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What's Going on with High School Dropouts?

By Sean Gonsalves, AlterNet. Posted November 6, 2007.


No Child Left Behind imposes serious consequences on schools for low test scores, but regarding dropout rates -- where students are literally left behind -- it barely does anything.
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The education industry has been abuzz with talk of "dropout factories" in the wake of a recent Johns Hopkins University study that says 12 percent of the nation's high schools have less than 60 percent of its students who start as freshmen and make it to their senior year.

The findings are not too surprising -- students were dropping out at about the same rate a decade ago. But, the attention being given so-called "dropout factories" is important because it underscores a glaring hole in No Child Left Behind law, just as Congress and the White House are wrangling over whether to reauthorize the five-year-old legislation.

"The current law imposes serious consequences on schools that report low scores on math and reading tests, such as having to replace teachers or principals, but it lacks the same kind of teeth when it comes to graduation rates," the AP reports.

The social costs of students not completing high school are steep. Bill Gates Sr., co-chair of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation told the United Way of Greater Los Angeles last week, "each year's cohort of dropouts costs us $325 billion in lost wages, taxes, and productivity over their lifetimes. Dropouts are eight times more likely to be in jail or prison than high school graduates. Only a quarter of dropouts vote. The figure for high school graduates is half, and it's three quarters for college graduates."

Counting the cost, Gates is convinced "that solving the high school crisis" is America's "most pressing moral obligation and our most urgent domestic policy priority."

Even as a high school drop-out myself, it's hard to disagree with that, though, as a footnote, a longitudinal study published in the Education Statistics Quarterly indicates "63 percent (of students) who drop out of high school at least once go on to earn a high school diploma or alternative credential within several years, and 43 percent enroll in a postsecondary institution."

Why "dropout?" The fine folks at Gates family foundation actually bothered to survey students about why they chose to leave high school. Nearly half (47 percent) said they left because "classes were not interesting."

Nearly seven in ten -- 69 percent -- said they were "not motivated" or "inspired to work hard," even though two-thirds said they would've worked harder if more was demanded of them.

Many students gave personal reasons for leaving school with 32 percent citing a need for a job or a way to make money; 26 percent said they had kids to support; and another 22 percent said they dropped out to care for a family member.

And check this out: 35 percent said "failing in school" was a major factor for dropping out and 45 percent said they started high school "poorly prepared by their earlier schooling."

The survey ends with a sober observation: "As complex as these individual circumstances may be, for almost all young people, dropping out of high school is not a sudden act, but a gradual process of disengagement; attendance patterns are a clear early sign."

Speaking at a "Dropout Forum" sponsored by the Alliance for Education, Gates Foundation education director Steven Seleznow shared an important insight from the survey. Seleznow said that while making students repeat a grade "makes everybody feel like we've got really tough standards, by and large it destroys the spirit of a student; destroys their inspiration, motivation. And in many cases, if you look at these dropouts, repeating a grade was a big indicator in their decision-making later in high school."

Again, on a purely pragmatic policy level, one of several problems with NCLB is that it punishes schools for low test scores but doesn't effectively address graduation rates. Can't you see the "unintended consequences" coming? As the pressure to avoid being punished for low test scores increases, so too does the pressure to discourage underperforming students to drop out of school.

Testing? All the research I've seen has confirmed what my children have taught me: self-motivated learning is the key to unlocking academic achievement; not coming up with more sophisticated ways of doling out carrots and sticks.

The question isn't: how do we raise test scores? Question is: how do we create schools, not factories, that encourage and enhance students' natural will to learn -- starting long before high school, even before pre-school begins?

Pop quiz: What's more biologically basic than sexual desire? The will to learn. And what's the Latin root for "education?" Educare, which means "to lead out from within."

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tight, well-written
Posted by: KaptainSpiffy on Nov 6, 2007 12:53 PM   
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as always.

no child left behind sure is working. dumbing down the population for easier control. what a country.

