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Democracy and Elections

Jay Rockefeller: The Most Gullible Sheep in the Senate?

By Alexander Zaitchik, AlterNet. Posted April 7, 2008.


The Dem senator is an advocate for Bush's domestic spying efforts and cheerleader for telecom immunity: Is he a clownish dupe, or is his brain addled?
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Read aloud the legislative positions and "accomplishments" of Democratic Sen. Jay Rockefeller, and you might think you're hearing about the career of some boot-licking GOP White House sycophant: collaborator on telecom immunity, strong advocate of Bush's unconstitutional domestic spying efforts, effusive cheerleader for invading Iraq, enthusiast of preventing accountability for any of the nation's most severe intelligence failures. But that's just Jay being Jay.

It can be tempting to feel pity for John Davison Rockefeller IV. The scion of the American oil dynasty and junior senator from West Virginia only ever wanted to be called "Jay." Like the economically depressed coal state he adopted for his home, the nickname does not immediately evoke sterling silver baby spoons, guaranteed admission to Harvard and ten-figure trust funds. The moniker befits the self-image, if not quite the reality, of the black sheep of the Rockefeller clan, its sole Democrat. Jay Rockefeller: easygoing everyman.

But since the 9/11 attacks, "Jay" has become just one of Rockefeller's nicknames. These days the senator is also known as "Jello Jay," "Vichy Democrat No. 1" and the "Senator from AT&T," depending on which outraged Democrat you're talking to. Most of these newer nicknames have their origins in Rockefeller's performance as chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. Since the FISA drama emerged as the defining battle of the 110th Congress, Rockefeller has become the face of an increasingly passé kind of collaboration. But it isn't just the administration he's cozy with. Rockefeller has deep links with Third Way, a phony progressive pro-corporate think tank with close ties to the telecom industry. Matt Bennett, vice president of Third Way, meets frequently with Rockefeller's legislative aide for military and national security issues to discuss the FISA legislation and has provided talking points in defense of immunity.

But Rockefeller's sins well predate his current alliance with the Bush administration in defense of expanded executive wiretapping powers and retroactive immunity for telecom firms who broke the law. His post-9/11 career as the ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee has been one of deepening disgrace and epic failure. As Rockefeller returns to Washington from recess to tackle the FISA impasse, it's worth remembering that "Jello Jay" has been a sweet and refrigerated Bush/Cheney-enabling treat for close to seven years.

"Ever since 9/11, the Bush administration has had no better friend on Capitol Hill than Jay Rockefeller," says author and blogger Glenn Greenwald, who has been one of Rockefeller's fiercest and most persistent critics. "In his position as ranking member and then chairman of the Intelligence Committee, he has been continuously notified of the most extreme and lawless actions by the administration, and has either done nothing or actively supported and enabled such lawlessness."

Rockefeller's habit of carrying the heaviest buckets of dirty water for the administration began soon after the 9/11 attacks. As Rockefeller proudly revealed in a November 2005 television appearance, he understood quickly that the Bush administration was determined to use the attacks as a pretext to invade Iraq and topple Saddam Hussein. Did Rockefeller sound the tocsin? Yes, but not to the American people. Instead, Rockefeller packed his bags in January 2001 and visited the capitals of Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Syria, where he shared with officials his insider belief that the war was a fait accompli and told them they might as well get on board. "George Bush had already made up his mind to go to war against Iraq," Rockefeller told "Fox News Sunday" in 2005, explaining his private diplomacy. "That was a predetermined set course which had taken shape shortly after 9/11."

Rockefeller's adventure in stealth personal diplomacy was so brazen and so stupid for so many reasons that even the conservative writer and war-supporter Bill Bennett asked on the National Review blog, "What was Senator Rockefeller doing? What was he thinking? And all this before President Bush even made a public speech about Iraq -- to the U.N. or anyone else."

Like so many Democrats, Rockefeller would eventually claim to have been duped by bad and distorted intelligence. Specifically, Rockefeller blames the conflicting evidence presented in the October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate -- which he did not read until a full ten months after his unofficial "Get Your War On" Tour of the Middle East.

