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When Science Attacks!

By Annalee Newitz, AlterNet. Posted October 23, 2007.


Two scandals in the sci-tech world serve as reminders that science can be done in bad faith.
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Two scandals rocked the sci-tech world last week. Not to put too fine a point on it, they reminded us that bad research and implementation can kill.

In South Africa, a widely used antiaircraft cannon called the Oerlikon GDF-005 suffered from what many observers believe was a computer malfunction, which killed nine soldiers and maimed 15 in a training exercise. Its computer-controlled sighting mechanism went haywire, and the gun automatically turned its barrel to face the trainees next to it, spraying bullets from magazines that it automatically reloaded until it was out of ammunition. Many compared the incident to science fiction fare like Robocop or Terminator, in which military bots turn on their masters.

In the United States, James Watson, who won the Nobel Prize for helping to discover the double-helix shape of DNA, was suspended from his administrative duties at Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory over comments he made to the London Times about how blacks are genetically hardwired with lower intelligence than that of other races. Watson has made comments like this about blacks (and women) throughout his career, but apparently this was the last straw. Reporter Charlotte Hunt-Grabbe, who says she has Watson's comments on tape, quoted him saying he's "inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa" because "all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours -- whereas all the testing says not really." He told Hunt-Grabbe his "hope is that everyone is equal" but that "people who have to deal with black employees find this not true."

Nobody compared Watson's racism to science fiction, though one could bring up Gattaca, Brave New World, or any other genetic dystopia where DNA warlords like Watson -- whose employer controls millions in research money -- have created a world where genes are destiny.

These two very different incidents demonstrate the fallibility of science and, more importantly, how the arrogance of scientists can be horrifically destructive. The tragedy in South Africa could have been avoided if the engineers who designed that cannon had simply refused to computerize its sight. With a big gun, computer error can be far worse than human error. Any decent engineer would have known that failure in computer systems is inevitable and come to the conclusion that weapons should not be programmed to function autonomously.

Watson's remarks are another form of scientific arrogance that leads to gross and fatal mistakes. After all, Watson is hardly the first person to use genetics as a way to create false hierarchies of human beings based on "evidence" that some races and sexes are "naturally" superior to others. The history of biology as a discipline is riddled with racism and sexism. Eighteenth-century scientist Carolus Linnaeus, who invented the taxonomy of species we still use today, originally divided the species Homo sapiens into four racial subclasses: Americanus, Asiaticus, Africanus, and Europeanus. While Europeanus was "inventive," Africanus was "negligent." Even in the 20th century many geneticists endorsed the eugenics movement as a way to keep the species strong by preventing "dysgenic," racially mixed babies from being born.

Today leaders in the field of evolutionary biology like Steven Pinker and E.O. Wilson routinely say that people are hardwired to behave in certain ways based on their genetic heritage, which is often linked to their racial background or sex. "Scientific" studies on the genetic inferiority of female intelligence are what motivated former Harvard president Lawrence Summers to claim that there are so few women in science because they just aren't smart enough.

So should a computerized gun run amok and a racist geneticist undermine our faith in science? Yes. People who build autonomous weapons systems know their work might kill people, but they do it anyway. And people like Watson derail brilliant research by bringing sex and race bias into the lab. Science is nothing more than the sum of what scientists do. Without ethics, science is no better than Christianity during the Crusades, a dogma that kills out of arrogance and prejudice.

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Annalee Newitz (annalee@techsploitation.com) is a surly media nerd who knows that Rosalind Franklin discovered the structure of DNA.

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Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Oct 23, 2007 10:44 AM   
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... those who build weapons of any kind KNOW that they will kill people. Its nice to believe they will be used for the cause of right... but the history of warfare tells us that is so rarely the case.

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Column lite
Posted by: Allison on Oct 23, 2007 11:14 AM   
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Gee, science is a human endeavour? Engineers sometimes create bad systems, and biochemists who should know better are sometimes prejudiced? *woop woop* Activate the Captain-Obvious-Signal! You can write better than this.

1) The AA gun should have had some kind of manual override, but apparently didn't. Or the trainees couldn't reach it. Or it was broken. Details are pretty scarce. Weapons are designed to kill people and this one worked f*cking great... almost.