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CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVE NOW!
Posted by: higginslads on Nov 6, 2007 12:52 PM   
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A sitting member of Congress is introducing a measure to impeach the vice president of the United States and the story isn't visible on Alternet. This should be the leading story on a website that bills itself as an "alternative" to the mainstream. Some alternative! More like left gatekeeper.

For those who are interested in doing something constructive about our current state of affairs, please call your representative and urge them to support Mr. Kucinich's bill. The Capitol switchboard is:

1-800-828-0498
1-800-862-5530
1-800-833-6354

Just ask the operator for your representative's office. If you don't know it, tell her/him where you live and she/he will look it up. Once transferred to your representative's office, politely tell the person who answers the phone that you urge your representative to support Kucinich's articles of impeachment against the vice president. You will probably be asked for your name and address.

I just did this. It's the first time I had ever called my representative (Rodney Frelinghuysen in NJ). It was easy and I felt better after doing it.

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Complicated issue
Posted by: susanh on Nov 6, 2007 10:19 PM   
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SG said,
"The question isn't: how do we raise test scores? Question is: how do we create schools, not factories, that encourage and enhance students' natural will to learn -- starting long before high school, even before pre-school begins?"

Yes, that's what we need to do, but don't blame the test. We needed to improve the schools long before NCLB. NCLB just made the schools disaggregate the data that they were already required to gather and made them release it to the public, thus revealing how inadequately many schools were serving American students, particularly the poor, the students of color, and learning disabled students.

Results on the test will most likely be correlated with the quality of the school and its ability to do what you so value, "encourage and enhance students' natural will to learn." In any case, if a school CAN'T show reasonable results on their test scores, what are the chances that the kids are motivated and encouraged to learn? If students of color and/or poor students can't learn and demonstrate reading and math skills, what are the chances that they are being encouraged and motivated?

One of my sons is getting a very good, even excellent education. He has engaged teachers who challenge him and interest him, and from whom he is learning a sophisticated level of critical thinking as well as content knowledge and math, science, and writing skills. Because of this, and a very decent education in the lower grades for someone without special needs, he can score proficient and advanced on the tests.

My other son, who is very bright, has a learning disability. He has attended schools (actually, the same schools as his brother) that have not been able or willing to organize an effective program for him, though effective methodologies exist for his common learning disability. He is not as able to score proficient on the test. This shows up in the disaggregated data. This is important, and is the one of the only reasons why his school is now at least trying to improve the educational situation for him.

Yes, we want positive, encouraging, motivating schools. And the kids should be benefitting from these effective schools to the degree where they can easily demonstrate proficiency on tests of state standards.

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a test is just a test
Posted by: susanh on Nov 6, 2007 10:46 PM   
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SG says,
"Testing? All the research I've seen has confirmed what my children have taught me: self-motivated learning is the key to unlocking academic achievement; not coming up with more sophisticated ways of doling out carrots and sticks."

Yes, the point about the connection between self-motivation and learning is key, but why do you counterpose this with testing? How do you know that academic achievement has been unlocked without some measurement? Do you just take the teacher's word for it? "Everything is fine." Poor parents and parents of color have been disappointed by this one for generations (note: before NCLB.)

The carrot and stick thing may be a neat little analogy, but it's not the most appropriately applied to the learning process under NCLB. Maybe on the policy level, but what does NCLB dictate about carrots and sticks in the classroom, as pedagogy? Nothing, and I've read the legislation. It's up to the states and the schools to figure out how to improve. This is the problem in many locales where nobody in charge is able or willing to do what it takes to create a positive, motivating educational environment where children have access to effective teaching that results in demonstrable skills.

NCLB is not perfect and needs much improvement, but the measurement for accountability is essential. Making schools accountable for decreasing the drop-out rate is essential, too, so that schools can't game the system by forcing kids out.

