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How to Control My Body

By Annalee Newitz, AlterNet. Posted April 24, 2007.


Recent efforts to limit women's control of their bodies doesn't end with abortion. There is also a recent decision from the FDA regarding a pill that would eliminate menstruation.

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The biological functioning of my body is all over the news right now. Lawmakers and federal regulatory agencies are asking themselves whether I should be allowed to have abortions, and whether I should be allowed to take a drug that prevents me from menstruating.

You probably know about the brouhaha over abortion, spurred by the recent Supreme Court decision, but you may not have realized that decision came as the Food and Drug Administration decides the fate of Lybrel, a birth control pill that could liberate millions of women from paying Tampax for "wings" every month.

But these two issues are not unrelated. They are both symptoms of how much the government loves to regulate the basic functioning of my body. Still, there are some key differences. Most arguments over abortion boil down to whether you think a woman's right to control her future is more or less important than the much-debated rights of a potential human.

Because the legal status of a fetus has become part of the abortion debate, it's hard to cast abortion purely as a female reproductive rights issue (as much as I'd like to do that). These days the abortion debate is also about how we define human life and whether a fetus constitutes a being that deserves legal protection.

However, the issue of controlling menstrual cycles is unequivocally about the female reproductive cycle, untainted by questions of embryo civil rights. Why should there be any controversy over pharmaceutical company Wyeth marketing Lybrel, which is exactly like a birth control pill without the seven-day placebo cycle that creates a fake period? (In case you aren't a Pill geek, the period women have while taking contraceptive pills is caused only by hormone fluctuation and not a biological need to flush out unused eggs -- the Pill works by preventing the ripening of said eggs. So it's purely a cosmetic menstrual cycle.)

There are good reasons to test Lybrel, since nobody is completely sure what might happen in the long term to women who stop menstruating. But now that Wyeth has demonstrated the safety of this pill, what's the big deal?

The New York Times recently published a much-discussed article about negative reactions to Lybrel and other drugs like it. Canadian psychologist Christine Hitchcock told the paper she didn't like "the idea that you can turn your body on and off like a tap." Giovanna Chesler, who just made a documentary about "the end of menstruation," objects to the idea that taking a daily pill makes women appear defective. "Women are not sick," she said. "They don't need to control their periods for 30 or 40 years."

It's interesting that Chesler uses the word "control" in her comment. Why are women eager to relinquish control over their periods, arguably one of the most annoying parts of being a biological female? After all, we take calcium pills to control bone density; we take showers to control odor; and take ibuprofen to control pain. None of these things are necessary. We don't do them because we are sick, and not doing them won't kill us. So why shouldn't we take control of our bodies and stop having periods if we want to?

There are no fetuses being harmed here. Why should we reject Lybrel, if not for the dogma that it's unnatural for women to control their reproductive functions? Yes, Wyeth stands to make money on Lybrel, and I'm no fan of pharmaceutical companies, but women already pay to deal with their periods. We pump billions of dollars into feminine hygiene products so Kotex can sell us more wings and soft applicators and superabsorbent crap.

I say if we can take pills that free us from having to deal with the monthly goo and bother, then let's do it. Nobody is saying periods are sick or wrong here. It's just that they're annoying and uncomfortable -- and if women don't want to deal with them, they shouldn't have to.

The social rejection of drugs such as Lybrel -- which the FDA has already turned down for approval once -- is based on the idea that there is something about women's bodies that women themselves should not be allowed to control. Even in the absence of the fetus debates, we're still seeing women who are afraid to control their reproductive systems. As long as we are in thrall to this fear, we will never triumph in the struggle for abortion rights and effective birth control.

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Annalee Newitz (annalee@techsploitation.com) is a surly media nerd who gets horrible migraines from birth control pills, so she (alas) will remain trapped in a prehistoric female body.

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Posted by: porgygirl on Apr 24, 2007 2:48 PM   
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I agree--if it's safe, it should be an option. But I hope menstruation doesn't become one more biological process that many women and girls feel like we have to pretend we're not subject to, like growing hair on our legs or smelling like anything other than floral chemicals.

And by the way, everyone who gets a period should check out www.lunapads.com or some other reusable products. Much much nicer, and better for the environment than bleached disposable toxic products.

