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What Happens When You Put 300 Experts on Psychedelics in the Same Room?

By Steven Wishnia, AlterNet. Posted September 25, 2008.


The "Horizons: Perspectives on Psychedelics" conference in New York presented an older and wiser psychedelic movement.
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The waves of mass psychedelic utopianism have come and gone, but the hippie movement of the late '60s echoes in the rave scene of the '90s. And there's a small but devoted community of scientists, spiritual seekers, artists and grown-up hedonists exploring the value of these drugs.

The "Horizons: Perspectives on Psychedelics" conference, held in New York Sept. 19-21, sought to present an older and wiser psychedelic movement, focusing on medicine, art, spirituality and culture. It drew around 300 people, a mix of academic and hippie types, with the white button-down shirts slightly outnumbering the dreadlocks and the NASA T-shirts.

Psychedelics are "the most powerful psychiatric medicine ever devised," said psychotherapist Neal Goldsmith, who curated the speakers. But because the way they work as medicine -- when used in the proper setting -- is by generating mystical experiences, "science has to expand." Solid research, he added, could change government policy, which classifies psychedelics as dangerous drugs with no accepted medical use.

The most promising current medical research, said Rick Doblin of the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies, is in coupling MDMA (Ecstasy) with intensive psychotherapy to treat post-traumatic stress disorder. Preliminary studies, he said, have had "very encouraging results" with patients who did not respond to talk therapy and conventional medications.

The group hopes to win FDA approval within 10 years. But pharmaceutical companies aren't interested -- the MDMA molecule is in the public domain, the number of pills used in the therapy is unprofitably low, and the drug is controversial. So the model for developing it, Doblin said, will probably be along the lines of Planned Parenthood's support for RU486.

The lines between disciplines were often blurred at the conference. Purdue University pharmacologist David Nichols called himself a "reductionist scientist" but said it's fantastic that one-tenth of a milligram of a drug can stay in the brain for four hours and permanently change someone's worldview. Artist Alex Grey showed slides of his tripping-inspired paintings and videos of iridescent, morphing eyes, fish and worms, presenting them as signals from a "visionary culture" that seeks to redeem the world, with a "group soul" supplanting a culture that spends $38 billion a second on war. Artists, said animator Isaiah Saxon, can fill the role of the shaman in an industrial society that has no other space for it.

Spirituality is a key point for many users. Gabrielle, a 32-year-old mother of two, said tripping makes her lose her ego and become a part of something greater. "Nature wants us to understand we're all equal," she said, recalling an ayahuasca experience in a California forest during which she saw screens of intricate, fine-colored strings and watched the redwoods rejoice when the life-giving fog rolled in. When you realize your part in the universe, said Craig Reuter, 25, you become aware of how responsible you are for your actions, because "everything you do ripples out like drops of water in a giant pond of existence." Sue, a 45-year-old teacher, said psychedelics help her become introspective, to focus on right-brain imagery instead of the language/verbal domain.

Canadian psychoanalyst Dan Merkur listed five ways in which cultures have used psychedelics for spiritual transformation: the "mass religious revival" of the hippies; the training of religious specialists such as shamen; group ritual use such as indigenous ayahuasca and peyote ceremonies; initiation rites such as the use of ibogaine by the Bwiti of Gabon; and their more recent Western use in therapy. Some former heroin users have reported success in using ibogaine to treat their addiction.

Sasha and Ann Shulgin, the authors of PIHKAL (Phenylethylamines I Have Known and Loved) and TIHKAL (Tryptamines I Have Known and Loved), are cult figures in the psychedelic world. Sasha Shulgin, a white-bearded chemist, develops psychedelics in his lab. Ann, his wife, joins him in taking them, and their books catalog the drugs' effects. They deflected the crowd's adulation with dry humor, saying that while tripping can be great for feeling like one being during sex, they don't see the same images.

"I'm not a regular drug user," Sasha answered when asked what his favorite chemical was. "Except for red wine," his wife interjected.

Ann Shulgin, a lay therapist, cautioned that taking MDMA more than four times a year undermines the drug's magic. Though it's a wonderful drug for therapy, she said, it's selfish and wasteful for therapists to take it during a session. "You have to pay attention to the patient's insight," she explained.


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Steven Wishnia is a New York-based journalist and musician. The author of Exit 25 Utopia and The Cannabis Companion, he has won two New York City Independent Press Association awards for his coverage of housing issues. He is looking for a job.


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A quite unfair slur of Albert Hofmann
Posted by: dfraser on Sep 26, 2008 4:02 AM   
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Specifically this section:

"On the other hand, although washing away your normal sense of reality for a while can be enlightening, abandoning your normal rational skepticism can be dangerous in a society full of capitalist, religious, and political mind scams-especially those that come in a "countercultural" or "anti-Establishment" package.