One more thing: self-motivation and effective teaching that leads to academic achievement leads to feelings of confidence and mastery. Most kids like to demonstrate mastery. This is a component of REAL self-esteem, not the fake kind that someone gives you by praising you. Don't knock it. We need to provide the environment where this will happen for more children.

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School problem list
Posted by: spencerh on Nov 7, 2007 3:50 AM   
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This applies to public and private schools, both of which I've attended. This is an NYC-based, personal, anecdotal perspective, and doesn't feature any sort of statistical rigor.

* Co-student apathy, class disruptiveness, and disinterest. Seeing other students cheat, fall asleep, space out, not participate, and fail horribly can be a motivation killer.

* A predilection toward violence by many students/the constant threat of getting "jumped" (less of an issue at private, but not completely eliminated)

* Overcrowded classrooms

* Teaching to the lowest common denominator. No attempt at tailoring education to individuals or logical groups.

* At times, more time spent on attempting to restore order than teaching

* A habit of blaming "everyone involved" (i.e., anyone in the vicinity) instead of attempting to investigate and prosecute the perpetrators of activities that were against regulations. A very "short-cutty" attitude towards determining any sort of blame. Nothing resembling due process and no requirements for sound evidence. "10 guilty men go free" had no meaning.

* Little to no coverage of the source theories or practical future applications of subjects. Much focus on facts, figures, and formulas without any attempt at relating it to the real world, past, present, or future. "Real world" examples tended to be laughably contrived. Attempting to glean information about sources/reasoning for the thing's existence often met with angry stares ("you're causing us to veer off the subject and confusing people!") or simply stopped cold ("it doesn't matter, just learn it").

* Poor facilities and equipment (not an issue at private)

* Alternately attempting to paint the currently taught education as a personal enrichment experience ("it's for your own good") or a necessity for future survival ("learn this or you'll sleep in the street"). Neither perspective was accompanied by anything resembling *why* or *how* it was beneficial.

* A jarring, cacophonous, impersonal, zoo-like atmosphere. Getting up early, waiting outside in the cold/heat, being stuffed into classrooms/buses/lunchrooms with people who had horrible hygiene; disgusting habits; were loud and obnoxious; were dramatic, crying, whining, moping children; were four feet tall and no life experience, yet filled with endless arrogance and bravado. Blaring bells going off when you're still half asleep. If you were precocious/mature, you tended to feel very uncomfortable and out of place. Arguments about this being like the "real world" are complete and utter nonsense; if I don't like a place of work or other institution, I go somewhere else that I like better.

* Absolutely horrible food.

* Far too much focus on testing rather than the ability to understand and apply knowledge (which goes right along with not attempting to teach how said knowledge could be usefully applied).

* Lack of depth. I've learned (and continue to learn) more about subjects researching them on my own than I ever learned about them in school. Perhaps that's a given considering how much time we can personally spend on subjects outside of school, it still seems like schools could do a lot better job of it.

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the real questions
Posted by: whoopingcrone on Nov 7, 2007 3:56 AM   
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how do we create adults that want all people, including themselves, to learn?
that don't confuse schooling with educating?
that don't despise children?
that don't require an underclass to maintain themselves?