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Control Our Bodies, Ourselves
Posted by: terradea on Apr 24, 2007 3:32 PM   
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Women can and should take control over their own bodies. Not only should they be knowledgeable regarding their cycles, they should be knowledgeable regarding pregnancy, and terminating it themselves in the privacy of their own home if they choose to do so.

There are many movements across the world in which women are training each other on terminating pregnancies without medical or legislative intervention. This knowledge needs to be made available to every woman. Take back control of your own body!

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» RE: Control Our Bodies, Ourselves Posted by: mthompson6887
I'm a guy
Posted by: UnEasyOne on Apr 25, 2007 3:55 AM   
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I have questions about the long term safety of this new pill. I wouldn't recommend that my wife take it since I remember the side effects of the early pill (much higher dosages were used) and contraceptive implants.

So what? None of my business whether you take it or not. If you can safely eliminate this from your life, good for you. As long as you are aware that you are something of a guinea pig and the drug has been properly tested for safety, I wish you well.

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This is an excellent point
Posted by: WhatNow? on Apr 25, 2007 4:48 AM   
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"After all, we take calcium pills to control bone density; we take showers to control odor; and take ibuprofen to control pain. None of these things are necessary. We don't do them because we are sick, and not doing them won't kill us. So why shouldn't we take control of our bodies and stop having periods if we want to?"

I am curious as to what the moral crusaders would say to that. Their illogical and intolerant answers would probably be rather amusing if they weren't so sick.

I also have to agree with UnEasyOne and would hope that this drug will not cause some unforeseen ill effects. Pharmacuetical companies are not really an entity to trust that our wellbeing is one of their primary concerns.

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ccaporusso
Posted by: ccaporusso on Apr 25, 2007 5:04 AM   
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Until we can figure out WHY it is that women menstruate, I feel very nervous about this pill.

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» RE: ccaporusso Posted by: fernitski
» RE: ccaporusso Posted by: midnightskiss
Menstruation Celebration!
Posted by: JadedThing on Apr 25, 2007 5:32 AM   
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I believe that this is another opportunity to embrace choice when it comes to women's bodies. If the FDA is ambivalent in its decision for any reason other than the safety and effectiveness of the drug, that is a problem.

The issues around this pill are simple: If you don't like it, don't take it. If you don't want to be the guinea pig, wait it out and see what kind of side effects result in the coming years.

It made me uncomfortable that the author referred to periods as annoying and seemed to give them an air of "ickiness." Not all women share this view of their periods. In fact, personally, I enjoy getting my period every month. Now, don't get me wrong, the cramps, the stomaches, and the headaches put me out of capacity for at least a day--not my favorite thing. But menstruating is something special that I like to be a part of. To me, it is part of my womanhood. Not only that, I see menstruation as a monitor of my health. If a non-menopausal women stops or has irregularities, something is up--pregnancy, perhaps illness, or maybe even a sign of an eating disorder.

All of this said, if this pill is approved, I would most likely not choose to take it. However, I also think of the women out there with extraordinary pain, etc., that come along with their periods (it is different from woman to woman) and surely this pill would be a God-sent for them. And in fact, if any woman wants to go on this medication for any reason--more power to her for making that decision. This is about CHOICE. I would not look down on someone taking the medication, nor would I tolerate someone looking down upon me for celebrating my period and choosing to continue it.

Also, to the last comment, we DO know why women menstruate. I won't spend more time here on the scientific specifics, but you can certainly look them up.

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i like my period too!
Posted by: CaciStevie on Apr 25, 2007 6:22 AM   
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While I agree that this new pill (like any contraceptive option) should be made available for women who would like to take it, I don't appreciate the author's implication that those of us who would choose not to take it are backward or overly conservative. No birth control pill is 100% effective; I like my period because it is a monthly reminder that my pill is doing its job, keeping unwanted fetuses out of my uterus.

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Because, just like fluoride in the H2O, this pill is a form of government mind control.
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Apr 25, 2007 7:18 AM   
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Stear clear of the HPV vaccine, too. A little cancer never hurt anyone for very long.

Spooky stuff, "rational medicine".

/sarcasm directed at the perpetually whining "we need more long term studies before I let you decide how you should care for your body" crowd.

