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What Bill O'Reilly Just Learned About Black People

By Rory O'Connor, AlterNet. Posted September 26, 2007.


Here's a look at O'Reilly's latest racial gaffe from his eye-opening visit to Harlem, plus the "lowlights" of his thoughts on race over the last few years.

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If he weren't such a ridiculous, pathetic oaf, I'd invite Bill O'Reilly up to my 'hood for a little white-on-white bonding, re-education and diversity training -- if he weren't afraid to set foot in it!

It would obviously surprise, and perhaps even frighten the Man Who Wouldn't Shut Up, to learn that I now live in Harlem -- along with many other white people, not to mention a wide and growing assortment of Asians, Hispanics, Arabs, African Americans and all the rest of what makes Manhattan such a vibrant, interesting and exciting place to live and work.

Apparently O'Reilly, trapped back in time as well as in his suburban cocoon and Fox bunker, hasn't noticed any of the ongoing changes in Harlem -- or for that matter the rest of America -- that have taken place since he and I attended the same very Catholic, very strict and very segregated college prep school in lily-white Long Island back in the '60s.

Back then there was only one skinny little black kid in the class -- and he was regularly brutalized by the hulking football players. Given that racist background -- and given the further fact that he obviously hasn't progressed much since then -- it comes as no surprise that O'Reilly recently expressed his surprise that "there was no difference" between Sylvia's, a world-famous Harlem restaurant, and other restaurants in New York.

"I mean, it was exactly the same, even though it's run by blacks, primarily black patronship," the amazed talkmeister told his national audience of millions.

This latest in a depressingly long series of O'Reilly racial dustups began last week on his syndicated radio program, while he was discussing a recent dinner he had enjoyed at Sylvia's with his new pal Al Sharpton.

O'Reilly told his audience he "had a great time, and all the people up there are tremendously respectful." (For Bill, it's somehow always all about him!) He added, "I couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City. I mean, it was exactly the same, even though it's run by blacks, primarily black patronship."

Later, while talking with Fox News contributor (and National Public Radio senior correspondent) Juan Williams, O'Reilly further exposed his cosseted ignorance, saying, "There wasn't one person in Sylvia's who was screaming, 'MF-er, I want more iced tea.' You know, I mean, everybody was -- it was like going into an Italian restaurant in an all-white suburb in the sense of people were sitting there, and they were ordering and having fun. And there wasn't any kind of craziness at all."

Just imagine -- those crazy MF-ers in Harlem "ordering and having fun" just like they do in Italian restaurants in the "all-white" suburbs that O'Reilly STILL inhabits! What will they think of next -- donning leisure suits? (Frankly, the only crazy people I've ever heard yelling obscenities in New York restaurants were O'Reilly's Fox fellow travelers screaming for more booze in Langan's, the Irish pub they hang out in near their Sixth Avenue headquarters.)

The racist ranter then compounded his idiocy by noting, "I think black Americans are starting to think more and more for themselves. They're getting away from the Sharptons and the Jacksons and the people trying to lead them into a race-based culture. They're just trying to figure it out. 'Look, I can make it. If I work hard and get educated, I can make it.'"

As noted above, this embarrassing outburst is far from the first time O'Reilly has made provocative statements about race. (See Media Matters for America for documentation.)

But here are a few past lowlights:

  • During the Feb. 5 edition of Fox News' "The O'Reilly Factor," in a conversation about President Bush's description of Barack Obama as "articulate," O'Reilly told a Temple University professor, "Instead of black and white Americans coming together, white Americans are terrified. They're terrified. Now we can't even say you're articulate? We can't even give you guys compliments because they may be taken as condescension?"
  • On the Aug. 16, 2006, edition of "The O'Reilly Factor," O'Reilly called for "profiling of Muslims" at airports, arguing that detaining all "Muslims between the ages of 16 and 45" for questioning "isn't racial profiling," but "criminal profiling."
  • In a Feb. 27, 2006, conversation with a caller about the disproportionately few jobs and contracts that have gone to locals in the rebuilding of New Orleans, O'Reilly said: "[T]he homies, you know ... I mean, they're just not going to get the job."