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Not a believer in conspiracies. However...
Posted by: socrates2 on Nov 7, 2007 6:26 AM   
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Schools should, yes SHOULD, teach our children to LOVE to learn. Otherwise, they have failed miserably in their mission.
By the way, progressive teaching methodology that taught critical thinking skills aided a substantial segment of an entire generation.
This generation realized that true learning begins with stimulating one's curiosity and that, in turn, leads to questioning.
When this generation began questioning the wisdom of its elders and its war-mongering, profit-seeking elites, those elites declared class war on this generation and their sons and daughters and grandchildren.
How? By defunding those educational institutions, those curiosity-stimulating centers till they degenerated into dreary memorization and quiz factories.
Ever hear of a bizarre law from California called Proposition 13, elsewhere called "the first salvo in the class war against the poor"?
Schools (and a lot of our public institutions, other than our police, and military) decayed into no more than Dickensian centers of the mind and warehouses for underpaid and overworked teachers and students--rather than the mind stimulating centers they once were.
Creative, inspirational teachers left in droves and potential teachers looked elsewhere for stimulating and appreciated careers.
A lot of folks intuited the obvious and opted for home schooling and/or private schools. Guess which economic segment of society has been marginalized into those "left behind" marginally funded schools?
This is no accident. At best, all this has been an unintended consequence of underfunding our learning centers; at worst it is a diabolically-conceived idea to starve the brains of our developing, future citizens...
That's my theory for the mass mental decay brilliantly commented on by Postman.
I sure as hell hope I am wrong and we are merely witnessing the results of growing numbers of individuals choosing not to explore the wonders of the mind for the short-term. Because that choice can always be reversed. Insidious social policies may be harder to grasp and, once grasped, difficult to alter.

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Dummies and the ignorant are easier to control...for now
Posted by: socrates2 on Nov 7, 2007 7:07 AM   
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And as Kaptain Spiffy noted above, a dumbed down population is easier to control.
Two comments. No one is actually "dumbed down."
After hours and hours and days and days and years and years in the presence of control-freaks (some people have no business being placed in situations where they can lord it over sensitive, susceptible minds in the process of formation), the mind adapts by tuning out and in the process, an individual's esteem tends to lower due to several factors--for one, being "graded" as "under-performing and stupid, slow, etc."
One alternative is to drop out. Another is to seek self-development and higher self-esteem elsewhere. Still another is to escape the situation through escapist activities from sports to drugs to booze (again, to assist one's self-esteem, the brain's hard-wired need for self-validation). Still another (and thankfully evolution has hard-wired 99% of the population with a naturally revulsion against killing our own specie) are Columbine-type acts of violence...
However, as the number of dissatisfied, controlled individuals grows, with age and change, they may grow into desperate harsh and angry adults. Then it will be hell to pay.
The 1930's, post-Treaty of Versailles streets of Germany come to mind... And a demagogue will set them "free."
Perhaps TV and its incessant novelties such as Paris Hilton and Lindsey and Baffleck can keep the anger at bay, perhaps not...

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Education castrates curiosity
Posted by: peacelf on Nov 7, 2007 7:38 AM   
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The "education industry" is the perfect term for what is happening to schooling, what has happened to public education since it tried to reform in the seventies.

In the seventies, we saw a liberalization of public education, with more course choices for students based on the student's interests. The new conservative movement under Reagan put a stop to that beginning with a 1983 report called "A Nation at Risk."

The report cited the dismal performance of U.S. students in math and science compared to other industrialized nations, especially Japan. It stated that the U.S. was falling behind in competing with Japan in producing products like cars and electronics. (Since then, the report has been proven invalid. It's data is based on misinformation, since Japan's test scores are based on testing of the "cream of the crop" students while the U.S. tests everyone.)

The purpose of the report was to shift the attention given to the individual in education to education for economics. In other words, the purpose of schooling was to produce "good workers." Since "A Nation..." we have seen that shift become policy in the laws known as No Child Left Behind (NCLB).

NCLB is a program to turn public education into a testocracy, a systematic control of teachers, curriculum and student learning outcomes that will best benefit the economy, or more specifially, the corporations who need workers that are docile, domesticated and subject to authority. In other words, intelligence only serves the corporations need to increase profits and dominate world markets. The ability to think critically is only important when and if it serves the corporation.

Traditional education has never really served the individual or the nation by creating, say, an enlightened or critical citizenry. Indeed, education "castrates curiosity," to ensure that a docile, domesticated, uncritical citizen emerges after 12 years of indoctrination.