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Wombs
Posted by: talkville on Apr 25, 2007 7:19 AM   
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You have a womb, which not all of us have. The State contests it (as do the pharmaceutical industry, the medical industry, the insurance industry, the fashion industry, etc.). There's production, and there's re-production. Which makes you (the female) much more interest-ing than me (a male). The hyphen is deliberate. Demo-graphics is much more important these days than demo-cratics. The female and the male are controlled these days. It's about power. There's the actual and the potential; then there's the ubiquitous dream, that promise of the good life, just around the corner of the corner. If you didn't have a womb, you'd be in this with each of us. Solidarity, and keep on resisting. The human body or parts of the human body are not for ownership.

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Regular BC pills work the same way!
Posted by: deegee99 on Apr 25, 2007 7:45 AM   
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What do we need a new birth control pill for? Whenever I want to skip my period for a "special" weekend event I just continue taking my birth control pills. As was pointed out earlier, the last 7 are placebos giving us a false period. Just toss the placebos and continue on to the next pack of BC pills.
I am leary of never having a 'period' though. Mother Nature does know what she is doing.

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Red Brown and Blue Party comment
Posted by: redbrownandblueparty on Apr 25, 2007 7:49 AM   
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This article is a sad commentary on the state of a liberal womam's [spelling intentional] consciousness which has internalized the patriarchic "control" paradigm. The title is telling: "How to Control My Body." This is pro-choice gone mad. No wonder there is such a backlash from pro-life womem, misguided and "controlled" by the patriarchy as they are. How far from nature and womamhood can liberated womem get? Imagine: "Monthly goo and bother," "periods are annoying and uncomfortable," "trapped in a prehistoric female body." Patriarchs don't come close to this kind of hatred. Women don't take Motrin because they're sick? What do you call a headache? What do you call all those feminine hygiene products and other guinea pig remedies, if not sickness? The Red Brown and Blue Party restores sanity to womamhood. It offers The Lover Government whose central symbol is a womam, not disguised phony men body haters with their "will to power" pro-choice fascism. Who do they bully? Their own naturally beautiful and healthy bodies. Love is a womam's virtue. This article is love turned inside out.

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» RE: ed Brown and Blue Party comment Posted by: Terry C - End Bush's War Now!
a right that I wouldn't take advantage of
Posted by: martinet on Apr 25, 2007 7:55 AM   
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I agree that the pill that suppresses menstruation should be readily available to women who want it. I understand that many women struggle with their periods (something I've never really done, since mine haven't been painful and cause little more than some inconvenience and moodiness) and would be tremendously grateful not to have to deal with them. I, however, would not take advantage of such an opportunity--not out of any crunchy-granola menstrual cultishness, but for a reason I haven't seen mentioned yet, and wonder why not.

I took birth control pills for close to fifteen years as my preferred contraceptive method. Took them faithfully and never once had as much as a scare. Since their effectiveness, when taken properly as I did, is in the high 90th percentile, I *shouldn't* have ever been scared. Yet I still welcomed that "red flag" every month, just to ensure that no, I was NOT pregnant. Even now, when my birth control method is my husband's vasectomy--at an even higher effectiveness percentile--I still feel a sense of relief at the surety that another month has elapsed without pregnancy.

I never wanted to have kids, and never intend to. My husband got his kids from his previous marriage, and is fine with not having any more with me. If I had gotten pregnant--or, god forbid, ever do get pregnant, in whatever hideously unlikely scenario would create that--I would have no qualms about aborting, IF I knew in the first trimester.

And that's why I need the period. Even with my faithful record of birth control, I have no faith that I would know I was pregnant if I didn't have that indicator. I'm large, so I might not notice early pregnancy weight gain that other, slimmer women might. I have a body that maintains its equilibrium well, so I might escape morning sickness or whatever else makes the little "pregnant!" lightbulb go off for women in TV shows. If I didn't have a period telling me every month that I'm not pregnant--how would I know? And how would I manage the attendant paranoia that would come with not knowing? And finally, if I didn't know for several months, would I end up having to consider abortion in the second trimester (which I feel less comfortable with) or to consider what would be, for me, the equally painful choice of having a child I didn't want?

I believe in a woman's right to as many safe, easily accessible contraception methods as possible. I understand that my psychological need for the "red flag" isn't a need for all women, and my own psychological needs don't, and shouldn't, determine other people's rights. Moreover, I believe in a woman's right to an abortion--but I'm into the "safe, legal, and rare" ideal, and I do wonder if the absence of menstruation en masse might affect later-term abortion rates or the births of unwanted children.