That the 2002 NIE distorted the truth is an odd claim for Rockefeller to make. In fact the opposite is true. It was Rockefeller who willfully distorted the NIE's conflicting and uncertain threat assessments to make the case for war.

Rockefeller was such an early and spastic booster for war that he has the distinction of being the only senator to actually go beyond the administration's own talking points. While most of his colleagues stuck to well-worn facts about Saddam's old chemical weapons program and vague references to "weapons of mass destruction," Rockefeller repeatedly dropped the "n" word, embracing the most patently absurd of the Iraq threat scenarios.


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Alexander Zaitchik is a freelance journalist.

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Faint praise indeed
Posted by: UnEasyOne on Apr 7, 2008 1:43 AM   
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"Or it could be that Rockefeller's position is just the natural result of a genuine, wrongheaded and wholly pathetic desire to play ball with the Bush administration and get along with his Republican friends in the Senate. Jay Rockefeller is a famously easygoing guy, and the 71-year-old will be no doubt be popular in whatever Florida retirement community he chooses. But in the meantime, he embodies every reason that the public's support of Congress trails one of the least popular presidents in American history."

I prefer the more logical assumption that he is, and always was, a phony, a stealth fascist, corrupt to the core, a DINO, a traitor to the party he pretends to represent and the constitution he has sworn to uphold. Grandpappy would be proud.

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» Stealth Fascists Posted by: littlemanintheboat
» RE: Stealth Fascists Posted by: sasquuatch55
» RE: Faint praise indeed Posted by: JOHN L.
» RE: Faint praise indeed Posted by: lively56
A Rockefeller...what more needs to said?
Posted by: Obijuan on Apr 7, 2008 2:10 AM   
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As if party affiliation has anything to do with this guy's motivations. He's another example of how party means nothing in America anymore, and hasn't for a long time. At least the author acknowledges the nickname gag.

This isn't news for most of us I hope. The gov't has long since left our control. His family sits at or very near the top of the globalist group actually pulling the strings of our planet, and his political alignment is meaningless.

It's time for a revolution folks. Past time.

obi

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Terrorist
Posted by: HeKnew on Apr 7, 2008 2:17 AM   
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We don't need sheep in leadership positions.


Direct Democracy

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What They Do to Sheep
Posted by: AlexLawyer on Apr 7, 2008 3:00 AM   
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Well, our Vice President is from Wyoming and we know what they do to sheep out there. He's known as Dick because he has a head with no hair, no brain, no vision and no hearing and screws or pisses on everybody.

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» RE: SO!???? Posted by: GrannyBgood
» RE: What They Do to Sheep Posted by: lively56
Does it matter?
Posted by: talkville on Apr 7, 2008 3:16 AM   
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The raucus House "representing" the People; the sedate Senate "representing" the Elite; the Co-Presidency above the both of them, with 'war-time' power.

What do degrees of gullibility matter? They're all sheep. And they all represent the interests of about 100 or so families and about 5% of 300 million individuals. They find themselves at the downward roll of a capital cycle (about 40 years or so in it's roll -- not smooth by any means) and of vastly expanded scale. Dire as things may look and will look to most of us, they'll do fine and dandy cotton candy with perhaps a few minor or major adjustments as one moves down-ward from the Top.

They long ago, learning from the 60's and 70's , anticipated any forms of 'social un-rest' that may arise and already have well in place the institutional and organized means to control it - modern day Pinkertons included. Prisons (a.k.a. Concentration Centers) are doing robust business and will be able to accommodate 'guests' of many types. The Patriot Act and HR 1955-style (promoted by a Democrat!) legislation is working itself through even still -- including surveillance and many contracts for telecoms and NASDAQ types. All things considered, they may look or appear a bit worried, but over-all there's still a lot of cheerful camaraderie way up in those circles.

It seems a Constitution is turning out to be perhaps a Necessary, but not in the least Sufficient, condition for the abeyance of such t hings as tyranny, fascism or lo! totalitarian control. Keep an eye out for the Shepherds, they reside in duskier, murkier regions high above this 3-branched tree of ours. One doesn't see them too often at all; they like to delegate the dirty work and chores to the Help.