2) Watson has always been a prick, everyone in science knows it. Plus he wrote a boring, self-aggrandizing book which everyone hates. He says ignorant crap all the time, but apparently merely being sexist and insensitive wasn't enough to get him fired. Thank god this was, maybe he'll stop embarrassing himself and us.

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Get your facts right
Posted by: oregoncharles on Oct 23, 2007 11:27 AM   
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Annalee, if you're going to write about science, you should take the trouble to get your facts right:

"former Harvard president Lawrence Summers to claim that there are so few women in science because they just aren't smart enough." That seriously misrepresents what Summers said. No, it's worse than that: either it's a lie, or you obviously have no idea. Summers was indiscreet and was fired for it, but he actually raised a real scientific issue which, if true, is worth discussing - and it doesn't imply that women are less intelligent.

Your honesty is at issue here: I suggest that you look up and publish his actual comments, and the scientific background to them.

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» Facts, or interpretation Posted by: richenza
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» Ahem.. long live Drew Faust. nm Posted by: JoshuaLudd
» Thing is... Posted by: JoshuaLudd
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Dr. Frankenstein in Jurassic Park Will Eat Your Ego!
Posted by: particle on Oct 23, 2007 11:31 AM   
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"scientific arrogance"

How about just "arrogance." There's a lot that could be said about where scientists and their processes go wrong. This article does little more than indirectly play on cliched fears about mad scientists.

"Without ethics, science is no better than Christianity during the Crusades, a dogma that kills out of arrogance and prejudice."

Oh bull. Without ethics, science is ethic-less. Dogma is something else. In the long run, dogma kills science.

What a load.

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Come on...
Posted by: dsh2va on Oct 23, 2007 11:38 AM   
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First of all, engineers who build a weapons system build it for the express purpose of killing people. That's what weapons do and that's the only real reason we build them.

Second, to say that the engineers who built the weapon should not have computerized the sight is grossly simplistic. Did you every consider that perhaps a computerized sight is much more accurate (or at least has the potential to be much more accurate) and therefore can greatly reduce collateral damage (to use that horrifying euphemism).

Third, why do you make the assumption that anything any scientist says is, by definition, science. James Watson, in this interview, is not expressing an opinion that is supported by modern genetic research. As such, I'd like to remind you that modern science, especially genetics and biochemistry have done more than anything to discredit antiquated notions of inherent differences between races.

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» RE: Come on... Posted by: PeaceLove
What's science got to do with it?
Posted by: zulu127 on Oct 23, 2007 12:40 PM   
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You have completely misrepresented the content of you article by invoking the notion of science. Engineers are NOT scientists. They take the discoveries of science and apply them sometimes with horrible results but more often with amazing ones.

As far as Watson goes...he is/was a scientist but he is also a human being and as such can harbour some of the less noble thoughts and ideas that all of us do.

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» RE: What's science got to do with it? Posted by: oregoncharles
Science is not the problem.
Posted by: KeepsonTickn on Oct 24, 2007 7:05 AM   
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The examples given do not show a problem with science. As several other comments have already pointed out, the first involves bad engineering. The second is of much more concern to me.

There is a growing trend by those on the right to attack science for giving answers not to their liking. Evolution for instance, appears to some to usurp the role of God in creation, so they attack it. I really hate to see science attacked from the left for the same reason. Mr. Watson's comments were politically insensitive. That does not cast doubt on the science of genetic inheritance.

Genetic inheritance, particularly that of intelligence, is linked to several social phenomena which profoundly affect our ability to succeed in a modern civilization. It is unfortunate that some attach race to this issue, but that does not destroy the validity of the science. What frightens me is that in turning our backs on the science, we refuse to consider strategies that would most help those in need.

The problem with the eugenics movement is not with the science behind the theory, but rather with some strategies employed as a result.

Here is a practical example of social engineering gone wrong. For several years, conservatives have had considerable success in limiting government sponsorship as well as charitable provision of family planning services. As a result, those in the lower economic strata, who cannot afford such services, have suffered more unwanted pregnancies than those in the middle and upper classes. So poor people have more children than those of moderate to high income. While there are a host of reasons for poverty, intelligence is a factor, and intelligence has a heritable genetic component.

