Every time I hear about Obama's move toward the "center" or his "post-partisan" agenda I feel like dusting off my old Ralph Nader buttons.

David Sirota has nailed it. The "Center" really means the "elite center" and Obama's embracing of this center does not bode well. After thirty years of class warfare waged by the right against working class Americans, I don't want post-partianship. I want someone willing to fight for justice and fight for peace. I don't want someone who will compromise with the Right Wing. I want someone who can beat them.

Post-Partianship really means accommodation with the Right Wing, which is the last thing this country needs right now. Only a Democrat would move toward the "center" and "work" with the Right Wing at a time when the conservative agenda has been completely discredited by every available fact.

Obama might be able to win the election, but I doubt he'll be able to win back the possibility of a fair deal for working class Americans. Perhaps most discouraging is the idea that Obama could care less about doing so. He seems more willing to serve the country's crooked elites than to actually fight them.

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Kucinich is taking names from supporters of his articles of impeachment against the BUSH/CHENEY Admin.

This is something we can do NOW and it IS important! PLEASE CALL AND PASS THIS ON:

1-202-224-3121

You can also let Rep. Conyers know you appreciate the work he is doing to bring justice and possible indictments against Rove and others in the BUSH regime, same number.

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These voices of the status quo do not want the status quo challenged. They deliberately broadcast messages crafted to get us -- the mainstream -- to question our mainstream-ness, while convincing politicians that the Establishment's extremism represents a responsible middle ground.

They thrive on controversy. Controversy improves ratings and that is all they care about. I don't believe there is a vast 'mainstream news conspiracy' to convince politicians or anyone else of anything. In fact the vastness of such a conspiracy is ludicrous.

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And it is not just Washington DC. It is all of corporate America. The MSM is in lockstep, indeed is part of the corporate control of America.

And journalists, TV, radio and newspapers wonder why they held in such distrust and why their subscribers and numbers are dropping. The America they describe only belated describes the situation most Americans find them selves in and then prescribes even more corporate power as the remedy.

The answer is to cancel the paper, cancel the magazines ( except the independents like The Nation, Mother Jones), watch PBS not private TV and listen for boycotts of companies and for calls for letters or emails to be sent to government or corporations.

The Main Stream Media is the voice of the Beast ... the megaphone of corporate socialism.

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Having graduated a year ago from Georgetown University in DC, I agree with the notion that Washington's sense of "center" is quite off-balance.

Back in high school, I was a pretty radical left-liberal thinker; but being in the intense social atmosphere of Georgetown, in the belly of the beast (so to speak) and heavily influenced by elitist power-broker mentalities, I found myself drifting more and more towards a very complacent, power-focused sense of "center".

Thank the Spirit I'm now back in sunny, crunchy Denver!

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I HAD HOPE. But with Obama going centrist, well, there is no hope for me left.

Guess Obama's just another one of the good ol' boys. What happened to Obama? Who are his advisors? Does Obama have his head on straight?

I can't vote for McCain. Right now, I am disappointed in Obama. I sure hope he turns himself around and gets rid of his dumb advisors. I am also NOT giving Obama any more money, that is for sure. What a sucker I was to think that he really was something different. He's just another politico, and I can't support they way he seems to be heading. Egads, how disappointing.

Guess I'll have to vote GREEN Party. At least the two woman of color on the Green Party's ticket are representing me. McCain and Obama sure ain't. McCain is plain to involved in the politics. And Obama "turned" on the people. Can't trust the Republicans; can't trust the Democrats. Haven't had a good president in over 40 years. Clinton was a joke, even though I did vote for him.

We need more than the two party system. We need other parties who can unlock the door.

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Kucinich, Wexler, Ellison, B. Lee, S. Jackson-Lee, L. Woolsey, M. Waters and a few more. I am outta here Fought since Vietnam I am DONE!

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While I give credence to the identification that the politicians "values and goals" are different than most of Americans, I would not give them a title of elite centrists! You are branding them with the very title that they are propagandizing, it doesn't matter if there is an "elite" in front of it. STOP IT!!!!

Let's call it for what it is, shall we? It's another right wing politician. McCain doesn't vote, Obama does, votes to dismantle the Constitution. WHile I won't vote for McCain, I can hardly fathom why I would want to vote Obama if he is so lite on the Constitution. We need real people in these offices protecting our country, not people bought and paid for by power brokers who will undermine the People at every turn. Obama is the same.

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Call it CCMSM: Corporate-controlled Mainstream Media.

It is their job to keep the corporate interests safe and in place. They are told which candidate we will vote for and then it's a done deal.

Sirota is right on with this article. Those talking head idiots that the news stations are lousy with these days make me sick. I can't watch them.

I'd like to know where the outrage is over McLame's rape joke or calling his wife a c*nt or Cindy McLame's stealing money from her own non-profit to buy illegal drugs, or the Keating Five scandal or the myriad other things that could be drudged up. The only person who mentions it is Keith Olbermann, as far as I can tell.

Can you imagine what would happen if it was discovered that Obama had called Michelle a demoralizing name, had a history of violent temper tantrums, told rape jokes or if Michelle had stolen drugs using their non-profits' money?

That would be quite the shitstorm. But since they haven't done anything like that, the rightwingers on TV can only spew crap about the New Yorker cover or Rev. Wright.... all bullshit designed to distract.

I'm not voting for Obama, and there is plenty to criticize him about politically. But the CCMSM isn't about dealing with reality, as Sirota says, it's convincing you to believe in their non-reality. No wonder I feel crazy so much of the time. Once you open your eyes to the complete insanity of it, it makes your head spin.

Bottom line is you have to get your news from a reliable source, so I pick and choose all over the web and alternative places.

We can't really change our CCMSM because the corporations will always own this country. Sort of off-topic but last night on Countdown they were talking about Phil Gramm leaving McLame's campaign and someone mentioned that Gramm's "deregulation" of corporations wasn't working so well.... what an unbelievable understatement.

Corporations dictate just about everything that goes on in this country, and democratic and rethuglican politicians are owned by them, period.

The only ones that aren't are in parties other than dem & rethug. So, vote accordingly. A vote for Obama = a vote for corporate America. A vote for McKinney = a vote for the people of America.

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Centrism is the hearth and home and burrow and den of mediocrity, incompetence and indecision...

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1. Political-Economic Foot: Depress the Accelerator pedal to its maximum depression; remember: "Pedal to the Metal" is the Operative term here.

2. Social-Cultural Foot: Depress the Brake Pedal to its maximum degree (if ABS, 'lock the darn things!).

3. Drive Careful, and have a Nice Day. And like it's said in Texas: Drive Friendly. We're all in this together, huh?

Don't worry if you hear that high-pitched humming noise getting louder and louder; that's the Perfect Engine and it is Fundamentally Sound; can't you hear it's Growth?

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He's still not as right wing as HRC. The FISA vote should move him more to Authoritarian.

http://www.politicalcompass.org/usprimaries2008

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