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Richly Deserved Bad Night for Hillary Haters in New Hampshire

By Earl Ofari Hutchinson, New America Media. Posted January 9, 2008.


The woman who they love to loathe did what they dread most, she won. But that was just the start of their dismal night.
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It was a bad night for Hillary haters in New Hampshire. First, the woman who they love to loathe did what they dread most, she won. But that was just the start of their dismal night. She held two powerful constituencies together; older women voters and core Democrats.

They, not the much overblown independents, are the true ticket to the Democratic presidential nomination and beyond that the White House. The night got even worse for them. The big smile on Clinton's face told why. It wasn't a gloat, or and I told you so, the smile was a visceral and defiant expression of a rejuvenated and even more ready to do battle Clinton. The night sunk finally into the pits for the haters who had glibly and gloatingly assured one and all that an Obama steamroll of Clinton in New Hampshire and beyond was inevitable.

Predicting inevitability is a terrible burden to dump on the shoulders of a novice presidential contender who is still at the very front of the learning curve on foreign and national domestic policy issues, talks of hope and change but is vague on just what that hope and change will be, and is still pounding out a program on health care, education, tax policy, not to mention trying to figure out what and how to get us out of Iraq.

The Hillary haters got another hard lesson in American realpolitik in New Hampshire. It's risky, no dangerous, to predict a knockout of a seasoned political fighter before the first bell even sounds. That was pretty much what they did. But they forgot many things about Clinton and the campaign. Obama had won a grand total of one state, Iowa, and even that was less than met the eye. Iowa is a mildly Democratic leaning state, with a strong independent, even contrarian tradition among many voters.

Nominations, let alone, presidential contests are seldom won based on a candidate's showing in one state, or even a handful of early primary states. There have been countless examples in recent presidential campaigns where a candidate has won big in some states, and then lost the nomination. One example is Jesse Jackson. He, not Obama, has won more state primaries than any other black presidential candidate in 1988. Yet, Jackson's candidacy ultimately floundered over the course of a long and grueling campaign. New Hampshire, not Iowa, was the first true primary state where the popular vote, party loyalties, and a candidate's campaign savvy can be measured and tested.

Clinton knows what Obama has discovered, and her legion of loathers are to blind to see, and that's that elections are won not in early popularity polls, but in tough, gritty work in the state party caucuses, recruiting crack field organizers, and dedicated volunteers. Voters elect presidents that they feel will do three things: bring stability, strength, and experience to the top spot.

In every poll, and that includes the ones that have shown Obama gaping Clinton in popularity and likeability, voters give her top marks on experience and strength (They still give Obama short shrift on both). That's another way of saying that they don't want someone in the White House that will stumble and bumble on policy issues. Bush was elected and re-elected precisely because voters got conned into thinking that they were putting a guy in and back in the White House who was tough and experienced and would not fall on his face on policy issues. They were terribly wrong. Core Democrats won't make that mistake again.

Then there's the issue of constituency strength, or more particularly, who can do the best job in identifying where their strength is and corralling it. The 2008 presidential race will come down to a showdown in Florida, several of the key Western states, and the ability to unhinge one or two Southern states out of the GOP orbit. Victories in these states can seal the White House for the Democrats. Democrats won none of them in 2000 and 2004. The key to snaring those states require a big turnout from core Democrats, women, Latinos and blacks. Clinton divvies up the black vote with Obama and beats him handily with older women, core Democrats, and Latinos in those states.

Obama did well enough in New Hampshire. He handily won the independent vote and the youth vote (although they voted in far less numbers than expected, and that's not a good sign either for the candidate that banks on riding the crest of young voters to the nomination). But it's Democrats, lots of them, that seal nominations and potentially elect presidents. New Hampshire taught the Hillary haters that, and in the process tarnished the myth of Obama inevitability. It was truly a richly deserved bad night for Hillary haters in New Hampshire.

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Earl Ofari Hutchinson is an author and political analyst. His new book is The Latino Challenge to Black America: Towards a Conversation between African-Americans and Hispanics (Middle Passage Press and Hispanic Economics New York).