In the example above, poverty as a trait is rewarded with greater fertility, leading to an increase in the ratio of poor to non-poor. I would argue for government provision of a full range of family planning services to anyone who desires them, but it should be noted that this progressive approach would have a "eugenic" effect, even as it reduces misery among the most vulnerable of us.

One can take literally the expression "All men are created equal," and that seems to be a bulwark of conservative thinking. If we are all truly equal, then failure in life is strictly the fault of the individual. This is a cruel hoax. It would be much better to determine how people really differ, and develop strategies to help those in need, and to develop socially acceptable policies to improve the ability of everyone to function within our society.

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Ignorance is not stupidity.
Posted by: monkeywrench on Oct 24, 2007 9:57 AM   
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The african population does not suffer from a lack of intelligence; it suffers from a lack of knowledge. The accumulating tragedies in Africa are yet more examples of the importance of free, available public education – including science; something that the Bush administration is trying to destroy right here at home.

(Oh, by the way: Anybody who knows of the code systems used in the Underground Railroad, some involving patterns on quilts, or the methods blacks utilized during slavery to convince arrogant whites that they were childlike to try to avoid even harsher treatment, could never accuse them of being intellectually inferior. To carry out that subterfuge successfully, for years on end without detection, takes considerable intelligence.)

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And I usd to admire this guy
Posted by: bobtr900 on Oct 24, 2007 10:20 AM   
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I sincerely doubt that he is correct in his racist and anti female statements. Watson is in a strange group of people, the now deposed president of Harvard, Samuel Alito(CAP and friends from Princeton, wow has his Wikipedia entry been sanitized, the corporate right wingers are at that task again), the Catholic Church's suppression of women into a second/ third class status,

How could/would Watson explain Lisa Randall, Lise Meitner, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Marie Curie, Garrett Morgan(gas mask) George Washington Carver, James A. Harris, Charles Drew, Rachel Carson, Melanie Klein, Margaret Mead, Bishop Desmond Tutu(I really love that guy and his wonderful contributions to the family of man/woman, the current and previous Popes could take and should take/ have taken lessons from Tutu, etc.etc.etc.

How far does Watson and ilk (Alito, the Aryan Brotherhood, neocons, neo confederates et.al.) extend this kind of thinking. Will he, next, extend his mindset to exactly what other groups.What about other non-whites or dark skinned peoples. What about the great thinkers from Persia and many other ME countries. What about that Indian mathematician who died in approx. 1934 of starvation because he couldn't tolerate English cooking, can't think of his name at the moment. He was from a farm family and learned math from a book of math tables.

Where and when does it all STOP.

It is of little wonder that the human race is still crawling forward and being dragged backward and cannot/has not begun to get up on it's feet and start moving forward. The damn conservatives are dragging us down/ killing us and all for corporate profits.

Is Watson someday going to include the great Pershian and other middle eastern mathematicians in his pernicious mindset. Watson is from the Univ. of Chicago, does that explain his mindset. Could he be a Republican, does that explain his mindset.

It's all, way far too disgusting.

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I assume you're just kidding, because the alternative isn't appealing
Posted by: sherifffruitfly on Oct 24, 2007 11:13 AM   
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Neither event had anything to do with science - and quite obviously so.

Event1 was a bug in a piece of software (or, even less relevantly, a hardware malfunction).

Event2 was the babblings of a bigot who happens to have been a scientist. Does a bigoted banker mean there's something "dangerous" about the banking field?

Sheesh. How inane.

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Does anyone know the basis for Watson's "theory"?
Posted by: ReallyBearish on Oct 24, 2007 2:14 PM   
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The idea that Africans are by their genes less intelligent is counter intuitive. Much of Africa is a rough place where selection for smarter or at least more clever people would take out many of the slower members of the group.

Africans have a wide genetic mix of various ethnic groups-- not just one based on skin color. I can see environments where different kinds of intelligence might prevail, but I can't see one that would select for stupidity. Being "school smart" isn't the only measure.