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OBVIOUSLY......
Posted by: ALANHESTER on Sep 26, 2007 2:42 PM   
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This is the image that America wants: a profound bigot. Otherwise he wouldn't exist. It is also a strong message to the rest of the world: Don't believe the hype about democracy and freedom, we are nothing more than selfish and greedy individuals. The AMerican Dream is a myth.

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» RE: OBVIOUSLY...... Posted by: Bambi
» wrong turn... Posted by: Sushi
» RE: wrong turn... Posted by: Kym525
A long time ago, Gwendolyn Brooks wrote a poem about O'Reilly's experience
Posted by: sarahk on Sep 26, 2007 3:07 PM   
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Here is a poem by Gwendolyn Brooks about white folks visiting a restaurant in a black part of town. I think it also describes O'Reilly's experience.

I love those little booths at Benvenuti's

They get to Benvenuti's. There are booths
To hide in while observing tropical truths
About this—dusky folk, so clamorous!
So colorfully incorrect,
So amorous,
So flatly brave!
Boothed-in, one can detect,
Dissect.

One knows and scarcely knows what to expect.

What antics, knives, what lurching dirt; what ditty—
Dirty, rich, carmine, hot, not bottled up,
Straining in sexual soprano, cut
And praying in the bass, partial, unpretty.

.......(middle verses here)

But how shall they tell people they have been
Out Bronzeville way? For all the nickels in
Have not brought savagery or defined a "folk."

The colored people will not "clown."

The colored people arrive, sit firmly down,
Eat their Express Spaghetti, their T-bone steak,
Handling their steel and crockery with no clatter,
Laugh punily, rise, go firmly out of the door.

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Take a step back
Posted by: Alex Jung on Sep 26, 2007 3:24 PM   
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Try not to self-congratulate yourself too much there buddy about living in Harlem, and thinking that you're 'down' (conservatives aren't much of a standard there). You're actually part of a growing part of gentrification--so while you might score some cool points living in the 'hood,' the fact is that you're contributing to the displacement of low-income, black and Latino folks.

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"Just the same"
Posted by: defrag on Sep 26, 2007 3:37 PM   
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Oh, I bet they spit in Bill O'Reilly's food in lots of restaurants.

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» RE: "Just the same" Posted by: Lauren
O'Reilly Who?
Posted by: allusiv on Sep 26, 2007 4:32 PM   
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Bill O'Reilly doesn't deserve a spot on AlterNet, even if to bash him as racist.

Bill O'Reilly is a troll. Don't feed him!

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» RE: O'Reilly Who? Posted by: donl51
» RE: O'Reilly Who? Posted by: Lauren
» RE: O'Reilly Who? Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: O'Reilly Who? Posted by: VZEQICVA
Speaking as a black woman who has always thought for herself
Posted by: Kym525 on Sep 26, 2007 4:35 PM   
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I'm not surprised by O'Really's idiotic comments concerning his trip to Harlem. After all, this is a man who makes a very good living spreading distortions and half-truths about groups he knows zip, zilch, nada about.

Of course black people think for themselves, duh! We always have. I don't know how many times I've even discussed this on alternet and elsewhere until I'm blue in the face. There are black rockers, skaters, comic book geeks, nerds, chess players, classical pianists, opera singers, science-fiction writers...shall I continue (I'm a metalhead myself). Black people have always been diverse in thought as well as in deed. If one actually bothered to stop watching television and go out in the real world, you'd know this. In O'Really's small world (as in many others of his ilk) ALL black folk can be characterized by baggy pants, big earrings and ghetto fabulous.

Some black people support Jesse and Al, but for varying reasons. Some do not, just as some are going to vote for Hillary and some for Obama (and not simply because he's black, so let's put that to rest right now).

