the Middle East, opium had been used traditionally by their elderly to alleviate the aches and pains of growing old. Because it is not refined into morphine or heroin, it is nowhere near as dangerous to our bodies.

My thinking is, why don't we do that in the U.S.? If we create a legal market for the coca plant, the drug dealers will have an extremely hard time as right now they buy the coca in bulk, paying very little per pound to the farmers. It takes a LOT of leaf to make a kilo of cocaine. With the creation of a legal market, the farmers won't want to sell to them as they can get 5-10x as much money through legitimate sources. As long as it is processed into pills in the country of origin to a preset limit on potency, it would never be cost effective to refine it here into more refined drugs like cocaine or crack.

This would take away the economic viability of the drug dealers’ business plan and squeeze them out of business. If they tried to force the farmers to sell them coca at the lower price then the farmers would turn against them instead of help them. Our elderly would be able to utilize the same plant used for thousands of years by Native Americans to help with the aches and pains of growing old without pharmaceuticals.

It would also put the CIA out of the drug business. Anyone that thinks that they aren't needs to look up the Iran/Contra scandal sometime. That by itself would be worth it from and American perspective.

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Will this president be assassinated??
Posted by: xvictor on Oct 14, 2008 8:34 AM   
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The president has undertaken a courageouslyl bold step in rationalizing this mess. However, the interests of both sides of the bloody aisle: those fanatical drug warriors on our side of the border, and the murderous drug lords in Mexico, will not be served by legalization/decrim. He ought to watch his back more often.

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hoodoowah
Posted by: hoodoowah on Oct 14, 2008 8:51 AM   
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I'll second jwgauld's comment on the writer's consistent misspelling of Colombia. She also misspelled Merida (it's not Merda) and Michoacan (not Michoacn). And she places accent marks on some names but not others. Is there no one at Alternet who is familiar with Spanish?

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» RE: hoodoowah Posted by: siljatalvi
LEAP's Message is a Workable Answer
Posted by: ezrydn on Oct 14, 2008 8:59 AM   
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I have now lived in Mexico for 7 years. As a member of LEAP, I've spoken to many Mexicans about the cartel problem and LEAP's answer to the problem. I have yet to find anyone that disagrees with LEAP's position.

Cartels aren't afraid of police or armies. However, they are afraid of three simple words: Legalize, Regulate and Control. Not one trigger need be pulled, nor one round expended, in order to end this travesty. With the meer "sweep of the pen," legalization legislation would end the crime and violence, just as it did with Alcohol Prohibition.

Legalization wouldn't solve the "drug problem," but it sure would affect the "crime and violence" problem, just as it did in the US in the '30s.

It would also open a mirad of industries, i.e., clothing, fuel, lubricants, foods, cosmetics, to name a few. That means "JOBS" for these people.

Mexico doesn't need military aid! What it needs is "sensible aid!" America has become the "Provicator of Violence" and it's got to STOP!

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» LEAP's Message... Posted by: VickyinSD
its been coming for some time now...
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Oct 14, 2008 9:32 AM   
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**APPLAUSE**

Spread Love, not corporate dependence...

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Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire
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WAR!!!
Posted by: Cybershaman on Oct 14, 2008 9:31 AM   
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When Iran-Contra began heating up and Reagan had to divert attention from it, he called on Nancy to promote the bogus 'War On Drugs'. It was actually a war on liberals.

Conservatives tend to conform to the status quo, while liberals tended to party around and interact with the minority races. Conservatives, in the mold of Joe McCarthy, saw this an an opportunity to continue the "Red Scare" pogrom by shifting the dialog over to drug use. Nixon, (McCarthy's protoge'), and Ronald Reagan (one of his most ardent blacklisters) were promoted into positions of great power. Nixon had to ignore the findings of his own commission in order to embrace criminalizing the behaviors of minorities and liberals.

Now our prisons have been turned into overcrowded 'concentration camps' for those who dared to act like they lived in a free society. Only the level of health care we are willing to give to our political prisoners keeps us from another holocaust. It is a witch hunt in every sense of the word.

As with any "War" there is nothing but bloodshed and misery for the people of the world. They hate us for our freedom ... to kill them indiscriminately.

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Maybe if we focused on putting industrial cannabis to use, we wouldn't be losers.
Posted by: jwverez on Oct 14, 2008 9:44 AM   
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And yet it's just another culture war just like the rightwing assholes want it and this article pretty much strengthens them. Focus on the industrial uses for a change and quit buying into the rightwing culture shit.

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Enough with the "war on drugs", already
Posted by: willymack on Oct 14, 2008 10:46 AM   
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Legalize it all, tax it, pay off our national debt, rebuild our national infrastructure, and fund research leading to the production of energy which doesn't depend on burning something. Then we can go on to our next fad, such as naked skydiving or the like.