A delightful exercise: going back to read The Declaration of Independence -- an Action. Then musing if any analogous document and action would even be possible today! We're too far gone. Now it seems one must change their grammar: They the People, in order to form a more perfect Union, messed up Royally and by hook, crook and fraud delivered up all their Ways and Means into the hands of their Caretakers.

They're all various degrees of sheep and sheepishness. What can a citizen do?

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» RE: What can a citizen do? Posted by: Lauren
» RE: What can a citizen do? Posted by: talkville
» RE: Does it matter? Posted by: wonkywriter
» RE: Does it matter? Posted by: talkville
DUPE ? I think not !
Posted by: richardbee on Apr 7, 2008 3:33 AM   
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When you peel away the all the cosmetic layers, Jay Rockerfeller remains first and foremost a ROCKERFELLER. He is an integral part of a continuing multi-generational plan to obtain MORE OF EVERYTHING for his family, their foundations, and their trusts. Don't be fooled by the spin - behind (or inside ?) that sheep is a BIG BAD WOLF just waiting to eat you !

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ADNK
Posted by: ADNK on Apr 7, 2008 3:37 AM   
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I guess you can take the kid out of the oligarchy, but you just can't take the oligarchy out of the kid!

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Our Dem Turncoats
Posted by: GrannyBgood on Apr 7, 2008 5:09 AM   
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Yes, Jay Rockefeller for Big OIL and Joe Lieberman for Israel and Big Oil!
At least Zell Miller has HIS roots in the good ole racist AMURKAN South!

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» RE: Our Dem Turncoats Posted by: paula.c
Jay is happy as a clam
Posted by: soulrebeljc on Apr 7, 2008 5:11 AM   
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The near complete subversion of the American democratic experiment by a small group of foreign and domestic bankers is proceeding as planned for over a hundred years. The Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, the Morgans and a few others have been financing both sides of wars for a profit since Napoleon. The headlines from a few days ago : Bush gives Fed sweeping new powers. What more needs to be said?

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» RE: Jay is happy as a clam Posted by: wearesilhouettes
Let's start
Posted by: QCao009 on Apr 7, 2008 5:21 AM   
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Let's flood Nancy Pelosi's office demanding that "Jay" be immediately stripped of his leadership position in Senate Intelligence. Let's talk to our friends in West Virginia to turn this wolf in sheep clothing out of office.
Time for another oil baron to slink and crawl back to where he comes from.

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» Ya think?! Posted by: 2dogarage
» RE: Sheehan for congress! Posted by: Lauren
» RE: Let's start Posted by: Quannah
A Nazi
Posted by: mrcentrist on Apr 7, 2008 5:31 AM   
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He's a Nazi, sure enough. Yikes, now that I have posted this comment, is the government going to spy on me? Oh my goodness!

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» RE: A Nazi Posted by: Lauren
» RE: A Nazi Posted by: donnee
» RE: A Nazi Posted by: lively56
It's time for change!
Posted by: topview on Apr 7, 2008 5:40 AM   
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The name alone tells the story, When we have our next election, we need to make the changes to put the constitution as our guide to who gets elected.
We have put up with enough of these Republicrats jamming the right wing agendas down our throats.All those old Blue dogs need to be replaced and the new progressives put in charge of this country and make the constitution again the Law of the Land.
Bush and Dickhead Cheney need to be impeached NOW before they start the Bombing of innocent people of Iran as they did in Iraq.Their Fecking Greed can not be tolerated any longer.Throw the Criminals out and try them for WAR crimes.

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Stain on my shirt...
Posted by: divetrader on Apr 7, 2008 5:43 AM   
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Rockefeller is just another pimple on the face of government that needs to be squeezed. The ones with pure access to NIE reports and refuse to read and then comprehend them are complicit in all the wrongs of our society. Wouldn't it be nice to Impeach him with Bush and Cheney? Oh yeah, we aren't going to do that. I forgot that Pelosi and Reid are as complicit as Rockefeller in this disgusting mess. The one thing they are all good at is covering their asses.