In the conference's closing session, Pinchbeck suggested that the current renaissance in psychedelic culture came about because Saturn was at right angles to Pluto. And when one audience member asked who doubted the "official 9/11 story," more than half the crowd raised their hands. Forte then ... -- and confessed that Albert Hofmann, the Swiss chemist who discovered the effects of LSD in 1943, had told him ... that he thought the Jews had been behind the attacks. " (redacted for length)

To use the word "Jews" in the last sentence invites charges of anti-semitism against Dr. Hofmann, who to my knowledge never expressed any such sentiments. It's also sloppy writing - the stories of likely Israel agents seeming to have a hand in 9/11 are credible ones, but have been swept under the rug by the media "establishment" (re: the Israeli "art students", the group of presumed Israelis seen celebrating when the Towers fell...) and investigations into these matters have died. This is a result of the groupthink known as "common wisdom" - i.e. Israel is an ally of the US. Despite having spied on the US for the past 30 years or more (Jonathan Pollard?) and AIPAC having an extreme (and negative) influence on US government policies.

For the record, I am not an anti-semite - the Israel government DOES NOT equal Jews just as the US government DOES NOT equal Americans. So to say Dr. Hofmann thought "Jews" were behind the attacks is a sloppy overgeneralization. This theory about the Israel government possibly having a hand in 9/11 is also supported by the established facts that the US government was manipulated into destroying Iraq - there are many causes of the Iraq war, so there is no clear cut answer. But there are too many stories out there that, when pieced together, paint a far more complex picture of the situation than the simplistic "12 muslim hijackers" theory.

This is one of the issues around psychedelics and when one starts taking them - the amount of information a person is able to handle increases in some fashion - they begin to develop the ability to see facts within a larger context and to see how those facts connect together into a larger picture. This larger picture is more complex and so usually doesn't fit into the more narrow bandwidth of "conventional wisdom".

But of course, there is a danger in becoming overloaded - schizophrenia being the extreme case where everything is symbolically connected to everything else. So it does take some sort of skill to not fall into that trap. Unfortunately, if one is psychologically vulnerable in some way, one can fall prey to believing all sorts of silly claptrap, like astrology.

Hence the abandonment of "normal rational skepticism" - but when is "normal rational skepticism" really just an excuse to indulge in groupthink?

This can be seen in the tone of the last two paragraphs, which after a good objective by the facts reporting of the conference, the writer indulges in the writing equivalent of covering one's mouth with your hand, and sniggering at the uncool kids - astrology is a load of nonsense, but to lump that with possible causes of the most serious incident of the 21st century and which has affected the shape of the world's affairs is bad writing. Making fun of the DMT elves or the OOBE theories would have been more appropriate.

But journalists always feel the need to be "fair and balanced", don't they?

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» RE: silly claptrap, like astrology Posted by: BigElectricCat
easy attacks
Posted by: dpinchbeck on Sep 26, 2008 7:54 AM   
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The writer commented negatively on my suggestion that astrological conjunctions might have something to do with the resurgent interest in psychedelics as therapy tools (as well as the current financial foibles). I referred to the book "Cosmos and Psyche" by Richard Tarnas. I have written an essay on Tarnas' "archetypal astrology", which is published here:
http://realitysandwich.com/psyching_out_cosmos

I was only suggesting that this might be an influence, not trying to promote some deterministic belief in it.

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» RE: easy attacks Posted by: I-I
Good to see through the prism
Posted by: kittybrat on Sep 27, 2008 7:10 AM   
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thanks for the article.
I thought the dismissal of Albert Hoffman and astrology was rather foolish, but the rest was rather informative.
I know that it will be the people who are interested rather than any government sanctions that will add to the research and development.
thanks for the humor and insight
now go make some good mushroom tea and chill out.

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what happens?
Posted by: hurricane hugo on Sep 27, 2008 11:45 AM   
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hopefully, free samples!

:D

jdfu!

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xtiml
Posted by: xtiml on Sep 27, 2008 8:32 PM   
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one phase of lsd is thinking you gotta turn everyone else on, that may be good more than bad. another is a potential for a acute paranoia. another maybe to much hallucinations interfering with the solid world,best taken care of by not moving or having your dimwitted friends who slipped it to you look after you.. iF ONLY HALF RAISED THEIR HANDS WE STILL IN BAD SHAPE AND WHY DO YOU DISCOUNT ZIONISTS WERE BEHIND 9/11?soem were obviously,aka the owner of the buildings , they had to set those charges and werkers there reported much activity with zones posted off limits 2 and 3 weks before, that gave them time to set all the charges, and a passport found at ground zero is laughable, soemtimes they cant lie worth a shit, they are better at hoodwinking and finacial and war and general manipulations of humankind, but simple lies no, they aint good at.

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i was misquoted and taken out of context
Posted by: LetsSaveDemocracy on Sep 27, 2008 9:58 PM   
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I did not "confess" that Albert Hofmann said "THE Jews were behind the attacks." I reported that when I told Albert that I have come to realize that 9/11 was an inside job by the Bush Administration, he said there was "A Jewish conspiracy."

