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Democracy and Elections

Voter Purges Could Cause Florida-like Presidential Recounts

By Steven Rosenfeld, AlterNet. Posted October 9, 2008.


If the November vote is close, key swing states that have been illegally rejecting voters could become recount battlegrounds like Florida.
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With less than four weeks to go before the 2008 presidential vote, new practices in key swing states to update voter rolls are coming under fire for mistakes that could involve rejecting tens of thousands of legitimate voters, suggesting that close vote counts in these states could lead to legal fights echoing Florida's presidential recount in 2000.

According to a New York Times report on Oct. 9, key swing states -- including Nevada, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Indiana and Missouri -- have been using federal Social Security data to verify voter registration information from established and potential voters. The Social Security data, which is used to authenticate voters' identity but is known to be error-prone, has been used to purge "tens of thousands" of voters already on voter rolls, the Times reported, as well as to reject numerous new voter registration applications.

Of 7.7 million inquiries by states to the Social Security Administration to verify voter applications in 2008, nearly 2.4 million resulted in "non matches," according to the agency, which Monday issued a statement urging election officials in six states -- Alabama, Georgia, Indiana, Nevada, North Carolina and Ohio -- to "review their procedures."

This past summer, AlterNet reported that Michigan, Kansas and Louisiana were using drivers' license databases in a similar manner to purge voters. In both instances, whether using Social Security or motor vehicle data, it is difficult to fully know how voter rolls will be affected because different states and counties have differing procedures on purging and removing voters, and because this process is often secretive.

What's clear to leading voting rights attorneys, however, is that this "name-matching" process not only violates the guiding federal law on removing voters, the National Voter Registration Act, and violates the guiding federal law on accepting vote registrations, the National Voting Rights Act, but also creates a new basis to challenge presidential results if the vote count is close on November 4.

Unless there is litigation to force states to follow these federal laws before Election Day and restore purged voters and accept registrations from new voters, a close vote count in swing states could see post-Election Day legal fights over provisional ballots. These are ballots issued to voters whose names are not on voter lists and are later validated before they are counted. Thus, a fight over provisional ballots in 2008 could echo the fight over hanging chads -- or punches in paper ballots -- in Florida in 2000.

"I think it is a real risk," said Brenda Wright, legal director of The National Voting Rights Institute at Demos, a public interest law firm. "If you have a situation where people are showing up who think they are registered to vote, that is where provisional ballots come in. The question is will those ballots be counted. If there are thousands of provisional ballots in a number of states, there's a danger that they may not all be counted."

"There will be an effort by the civil rights community to figure out what to do," said Jon Greenbaum, Voting Rights Program director at the Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights Under Law.

"There is the potential the perfect storm is developing," said Gerry Hebert, executive director of the Campaign Legal Center, another public-interest law firm. "New voters should be added to the rolls immediately, and then vetted and sent letters if there are problems."

The scenario of post-Election Day litigation is not speculation. Across the country, GOP partisans already have filed lawsuits over voter registration issues or said they planned to pursue polling place challenges of individual voter registrations in states such as Ohio, Wisconsin and Michigan. In federal court in Ohio, a hearing was held Thursday on a GOP suit seeking to force the state to use the Social Security data to vet new voters.

"It does add a whole other dimension to the potential debates on what is the vote," said Kimball Brace, director of Election Data Services, a Washington consulting firm. "I was Al Gore's expert in Florida on this. ... In 2000, we were concerned with the voting equipment, and what happened with under- and over-votes. Now, if you are a lawyer looking at challenges, you don't only look at that but at the voter side as well."

Roots of the Problem

The name-matching issue has its roots in the federal legislation that was passed after the 2000 presidential election debacle in Florida -- the Help America Vote Act of 2002. Under that law, states were instructed to compile statewide voter lists in contrast to lists that previously were maintained at the local level. States also were allowed to use Social Security data to verify registrations, but only as a last resort after other forms of voter ID could not be corroborated.


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Steven Rosenfeld is a senior fellow at Alternet.org and author of Count My Vote: A Citizen's Guide to Voting (AlterNet Books, 2008).

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Posted by: ncvoter on Oct 9, 2008 7:59 PM   
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NY Times yesterday ran a scantily researched article on voter purges in several states including Ohio, “States’ Actions to Block Voters Appear Illegal” (10/08/08) . It uses lots of verb constructions with “seems,” “appears,” or “may have . . .,” without much elaboration or direct reporting.

The NY Times reporter did not call the NC election officials, nor call any local advocacy groups.

North Carolina does not conduct "purges" of the voting rolls in the 90 day leadup to the election. In fact, NC Election Officials will not consider making unfair purges at any time:

The Director of the State Board of Elections resisted efforts by DOJ bad boy John Tanner earlier this year when Tanner said NC had too many voters! See Why is the DoJ Snooping Into NC's Voter Rolls

The State Board also fought off the attempts of the partisan state auditor who wanted more voters removed from the rolls.