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» RE: Yes Posted by: oregoncharles
Evidence?
Posted by: elizaperson on Oct 24, 2007 3:40 PM   
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I'd be interested to see evidence that Watson's opinions have directly impacted the research done at Cold Spring Harbor Labs. There are checks and balances in place to make sure that personal politics and opinions have a minimal impact on funding decisions. No system is perfect and biases do exist, but, due to the history of eugenics, geneticists tend to be VERY sensitive to the sorts of comments Watson made. Here's a more balanced article about Watson's remarks:
linked text

I'd also be interested to see where E.O. Wilson has EVER indicated that he believes that behavior is wholly determined genetically. Pretty much everything I've read indicates that, like most modern ecologists, he believes that genetics is one of many factors influencing behavior. Researchers in different fields believe that it has a greater or lesser influence, but there is no doubt that the environment plays a key role in development of all characteristics, including behavior.

The title of this piece should be "When Science is Attacked!" Geez.

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sword vs. shield
Posted by: lamar on Oct 24, 2007 7:16 PM   
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A lot of people say that weapons are meant to kill people, and this weapon worked. I submit that they are confusing the sword with the shield. Metaphorically, of course. Athena vs. Ares. Cryptonomicon.

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You Said What?
Posted by: Urgelt on Oct 24, 2007 9:36 PM   
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"These two incidents demonstrate the fallibility of science," you wrote.

Oh, really?

A machine gun malfunctioning has nothing to do with science and everything to do with engineering. Science is the pursuit of truth about the natural world. Engineering makes things that go boom. Not the same thing at all. Ok?

Watson's comment is troubling, but does it show "the fallibility of science?"

No. Because science is not made up of declarations by its practitioners. To be considered science, it has to make it into a peer-reviewed journal.

Watson's chances of turning that off-hand and stupid remark into a peer-reviewed paper in a reputable science journal is nil. Peer-review would ax it in a heartbeat because it's poorly thought out and unsupported. And *that* should tell you is that your conclusion is completely, utterly, and totally erroneous.

Science *is* fallible, but you'd never know it from your article. You didn't make the case.

You went on to conclude that these two incidents demonstrate "how the arrogance of scientists can be horrifically destructive."

Incident 1: Engineers make weapons, not scientists. We've kind of already figured out that weapons can be destructive. Beats me how "arrogance" figures in, though. You saw a lot of fists-pounding-on-desks, did you, when you interviewed the engineers responsible? Make your case!

Incident 2: What, exactly, was destroyed by Watson's stupid faux-pas, again?

You wrote, "Even in the 20th century many geneticists endorsed the eugenics movement as a way to keep the species strong by preventing "dysgenic," racially mixed babies from being born."

Not in the second half of the 20th Century. That's the part of the century I lived through. Earlier than that, it makes little sense to call *anyone* a geneticist, not as we understand the term today. Nobody had ever heard of DNA.

Watson never even came within a country mile of advocating eugenics, however stupid his remark was.

You wrote, "So should a computerized gun run amok and a racist geneticist undermine our faith in science? Yes." What has faith to do with science, again?

Science is a method of discovering the truth about the natural world, remember? In place of faith, there's a dogged demand in science for replicable results. Keep your faith, science doesn't want it. When science wants to prove something about the natural world, it'll show you evidence.

You wrote, "Science is nothing more than the sum of what scientists do." Are you kidding? Science is the distillation of extremely specific things scientists do. It's certainly *not* the sum of everything they do.

You wrote, "Without ethics, science is no better than Christianity during the Crusades, a dogma that kills out of arrogance and prejudice."

Is there some mandatory liberal indoctrination program that I somehow missed?

Science has ethics. But those ethics are aimed at one thing, and one thing only: the earnest search for truth about the natural world. What engineers, politicians, police, terrorists, soldiers, or journalists do with what science discovers is, most pointedly, not science.

Aim at the right target. Science is not a boogyman. People who take what science learns and put it to nefarious purposes, *those* are your boogymen.

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um...
Posted by: DaBear on Oct 24, 2007 10:18 PM   
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6 billion of us. We are too manyon this earth, we are too interconnected, and we are too reliant on each other to tolerate the kind of bullshit we persistently accept as "the way things are done."

The details are well represented in the comments. Bottom line is, it's people who are fucked up not science. You wanna believe in body morphology as a science basis, fine, go back to the 20th century and leave us all alone, you're the problem not the solution. You wanna fuck around building more lethal guns, fine, go back to the 20th century and leave us all the fuck alone.