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» RE: Stain on my shirt... Posted by: Lauren
I'm a West Virginian
Posted by: kww355 on Apr 7, 2008 6:31 AM   
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When Jay came down here from NY, I was suspicious of him. I love my state, but why would he want to live here ? Why would he change his politics ? At that time, a republican couldn't get elected dog catcher here. ( Sadly,things have changed. Lots of "values voters" here, voting against their own self-interests.)

When he became governor, I feared the worst, but was pleasantly surprised. He became an advocate for us. Perhaps, he was using us as his own little domestic Peace Corps/charity project, but we didn't care.

I enthusiastically voted for him for senate. However, he's now shown his true colors. I've written him countless letters about his complete capitulation to the Bu$hCo agenda only to be answered with glorified form letters. He is completely in bed with Verizon.

I thought someone of his personal means would be immune to the blandishments of lobbyists, but then remembered I've never met a rich man who didn't want more. We ( and the nation ) are stuck with him now. He's entrenched. WV would never turn him out...hell, we're still voting for Robert Byrd! At least Byrd occasionally gets up on his hind legs and calls the ba$tards out.

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» West by God Virginia Posted by: 2dogarage
» RE: West by God Virginia Posted by: kww355
» Hey! Me too! Posted by: LeeAnnG
» Hey! Pocahontas County here! Posted by: redceres
» I WAS a West Virginian Posted by: woodford54
» RE: I'm a West Virginian Posted by: oldmaninhisunderwear
Sleeping With the Machine
Posted by: littlemanintheboat on Apr 7, 2008 7:19 AM   
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Ever since they sprayed for that moth in my town I just can't get mad at the republicans anymore..in fact, they seem like nice people..country music isn't so bad..and I just love my new polyester suit and white shoes..

http://tinyurl.com/6a3yhr

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stormy7
Posted by: dpodlogar on Apr 7, 2008 7:25 AM   
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The Bush Administration has been wire tapping Americans since before 911. That would include the people in Congress. Why else would so many Democrats give this administration everything they want?
No impeachment hearings. Immunity. Billions in war funding. Destruction of our Constitution.
We need people who will stand up to this corrupt administration. Even if it means exposing themselves.

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He's an even bigger schmuck than you think...
Posted by: jgrossnas on Apr 7, 2008 8:00 AM   
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Remember that this is also the guy who (in Sept 06) voted to get rid of habeus corpus for anyone that the Bush team considered an 'enemy combatant'. He's also been pushing a sweeping, broad-ranging bill that would give the FCC the power to regulate television violence- that's scary because the FCC likes to sew confusion about its rulings and adopt shifting standards as it sees fit.

I wonder if they have to hose the slime of his seat every time Jay leaves the Senate chamber...

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Target West Virginia
Posted by: Southern Gal on Apr 7, 2008 8:28 AM   
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Surely there must be a candidate out there in West Virginia that the progressive movement can support to replace Jay. Turn the heat on.

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» RE: Target West Virginia Posted by: Lauren
We let it happen
Posted by: willymack on Apr 7, 2008 8:55 AM   
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When we first "elected" a doddering old bumblewit in 1984 and allowed poppy bush's boys shove his degenerate son down our throats in 2000, and again in 2004. I wonder what our excuse for inaction will be when yet enother "election" is falsified in 2008. Every time we try to accomodate thugs by our acquiescence, we embloden them to ever greater crimes against our people and the rest of humanity. We as a people have a choice to either allow "business as usual" to continue screwing us over or to put a stop to the bullying and theft by walking off the job and taking to the streets. The trick here is to get ENOUGH people on board, enough to bring the country to a standstill. That should get somebody's attention, don't you think?

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John D. Rockefeller ("jay") at opensecrets:
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Apr 7, 2008 10:06 AM   
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Guess "John D." didn't go over to well with the focus groups, did it?

Net worth: $55,878,022 to $127,548,003

Top contributors, by employees of these firms:

AT&T Inc - $37,600
K&L Gates - $34,100
Peabody Energy - $32,200
Verizon Communications - $30,500
UAL Corp - $28,100
Comcast Corp - $26,500

Now, Rockefeller did publicly push for an investigation into WMD claims in 2005 (which he supported!) but it was purely political theater.

