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Cheering for Ron Paul

By Robert Scheer, Truthdig. Posted November 21, 2007.


How damning is that it takes a libertarian Republican to remind the leading Democratic candidates of the costs of the Iraq war?
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What can you get for a trillion bucks? Or make that $1.6 trillion, if you take the cost of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars as tallied by the majority staff of Congress' Joint Economic Committee (JEC). Or is it the $3.5-trillion figure cited by Ron Paul, whose concern about the true cost of this war for ordinary Americans shames the leading Democrats, who prattle on about needed domestic programs that will never find funding because of future war-related government debt?

Given that the overall defense budget is now double what it was when President Bush's father presided over the end of the Cold War -- even though we don't have a militarily sophisticated enemy in sight -- you have to wonder how this president has managed to exceed Cold War spending levels. What has he gotten for the trillions wasted? Nothing, when it comes to capturing Osama bin Laden, bringing democracy to Iraq or preventing oil prices from tripling and enriching the ayatollahs of Iran while messing up the American economy.

That money could have paid for a lot of things we could have used here at home. As Rep. Paul points out, for what the Iraq war costs, we could present each family of four a check for $46,000 -- which exceeds the $43,000 median household income in his Texas district. He asks: "What about the impact of those costs on education, the very thing that so often helps to increase earnings? Forty-six thousand dollars would cover 90 percent of the tuition costs to attend a four-year public university in Texas for both children in that family of four. But, instead of sending kids to college, too often we're sending them to Iraq, where the best news in a long time is they [the insurgents] aren't killing our men and women as fast as they were last month."

How damning that it takes a libertarian Republican to remind the leading Democratic candidates of the opportunity costs of a war that most Democrats in Congress voted for. But they don't need to take Paul's word for it; last week, the majority staff of the Joint Economic Committee in Congress came up with similarly startling estimates of the long-term costs of this war.

The White House has quibbled over the methods employed by the JEC to calculate the real costs of our two foreign wars, because the Democrats in the majority dared to include in their calculations the long-term care of wounded soldiers and the interest to be paid on the debt financing the war. Of course, you need to account for the additional debt run up by an administration that, instead of raising taxes to pay for the war, cut them by relying on the Chinese Communists and other foreigners who hold so much of our debt. As concluded by the JEC report, compiled by the committee's professional staff, "almost 10 percent of total federal government interest payments in 2008 will consist of payments on the Iraq debt accumulated so far."

However, even if you take the hard figure of the $804 billion the administration demanded for the past five years, and ignore all the long-run costs like debt service, we're still not talking chump change here. For example, Bush has asked for an additional $196 billion in supplementary aid for his wars, which is $60 billion more than the total spent by the U.S. government last year on all of America's infrastructure repairs, the National Institutes of Health, college tuition assistance and the SCHIP program to provide health insurance to kids who don't have any.

On this matter of covering the uninsured, it should be pointed out to those who say we (alone among industrialized nations) can't afford it that we could have covered all 47 million uninsured Americans over the past six years for what the Iraq war cost us. How come that choice -- war in Iraq or full medical coverage for all Americans -- was never presented to the American people by the Democrats and Republicans who voted for this war and continue to finance it?

Those now celebrating the supposed success of the surge might note that, as the JEC report points out, "[m]aintaining post-surge troop levels in Iraq over the next ten years would result in costs of $4.5 trillion." Until the leading Democratic candidate faces up to the irreparable harm that will be done to needed social programs over the next decades by the red-ink spending she supported, I will be cheering for the libertarian Republican. At least he won't throw more money down some foreign rat hole.

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Robert Scheer is the co-author of The Five Biggest Lies Bush Told Us About Iraq. See more of Robert Scheer at TruthDig.

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All the same!
Posted by: rocketman on Nov 21, 2007 5:43 PM   
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One thing that continues to surprise many is that there isn't any difference between Democrats and republicans. They both get their money from special interest groups, they both need to get elected and they are not looking to stand out from the group for fear of jeopardizing the election chances.

Ron Paul has broken away from the pack on this issue, one that the democrats promised they would solve if elected... too bad it takes mega money to get stand a chance of getting elected - so we can expect nothing more than the status quo

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A Crisis of Leadership..
Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on Nov 21, 2007 9:31 PM   
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The mainstream Democratic Candidates are not expounding on many if any of the most important issues..!

All we get is this torrent of generalities they got no fight in them and do not state facts or figures..

They are not talking about the real figures and costs of the war in Iraq nor do they talk about what really happened at Tora Bora or ask why Bush allowed bin-Laden to escape along with thousands of or al-Qaeda and Taliban some flown out by Pakistan others driving away in a thousand car caravan..

They are not talking about these Presidential Directives NSPD-51 or HSPD-20 or Executive order 14348 or the significance of the Warner Defense Act..

None of them have dared mention the Bilderberg Group or the threat from the Federalist Society..


I don't trust any of them the top three and most of the others...


I don't see any real change coming from any of them except for Kucinich..


We have a real crisis of leadership in this country a tragic crisis of leadership...leadership guts and truth..

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cjtiger
Posted by: cj on Nov 22, 2007 5:01 PM   
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This is an opportunity to see if the stranglehold on this government can be broken.

