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Hillary's Pro-Nuclear Stance

By Robert Scheer, Truthdig. Posted August 15, 2007.


So what if Clinton is pro-choice and a woman if the price of proving her capacity to be commander in chief is that we end up with an American version of Margaret Thatcher.
Robert Scheer

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What in the world was Sen. Hillary Clinton thinking when she attacked Sen. Barack Obama for ruling out the use of nuclear weapons in going after Osama bin Laden? And why aren't her supporters more concerned about yet another egregious example of Clinton's consistent backing for the mindless militarism that is dragging this nation to ruin?

So what that she is pro-choice and a woman if the price of proving her capacity to be commander in chief is that we end up with an American version of Margaret Thatcher?

In response to the 9/11 hijackers, armed with weapons no more sophisticated than $3 box cutters, American military spending, with Senate Armed Services Committee member Clinton's enthusiastic support, has catapulted beyond Cold War levels.

Sen. Clinton has treated the military budget as primarily a pork-barrel target of opportunity for jobs and profit in New York state, supports increased money for missile defense and every other racket the military-industrial complex comes up with, and still feels no obligation to repudiate her vote for the disastrous Iraq war.

Given her sorry record of cheerleading the irrational post-Cold War military buildup, do we not have a right, indeed an obligation, to question whether Clinton is committed to creating a more peaceful world?

Don't say that we weren't warned if a President Hillary Clinton further imperils our world, as she has clearly positioned herself as the leading hawk in the Democratic field. What other reason was there for first blasting Obama for daring to state that he would meet with foreign leaders whom Bush has branded as sworn enemies, and then for the attack on Obama's very sensible statement that it would be "a profound mistake" to use nuclear weapons in Pakistan and Afghanistan in the attempt to eliminate bin Laden?

Isn't that a no-brainer -- or can Clinton conceive of an occasion where even the threat, let alone the actuality, of a nuclear attack in the immediate neighborhood of nuclear-armed Pakistan and India would send the right message? And what about the dangerous message of Clinton's assault on Obama; "I don't believe that any president should make any blanket statements with respect to the use or non-use of nuclear weapons."

Huh? Just exactly how does one make a compelling case to other nations against the proliferation of nuclear weapons when members of the nuke club, particularly the president of the one nation that has killed hundreds of thousands of people with two of these ungodly weapons, will not, at the very least, promise to abstain from first use of a weapon that could quite easily eliminate most life on this planet?

Of course Obama was right, and it was no different than Sen. Clinton's statement in April 2006, when she said, "I would certainly take nuclear weapons off the table," in relation to preventing Iran from developing such weapons.

Back then, she recognized that nuclear weapons are weapons against civilization, not a means of ensuring its survival. "This administration has been very willing to talk about using nuclear weapons in a way we haven't seen since the dawn of a nuclear age," she said. "I think that's a terrible mistake." Yes, indeed -- and Hillary's supporters will no doubt insist that this statement reflects her true feelings on the matter and that "militarist Hillary" is just an act to get elected.

Act or reality, it's working. Pundits for the National Review, The Weekly Standard and other pro-war outlets have come to applaud Clinton. A host of political scientists and other campaign hustlers have also approved this image makeover; as a recent Boston Globe headline put it, "Tough talk drives Clinton effort: National security stance seen adding to image of strength."

One political scientist from Texas stated: "She's come off as credible and serious on national defense -- an issue that two years ago most of us would have thought would be a liability for her."

The Globe noted that "When Geraldine Ferraro was the Democratic candidate for vice president in 1984, she was dogged by questions about whether she could 'push the button' to launch an attack if the Cold War turned hot." The paper then quoted Ferraro as saying that Clinton, whom she supports for president, has passed that test: "You can't do that with Hillary Clinton. Hillary is in a totally different place."

Great, so forget the hope that a woman president might prove to be more enlightened than macho men in the matter of peacemaking, and instead rest assured that Hillary would have the cojones to "push the button" that would kill us all. Once again, the old Clintonian tactic of triangulation: positioning oneself politically instead of taking a position of integrity.

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Robert Scheer is the co-author of The Five Biggest Lies Bush Told Us About Iraq. See more of Robert Scheer at TruthDig.