We know this because now John D. Rockefeller is the chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, and he has happily buried the Iraqi WMD investigation under a blanket:

Press Release of Intelligence Committee
Rockefeller and Bond Announce Committee Completes Section of Phase II Looking at Accuracy of Pre-War Intelligence on Post-War Iraq

--Report to be Sent for Declassification and Could be Released Within Weeks--

Contact: Wendy Morigi (Rockefeller) (202) 224-6101;Shana Marchio (Bond) (202) 224-0309
Tuesday, May 8, 2007
. . .The Committee will submit the report to the Director of National Intelligence for classification review. Following declassification, the Committee will release the report to the public.
- We've heard nothing since. Call them up and ask where it is!

Furthermore, Rockefeller was a backer of the telecom immunity bill that gave limited immunity to telecoms. See Wired: Democratic Lawmaker Pushing Immunity Is Newly Flush With Telco Cash

(Here, just for fun, are the top ten wealthiest Congressmembers:)

Jane Harman (D-Calif)
$409,426,887

Darrell Issa (R-Calif)
$337,440,028

John Kerry (D-Mass)
$267,789,805

Vernon Buchanan (R-Fla)
$191,695,634

Herb Kohl (D-Wis)
$171,423,011

Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass)
$102,822,519

Jay Rockefeller (D-WVa)
$91,713,012

Robin Hayes (R-NC)
$82,552,081

Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif)
$79,555,657

Frank R. Lautenberg (D-NJ)
$79,051,090

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Just another one
Posted by: truthfinder on Apr 7, 2008 10:26 AM   
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He's just another faux Democrat like the Clintons are and Libermann was. If you want to get rid of these lobby whores, tune in to C-Span this week. John Rauh from Just $6 will be talking about campaign reform that has a chance to work.

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alternet, when will you be honest?
Posted by: login@bugmenot.com on Apr 7, 2008 12:59 PM   
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hey its great to see that our readers and commenters at least are aware of the threat posed by the Rockefeller family and their partners in crime. the bushes, the clintons... but shouldnt alternet be doing this for us? why do we have to do it in the comments section? when will alternet admit the truth? the only way we can get this to happen is by lobbying alternet to change their ways! start exposing the global elite! why even consider hillary clinton for president? how can anyone take her seriously?? dont you realize that allowing our media to perpetuate this garbage is whats keeping us down? alternet, you need to do a better job of fighting big brother, the shadow government and the elite scum that think they own us!

http://www.infowars.com/
http://www.americanfreepress.net/
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/

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rockefeller = EVIL
Posted by: login@bugmenot.com on Apr 7, 2008 1:03 PM   
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READERS! do you agree? disagree? please contribute your opinion! should alternet be more anti-establishment? am i way off the average here? PLEASE let me know!

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» RE: rockefeller = EVIL Posted by: Canyonlands
alternet when will you admit the truth?
Posted by: login@bugmenot.com on Apr 7, 2008 1:11 PM   
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very sorry for the triple post folks, im a total spaz...

but heres daniel estulin, investagative journalist and author of "the true story of the BILDERBERG group". def check it out from ur local library!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Estulin
http://www.danielestulin.com/?idioma=en

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» RE: bugmenot Posted by: Moore Hognutz
Fletcher Prouty's Secret Team works FOR this guy...
Posted by: Canyonlands on Apr 7, 2008 1:45 PM   
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and his dynastic and secretive family. No one should ever make the mistake that these fascists are stupid, as they are getting exactly what they want and they're doing much better in this crisis than we are.

Col Prouty exposes the Secret Team in his famously suppressed 1973 book of the same name. The team being the most-trusted, top members of the intelligence community who do the dirty deeds and cover them up with various layers of cleverly crafted lies to ALWAYS leave the gov't with plausible deniability.

Of course Rockefeller is on the intelligence committee, just as Allen Dulles HAD to be on the Warren Commission. They "guide" things along to meet their agenda.

It seems that Rockefeller was electable in W.Va just as Cheney was electable in Wyoming and Hillary...never mind.