Any thoughts?

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Sounds Like a Good Idea Actually
Posted by: Tim Worstall on Apr 25, 2007 8:07 AM   
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The claims from those who say that this pill would be "unnatural" seem to have their facts the wrong way around.
Modern women have far more periods than has historically been the case for the species. Early menarche, later menopause is one part of it, but for most of the 150,000 year life of the species women between those two dates would have been either pregnant or breast feeding and thus not having periods at all.
The more fertile of our foremothers might have had no more than 10 or 20 periods in their entire lives.

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» RE: Sounds Like a Good Idea Actually Posted by: Terry C - End Bush's War Now!
Well said!!
Posted by: ladyoracle on Apr 25, 2007 9:20 AM   
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"The social rejection of drugs such as Lybrel -- which the FDA has already turned down for approval once -- is based on the idea that there is something about women's bodies that women themselves should not be allowed to control."

I would take the no-period pill over the regular bc in a heartbeat!

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Look Who's in Charge
Posted by: BlueTigress on Apr 25, 2007 9:23 AM   
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This is just more of the punishing of women for the biblical downfall of man.

Although personally I've come to think that if men are so bleedin' (no pun intended) morally superior, why didn't Adam take the apple out of Eve's hand and throw it without taking the bite?

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» RE: Look Who's in Charge Posted by: yellow
Born too Soon
Posted by: Rochelle_Weber on Apr 25, 2007 11:13 AM   
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Safety is a major issue, but if it is safe, it should be readily available. With my medical history, I probably wouldn't have been able to take this pill. I threw a pulmonary embolism when I tried birth control pills back in the seventies and have been leary of such things ever since, opting to buy a fan for hot flashes rather than risk hormone replacement therapy. But, having endured seven days a month of heavy, painful, messy... My cramps were so bad that my boss actually wanted to send me to the ER one day when I doubled over at work, white as a sheet, because I'd missed a dose of ibuprofen. What I wouldn't have given to skip that! There were times (at least once a month) when I wished I'd had a hysterctomy instead of a tubal ligation.

Too bad the men who think they should be allowed to regulate women's bodies couldn't somehow be made to deal with at least one week's worth of the agony I endured every month for forty years. Menopause has been an absolute blessing for me. This pill should be available to all younger women--especially those who endure the kind of menstruation I did.

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aaaahhhh!!
Posted by: Arousiak on Apr 25, 2007 11:44 AM   
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what the hell is going on in this fucking country?? all these idiotic commercials on tv--"go to fewerperiods.com to learn more..." what are we teaching young girls? that being a woman is disgusting, to get rid of it, take a pill, turn it off. i have horrendous periods and always have, but over the years i learned to exercise, omit certain things from my diet leading up to my period, take calcium, dong quai, natural herbs, etc.. and try to go through it gracefully. My period has taught me alot about my body and how it works, what it requires at certain times. And who would i be without my mortifying period stories from adolescence?
so, what next? a pill to keep you from shitting, and farting, and peeing, and crying? i'd be TERRIFIED to raise a daughter in this country...

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» RE: aaaahhhh!! Posted by: Terry C - End Bush's War Now!
richenza
Posted by: richenza on Apr 25, 2007 1:03 PM   
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I'm a little worried about what the long-term effects of eliminating periods really are. Those long term studies aren't long-term enough for me. Really though, it's your body. As long as folks aren't going to cry about it later, then gamble as you like.

The reason I have concerns is that I took the (ordinary form) pill for about two years. I stopped because flooding my body with hormones did strange and unpleasant things to me. I don't know what that would have been like long-term, and decided I didn't care to find out. I use other forms of birth control instead. That said, if changing your hormones works for you or other women, then whatever - it's cool by me.

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A Cleaner Alternative
Posted by: kellygreen on Apr 25, 2007 2:16 PM   
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As a dude, my only stake in this debate is the desire to see fewer pads/tampons/etc trucked out to landfills every day. If a fraction of women decide to take this route it'll cut down on a lot of waste that can't be recyled (gross!).

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» RE: A Cleaner Alternative Posted by: maestra
Pill is most studied drug in FDA history
Posted by: emaa on Apr 25, 2007 3:05 PM   
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There are good reasons to test Lybrel, since nobody is completely sure what might happen in the long term to women who stop menstruating.