I (too) recoiled when my friend Albert Hofmann made that comment to me, being well aware as I am of the long terrible history of anti-Semitism in his native Basel Switzerland. I was disappointed that perhaps vestiges of his culture's despicable racism might have remained in his otherwise awakened consciousness.

But now that I have studied 9/11 quite carefully, along with my fellow patriots,(http://patriotsquestion911.com/), scholars, (http://stj911.org/), pilots (http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org/, and architects and engineers, http://www.ae911truth.org/, it now appears that Albert's remark was no more anti-Semitic than calling the mafia AN Italian conspiracy, is anti-Italian.

There is a world of difference between these two statements. Had he said, "THE Jews," it would have been a bigoted,vile, anti-Semitic comment. As he said it-and as I reported it- it now appears to me as a descriptive comment about some of the most likely suspects of the perhaps the most heinous, unsolved crime in US history.

It was said by me at this excellent conference, horizonsnyc.org/, in the context of a discussion about the effects of religious experience on world view, personality theory, the psychology of the authoritarian personality, the importance of confronting the shadow, in Jungian parlance, and the necessity of asking difficult questions.

As for "spouting a mix of 9/11 conspiracy theory and erroneous
Holocaust history", what I said was that there are well known stories that many Jews in Europe in the 1930s who were warned in advance about the atrocities being committed by the Nazis, but didn't believe those reports. The same psychological reasons for refusing to accept that something so terrible could really be true, in spite of obvious evidence, helps us to understand the resistance by many to the rapidly growing International 9/11 Truth Movement.

As for "conspiracy theory," Mr Wishnia apparently needs to be reminded that this is how we used to solve crimes in the USA. Law enforcement, criminologists, etc, come up with a theory and then try to prove it within certain rules of evidence, logic, and in a court of law. By his tone, Mr Wishnia indicates a disdain for "conspiracy theory," which makes me wonder what he prefers. Declaring someone guilty with NO evidence and attacking other countries at your whim? Testimony with no oath, with Dick Cheney holding your hand?

One more thing: At dinner after this controversial moment, a Jewish friend of mine received a call from an Israeli friend who said, "Tell Robert I am glad he made that comment for there are many of us who are strong enough in our Judaism to know that the Jewish conspirators behind 9/11 do not represent all of Judaism. I only wish Albert had said it was "a Zionist conspiracy."

This is a big problem that won't be solved by Ostriches hiding from it. No wonder to me Wishnia's bio states he is looking for a job.

Professor Richard Falk, Professor Emeritus of International Law at Princeton, was recently appointed to chair a Human Rights Commission investigating Israeli abuses of the Palestinians. Dr. Falk was unanimously approved, and then he asked for an investigation of the role of the neoconservatives, among which there are many prominent Jewish-Zionist members, in 9/11. Dr. Falk, a Jew, was himself accused of anti-Semitism.
The Holocaust was a most horrid and tragic episode in world history, but it does not exempt members of the Jewish religion from criminality and justice. Let there be light. Lets Save Democracy

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Happy To Join the Nuttery
Posted by: jnick on Sep 27, 2008 11:12 PM   
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WOW!

As someone who has experience with psychedelics (albeit a long time ago), I am astounded by the absolute lunacy in this article and most of the comments in this thread. Ya'll are trippin'.

Does the author of whatever-this-is-supposed-to-be not know that conjunctives link two independent clauses together, and that one should never begin a sentence with a conjunctive because of that? (Two tightly related ideas/concepts do not require separate sentences with a period and a capital letter for each. The conjunctive preceded by a comma will do. It's a matter of efficiency.) Conjunctives JOIN; they don't begin.

Go back and look at how many sentences begin with "and," "but," or "so" to get an understanding of the extent of what a linguistically addled mind wrote this fluff, and you'll see the bad effects that drug use can have on some minds.

I've always believed that drug use, procreating, and voting should be allowed only to those who can pass a litmus test of some sort. (I'll try to remember to write one or three of those up and get back to you on that.)

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» RE: Happy To Nut the Clergy Posted by: ranchero42
We need to have more of this
Posted by: outsideagitator on Sep 28, 2008 12:28 PM   
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Kind of gathering to further explore not only using mind altering substances but history and anthropology as well...especially the the role of the shaman. We humans are in deep shit period and if we cant somehow figure out how to heal both our planet and ourselves individually and collectively we are simply screwed.

Sure would like to have a decent supply of bud and a few hits of clean LSD and MDMA around before we go though. Used in moderation...which means only occasionally and sometimes with others and sometimes solo...except maybe with a trusted and loving cat or dog.

Joseph

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I'm as against antiquated drug laws as other intelligent person, but...
Posted by: MD1 on Oct 2, 2008 12:38 PM   
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... come on. The hallucinations caused by psychoactive drugs are just that, hallucinations. All this talk of "group minds" and "visionary cultures" is a little bit silly and very unscientific. If these drugs can help some people, fine. But all the mystical mumbo-jumbo is just plain annoying, and doesn't help the cause of those who hope to have the drugs approved for therapeutical purposes.

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