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WV comments relevant, others comments questionable
Posted by: whealeydj on Apr 7, 2008 2:08 PM   
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Politicians follow their constitutents if they speak up, but their contributors when they dont. Jay is a carpetbagger in many WV eyes so he did what he thought coincided with his constituents feelings.to do naything to win the war on terror. he will change his mind only if he gets a strong run from a native West Virginian saying the cost of the war is too high. at a minimum Rockefeller should seek pardons for west Virginian grunts from Abu Ghraid scandals that were follwing suggestions of Rumsfeld and Yoo

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DO A WEB SEARCH ON
Posted by: nikolai on Apr 7, 2008 3:12 PM   
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"The Fed" or "Federal Reserve" and educate yourselves if you haven't done so already.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-466210540567002553

The short version is that "The Fed" is about as "federal" as Fed-X. The Fed is merely a group of private banks with 5000 members of whom 300 are secret core members (you can probably imagine who some of them are) who print and are in control of the distribution (and are PROFITING from printing)of American currency. They print up the currency then charge the U.S. taxpayer VIA THE IRS for; 1. Printing costs, 2. Face value and 3. INTEREST, for printing up currency from a little paper and ink. (The cost of printing up 100 million dollars in various denominations is approx $80,000). Not only that, they do not have to (nor do they) account for the amount of currency they print up and "distribute"! Also, not many people know that the Bank of London(English) and the House of Rothschild(Austrian) are part of the "Fed" and ALL MAJOR AMERICAN "FEDERAL" BANKING DECISIONS are run through them. This is TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, as the American taxpayer is taxed by the IRS to pay back the Fed for printing up this fiat currency! This is why we fought the Revolutionary War! What happened and why? Do a web search and educate yourself and pass the word. One more thing, one poster mentioned martial law would be enforced by U.N./foreign troops. This IS TRUE! Do yourselves yet another favor and do a web search on "tackamarks".

http://www.tackamarks.freeservers.com/

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Blue Blue Blue Dog Dog Dog
Posted by: herbal on Apr 7, 2008 3:56 PM   
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The Democratic Party, rest its dear departed soul, is reincarnated into the American single party system.

Lest we miss an important opportunity, in these days of despair, there may be a way out of the dilemma of impracticality of a 3rd Party that results from the Electoral College poison pill. The Progressive majority of Democrats, who seem to have conniptions over the Jay Rockefeller Blue Dogs, can reach out to form a coalition with the old line Eisenhower populist Republicans, sometimes refering to themselves as Libertarians.

As the economic crash advances, there will be many Republicans defined out of their party by definition.

New joke: What is the definition of a Republican constituent? Answer: A Billionaire (remember the Billionaires Club in 2004?)

Soon to be a joke: What is the definition of a Republican Party member? Answer: A Billionaire. Post crash.

The new discontent of Progressives with the Alternet reported war plans of Hillary and Obama and the discontent of Republican Senators with hothead McCain could lead to the nomination of a Ventura or Ron Paul. And with the coming Democratic landslide in Congressional elections, it is certain we will have a Congress to protect the domestic platform of the old line Democrats. Could this prospect be better than a Democratic President that is weak in foreign Policy and ending the damned war? Why not Ron Paul for foreign (isolationist) disengagement coupled with a user friendly Democratic Senate and House? Scary? Watch his UTube interviews. "No more foreign interventionism." "Eliminate the foreign military and reinvest that budget in domestic spending; we won't need entitlements with the prosperity we could have with the elimination of militarism." Though he has been vilified by the corporate press, why should Progressives believe what the corporatists have said about Ron Paul, MD any more than what they have said about Geo. W Bush??
Everyone cross over to vote Republican for Ron Paul in the remaining primaries. Scary McCain is going to be dumped. Make the best of it. Under either party banner a Kucinich Paul or Paul Kucinich ticket would attain near nirvana.

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Good God folks...
Posted by: ShrubtheWarcriminal on Apr 7, 2008 4:35 PM   
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...the man is a ROCKEFELLER!!! This should come as no surprise to anyone with half a brain.