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Earl Ofari Hutchinson Supports War Monger Clinton
Posted by: left_libertarian on Jan 9, 2008 3:14 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Hillary Clinton, if elected President, will keep US troops in Iraq for her term in office.

Little will change. More money for the war machine and US Empire.

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Dear Misses Clinton Shill
Posted by: g50 on Jan 9, 2008 5:00 PM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I am not a Hillary hater, in fact I started supporting her for president in 2003. However, I now support Obama. I don't hate on Hillary, but I do recognize that the hatred of Hillary exists. Pardon me for thinking presidents should try to appeal to everyone - even the irrational.

Hillary would be W. & Bill all over again. I'm sorry to say that men have dragged her down, but I'm sick of Bill, who has become boring and kind of a jerk, and am definitely sick of George, whose Hillaryesque smirk I would prefer never to see again.

That said, my support of Obama notwithstanding, I have basically suspected that Hillary would prevail. I also assume that she is privately supporting Obama, to get people excited to vote for her Vice Presidential candidate, votes she will need in November. If that is the case, or even if Obama's support manages to overwhelm the Democratic party's plan, I will be voting for the Democrat.

But listen closely. I am a Wisconsin voter who has been key in getting you one vote closer to 10 electoral votes you need. If Hillary wins and does not choose Barack as her running mate, I will be gladly voting any of the Republicans in November.

I want Barack. He is ten times better than the old-as-hell baby boomers. Now, I know you were right in all of the baby boom battles but I am kind of sick of you wanting to fight them over and over again, when you don't have to. If you all really want Hillary that badly, you can have her, but only if you give me & mine what I want. And that is politicians that will remind us nothing of Bill Clinton, George W. Bush & Hillary Clinton - the baby boom presidents. Nothing personal, but if I am going to be one of the few people whose votes actually matter, you better give me what I want. Ultimately you will need me more than I will need the Democratic party to win in Washington.

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» RE: Dear Misses Clinton Shill Posted by: Intellect
» RE: Dear Misses Clinton Shill Posted by: clocksmith
Hillary Du Jour
Posted by: AlexLawyer on Jan 9, 2008 5:09 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Let's see. The voters are tired of the partisan, militaristic status quo, so a plurality of New Hampshire Democrats vote for a candidate who is at least as hawkish and divisive as George W. Bush--a fortiori, at the same point in her career, far more. I'm sure her new personality du jour, cooked up from the menu proposed by consultants, has helped. No one cares that she hasn't shed a tear for the 4000 Americans and million Iraqis who have died in a war, founded on a patently fraudulent casus belli, that she has always gleefully supported; it's enough that she choked up about the difficulties of campaigning, riding on her husband's frayed and semen-stained coattails while portaying herself as a feminist, a strong and self-sufficient women while Bill talks as if he were running for reelection. At least she seems to have discovered the first person plural.

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» Lots of Snark, no substance Posted by: shoplifter
» RE: Lots of Snark, no substance Posted by: rinpochet
» RE: Hillary Du Jour Posted by: Intellect
» RE: Hillary Du Jour Posted by: bbfmail
Generation Cry Baby
Posted by: hole11 on Jan 9, 2008 5:44 PM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
That is what the baby boom generation is or will be known as. From their songs to their politics. All they like to do is cry.

They talk about change though. That is what they are going to leave us. Taxed with nothing but change. That is what is going to make those cry babies happy.

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» RE: Generation Cry Baby Posted by: illit
» RE: Generation Cry Baby Posted by: Intellect
Please note my lack of surprise...
Posted by: newtype_alpha on Jan 9, 2008 6:06 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
... that at the first sign of Hillary Clinton even SEEMING to be one step closer to winning the Presidency, Earl Hutchinson is having his orgasm of the new year.

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Yawn...
Posted by: shoplifter on Jan 9, 2008 7:26 PM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
She's a politician. Who's expecting her to get all warm and fuzzy and likable? She not the only one playing the game.

I do think the hatred towards Hillary is ridiculous, especially when it comes from the left. It makes us look really petty. Her voting record is actually very similar to Obama's (www.ontheissues.org).