We are too many on this earth, we are too interconnected, and we are too reliant on each other to tolerate the kind of bullshit we persistently accept as "the way things are done." Adapt or get off the goddammed rock.

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Science vs Technology
Posted by: clarence on Oct 24, 2007 11:07 PM   
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Annalee, I don't think you understand the difference between sicience and technology. And I suspect that you, along with a majority of people including many "scientists", don't really get what the whole idea of "science" is all about.
All the "science" in that gun worked perfectly: the electrons flowed where they were predicted to flow, they caused certain circuits to trip, which apparently did as predicted, etc. The problem was in the engineering.
Science is about trying to find out what the hell is going on, and why and how things work. Many budding scientists quit when they find out their discoveries can be adapted to warfare. Their inquisitiveness and intellectual adventurousness makes them carpenters, reforesters, housebuilders, farmers or what have you that change the world or a small part of it.
Scientists are capable of drawing the wrong conclusions from their findings. The idea of science is that their findings are public, and their conclusions can be disputed, based on their findings. They often are. Somebody comes along, does some more experiments and comes to defferent conclusions. This is why fundamentalists of all stripes hate science. Science comes to very few conclusions. Science is all about asking questions. Fundamentalists want answers.
Thanks to Watson, we know that we're very similar to bananas, strong evidence for evolution.
I think Watson and Summers are mistaken in their conclusions, but I think it's a sign of societal evolution that they won't be burned at the stake for them.
I see nothing wrong in asking the questions: could tens of thousands of years of biological and cultural different roles have led to a difference in the AVERAGE geographies of male and female human brains?; could tens of thousands of years of differing environmental challenges have led to different kinds of AVERAGE abilities to perceive the environment and deal with it?
And of course, the most pressing question of all: Why are white male Capricorns born in Pittsburgh, Pa. in 1944 the wittiest, wisest and sexiest men alive today?

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I was there
Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Oct 24, 2007 11:15 PM   
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I was involved with the US Army's very first armed mobile robots. I was an
engineer on the Integrated Concepts Team for Robotics. While I was there, I was
able to convince the soldiers to keep a person in the loop so that the robot couldn't
fire without human permission. I retired. The soldiers keep changing jobs. The
new soldiers on the robot job don't have me there to argue for keeping a person in
the loop. Soldiers keep wanting robots to do human level things, like drive
without help and decide who to shoot without help. Robots aren't smart enough
yet. I doubt that I will ever trust a robot with lethal force. The first thing I did
after retiring was to visit congressional offices pleading for a law to keep a person
in the loop so that robot can't fire without human permission.

PLEASE WRITE TO YOUR CONGRESSPERSONS ASKING FOR A LAW

REQUIRING THE ARMY TO KEEP A PERSON IN THE LOOP SO THAT A

ROBOT CAN'T FIRE WITHOUT HUMAN PERMISSION.

This is critical. The Army had 10,000 armed mobile robots in Iraq as of a year
ago. Soldiers keep asking for robots to be more autonomous and more deadly. See:

http://www.comw.org/rma/fulltext/overview.html
http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usawc/Parameters
/00autumn/metz.htm
The Next Twist of the RMA by Steven Metz

http://www.comw.org/rma/fulltext/overview.html
http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usassi/ssipubs/
pubs2000/conflict/conflict.pdf
ARMED CONFLICT IN THE 21st CENTURY: THE INFORMATION
REVOLUTION AND POST-MODERN WARFARE by Steven Metz April 2000

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More mischaracterization of others positions...
Posted by: pdxlinuxchix on Oct 25, 2007 8:43 AM   
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Normally, I really like Ms Newitz's columns and I find them reasonable and insightful. This, however, I had to take issue with:

"Today leaders in the field of evolutionary biology like Steven Pinker and E.O. Wilson routinely say that people are hardwired to behave in certain ways based on their genetic heritage, which is often linked to their racial background or sex."


I'll take these one at a time:

1> Pinker is a cognitive neuro-scientist *not* an evolutionary biologist and certainly not a leader in the field.

2> If you've read Pinker, instead of reading others interpretations of him, you would know that he bends over backwards to avoid sounding like what you accuse him of.