Here's an outline of a deal I'd suggest:

Progressives go to Paul campaign with recommendations for over $100 billion in cuts from non-military budget. (World Bank, IMF, NASA, big chunks of the CIA, War on Drugs, etc...)

In exchange for support, limit agenda to consensus issues. It seems to me it's going to take a huge national effort to overthrow the military-industrial complex and get our lives back. Plus financial sanity and restoration of civil liberties. End War on Drugs and restore civil liberties.And get out of the WTO!! Isn't that sufficient? We can argue about all kinds of other issues later.

Ask for support of anti-war Progressives in Congressional races. (Goal: Dennis Kucinich as Speaker of the House)

Maybe it's a fantasy at this point, but Ron Paul has prioritized his goals. We ought to at least see if there's a way to work together.

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» Yes, we need to work together Posted by: CUnknown
» RE: Yes, we need to work together Posted by: outsideagitator
Stormfront has a Ron Paul Campaign 2008 Webpage. He IS unabashedly the Nazi candidate for President
Posted by: yellow on Nov 23, 2007 1:50 PM   
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There is a huge Ron Paul in '08 campaign webpage and blog on the Neo-Nazi Stormfront website. I do believe it speaks volumes about the Man and his beliefs. He is not, and I repeat not, a true libertarian. True libertarians don't deport people without due process, oppose abortion or accept support from avowed Nazis. He is a bitter, bigoted, angry, frustrated white man's candidate and he is dangerous and a fraud.

Look at what some Stormfront supporters have to say, "Do white partriotic Americans have a candidate they can vote for without fear of being sold out again?...The Bush Family supports open borders and sees nothing wrong with filling America up with Mexicans."

or try this, "Ron Paul would collapse the Jewish infrastructure in this country"

These remarks show that many of the "anti-Zionist" and other racist remarks often seen on the Alternet come straight from unabashed White Supremacists often overlooked by the Alternet staff. Here is another example, "We are on the edge of the knife people--we're either going to buy ourselves a time-out to make ourselves a few babies and get our shit together with Ron--or we're going to go with the status quo and have 40 million Mexicans to consider next round."

Ron Paul is profiting from nothing but racism, anti-semitism, hate in general and the paranoia he fosters with his wingnut policies.

One Stormfronter says this, "...[White Nationalists] should support him because the better he does the more exposure he can bring to issues that are important to us."

This man is hatred's candidate without saying so and he is dangerous. No I don't believe intelligent people should support him. If he was a truely decent human being he wouldn't have so much Nazi support. There is something in what he stands for that attracts them. It's called paranoia and racism.

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» RE: Stormfront...RON PAUL Posted by: crying indian
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» You are a cracker gustafus. Posted by: yellow
RON PAUL has nothing to do with neo-nazis
Posted by: crying indian on Nov 24, 2007 4:24 PM   
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I can't believe the people who are so against Ron Paul because some worthless hate site backs him. The site you mention in your OP doesn't deserve the attention you give them by mentioning their name in your title...

As I stated in my reply to "yellow," let's look into how many babies Ron Paul delivered into this great country who were not of WASP ethnicity before we let the hate people skew our reasoning. I admit racism is a topic people get emotional about, and I understand why.

But I think that the people who vote solely on social issues help the destruction of America, aiding the corporate owned government, because all a candidate has to do to get votes is say they lean a certain way on a particular social issue, and the people that agree with that statement automatically cast their votes in their direction, regardless of what that particular candidate's stances on the REAL, IMPORTANT issues are.

If we let our emotions affect our reasoning, like, for example, lashing out agianst Ron Paul just because a hate site says their "organization" supports him, we lose site of the big picture. I would concur if Ron Paul actually condoned hatred against certain individuals based on their ethnicity, that he should be avoided, but HE HASN'T. I think you are so off-base to equate a hate site's support with Ron Paul's values. Ellie1 (I think) said something to the effect of "...the REAL America (whatever that is)." Do you not understand that America as it should be is based on individual unalienable rights, and equality for ALL peoples. Black/white; Neo-Nazi/Hippie; Meat-Eaters/Vegetarians, should not matter in how the government runs things FOR US ALL. America means being FREE to voice our opinions. I think some would rather be oppressed under an all-powerful government, as long as their views on social issues are supported by that government's policies.

Please stop giving the neo-nazis (whatever they are) attention.

If WE THE PEOPLE continue to allow government to do what it has been doing, none of the people that are so adamant about certain things won't have any power to do anything they believe in.

And vote for RON PAUL so he can restore whatever America used to be.

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Easily placated, I see.
Posted by: lamar on Nov 24, 2007 5:33 PM   
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It didn't take long for people to get distracted from something that matters (the damage the Iraq war is doing to our country) to something that is just stupid (some scumbag website).

Are we all so easily placated by social issues that the president can do nothing about?

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Ron Paul is...
Posted by: lavready on Nov 26, 2007 7:59 AM   
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opposed to stem cell research, gay rights, and abortion. I can't live with that. Don't be fooled when he tries to get off the hook on those issues by saying that those particular issues should be left to each individual state to deal with. Thats the same thing whites said back in the 1800's about equality for all (slavery). I like Mike Gravel... on the issues, he stands very close to Ron Paul on the economy, and war.

www.gravel08.us



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