Politically speaking, black people are far more socially conservative than the spin-meisters like O'Really let on. Polls on the subject of gay marriage proved that. However, if you were to ask us why many of us vote democratic, the answers wouldn't necessarily be the same either.

No, I'm not shocked about O'Really's nonsense. I don't expect anything better from him. The people I'm really pissed off at are his target audience who are just as ignorant and backwards who and so easily led into believing the worst of black people. They judge us all by the actions of a few. More than likely when they heard their great-god O'Really saying something "positive" about black people, they probably thought it was a set-up created by Al Sharpton to please us 'liberals'.

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» independent black woman Posted by: davidg
to Mr. O'Reilly;
Posted by: eosrk on Sep 26, 2007 5:11 PM   
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you and NewsCorp can shove it in your ass......which you don't have much of, along with that "colored woman", whom is always siding with you!

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» RE: to Mr. O'Reilly; Posted by: Lily H.
Part of a Larger Trend?
Posted by: CatDad on Sep 26, 2007 5:36 PM   
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This is a painful time of transition for the Right and its echo chamber. The dream of Hispanics rallying around the GOP has been lost...other than the hard core Cuban exiles in S. Florida...The small inroads they made in the black community by pandering to pervasive black homophobia was lost by images of the bodies of black Americans floating down the Mississippi during Katrina.

The GOP is "re-branding" itself as a nativist party.....It will be a party of affluent white and white fundamentalists. This re-branding effort might take a few years and it may involve deliberately throwing the election to Hillary to create large amounts of negative energy to re-energize the base for the 2010 mid-terms.

The overt racist comments coming from the Right echo chamber is a reflection of what is to come.

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» RE: Part of a Larger Trend? Posted by: marcos
» RE: Part of a Larger Trend? Posted by: Lauren
Accurate Reporting
Posted by: rocketman on Sep 26, 2007 5:58 PM   
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I can take or leave O'Reilly, but check out his web site and listen to the Radio Factor on it.. I think you'll get a different take than what is written in this article..

As for Sharpton, I have little use for him..he's basically a bigot, but I was surprised to find out that he supported O Reilly and agreed to appear on his show again in support.

Apparently CNN and some left blogs have misquoted him on his latest comments with Juan Williams!

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» RE: Accurate Reporting Posted by: zorro
Rory- you went to Chaminade?
Posted by: EasterBunny on Sep 26, 2007 6:42 PM   
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i heard that's where O'Reilly went.

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Fair and Balanced
Posted by: chomsky on Sep 26, 2007 7:02 PM   
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This site is really fair and balanced isn't it... The guy that runs this site is obviously making a lot of money on just non-sense that tries to pull people apart. The whole deal on O'riely was totally taken out of context and is not what he was saying at all. I still don't like him because he is just a plain jerk, but he's right on most of his points, though he gets too stubborn on some and thinks that his way is the only one. He's a lot smarter than this white homeboy that is talking about living in the hood though. Wow! You know, black people, white people, and all the colors in between can make up their own mind on what they think, how they vote, and live. They don't need you, Oriely or anyone else to tell them how!!! Look at what you believe in, your religion, what is important to you in your life, and then go out and support those people. Just because they are in one party or the other doesn't mean anything, nor do campaign promises that pamper to groups and demean people. Quit being used.

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Fantastic!
Posted by: suprmark on Sep 27, 2007 12:53 AM   
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Bill O'Reilly is a racist bigot. Many in his audience are racist bigots. They trust him. They believe what he says (generally to our chagrin). He has just said that blacks are no different than whites. That they act in a civilised manner when at restaurants just like white people, and they dress to the occasion just like white people. That their food is worthy of praise.

We can shout at the tops of our lungs that everyone shares a common humanity and the listeners of Bill O'Reilly will not listen to us. He has furthered the cause of equality with those statements than most of us will in our lifetimes. Not to credit him, as it was Al Sharpton who gained his trust enough to show him the truth.

This is a step forward in the march to racial equality as much as it is a light on how racist powerful figures in the American media really are.