North Carolina got rid of the "No Match No Vote" law last year, thanks to NC Verified Voting's efforts. See Making Sure It Counts

If a voter doesn't match, they are still registered and will get a regular ballot if they show some sort of ID. NC does not require photo ID, so many people can find something to show who they are.

North Carolina has registered nearly 700,000 people this year, plus we have same day registration during early voting.

The NY Times should be attacking the Social Security Dept.

See Bad timing or last ditch effort to supress new voters?
A recent alert by the Social Security Administration announces that the agency plans to shut down its databases for maintenance from October 11 through October 13. How will this hurt new voters? Election officials would lose 4 days of processing time needed to handle new registrants. Elections staff are already overworked at this time of the year and this is another straw on the camel's back.

Let the NY Times investigate that. And make a phone call or two when you write a story.

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Purges Pale in Comparison to Hacking Elelection Like Last two
Posted by: 911FalseFlag on Oct 10, 2008 4:21 AM   
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Cyber Security Expert: Hackers Planning To Steal Election For McCain

Spoonamore says electronic voting machines represent national security threat, Israel, China and Russia have capability to rig presidential outcome

Paul Joseph Watson
[1] Prison Planet
Tuesday, September 30, 2008

Stephen Spoonamore warns in a new interview that electronic voting machines represent a national security threat and that hackers are already planning to steal the 2008 presidential election for John McCain.

Spoonamore is a GOP member and a lifelong Republican, having worked on election campaigns with Rudy Giuliani and Michael Bloomberg. He also has 20 years worth of experience in encrypted and networked communications systems for banks, TV, telecommunications, EMS, Military and other uses.

In an ten part You Tube interview, Spoonamore warns that hackers are planning to steal the election on behalf of the McCain camp and even predicts the margin of victory, that McCain will make a “shocking recovery” and win 51.2 percent of the vote with three electoral votes over Obama.

“This is a national security threat,” said Spoonamore, “it is very possible for a foreign government to begin manipulating that transmission of code just as they attempt to do fairly often with our financial data….we deal with it every day on the commercial side,” he added, noting that China, and not the American people, has a greater chance of choosing the next U.S. president.
Watch his videos on www.911insidejob.net

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» RE: Definitely a MUST SEE!! Posted by: Purple Girl
If We Don't Have Honest Elections
Posted by: Last Chance on Oct 10, 2008 5:46 AM   
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the people are defenseless against the organized corporate criminals who are dragging us down into social chaos.

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Lilly
Posted by: Lilly on Oct 10, 2008 6:05 AM   
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A couple of weeks ago I registered voters at a table set up in the supermarket. This was part of a city-wide voter registration drive that weekend. During the time I was there, we saw an astonishing number of people who had at one time been registered but had not voted for years and now wanted to vote. They simply did not know whether they were still registered, and in many, many cases they had moved or changed their names. Our instructions were to have them register again and any duplicate registrations would be discarded. Now that the GOP has begun its own drive---to prove Democratic vote fraud even if they have to invent it---I am wondering how many of my registrants will be denied a vote.

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Striking the Match to a Powder Keg
Posted by: Purple Girl on Oct 10, 2008 6:14 AM   
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Take heed of the Number of New Registrants Boys..Notice the increasing ineffectiveness of the 'Koolaid' tactics, the Dwindling numbers at McCain/Palin Rallies, Listen to the Tone of the Blogs...another Election Theft will cause Your Worst Nightmares....The Natives aren't Just Restless, We are Bloodthirsty!
Considering the Numerous High Crimes which could be leveled against so many...Taking Your Toys and Going Home Right NOW is strongly Recommended.
No doubt they Know the Real Numbers Better than US, so getting a ball park head count on how many will be on the Lawn of 1600 Pennsylvania Blvd, Clinging to the Gods,Guns and The Constitution... should be relatively simple!
Oh and it won't just be a Nixon era Flashback...You have Destroyed our Economy...We'll be taking it to the Streets...Like Wall Street,and K Street.
The REAL Democratic Party has spent far too long mincing Words....The Neo Cons are not Just Heretics, they are Traitors to US and Humanity too!They have even Treated Those who have committed themselves to Our Safety as disposable Items....think The Troops, Vets, Reserves, cops, firefighters...Will Defend You? Not any that are True Patriots and that you have Fucked Over! In fact They may Lead the Way!
So Stock Up on Recycled Paper Plates my Truely Patriotic Friends..We're 'Fixin' to have a head catching Contest!

