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Democracy and Elections

Obama Memo to Press: Florida Doesn't Count

By Steven Rosenfeld, AlterNet. Posted January 29, 2008.


Clinton camp poised to declare victory in state with no delegates.

Sen. Barack Obama's campaign is encouraging the national media not to fall for a Clinton campaign declaration of victory in Florida's Primary election today, because the state cannot award delegates to the Democratic Party's national nominating convention. Florida and Michigan both were penalized after scheduling early votes without national party approval.

"The Clinton campaign had a (media conference) call that Florida should be covered by all you folks in a serious fashion," said Sen. John Kerry, D-MA, and an Obama supporter. "What this race is about right now is delegates. The bottom line is that Florida does not offer any delegates. It should not be a spin race, a fabricated race."

Kerry said Florida is a state where Obama, former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina, and Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, signed pledges not to campaign after the Democratic National Committee stripped it of delegates for moving its primary date up without national party approval.

Yet Clinton campaign allies, notably the AFSCME labor union has been "spending tons of money" there, Kerry said, to create a symbolic Clinton victory before Feb. 5 elections in 22 states. Moreover, Hillary Clinton will be in Florida tonight, to thank supporters after today's votes are tallied.

While the Clinton campaign may not win any delegates, it no doubt seeks to project a media image of restored momentum after losing to Obama by a two-to-one margin in South Carolina on Saturday.

"We think it is a very political move and voters will see it as too cute by half," said Obama Campaign Manager David Plouffe, who also noted that his main opponent, Hillary Clinton, appears to be changing her position on whether Michigan's delegates ought to be seated at the Democratic Convention.

The campaign officials also said Obama was well-organized in the 22 states voting a week from today with 500 staffers and 75,000 active volunteers. He said the campaign has raised $5 million online since winning Saturday's South Carolina Primary. He said the campaign had 13,000 volunteers in that state, a figure slightly less than what the campaign said last weekend.

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Steven Rosenfeld is a senior fellow at Alternet.org and co-author of "What Happened in Ohio: A Documentary Record of Theft and Fraud in the 2004 Election," with Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman (The New Press, 2006).

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Presidentialufo
Posted by: presidential on Jan 29, 2008 4:33 PM   
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Senator Obama is claiming Florida should not be part of the primary process....so... did he take campaign contributions from the state??

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Anyone can be a friend of the Clintons!
Posted by: carbon-based on Jan 29, 2008 6:37 PM   
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So Hillary got the supports of Hastings.. Wasn't he impeached from his federal judge job for taking bribes?

She isn't to particular is she?

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Donald Duck ties Mickey Mouse at Florida Democratic Primary
Posted by: katefranklin on Jan 29, 2008 6:44 PM   
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Given that meaningless garbage passes for news these days, it should come as no surprise that scores of reporters go ahead and trumpet news about a zero delegate Florida contest.

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Hillary
Posted by: fjstratford on Jan 30, 2008 12:11 AM   
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Go Hillary! You can bring about the necessary improvements that this country sorely needs!

You won Florida EVEN WHEN OBAMA BROKE HIS PROMISE BY AND ADVERTISING IN FLORIDA!

Best of all Hillary won the late deciders! The tide has turned! Hillary is on the ascendant!

Hillary Hillary Hillary!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/22900729# 22900729

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What is Hillary?
Posted by: herbal on Jan 30, 2008 4:52 AM   
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See Hillary Clinton speak for herself here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvuzMWcz0kU

Then see the company she keeps with Rev, Hagee of Christian Zionist cult here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exdsB5D1r7Y

She advocated nuclear war against Iran and has never repudiated war in any form.

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» RE: What is Hillary? Posted by: wavydavy
Hillary Shows She Cares about Florida Voters!
Posted by: deatonfl on Jan 30, 2008 6:08 AM   
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First off as a Floridian let me tell you that we have been told by numerous policial insiders that in the end, Florida's delegates WILL BE SEATED! Horray for Hillary. Obama claims he kept the pledge however he was running campaign commericials in Florida several weeks before the primary....in violation of the pledge. Sorry folks, he's a politician like all the rest trying to do whatever it takes to win. If Florida doesn't count as he said, why did he spend money to run commercials here? He did it because Hillary had a huge amount of support in Florida and he was hoping to tap into that and somehow downplay her decisive win. Didn't happen! Why did he make no appearances or say anything about the Florida primary results? Because he is snubbing his nose at Floridians to further his own political agenda....we will remember this. Lastly, I like Obama and would support him if he were our candidate but you people need to take off the rose colored glasses in regards to his campaign.

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There she goes again
Posted by: revjmike on Jan 30, 2008 9:29 AM   
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Hillary Clinton has again shown she has no qualms about changing the rules to satisfy her ego.

That she (and her supporters) are trying to claim a victory in a state where she was apparently the only one to step foot prior to the primary is dishonest at least if not diabolical.

Obama, Edwards (who has dropped out), and Cliinton all got the same delegate count in Florida:
0, 0, 0. That's the REAL news that ought to be getting reported.

This doesn't, of course, mean Billary won't try to steal other elections by the lie. It's been their methodology for nearly three decades.

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» RE: There she goes again Posted by: ramster1
» RE: There she goes again Posted by: wavydavy
Bob
Posted by: ramster1 on Jan 30, 2008 2:11 PM   
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One and a half million Democrats voted in this Florida primary. What is Obama telling them? Their votes didn't count? They should have stayed home? If Obama truly believed that, why did he run TV ads in Florida? It looks like Obama's people have tried to put out a "sour grapes" report every time Clinton wins. Unfortunately, the press usually buys into it.

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So if Barack had won Florida instead, it still doesn't count.
Posted by: xvictor on Jan 30, 2008 3:14 PM   
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That should be the logical flow of the argument.

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Insanity
Posted by: jasonkli on Feb 4, 2008 5:42 AM   
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Are you Clinton people insane? They signed a pledge that Florida wouldn't count and now it should because Clinton won. That's the most insane thing I've heard since the last comment by a Clinton supporter. You can't change the rules in the middle of the game or after. Obama is correct Florida doesn't count this year and every candidate agreed. Why would they say it counts after the results? Do you honestly believe that Clinton would support the vote counting if she would have lost? If you do then I got some "magic" beans to sell you.

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