I can only assume that the rancor directed towards her is some thinly veiled sexism and prejudice given her position - she's bearing the load of our anger towards the current administration because she is a Clinton. It's easier to hate on her because she's a woman. A lot of the media coverage focuses on this fact (that lame pearls question, her shoes, her tears) and we're picking up on the snark subconsciously. Would she be getting the same criticism if she were a man? Highly doubtful. If it's about the war, damn, how many of the other candidates voted to go? Where's the haterade there?

Give it a rest. Poo slinging is better left to the religious right, Ann Coulter, and that crazy guy who likes to picket troop funerals with his crazy family members.

And of course, the poo slinging gets directed towards the author of this piece. Come on.

Anyway, someone already wrote an article on this - if there's a good reason to HATE Hillary (like if she ran over your dog and laughed or if she is Dick Cheney), then hate her. Otherwise, just be content disliking her and let's get back to promoting good candidates rather than spending our energies tearing people down.

Or are you too in love with the witch hunt mob mentality already?

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» RE: Yawn... Posted by: carrie jean
» RE: Yawn... Posted by: Livemike
The 08 election process is just one big joke on a naive public
Posted by: georgiaorwell on Jan 9, 2008 11:56 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I admit that I've become the world's biggest cynic, but it's truly sad that people are so sucked into believing that any of this excited chatter about the voting process even matters. As far as I can tell, between the ultra conservative Supreme Court, who threw the Gore election, and the Diebold voting machines, it's not really like the little people have any say in what is actually going to happen in the coming 08 election. Yet, people get caught up in the drama like they're voting for their senior class president.

Look at the candidates: the majority, such as McCain, would have us in Iraq to infinity just as Hillary's voting record says a lot more than her words on the subject of Iraq as well. Our healthcare system is a disaster, the economy is destroying the middle class, educational loans are sinking young people before they even get their careers off to a start, the housing market has basically tanked, and nothing ever seems to change to actually help people in the US with their lives. Add to that a military, politicians, and the media who are exerting the biggest mind-control (which has actually been going on for decades) and you don't have a pretty picture in the US. Yet, people remain obstinately optimistic that they're really part of the whole process even after they're played time after time by the folks pulling their chains.

People get all worked up waving their candidates' banners and thinking that they're actually part of this play (real time), when in reality, there is so much manipulation going on that it's sickening. Otherwise, you would see a process that allowed someone like Dennis Kucinich and other more statesman like people to be part of the process. Yes, the Obama people got overly-hyped or optimistic about their candidate, and that was understandable but extremely naive - what will be interesting to see is how Bill Clinton can manage to convince the people of South Carolina that he is more black than Obama. Can he pull it off because he is the one really running. He tried to influence the process that would enable Presidents being allowed to serve a third term, and when he failed at that, he found another way to run through Hillary. Of course, she is equally using him and would never follow his advice if elected, imo.

I would rather vote for John Edwards, who has NOT accepted corporate money or Dennis Kucinich than the candidates who talk out of both sides of their mouths when their records reflect their true feelings. One thing for sure that has changed in these times is how wussy people have become - at least Nixon stepped down when he was actually held to accountability, unlike George Bush. Also, when Bill O'Reilley gets away with shoving an Obama staffer and Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh get by with making hatemongering statements, and no one is ever held to accountability these days, you know we are probably going to get just what we deserve.

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In other news...
Posted by: chomsky on Jan 10, 2008 5:21 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
In other news, Premier Election Solutions Inc (pka Diebold) results compared to hand counts seems to differ...

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» RE: In other news... Posted by: Intellect
» PES aka Diebold Posted by: illit
Diebold favors Clinton analysis + Hillarys out of state supporters get the news on how to make her a
Posted by: DanielleClarke on Jan 10, 2008 5:46 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Diebold favors Clinton analysis + Hillarys out of state supporters get the news on how to make her a winner


Diebold favors Clinton analysis

I used the Comma delimited database: NH municipalities hand count vs use Diebold machines from BlackBoxVoting.org to see if there was a deviation between the results from precincts which used hand counts and those which relied on Diebold machines. The results were astonishing. :
Updated: 5:05 AM (EST) - Results tallied for 209 out of 236 of the municipalities.