Pinker has argued, quite passionately, that whether we find differences in the genes between various groups and even if those genes show variability that does not mean that the cause of equality is hurt at all because the argument for equality does not hinge (or shouldn't at any rate) on whether people are identical.

3> If you've read Wilson, as opposed to taking other people's word for what Wilson has and has not said, you would realize that what he is saying is far more modest and restrained than what you make him out to be saying.

Wilson has said that humans are an evolved species, that the brain is an evolved organ and therefore we can understand human behavior by asking evolutionary questions about how we came to be Homo sapiens .

The moral of this story is READ people you're going to invoke in your arguments don't just take others' words for them.

Dawkins didn't write a book about genes for selfishness despite the title of his first book. Wilson isn't a Nazi or a social Darwinist, he's a rather left-leaning academic who didn't know he would be misquoted. Pinker is a libertarian-leaning academic. NONE of above appears to hold any racist views and their writings do not appear to support sexism either. Just so you know.

Cheers
Aj

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» RE: Thanks Posted by: oregoncharles
This column is overreaching
Posted by: g on Oct 25, 2007 8:48 AM   
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First of all, to generalize from senile Watson to the whole world of science is as dishonest and unconscionable as generalizing from a couple of gang thugs to all blacks or Hispanics.
Secondly, may I remind this columnist that not one single voice in the world of science and academia supported Watson. In fact, quite the contrary. He was attacked by scientists who argued that the existing research does not support his claim. Personally, I'd say that this majority is more representative of science than Watson. Oh, yes, he got the support of David Duke, but no one would count *him* as a scientist.
So, Annalee, your reasoning skills seem no better than your average racist's (such as Watson, but at least he did something good in the '60s). Think about that. Generalizing from a few cases is exactly the kind of flawed reasoning that science can help overcome. And yes, science is a human endeavor, and, as such, flawed. So is democracy. Does that mean we should lose faith in democracy?

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Ignore the noise, Annalee, keep on writing!!
Posted by: talkville on Oct 26, 2007 2:16 AM   
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Ignore the fetichists and idolaters that take indignant umbrage at your article in these commentaries. This is the right track. There's a definite attitude of WORSHIP and OBEISANCE to the word "Science" and related words nowadays -- theologies in other costumes (white coats and mystical language for example). These are advanced signs of the crisis (among many other crises) of epistemology and, yes, even philosophy that is running rampant among us in this country.

A little side-note: the 1963 Supreme Court case of Abington School District legitimated the re-introduction of religion and theology into curricula in our schools. The sciences, but especially the human sciences have developed a bit differently since then. Something to think about.

The fact that an individual is a whiz at knowledge about the particular processes, functions, forms, etc of enzymes or proteins, does not grant that same individual blanket baptism to make pronouncements on other issues of general concern. The pronouncements of Dr Watson you describe are a case in point; he may be a Scient-ist but he's no man of Science. His notions on race and heredity are matters of OPINION and ought to be taken as just that.

Especially in current times, not only ethics but prudence points that, as citizens, we have a responsibility to question. Neither Science nor Languages are Magic! The un-ethical (or un-conscious) uses of both these days is of epidemic proportions. Despite the vast and exponential rise in our technological MEANS of investigation, it all comes down to what question was asked, who asked it and why?

So keep on bringing these issues to the table, Annalee; never mind the incense-smoke and the sound of bells in quite monasteries keep you from it.

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The Problem with Science
Posted by: Paxmana1 on Oct 26, 2007 1:17 PM   
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The problem with Science is that it is used to control our lives .. if its Scientific then it must be right type of mind set ..

"The aspiration to be Scientific is such and idol of the tribe to the present generation, is so sucked in with his mothers milk by every one of us, that we find it hard to conceive of a creature who should not feel it, and harder still to treat it freely as the altogether peculiar and one sided objective interest that it is".

William James
Principles of Psychology 1890


Governments and especially in the medical field make far reaching decisions based on science that impact on the life of billions and they have made some tragic mistakes that have killed millions and continue to do so.

There is a certain arrogance that sweeps the bodies under the carpet and refuses to clean its bathroom .. can we have more science in the public interest and one which uses the precautionary principle?.

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