He comes from a family of corporate fascists. These are people, along with the Bushes, that cavorted with the Nazis.

This offense is like breathing in and out for him, as natural as can be. Give me a break, tell me something shocking, like he had dinner with the devil and was told that his camel had fit through the eye of a needle.

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Jay's minding the store like a good lad
Posted by: Moore Hognutz on Apr 7, 2008 5:28 PM   
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Who owns half the mineral rights in West Virginia? The Chase. So why not own a Senator. Take two or three -- they're small. The DuPonts get to have two them for the small price of paying attention...

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I thank thoughtcriminal for his remarks
Posted by: ladybroadoak33 on Apr 7, 2008 6:40 PM   
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and I just want to say that posting this article on Jay Rockefeller seemed to me a very good sign.

Both John Werner and "Jay" sure need a look at from time to time and their actions never buried.

Both are war criminals of the highest rank and in any list drawn up in the future for INDICTMENT and IMPRISONMENT should surely be included.

Sigh, sometimes I think the only real answer is a protectorite appointed lead by well trained international law JAGS to ruthlessly cover all the damage that has been done in OUR NAMES since the bombing of Kosava under Clinton. And all the dirt on drug dealing left out of Iran Contra put on the table as well.

That work would keep thousands at work for many years.
IMPEACH INDICT IMPRISON

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Thanks for spur
Posted by: mwildfire on Apr 7, 2008 7:19 PM   
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I keep meaning to write an op-ed or letter to the editor about why we need to dump Jay--although I suppose he has no opposition. This article helps to spur me to get around to it, and thoughtcriminal's research will be a help, too.
Bobbie Byrd is a coal whore, like every WV politician, but at least he stands up for the Constitution and speaks up against this filthy war. It's time he took the junior senator from WV to the woodshed for some much-needed correction. Don't forget the Military Commissions Act--his vote for that infuriated me. As I have been saying in my letters to him, every member of Congress has sworn a vow to defend the Constitution against all enemies, FOREIGN OR DOMESTIC, and their refusal to do so means they have violated their oaths of office and should be removed without even the need for an election. It's time to send these sentiments to the Charleston Gazette...

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"Rockefeller helpless like rich mans child..!"
Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on Apr 7, 2008 7:32 PM   
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Jay Rockefeller better than anyone knows other than David Rockefeller that The American Republic is history and that if he speaks out tells the truth of this he's deader than a door knob in Detroit..!

Rockefeller knows The Bliderberg Group have taken over and David Rockefeller would whack him quicker than most if he stays out of line..Rockefeller and Prescott Bush's International fascist wet dream is almost now complete and will soon be realty...!

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What do you expect???
Posted by: Idunno on Apr 7, 2008 9:27 PM   
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Do you think anyone from the Rockefeller family is concerned about the human rights of common citizens? He is obviously part of the machine that is attempting to dismantle the freedoms of the common man. Ask him if he thinks the Amero is a good idea. He probably helped design it. All he's thinking is "ONE WORLD ORDER" !!! God help us all.

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P.S. google AARON RUSSO
Posted by: nikolai on Apr 8, 2008 12:46 AM   
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and see what he has to say about David Rockefeller

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Rockefeller / Coal and capital
Posted by: Bushmaster on Apr 8, 2008 12:50 AM   
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It's no mystery to me why Rockefeller is in West Virginia. It's coal / energy.

The Ludlow Massacre http://www.du.edu/anthro/ludlow/cfphoto.html of 1914 shows the intent of the Rockefeller family and where they stand.

Can anyone with a knowledge of history involving the rich believe that when they get into politics that they will do anything but try and preserve corporate interests?

Further, electing anyone to congress who is wealthy is a foolish idea if you want common sense to prevail and your life / circumstances to improve.

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Typical senator?
Posted by: socrates2 on Apr 9, 2008 9:27 PM   
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Back in the mid-'70's one of my college History profs used to call the Senate "a country club for idiot sons of millionaires."
I guess that pretty much characterizes "old Jay." Or in his words,
"As you know, I am neither a technician nor an attorney."
No, and he ain't _much_ of a Senator, either...

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