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» RE: Fantastic! Posted by: desidid
» RE: Fantastic! Posted by: perri6
It's almost as though they were human!
Posted by: DanYHKim on Sep 27, 2007 3:49 AM   
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It is important to see one's enemies as non-human. I imagine that O'Reilly thinks that terrorists subsist on a diet of their own babies. I recall an incident some years back where a wedding party in Iraq was attacked by U.S. forces, killing the couple and much of their families. It was somehow inconceivable that any gathering of Iraqis could be anything but trouble. I mean, whoda thunk they have weddings and stuff?

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averageaussie
Posted by: averageaussie on Sep 27, 2007 4:13 AM   
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Oreally, you turd. If the quotes I've seen here and in other reports are accurate then you have proven yourself to be a pathetic, bigoted, arrogant ass hole. How dare YOU, of all people, lower yourself, and, by extension, your audience to such a vile racist outpouring.
I have travelled often to the us and witnessed the self destruction of what may have once been a great country, on each visit I have found that "white" americans are just like oreally as described above, to the point that I will never ask anything of "white" americans. oreally, you are an absolutely unfair and unbalanced pompous fool.

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Factor this...
Posted by: peacelf on Sep 27, 2007 4:29 AM   
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O'Reilly is one in a million, actually several millions, who feel the same as he does, and they would be surprised to find that blacks want their piece of the pie, too.

However, the real telling part of the O'Reilly ignorant racist rant story is his disdain for blacks who refuse to assimilate for historical and other reasons. O'Reilly has not a clue why some African Americans would not want to assimilate. To O'Reilly, racism is a thing of the past; discrimination does not exist, nor does racial terrorism.

The Jena six play no part in the consciousness of O'Reilly idols, nor does a black man dragged behind a pick up truck, or an innnocent black man shot by police. The Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons of the world are just "stirring up trouble." And, life would be so much better if "those people" would just "act white." It's no wonder Michael Jackson is confused.

My point is simply this: that O'Reially is not an anomaly but speaking for many americans who have not embraced the "other." And, this is further perpetuated by the corporate media that provides white america with racist imagery from Cops to marketing Rap music that made Cornel West ask in Democracy Matters, "How ironic that in America we've moved so quickly from Martin Luther King Jr.'s "Let Freedom Ring!" to "Bling! Bling!"...

In defense of Rappers, some have simply taken free market fundamentalism to an art form, and giving the record labels what they want; but O'Reilly and his white-bred listeners interpret Rap as counterculture, when it is materialistic hyper-culture, or, more specifically, doing what Elvis did and O'Reilly does: buying "things."

Meanwhile, the Sharptons and Jacksons keep building the hope of "Let freedon ring!" while O'Reilly inadvertedly? tears it down.

Peace

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4.1
Posted by: kepstein7777 on Sep 27, 2007 4:51 AM   
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Regarding the first bullet point on the list of O'Reilly faux pas', I think there is a grain of truth to what he says.

The excesses of political correctness are making otherwise good-intentioned people nervous and tongue-tied. Should a black person be afraid to tell a white bass player that he's got a great sense of funk?...Or that he's a great dancer and has a good sense of rhythm?...Or to say Eminem is a good rapper?...all because he's afraid of being accused of buying into myths?

If integration and diversity are good things, we should all be able to feel comfortable in simple, honest, harmless conversation. And that includes some of us who might not say the "right" thing all the time due to our lack of hipness, worldliness, PC sense, social skills, etc., regardless of what GWB and O'Reilly are saying these days.

By the way, the first thing that hit me about Obama is how articulate he is, apart from whether or not he is black. I saw him in a long interview, and was amazed at how good he was at getting through tough questions without getting cornered or appearing evasive, compared with most other mainstream politicians. Hillary, for example, comes across as evasive and superficial on pretty much every question she gets. There...I said it: Obama is articulate...Boo!!!