By Percentage
Method
Diebold Machines Clinton 53.23% Obama:46.77%
Hand Count 47.47% 52.53%

By Votes
Method
Diebold Machines Clinton,82860 Obama, 72807
Hand Count Clinaton, 18898 Obama, 20912

About 81% of the votes will be "counted" by the Diebold machines.
Source:http://presscue.com/node/38034
By Number of Municipalities Won
Method
Diebold Machines Clinton,54 Obama,33
Hand Count Clinton,43 Obama, 77

About 81% of the votes will be "counted" by the Diebold machines.


Hillarys out of state supporters get the news on how to make her a winner in NH

WHO CAN REGISTER http://www.sos.nh.gov/vote.htm

New Hampshire residents who will be 18 years of age or
older on election day, and a United States Citizen,
may register with the town or city clerk where they
live up to 10 days before any election. You may also
register on election day at the polling place. The
town clerk's office can inform voters of what proof of
qualification they should bring to register.

There is no minimum period of time you are required to
have lived in the state before being allowed to
register. You may register as soon as you move into
your new community.

HOW TO REGISTER
1) Apply to your town or city clerk's office. You
will be required to fill out a standard voter
registration form and will be required to show proof
of age, citizenship and domicile.
2) It may be easier for you to register with your
community's Supervisors of the Checklist. By law they
are required to meet on the Saturday 10 days prior to
each election. Check the local newspaper(s) or call
your clerk's office for the date and time of such
meeting.
3) Qualified individuals may also register to vote at
the polling place on election day at all elections.
You will be asked to show proof of age, citizenship,
and domicile.

ABSENTEE REGISTRATION
If you meet the state's voter requirements and
qualifications and are unable to register in person
because of physical disability, religious beliefs,
military service, or because of temporary absence, you
may register by mail. You should request an absentee
voter registration affidavit and a standard voter
registration form from your town/city clerk. The
absentee voter registration affidavit must be
witnessed and then both the affidavit and the voter
registration form are to be returned to your town/city
clerk.

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I am just disappointed
Posted by: steven w on Jan 10, 2008 7:20 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
that she took all that corporate money. For that reason, things will not change after Jan.'09. Special interest have such a strangle-hold on us that we could never get our people power back without heads rolling. Status quo wins.

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» RE: I am just disappointed Posted by: rinpochet
Flawed Calculus
Posted by: nc green on Jan 10, 2008 7:19 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
This is exactly the state-by-state, voter-by-voter political analysis that lost Democrats the presidency in 2000 and 2004. Both races were the Democrats' to lose, and regardless of voter fraud Democrats lost because they did not talk about the issues important to them.

If you can't back up the Rovian voter calculus with issues you believe in, you will NEVER win again. Bush actually *believes* what he says. Yes, he's that stupid, but it works. Did Kerry and Edwards really disapprove of gay marriage? Of course not. Did Gore really give a damn about the "lockbox"? Of course not. They let the Republicans define the debate, and they lost.

It looks like more than 60 percent of the country wants a Democratic president in 2008, but if you choose the person who you think can win based on this or that demographic rather than the person with issues people believe in, you'll lose again. Why do you think so many people like Ron Paul and Denis Kucinich? They have the right issues, and they believe in what they're saying! If you put that in a candidate with some charisma, you've got a winner.

So far, Hillary is just another neoconservative corporate politician. How I wish that wasn't true of the first viable female candidate for president! What does she believe in? Seriously? Other than the biggest campaign contributions? Her opponents have issues they believe in, issues that could get them elected if they wouldn't allow the Republicans to control the debate again. Obama might be able to do that and believe in things, too.

Hell, if the Dems in Congress don't start impeachment soon, they're gonna lose in November anyway, but that's another topic.

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» RE: Flawed Calculus Posted by: maestra
Wonder if . . .
Posted by: covalentbonded on Jan 10, 2008 7:35 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Clinton isn't the choice of the criminals running this country and trying to cover their butts on the way out. Clinton has backed Bush every step of the way. And as I look closer I ponder this:

It took Nixon "to go to China", it took Bill Clinton to 'reform' welfare and maybe it'll take Clinton to impose the police/security state on America. She has and continues to back Bush on things like Patriot Act (I & II) and when I asked her campaign just which laws she claimed she would roll-back because Bush had gone too far I hear nothing.