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» Sans America Posted by: Last Chance
WHERE THERE'S A WILL THERE'S A WAY
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Oct 10, 2008 6:42 AM   
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People can demand to put their vote in writing, sign it and it has to be counted. I believe it's called "intent to vote". The formal voting aparatus is for speed and convenience. So much of this is B.S. Believing it is the greatest danger. Thanks, ANNA

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There is an easy fix.
Posted by: Ky Lake Dave on Oct 10, 2008 7:21 AM   
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ACRON has caused a serious mess. They have been caught cheating in several states. Now voters are concerned that this election could be stolen by the Democrats. Obama should win easily so why have this cloud of doubt over his head? A stolen election is a stolen election and is not good for either party.
The fix? Simply ask for a vaild ID from the voter at the polls prior to thier voting. If the registration is false, refuse to let them vote. You are asked to produce ID to drive, buy a beer or even cash a check. Isn't validating the ligitimacy of a a legal voter more important than verifying the legal age of the dude buying a beer? No one would like to see voter fraud would they?

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Listen up Americans, please...
Posted by: Knowmad on Oct 10, 2008 9:17 AM   
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For those new here, or unware, the trolls from the 'other' side of truth who often show up usually have one thing in mind: sowing confusion and misinformation in an attempt to distract and throw you off your game. They have a need to feel they're contributing to their 'cause'; doing something constructive - to their minds at least.

The thing is, you're far too often falling for their ruse - maybe because it's so obvious you don't notice it - and fencing with these unfortunates. The current "Karl Ben" is a good example of these types (be aware that many of them are past pests under a new handle - they've mastered that 'subtle trick' to throw us off).

Regardless, they are dangerous because, though every sign is Obama will win in a walk, you can't ever forget what your current mob of righties-in-power are capable of. If you get an "October/November suprise", or they simply cheat - something they seem to have no moral difficulty with - you'll need everthing you've got if you are to prevail.

So, I suggest you simply not engage these misguided ones. There are new visitors to Alternet every day, and some just might be naive or gullible enough to be taken in - you really can't afford that. Simply identify the interlopers in the subject line, tell them goodbye and don't interact with them any more. I've found they're much like children: won't stay around long if they're not getting attention...after they've thrown one or two temper-tantrums of course.

Ignore them - the small stuff - and move on to what's important: dragging your country back from the brink.

Cheers.

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Evicted homeowners should be allowed to vote.
Posted by: zrants on Oct 10, 2008 12:01 PM   
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Purging voters at a time when thousands of homeowners have been evicted and forced to leave their residences during the last few months is a good way to assure the victims of the system don't vote against it. This is the lowest kind of discrimination.

zrants

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The Age of Positivity and Community is coming!
Posted by: thinkverybig on Oct 10, 2008 12:24 PM   
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Your help is needed. If you're ready for change, please share this video with all of your family and friends.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM58nqX1ehE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN_pGy_1bEg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD0iAQN7VPY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpfHz_WeXHw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH9BtZwTyHo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWVGsuNecYg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UssvnQMn-EM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdfvQmh3b90

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03Enn5yiY-0



Go to youtube and do a search for "thinkverybig" and watch all of those videos. The one called "We Must Change" would be fitting to recite at Obama's Inauguration.

Here's a community organizer that's reached out to over 20,000 youth and has a goal of touching a million by teaching them the game of life using the game of chess. Click below to watch video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLFENGymr34

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Vote early
Posted by: Jeanne on Oct 10, 2008 1:03 PM   
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and vote on a paper ballot. It would behoove voters to vote absentee early, on a paper ballot. Any hankypanky will show up before election day; and, if the vote has to be contested, then there is the paper trail available for recount. I expect that it will be a tooth and nail battle to have a fair and accurate count.

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Time for an International Election Observation scheme?
Posted by: Daidactic on Oct 10, 2008 2:03 PM   
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It is fairly common for interntional observers to visit countries where it is suspected that election-rigging might occur - like Zimbabwe -
but they don't always succeed in stopping it.
Nevertheless, it is time that the UN was let in to watch the US Presidential elections, I believe. This is a serious but not solemn suggestion as the thought of the UN intervening in the USA would be a wonderful irony....

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Registration "Fraud" is a Non-Issue
Posted by: bluesmanjohnson on Oct 12, 2008 9:32 PM   
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Much is made of registration groups that turn in applications for Daffy Duck and I.P Daily. "Voter fraud" they cry.

Here's the thing: often, these drives are conducted by people that are paid by the registration. Thus, they'll play dumb and sign up anyone - even the recently celebrated ten year old girl I keep reading about on the Fox ticker. BUT THE IMPORTANT PART IS: those fake non-existant people that get registered don't show up to vote. That ten year old girl wouldn't be able to vote when the time came. Even if a local voter roll has the names Daffy Duck and I.P. Daily on them, from b.s. registrations, there's no fraud, as Daffy Duck can't show up and vote. For the same reason, the occasional dead person on a voter roll (and as an attorney that does election work, I can tell 'ya this happens all the time), is not fraud - they are not voting.

In every state, you have to identify yourself in front of a public official at some stage of the process. Thus, the Ducks and Dailys do nothing more than make for bad headlines and more hysteria

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