Education has always been used as a way to subdue the masses, but NCLB ensures that the child is kept ignorant and the teacher has no control over the curriculum or outcomes. In other words, it's an educational dictatorship to keep power and wealth in the hands of the few.

peace

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Home schooling is your best bet
Posted by: jbur816 on Nov 7, 2007 11:55 AM   
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in today's America. I don't have kids but have hosted foreign exchange students, which was quite an eye-opening experience regarding our current educational system compared with those in Europe. I am now convinced that our public schools are centers not for learning, but rather for obedience training and indoctrination into fascism. I have friends who home school their kids and friends whose children attend public school. The differences not only in educational level but also in behavior are stark. The home schooled kids are bright, interested and curious. They are also extremely well mannered and able to communicate with people of any age. The kids from the public schools seem always to be tired and uninterested in much outside of material things such as video games and brand name clothing. While they are not openly rude to me, they are also not polite. They seem self-absorbed and unable or unused to speaking with adults. If/when I have children, I will never allow them to go to public schools if we are still living in this country... and my husband and I are products of public schools ourselves.

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NCLB is working just fine, as intended
Posted by: soulrebeljc on Nov 7, 2007 1:12 PM   
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Of course NCLB doesn't address dropouts. The whole point of NCLB is to get some kids to dropout (minorities, low socioeconomic, learning disability). What happens to these dropouts? They join the military often. What better way to boost military ranks than to provide no other option?

The specious politicians can then say that "the surge is working". Seriously, I have been a high school teacher for 9 years now. The kids who are targeted for extra help are the borderline kids - the ones who have some chance of passing state assessment. Those whose skills are way below, they get forgotten, not "targeted" for help, because they are useless to a school which simply wants to make AYP (Adequate Yearly Progress) so that it doesn't get "taken over" by some outside company. I'm in a school right now that is on course for such corrective action. NCLB doesn't take into account the fact that we have a huge immigrant population (legal or not it makes no difference, there are language assimilation problems that make passing standardized assessments extremely difficult), and many other diversity issues that do not conform to the white male paradigm of public education. Yet schools are being forced with the choices of 1) keep federal funding or 2) cut some kids loose.

Most educators hate NCLB because it does exactly the opposite of its claim. It leaves a whole bunch of kids behind. This is standard Republican double-speak. But the goal was never to have an intelligent, critical-thinking oriented population - such is anaethema to a military/violent/totalitarian state, which we are increasingly becoming.

Jason Call
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Candidate, US Congress, New Mexico CD 1

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This one got my attention.
Posted by: Sojourner on Nov 7, 2007 1:20 PM   
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Nearly seven in ten -- 69 percent -- said they were "not motivated" or "inspired to work hard," even though two-thirds said they would've worked harder if more was demanded of them.

My fantasy is that one negative influence on educational aspiration is that we have lived for the last 40 years in a political world that has looked backward. From Nixon on, it's been "Turn back the clock." Add to that the real threat to our future from playing russian routlette with thermo-nuclear weapons and with a healthy planet, and "Get Rich or Die" begins to make some sense.

Bill Moyers recently discussed a new book called "The Missing Class." It's about the working poor who, together with those actually below the poverty line, add up to nearly one million Americans. For some, I expect that's motivation to get their rear in gear. For the unmotivated it's evidence that advancement is hopeless.

Political leadership that cannot motivate people but can only spend money--especially on arms and the war--deserves to be run out of town on a rail. It's been too long since "We're all in this together." The wealthy don't want things to change. Why should they if they have it all? The top one percent own one quarter of American wealth?

Something stinks in the US. I call it the GOP.

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WE SHOULD BE LLOKING AT THE PARENTS
Posted by: vertical on Nov 7, 2007 5:35 PM   
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We always blame the schools, but if a child has no guidance at home there is not a whole lot the school can do. I'll bet that a majority of drop-outs have bad parents.