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an aside...
Posted by: MyLeftFoot on Sep 27, 2007 5:52 AM   
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O'Connor speaks of Nassau County where he and Bill grew up as 'lily white'. the census numbers don't bear that out factually.
you can check it here;
http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/popInfo.php?locIndex=22485

adding up the minorities it comes to about 47% of the population in Nassau County. hardly lily white...

this sounds a lot like the 212 vs 516 & 631 area code snobbery that one adopts when one moves in to the city from the 'burbs.
and yes, Bill is an idiot...

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Why is Alternet giving either of these people press?
Posted by: Bart Thesc on Sep 27, 2007 6:21 AM   
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Both O'Reilly and Sharpton are known divisive knuckleheads. It is not a surprise when either of them say incredibly stupid things. Aren't there better things that Alternet could be covering? Like how bad our use of plastic grocery bags is going to screw the planet in the next fifty years.

What a waste of perfectly good electrons.

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» RE: Why knuckleheads. Posted by: Lauren
m2007
Posted by: m2007 on Sep 27, 2007 6:50 AM   
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The worst mistake an intelligent person can make is to believe what they read or hear reported on the news without doing their own research. Someone who jumps onto a bandwagon because of another's quote is just following blindly and not using their own resources and brains.
Anyone who has posted here, including the original story writer, who had taken O'Reilly's comments literally, without knowing when, how and in what context they were said, should take another look. What I really see from most of these posts are people who are close-minded and seemingly unwilling to do some research and form their own opinions.

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what he really said
Posted by: mariannem85 on Sep 27, 2007 6:53 AM   
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Just first off..... I can't stand Oreilly
He's a stupid old man.
But before anyone else goes freaking out about what he said take a listen to the context in which these comments derived
I always second guess what the media shoves down my throat. I heard the little sound bites of what he said on the radio and I couldn't figure out what the hell he was talking about. So i went to the jerks website and listened to the whole hour when this particular discussion took place.
Here's the link
http://billoreilly.com/blog?action=view
Blog&blogID=-514007249730622364

And I have to say, this is absolutely ridiculous. His whole speech was to speak out against the stereotypes of black Americans. All he said in a nutshell was he was surprised that sylvia's didn't have a more of a 'proud of our culture' kind of atmosphere, just like mexican restaurants have mariachi bands and photos on the wall of their heritage. If taken out of context - its easy to see how this is misunderstood. Yeah its probably not the SMARTEST way to put it - but we all know he's an idiot. I just don't think he's racist. And the other comments everyone was highlighting in the news.... about the ice tea and stuff. He said that after talking about how ignorant people have these stereotypes of how black americans live their lives. Some people (including his grandmother as he pointed out) are intimidated because of all the gangsta rappers images of themselves and their friends. His remarks were only to make people think of how the media portrays that particular ethnicity. And more often than not - its not in a good light. I just dont understand what everyone is reaching at here.....

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If you don't want to listen like mariannem85 bravely did,
Posted by: porgygirl on Sep 27, 2007 7:33 AM   
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you can read some transcript at

mediamatters.org

His comments do indeed seem to have been taken out of context. He's not saying he's surprised that people weren't yelling for m-fing ice tea; he's saying that based on what a lot of crass hip hop seems to suggest, one might expect that, but that's not how it really is.

That's not to say he's not ignorant. He claims that black people are starting (starting!!) to think for themselves, and apparently thinks the most noble thing a person of color can do is decide not to think about racism anymore.

And some of his statements on other occasions have been bigoted and crazy, as this article points out. On this particular occasion, he's being quoted out of context. No, I don't feel sorry for him--Mr. "DailyKos is a hate site" O'Reilly is getting a taste of his own medicine.

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This is a good development
Posted by: Frankstank on Sep 27, 2007 8:00 AM   
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I actually think this is an amazing opportunity to air the thoughts of a lot of white (and asian) Americans about black people. Let's face it, people might not admit it in public, but this is the way they think. It is better to get it out there and talk about it and how many misconceptions there are about black people and their culture.