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It's all about money and control
Posted by: akbirdwm on Oct 14, 2008 11:36 AM   
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Hemp (and smokable marijuana) were originaly made illegal in order to placate the alcohol, tobacco and cotton industries. Then the pharmecuetical and industrial agricultural chemical companies jumped in. (Can't have the masses treating their own ailement's, or use crops that don't need fertilizers, pesticides and herbicides!) All these huge corporations (ConAgra, Monsanto, Lilly, etc.) have a vested interest in keeping marijuana in particular illegal because otherwise they'd either be out of business or their profits would be significantly reduced. Then as the U.S. began to lock up our "illegal drug" users (and our manufacturing and other jobs were being dismantled and moved oversees) the US started to see dollar signs in the prison industry. What I've seen in the last 40 years is the turning of independent Americans into a controlled and monitored society. We have become indentured servants to the Corps and if we don't behave we'll get locked up forever. It will take HUGE public pushing to get even medical marijuana federally legal. But with our current economic and environmental crisis, the atmosphere for drastic change is coming ripe.

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legalize it all
Posted by: edgar1 on Oct 14, 2008 11:55 AM   
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legalize it here and you will stabilize mexico, slow down immigration, and alleviate prison overcrowding and exposure of drug users to hard core criminals.

who will oppose: Mccain and bush republicans and goody goody dems like Obama and Pelosi? Libertarians like Ron Paul and Bob Barr will support legalization. And hard stuff like morphine and heroin should be legal, not just pot. let the doctors shut up about what is best for patients and how patients should die. doctors know how to make people suffer; patients know how to alleviate pain if given the chance.

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guitarbuddy
Posted by: lake_boy on Oct 14, 2008 12:40 PM   
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I think the first step anyone has to take when discussing the "War on Drugs" is to ask who benefits from it. There has been copious research published on this topic by Peter Dale Scott, Mike Ruppert, Dan Russell and many others, with the conclusion that the profits from drug trafficking go directly into greasing the wheels of corporate finance and politics all over the world. "Illicit" drugs are illegal because they are much more lucrative this way, and the people who keep this system in place are put into political office on purpose. It's a scam on many levels and a more cynical enterprise you're unlikely to find. Calderon is probably trying to scale back the level of violence his country is experiencing, but he is probably affiliated with one or more of the cartels, and it's most likely his attempts to put the rival cartels out of business that's causing the grief.

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If there's a difference between alcohol prohibition consequences and now, I can't see it.
Posted by: Sojourner on Oct 14, 2008 1:42 PM   
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It's exactly the same social pattern, so far as I am aware. Violence, corruption, and hypocrisy arise when there are laws that no one obeys.

The "party of memory" keeps making the same mistakes over and over, trying to show that if we do it the way they say, it would work.

It is a condemnation of education that new generations are fooled by that lie over and over. Maybe there's something new under the sun, but Prohibition ain't one of them.

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» Thanks for the book reference. Posted by: Sojourner
And here's the rest of the story
Posted by: dkm on Oct 14, 2008 3:16 PM   
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No doubt decriminalizing these drugs will result in much less social unrest, but it won't eliminate the cartels. They are now big into the protection racket where businessmen (shop owners, bar and discoteque owners, restaurant owners, Ma and Pa convenience stores, etc.) and ranchers have to pay their monthly "premiums" so that bad things don't happen to their property and to their families. This has resulted in a bunch of the wealthier entrepreneurs taking their money and going north. Others can't afford that so they pay.

I noticed that there was a statement in the story that the US is working to interdict the flow of weapons into Mexico. Excuse me!!! As long as we allow any sort of firearm to be sold to anyone at these weekend gun fairs, there is no way in hell that the flow of arms will be at all affected. As long as the NRA prevents any sort of real weapon control laws, the weapons will continue to pour into Mexico. Anything about the US trying to prevent the flow is just pure and unadulterated scrapings from a North Texas feedlot pen. Thank you, NRA.

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johnny hempseed
Posted by: Johnny Hempseed on Oct 14, 2008 3:36 PM   
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I have a simple solution to the drug war.Legalize simple possesion of small amounts of drugs for personal consumption by adults.Allow cultivation of small amounts of drugs for personal use,and distillation of spirits for personal use.Keep the impairment laws on the books of course for public safety.
Buy Afghanistans' drug crops,and Mexicos' and Columbias' and Bolivias'crops to end the drug war.Use the drugs for medicinal use worldwide,and offer an incentive like loan gaurantees to encourage farmers to plant needed food crops and reduce the drug crops anually as the farmers no longer need the illicit crops to survive.This is a crop futures scheme that would require compliance for participation and would help small growers to finance thier spring planting without any further loans.in effect a futures market to encourage crop diversification.
This would do two things;reduce the market value of blackmarket crops ,and eliminate the main source of funding for terrorists crime syndicates and guerilla movements.It would also enable an examination of the "market terrorism" of export crops on farmers and indigenous peoples' livlihoods.It would stop the arial application of toxic herbicides indescrimately on villages,and the assosiated health and enviornmental hazzards,the huge investment in anti drug intradiction budgets and hardware as well as the incredible costs of prosecuting the growers and users could be redirected to agricultural redevelopement strategies.And of course the billions spent for the millions enslaved in the prison industrial complex.
As long as the drug war is a cash cow for an unfunded mandate of prohibition, corruption and greed will stop it from ending.The prohibition is causing a self sustaining cycle of greed at both ends of the equasion,with no end in sight. peace

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America farts and the rest of the world gets Dysentery!
Posted by: Cathyc on Oct 14, 2008 4:31 PM   
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But now, America is crapping all over itself! LOL!