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NCLB is a bad political joke
Posted by: stevor on Nov 7, 2007 9:12 PM   
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No Child Left Behind is just something that politicians created to look good since they can't actually do any real good with education. First of all, many high school kids would gladly be left behind and just cause trouble when they're required to go to school.
Yeah, it's too bad that they feel that way, but in listening to them tell of their family lives, it's because of those family (dysfunctional family) lives that education is not valued by them, as it wasn't valued by their parents.
Could education be made more valuable? Yeah, if they brought back trade skills, but the excuse was that insurance was too high for shop classes so they were removed. Also, ALL California kids must pass algebra & geometry. It's not that they couldn't pass the class if they wanted to, because it's not that hard and some special education kids manage to pass when they want to, but too many kids are just too lazy.

So, are a lot of kids dropping out? Yeah, these kids are mostly too lazy, get too far behind in their credits, and they decide to not catch up when it will take until they're 20 years old to graduate.

Don't blame the school system, blame their parents!

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dtaylor
Posted by: dianectaylor on Nov 7, 2007 9:24 PM   
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No Child Left Behind is a pathetic waste of our human resources, to say nothing of our tax dollars. I suppose the personal positive is that I and my colleagues who work in literacy programs will never be unemployed.

If Bush and Co. really wanted to improve education, they would encourage smaller school and class size, so that each student would get more attention. No person should graduate from high school without being able to read. "Educators" who force students who don't "achieve" out instead of motivating and engaging them to learn should be ashamed of themselves.

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NCLB=No Teacher Left Untormented
Posted by: WWMD on Nov 8, 2007 11:32 AM   
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Bottom line: parents, not schools, are responsible for educating and raising children. Schools provide a tax-payer subsidized service for those parents who do not or cannot educate their children at home or in a private school. Laws that pretend otherwise are wrong.

Parents, not schools, are accountable for the educational achievement of children. Schools are accountable for the quality of their implementation of state-mandated curricula and compliance with standards for teacher certification and instructional materials. Schools are not accountable, morally, for the rate at which students pass certain tests. That's up to the student and her parents.

And last, if a state is going to allow a person of a certain minimum age to quit school before he/she graduates , it's not the fault or the liability of a high school if a student chooses to exercise his statutory option to quit in lieu of graduating. It's up to the parents to motivate their older children to finish!

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Perspectives
Posted by: talkville on Nov 9, 2007 3:04 AM   
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From the perspective of its initiators and formulators, it is having eminent success!! It's all about the interpretation of those two great dictionary words "left" and "behind" and the various associations that can be made when the two are combined into one coherent, zealous, exclusive and thoroughly cruel and anti-human Idea. The Program is achieving exactly and precisely the "outcomes" it was designed to produce: a plastic, malleable, conformist and quiescent mass of "clay" for the Great Artisans to shape as they like. Of this clay they will build Monuments to Heaven (otherwise known as "The Free Market")

This is the Information Age, the Age of Technology -- it's all about Programs and Programming and algorithms of Power (and remember, the Brain has become a synonym of the CPU in your p.c.). Human beings no longer have neural networks within a complex set of metabolic processes. Humans are now "Wired", and it's only a matter of plugging them all in to a REALLY central Processing Unit as software is to an Operating System.

And indeed no child will be left behind in THAT architecture!!!

From its inception, this folly was perpetrated upon the entire country to do away with the most dangerous and hated attribute of humans: THINKING. As far as the "experts" who pushed it through are concerned, it's a resounding success.

In a strange, ironic way, I place my hopes more on the "drop-outs" to find a way out of our new totalitarianism.

NCLB is injustice rationalized, standardized, formalized and normalized. An iron-clad excuse for the inexcusable. A cruel travesty upon the youth of the country. A homily to Know-Nothing-ism and to Ignorance. An actual disgrace to potentials. We are steadily moving away from rights and performing a "conversion" -- they are 'born again' as privileges.

Thoreau once wrote of 'freedom' while in prison; is this the freedom preached and to shed blood and ruin lives for? In its deepest recesses, NCLB is but a sophisticated form of child-abuse. Check it out with the rising numbers of drop-outs from our schools -- and the distributions from rich to poor are always curiously the same.

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