All Pill brands (21/7 brands, Seasonale, Seasonique, Lybrel) stop menstruation for the entire time you take the pill. Millions of women have been using the Pill since 1960. It is now 2007. That's 47 years of studies of what happens in the long term to women who stop menstruating. According to the FDA:

[O]ver the years, more studies have been done on the pill to look for serious side effects than have been done on any other medicine in history....

The difference between regular pills and extended (Seasonale, Seasonique)/continuous (Lybrel use ones is not the presence or absence of a monthly menstrual period. All pills are designed to eliminate periods for as long as a woman takes them. The difference is that Seasonale, Seasonique, and Lybrel, on top of eliminating the period, also mostly/altogether do away with the monthly withdrawal bleed.

The monthly menstrual period and the monthly withdrawal bleed are not one and the same thing. They are distinct, unrelated events.

The monthly period is the body-directed shedding of a thickened uterine lining, under the influence of fluctuating endogenous hormone levels, at set intervals (~21 days). The monthly withdrawal bleed is the user-directed artificial destabilization of a thin uterine lining, as a result of deliberately manipulating the dosage of exogenous hormones in the Pill, at arbitrarily set intervals (21 days, 49 days, 84 days, 168 days, or 336 days).

A monthly menstrual period has a [single] biological purpose: to prepare the uterine lining for pregnancy. A monthly withdrawal bleed has no physiological or biological purpose. It's a designer trick, intended mostly to appease politicians and Popes. It's a historical artifact, not a biological requirement.

The New York Times recently published a much-discussed article...

Pretty much everything in that article, including the tile and "expert" opinions, was wrong, wrong, wrong.

Until we can figure out WHY it is that women menstruate...

We've already figured this one out. Menstruation prepares the uterine lining for pregnancy. That's it. If you're not planning a pregnancy there's no biological reason to menstruate.

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It's the Products, Dummy
Posted by: StotheL on Apr 25, 2007 4:48 PM   
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Whatever - I choose not to hormonally regulate my cycle, but I'm all about letting other women make the call for themselves.

But for the life of me I cannot understand why an article like this one refers to disposable (bleached, uncomfortable) menstrual products as though they are the only option. Someone mentioned Lunapads - they and Gladrags and homemade cotton pads can be used for years and years. Sea sponges (check out jadeandpearl.com), Diva cup, and the Keeper are all reusable, environmentally friendly internal options.

This is the biggest problem, as I see it: many well educated, intelligent women don't even know that they can stop using the disposable crap and filling up landfills while saving money, just by choosing a more comfortable, less corporate medium to transfer their menstrual fluids from body to earth. Get with the program! Proctor and Gamble lied to you!

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» RE: It's the Products, Dummy Posted by: Terry C - End Bush's War Now!
What about PMDD
Posted by: HereticChick on Apr 26, 2007 2:54 AM   
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If it completely eliminates ovulation, then it would be perfect for me! I have PMDD and a chance to be off the SSRI's would be wonderful!

Think of the other applications for this medication. I'm not able to have children anymore, but it would help my symptoms until I reach menopause.

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Michelle
Posted by: mthompson6887 on Apr 26, 2007 8:51 AM   
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I have a problem with this for several reasons:

- missing a period is usually the first indicator of pregnancy. If abortion is supposed to be safer the sooner it happens, how will this help women? I am pro-life, but if abortion is going to be legal, I think we can all agree that it should happen earlier in the pregnancy rather than later;

- Ummm, all of our bodies, including men's, are controlled on an ongoing basis. The FDA currently controls what is approved for general public consumption with regard to food products and medications. All people are forbidden by law to consume various types of drugs without a prescription, if at all. It is the duty of the FDA to protect the public health.

- Someday, if the "no-period" approach proves to detrimental to a woman's health, whether reproductive or otherwise, women's groups will be the first to start screeching that the FDA "doesn't care about women's health" (catch-all, disengenuous complaint of choice of radical feminists)regarding abortion, contraception) because they failed to adequately study the long-term effects before approving this approach.

- Menstruation and pregnancy are NOT illnesses or malfunctions of biological systems. Erectile Dysfunction IS. Hence, the disparity that is frequently pointed out as a result of this "patriarchal society" when Viagra is covered by some health insurance companies, where birth control is not. Not only is pregnancy a normal process of a woman's body, it is a direct result of a voluntary activity that the woman CHOOSES to participate in.