And just paranthetically? A while back you wanted to know why people "hated" Clinton (another trademark of Bush/Rove machine) but you never responded to the deluge. If you did I must have missed it.

Strike/Boycott 08 cause Clinton ain't nuthin but Bush in a dress.

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» RE: Wonder if . . . Posted by: rinpochet
Florida 2000 exit polls were right and the official election result was wrong.
Posted by: leerhok on Jan 10, 2008 11:25 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Any proof or probability that New Hampshire Jan 2008 is not the same story?

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anyway
Posted by: kimpohl on Jan 10, 2008 11:31 AM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Um, it's 'Eat our cake and have it too.' And the difference is that we vote for candidates based on their platforms, promises, and promise and then they later deliver the goods. Those are the only candidates worth voting for. Who can deliver?

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Putinization and dismantling democracy
Posted by: leerhok on Jan 10, 2008 12:00 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
will not be reversed by any candidate (GOP or DEM) likely to win the nomination. The only progress will be in ecology: Any winner will have to join the rest of the world in trying hard and honestly to save life on earth from being extinct. So some change to the better will take place when Mad Cowboy moves out of the WH.

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Why are you gloating?
Posted by: Ellen Remore on Jan 10, 2008 12:36 PM   
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I harbor no personal animosity for First Lady / Senator Clinton. I also agree that the media's coronation of Obama was ridiculously premature.

It's just that I have a few problems with Hillary's bona fides as Pretender to the Throne:

1. She has no solid agenda for seeking health care reform (nor much of anything else.) Or if she does, she has not seen fit to inform the electorate. In fact, all I hear when she pontificates on any given subject is vague, if well-delivered, refrigerator-magnet rhetoric.

2. She intends to continue the occupation of Iraq. Oh, under different terminology, to be sure. This revelation, however, only leads me to conclude that she has cast her lot with the aficionados of American military imperialism, which has reached its apex with Bush & Co. Sorry, but imperialism, much like the doctrine of pre-emptive war that enables it, just has a way of getting under my skin.

3. She has accepted megabucks from the corporate oligarchy to finance her campaign. Ergo, should she win, her political soul can be claimed by who-knows-which Mephistophelean megaconglomerates. This electoral barter system, as John Edwards astutely points out, is a major reason why America now functions merely as a Potemkin republic.

4. She never stops informing the public of her "35 years experience." I would truly like to know precisely where, why, and how she's acquired what she obviously considers presidential-caliber leadership abilities for the past 35 years??? I mean--hell, I've racked up more than 35 years' worth of doing what I do. I doubt that, as a result, the Democrats will be nominating me.

Oh, but we've been assured for so long now by most of the MSM of Hillary's incipient presidency. So although she never actually delineates any specific strategy for her putative version of "Change," I guess we just have to stop being so damn picky, and remain in awe of her dynamite resume--even if, curiously enough, she's persisted in voting for George Bush's every last whim.

I should so hate to be considered a cynic.

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A whole nuther planet
Posted by: DaBear on Jan 10, 2008 1:35 PM   
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Before I clicked on the article I bet fifty bucks that it'd be a typical Earl my-navel-is-the-world piece. After reading it, the guy I bet counted out five tens for me. Damn, the strike is going on a long time.

I love to commentor who mentioned this was a typical Hutchinson orgasm or something like it. Earl just confirmed my long substantiated belief that he just lives on a whole nuther planet from the rest of humanity. He really just doesn't get it. Someone at Alternet should explain why his articles get repubbed here. It makes zero sense.

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EARL OFARI HUTCHINSON...
Posted by: niliadis on Jan 10, 2008 8:47 PM   
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Bravo!!! Bravo!!! Bravo!!!
All those that are the Clinton haters..Stay in this economy and vote for Mr. Empty suite
Barrack H. Obama... Empty words with great words like hope..You need experience to bring hope to a reality..
By the way... The Clinton years were full of prosperity!! how fast you forget, when you are so full of Ignorant hate!

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