Of course anyone with a brain who really knows black people, or lived in a majority black community, knows people are people.

I always recommend people go against all the prejudices and trash we are fed about black people. Just get to know people and work hard to get past the mistrust and bad history. If you treat somebody like you want to be treated, then 90 per cent of people are fine. As for the nasty 10 per cent, like anywhere be cautious.

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Recycling
Posted by: jamester on Sep 27, 2007 8:19 AM   
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For as long as O'Reilly's been on the air, you sure do recycle the same few quotes over and over again. Kinda looks like you're having to strain to make your argument...

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Judy
Posted by: Judy Kolbaba on Sep 27, 2007 8:36 AM   
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I am continuously shocked and dismayed that this poor excuse for a journalist/human being, better known as Bill O`Reilly is still allowed air time. Never has anyone instilled such outrage in me, with his smug, self absorbed demeanor. When I heard he actually cut the mic on guests because they dared to disagree with him, when it became apparant that his opinions, stated as facts, were nothing more than ignorant rants, and now, this ridiculous speech about the restaurant in Harlem, I am forever grateful for the Keith Olbermans in the world !!!

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Why is anyone surprised by this?
Posted by: pdxlinuxchix on Sep 27, 2007 8:39 AM   
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Look, I think that O'Reilly was taken out of context AND he was genuinely surprised that black folks can be civilized. Is there anyone here who is surprised by that? If so, what country have you been living in?

I'm a black woman, working in the physical sciences (evolutionary biology) and if I've learned nothing else about race in America, it is this: if you are black, you had best be prepared to be the best and brightest person in the room; every room, every time. If you do that you will be considered average for your efforts. Recognize this and move on with your life. White folks are going to say entirely ignorant stuff about black folks. Such as it is and such as it always will be. As long as it is not legal for these attitudes to become your problem (in other words, as long as you can still rent or buy a home where you wish, get the job you are qualified for, go to the school you are qualified to be admitted to) then there's not a lot else that *can* be done.

It's not that I think this is the way things *should* be, only that this is how things are. Let it go, folks. Every time liberals (and I am one) scream when some right-wing media figure spouts off some stupid statement or another we lessen the impact when it really IS a big deal. We should hold these reactions for when it's really necessary. This isn't one of those times, given the source. Like I said before, is there anyone surprised? If so, why are you surprised?

Cheers
Aj

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condescending and boorish yes, but not racist
Posted by: gerdhansel on Sep 27, 2007 8:48 AM   
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Thought police alert! Thought police alert!

What Bill O said was condescending and boorish, but give me a break. All the criticisms I've seen on this post have taken the boorish rants of this clueless Irish Catholic and recast them in much more caustic, abrasive terms.

When you take, "they were actually wearing suits" and make him sound like Archie Bunker deriding "Mau Maus with bones in their noses" you're putting words in the guys mouth.

Some people are just too thin-skinned for their own good, and I'm not just talking about the melanin-challenged. There is a world of difference between Bill O's surprise that nobody yelled "M'fer give me some ice tea," and Don Imus calling the Rutgers basketball team "nappy-headed ho's."

As a Southerner, I'm keenly aware that the word "nappy" carries some serious baggage. Imus should've known better, and he deserved what he got.

Maybe Bill O is a flaming racist, but all I've seen on this post are lame attempts to put words in the guy's mouth and play junior thought police.

Die gedanken sind frei. My thoughts belong to me until they come out my mouth, and I've really had it with thin-skinned people who make such accusations based on nothing more than a gut feeling or leap of faith.

If I hear one more person say, "when you say that you really mean this terrrible thing" I'm going to lose it. When I say a thing, I mean what I said and not what you think I said.

Here's a unique thought: maybe Bill O is a clueless, boorish white guy and nothing more. The way to deal with the Bill O'reilly's of the world is to educate them, not call them terrible names and try to destroy them

If boorish white guys can't say what they think about racial issues, this county will never have a real dialog about race, and that would be a crying shame.

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