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THIS IS NOT ABOUT CARING ABOUT PEOPLE TAKING DRUGS
Posted by: cori on Oct 14, 2008 4:58 PM   
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This is about the US making money, spending more of our tax dollars on narrow minded, non humanitarian deployments whose only purpose is to protect the tobacco and alcohol industry at our and the Mexican people's expense. While other nations are turning towards helping people, our only solution is violence and making profit from it using our tax dollars. This is what happens when our nation’s biggest industry is selling arms. They make the arms using our tax dollars and then pay armies with our tax dollars to kill people. Tobacco kills millions but there's a tobacco lobby so it's not a problem if people die from smoking or drinking. There was a time, in the 70's when helping people with drug problems was the way to go, and really, if you cared about people this was thought of as the right approach. Filling our jails that also suck up billions of our tax dollars is much more costly and much less helpful. Now are prisons are a growth industry also sucking up billions of our tax dollars. They will not be happy until they have spent us to death. While other nations are becoming wiser, we are becoming more stupid. We have become the lords of war.

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» It's more than those Posted by: donl51
» RE: pop that bubble Posted by: Lauren
decriminalization wont end the black market cash supply!
Posted by: Bearzerker on Oct 14, 2008 10:49 PM   
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but legalization will!
it will take Canada and Mexico both to unilaterally declare an end to prohibition to start the end of an illegal law that the US enforces by UN proxy throughout the world and enforces it with fear and "TRADE SANCTIONS" if they don't obey the will of the US Federals!
Bush43 should have said ..."you're either with with us or with the" ...criminals...

Unfortunately.... Decriminalization isn't the answer as it doesn't address the core issue of the underground profit engine that Hemp provides!

Cocaine Heroin methamphetamine and all the other drugs combined doesn't add up to a fraction of the value that medicinal grade hemp gives to organized criminal groups... you can't decriminalize drugs as it it doesn't address the true issues which is the undeclared value of this market and the amount our of tax dollars going to enforce a law that is basically denying the right to do unto yourself that which you deem best to serve your mental, physical and medicinal needs...

If a doctor and patient agree to a medicinal approach to alleviate pain and suffering, or if a faith requires the use a listed prohibited substance as their sacrament,
what right is it of any 3rd party to interfere with this decision?

religious guarantees are being flaunted by child molesters as was shown in Texas earlier this year but if an indigenous group wish to use their sacrament of choice why should they be denied it due to a prohibition that is clearly an abuse of authority and is clearly unconstitutional!

Prohibition has made the Constitution a worthless piece of paper... and the sheeple just take it...

baaaa, baaaaaaaa, baaaaad

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Good for Mexico!
Posted by: bobtr900 on Oct 15, 2008 4:26 AM   
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I say, good for Mexico,for trying something different. Doing the same thing, the American thing, has proven to be unsuccessful for Mexico. The same thing, our long term drug policy, has proven to be also largely unsuccessful for America. But of course, you can't tell our government anything.

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war on drugs and war on terror - money extortion scheme
Posted by: PakiBoy on Oct 15, 2008 12:55 PM   
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Just another means by which US ruling elites extort money from US tax payers and steal resources from other nations.

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Pack your bags
Posted by: xmvince on Oct 15, 2008 10:23 PM   
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We're moving to Mexico honey!

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» Mejico will strengthen the wall Posted by: 8 nontheist
Money. They are fighting over MONEY not drugs.
Posted by: AllenAllen on Oct 18, 2008 5:24 PM   
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Take away the income from these violent gangs, overnight... with the stroke of a pen. Drugs are cheap agricultural products... that is until you make them illegal, then they are worth a fortune.

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DID YOU EVER NOTICE THAT BEING RIGHT WAS THE POOREST PAYING
Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Oct 19, 2008 3:18 PM   
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job in town. The Mexicans have it right. Legalize it. Take the money out of it. It will fall on it face of its own accord.

Notice that they do well exporting oil to us. That isn't because they got it wrong. Do you suppose we will ever get anything right? I am waiting for the border dispute between Canada and Mexico.

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Hemp based Ethanol
Posted by: o on Oct 25, 2008 12:54 PM   
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watch Heat on PBS this month. it is awesome, though they do not mention this in relation to the corn problem; hemp based ethanol is 4 times better than corn. it needs no fertilizers, no irrigation, etc...

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US Government gives financial aid to Mexico and expects Mexico to help our war on drugs
Posted by: Dayaan on Nov 10, 2008 3:38 PM   
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Under a Republican administration, a decision by Mexico to legalize drugs would have meant that the US would have been likely to halt or reduce our foreign aid to Mexico. I don't know what a Democratic administration under Obama will do. I think that it is wrong for us to use this kind of leverage to undermine Mexico's right to self-determination and policies in the best interest of their citizens.

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