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Sheds feathers like a Hawk, Must Be a Hawk
Posted by: edith on Aug 15, 2007 2:25 PM   
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Yes, Hillary is a warmonger. She will do and say anything to burnish her militaristic credentials. Like her husband, she has no inner moral core, no firm identity beyond the pursuit of political power. Yet some "liberals" will scream that one is a "Bushie" if one criticizes the Hawk Hillary.

Not a dimes worth of difference between her and Bush on international or military policy.

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Progressive Democrats' dilemma
Posted by: sacudalanza on Aug 15, 2007 5:21 PM   
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Robert Scheer's piece reminds me of a sad but sage remark by a pundit that goes something like this: ccnservative republicans always hope THEIR candidate means what he/she says; liberal democats, however, always hope that THEIR candidate DOESN'T mean what she/he says!

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Hillary Pro-Nuke?
Posted by: radical53 on Aug 15, 2007 5:51 PM   
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As a person of the far left, I like the fact that AlterNet offers a progressive view of things. I am a little worried, though, when the prevailing view seems to be pro-Edwards, luke-warm on Obama, and fairly hostile towards Hillary. Edwards can't govern, Hillary can, and I am starting to wonder about Obama, even though I love the guy. Anyone portraying Hillary as a militarist is probably too young to remember her valedictory address at Wellesley, when she put her prepared statement aside and launched an impromptu destruction of Rep. Sen. Ed Brooke after he had preached to the graduating class about citizenship and protest. The sad part is that Hillary knows what to say to get elected, even when it is less candid than Sen. Obama's statements. I believe her core values are much further left than the DLC positions she is taking.

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» RE: Hillary Pro-Nuke? Posted by: Urstrly
» RE: Hillary Pro-Nuke? Posted by: EKSwitaj
» RE: Hillary Pro-Nuke? Posted by: MindyB
Hilary aint no Thatcher
Posted by: may261989 on Aug 15, 2007 10:24 PM   
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While I have severe misgivings over Hilary, I had to live under Thatcher in the U.K in the late 80's and whatever reasoning you may give for the comparision I cant for the life of me compare the two.

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Why do I get the feeling-
Posted by: WitchyNy on Aug 16, 2007 5:30 AM   
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that Hillary was 'promised' the presidency by the 'powers that be' for not walking out on her husband when he cheated on her?

I know she is trying to win....but if the only way to 'win' is to sell out to the rich Jews and the Military-this country has lost everything already.

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Kucinich is the most sane one
Posted by: leemiller38 on Aug 16, 2007 7:46 AM   
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Dennis Kucinich offers an alternative to all these alpha-leader pro-military types. He offers a chance at security through peace which makes more sense on our overpopulated planet. One or two H-bombs going off anywhere could end civilization as we know it. Let's get rid of nukes-NOW! If we don't overcome our reptile brain thinking we may end up envying reptiles who can hide under rocks. I'm voting for Kucinich, the unglamorous, white male who probably won't win--too many reptile brains to overcome.

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mr. john polifronio
Posted by: johnp on Aug 16, 2007 5:30 PM   
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Ridiculous! Hillary must take the blame for a situation created by the very voters complaining here. You folk don't ask yourself if Hillary wants to be president? That's what you need to ask, before you ask whether she's compelled to employ rhetoric that renders her immune from the charge that, being a woman makes her incapable of understanding the realities of war. Sen. Clinton has concluded that most of the votes will come from people that are "not" opposed to war, but only to "this" war, to "Bush's" war. All this griping, about her hawkishness is a lot of hot air. The problem is, that with the sole exception of the war effort, Sen. Clintion has never used tough guy rhetoric, because virtually none of her efforts or goals require it. Comparisons with Thatcher, are laughable nonsense.
jp

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koolwoman
Posted by: koolwoman on Aug 16, 2007 9:27 PM   
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Hillary is our best hope to return to a civilied society,our best hope for universal health care, for a healthy environment, food and shelter for the weak and vulnerable, and the use of diplomacy before bombs, and retaining established social programs, in other words, what is best for ALL the citizens. She has my confidence and my complete support

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» RE: koolwoman Posted by: MindyB
Political rhetoric vs. principled stand?
Posted by: Artaraxl on Aug 17, 2007 7:07 AM   
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Why do they have to be mutually exclusive?

I understand that Hillary is playing it like she's running in the General Election already, and some of her rhetoric and even positions may be tailored accordingly, but, why can't a principled stand against first use of nuclear weapons be a GE position? Clinton is so "politically savvy" that it's all too easy to become cynical and skeptical about her sincerity.