This "my body" crap has got to stop. ALL of our bodies are controlled on a daily basis...by these little things called "laws".

Stop politicizing everything and making it about YOU. The Radical Feminist movement becomes more narcissistic by the minute.

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» RE: Michelle Posted by: Terry C - End Bush's War Now!
» RE: Michelle Posted by: yellow
Forget the Politics: No More Pills!
Posted by: Russ Wellen on Apr 26, 2007 12:20 PM   
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Ya gotta be nuts to take Viagra, ya gotta be nuts to take this pill. (I'm not too crazy about birth control pills, either.)

Stay away from the drug industry unless you're life depends on it.

The issue of women's control over their bodies comes in a distant second.

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» RE: Forget the Politics: No More Pills! Posted by: Terry C - End Bush's War Now!
Some thoughts
Posted by: Ephiny on Apr 26, 2007 1:44 PM   
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I can understand that some women might prefer not to do this, however I would like to address a few of the common objections: firstly this is not such a new and experimental thing as we might imagine. The hormones in Lybrel are exactly the same as those in many other brands of oral contraceptive, in fact at a rather lower dose than many.

Also, women have been using oral contraceptives 'off-label' to reduce or eliminate menstrual bleeding for about as long as the pill has existed. In fact this was the original purpose of the Pill. This is not new or unstudied.

I agree that menstruation is not an illness, but a perfectly normal healthy part of being female. However in some women it causes debilitating pain, excessive bleeding and other symptoms, and oral contraceptives are a reasonable choice to manage the problems. No it is not risk-free, however other alternatives such as long-term painkiller use are not entirely safe either, and a woman and her doctor may decide after risk-benefit analysis that this is the best choice for her. I don't see any problem with that.

Finally, having a period (or withdrawal bleed on a conventional pill regimen) is not a reliable indicator of whether one is pregnant or not! If you think you might be pregnant, take a real pregnancy test.

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I can only think of one unsafe application...
Posted by: UnionMaid1377 on Apr 27, 2007 8:34 AM   
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if a woman has iron overload or hereditary hemochromatosis. It's the #1 undiagnosed genetic disease in the US.

I know because I have it and my thyroid, pancreas and liver is being whacked because of it. Fortunately, regular phlebotomies can keep the excess iron in check...something regular menstrual periods used to accomplish before menopause.

and it affects men earlier than women because men don't bleed every month. It can have cardiac implication.

there is much documentation available on the 'net.

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Freedom comes with responsibility
Posted by: Glasser on Apr 28, 2007 1:37 AM   
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Freedom is earned. We all have a right ...to EARN freedom. When a woman chooses to become pregnant, she is not only responsible for her own life, but also the life of a, completely dependent upon her, human being with RIGHTS the woman has chosen to take responsibility for by CHOOSING to create a life by becoming pregnant (except in the statistically insignificant cases of rape pregnancies). The woman has to accept ALL the responsibilities of caring for HER baby, along with support from the father, of course.

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» RE: Freedom comes with responsibility Posted by: Terry C - End Bush's War Now!
I have a caution to offer:
Posted by: Ian MacLeod on Apr 29, 2007 10:40 AM   
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The demagogues in charge of the FDA nowadays could care less about patients and customers, so they tend to gloss over little problems with research fo safety. Their priority is Big Bussiness and their profits. Be very careful and DON'T trust the government.

Ian

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What's odd here is...
Posted by: dearOread on May 16, 2007 9:56 AM   
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No one's brought up the fact that this hormone b.s. leaks into the water supply, with no current water treatment to remove it. So ladies, when you tinkle, you're dosing up local aquatic life with your drugs. Very animal-friendly, non?
I'd also direct you to:
http://alternet.org/environment/46213
http://alternet.org/environment/43242/
just for starters. Really interesting when you look at these.

Honestly, as a libertarian, I could give a rip what you want to do to your bod. Have at. But when what you do affects others and their right to grow up unfettered by toxins, well... I'd have to say it makes you look a bit whiny to bitch about the inconvenience of a period.
I can't say I mind mine - and Terry C, I find plenty of time between my aerospace engineering gig, university, family/toddler & social obligations to rinse out my damn enviro-friendly sanitary pads, no big. Perhaps....Get a grip. Perhaps read Inga Musico and get over your bodily functions hangups until there's a way to regulate your flow without disrupting those of other living things'.

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