If the general public is really so militaristic and hawkish that they would seriously want to use nuclear weapons in Pakistan (an insane idea, IMO), then CONVINCE them otherwise! Don't pander to ignorance.

-Axl

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Eloquent Against the Iraq War--Before she was For it
Posted by: JackieGiles on Aug 18, 2007 9:11 AM   
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Am I the only one who remembers the eloquent e-mail Hillary sent around to "Friends of Hillary" denouncing the idea of invading Iraq? Either she meant what she said and voted for the war out of a cynical self-interested fear of being called unpatriotic and weak on terror--or she was gambling that her "Friends" would remember what she said, not what she did. It's rather like her expectation that voters will recall her failed effort to revamp health care early in Bill's administration rather than her current status as the recipient of the second highest amount of campaign money from medical care providers and drug companies.

New Yorkers seem to think she's doing a good job in the senate--I hope she stays there.

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RIGHT ON!
Posted by: Flora Gael on Aug 18, 2007 3:05 PM   
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I love this article. Alternet finally faulting Clinton for being the vapid fascist she is.

KUCINICH ALL THE WAY! THE ONLY PROGRESSIVE IN THE RACE!

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Hillary , a likud party nominee
Posted by: persian on Aug 19, 2007 11:17 AM   
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Both Hillary and Guilliani represent the likud party in this racce. Hillary's only core value is whatever advances her political ambitions. Her vote for bush to go to war and then opposing it when it became obvious what a disaster it was demonstaes her as a value -free, moral -free candidate. I guess in the end it will depend on AIPAC and the likud boys in Tel Avive to decide who is going to be our next president.

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Are Americans too stupid???
Posted by: gellero on Aug 21, 2007 8:44 PM   
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The 'Lukid party' candidate?? Are you saying American democracy is for the ignorant and stupid?? If that's the case, who should vote and decide the political course of the USA?? Property owners? College graduates?? The military??You don't have to vote for Hillary, no one does. You must be one of the elite who is too smart to be manipulated by the mass media. I think you should be one of the wise ones to decide our fate. Will you take the rsponsibility??i

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Finally! Somebody telling it like it is about Hillary Clinton!
Posted by: MindyB on Aug 27, 2007 10:11 AM   
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Well it's about time somebody actually wrote about who Hillary Clinton really is! She has been flying high because the media & political analysts have been working hard to keep her ahead of the pack in the Democratic race. Why? because her real track record is that of a center right democrat, much more befitting to the media moguls and lobbyists! and certainly less threatening of the "establishment" than Barack Obama.

I won't speak much of the race issue, but it certainly is there, except that people are too affraid to mention it, so they hide behind weak excuses "lack of experience:, etc. The bottom line is that the media who controls the ongoing American Illusion, would rather see a white woman than a black man sitting in the White House. Fogging the scenery with non sensical rhetoric, omitting important information about both candidates, etc. is the perfect way of controlling the primary election process.

It matters not that her record shows her lack of understanding of what the American people need and want. Hillary's greed and need for more power have driven her to sell her soul to the highest bidder to get where she wants to be.

Voting for the Iraq Invasion, even after "promising" her "friends" that she was opposed to such actions shows the fabric of which she is made--an elephant dressed in a donkey suit.

She has even gone as far as publicly criticizing (more than once) the effectiveness of the Iraqi goverment and its inability to put Iraq back together, when she knows very well that the Iraqi government cannot do much as long as we are there destroying everything in sight and ruffling everyone's feathers!. For her to blame the Iraqi government for the "lack of progress" is not only outrageous it is sick! When does she begin to take responsibility for her hand in this mess?? When does she say "America is responsible for the chaos in Iraq"?

Everyday that goes by she slips more and more into the right wing mentality, and aligns herself with the likes of Bush and company.

Barack Obama is the only candidate who has the integrity and intelligence to be able to change the course of this train wreck we are in. Simply because he doesn't do the "macho" stance does not mean he is not strong and decisive, and certainly does not mean he cannot effectuate positive change in the major issues affecting this country. He is the only hope this country has to pull us away from impending train wreck.
People need to wake us, do your own objective research, check their records and make your own dicisions absent the influence of the media and political analysts.

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