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Stand Up Against the "Surge"

By Molly Ivins, AlterNet. Posted January 12, 2007.


We are the people who run this country. We are the deciders and we need to raise hell.
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The purpose of this old-fashioned newspaper crusade to stop the war is not to make George W. Bush look like the dumbest president ever. People have done dumber things. What were they thinking when they bought into the Bay of Pigs fiasco? How dumb was the Egypt-Suez war? How massively stupid was the entire war in Vietnam? Even at that, the challenge with this misbegotten adventure is that we simply cannot let it continue.

It is not a matter of whether we will lose or we are losing. We have lost. Gen. John P. Abizaid, until recently the senior commander in the Middle East, insists that the answer to our problems there is not military. "You have to internationalize the problem. You have to attack it diplomatically, geo-strategically," he said.

His assessment is supported by Gen. George W. Casey Jr., the senior American commander in Iraq, and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who only recommend releasing forces with a clear definition of the goals for the additional troops.

Bush's call for a "surge" or "escalation" also goes against the Iraq Study Group. Talk is that the White House has planned to do anything but what the group suggested after months of investigation and proposals based on much broader strategic implications.

About the only politician out there besides Bush actively calling for a surge is Sen. John McCain. In a recent opinion piece, he wrote: "The presence of additional coalition forces would allow the Iraqi government to do what it cannot accomplish today on its own -- impose its rule throughout the country. ... By surging troops and bringing security to Baghdad and other areas, we will give the Iraqis the best possible chance to succeed." But with all due respect to the senator from Arizona, that ship has long since sailed.

A surge is not acceptable to the people in this country -- we have voted overwhelmingly against this war in polls (about 80 percent of the public is against escalation, and a recent Military Times poll shows only 38 percent of active military want more troops sent) and at the polls. We know this is wrong. The people understand, the people have the right to make this decision, and the people have the obligation to make sure our will is implemented.

Congress must work for the people in the resolution of this fiasco. Ted Kennedy's proposal to control the money and tighten oversight is a welcome first step. And if Republicans want to continue to rubber-stamp this administration's idiotic "plans" and go against the will of the people, they should be thrown out as soon as possible, to join their recent colleagues.

Anyone who wants to talk knowledgably about our Iraq misadventure should pick up Rajiv Chandrasekaran's "Imperial Life in the Emerald City: Inside Iraq's Green Zone." It's like reading a horror novel. You just want to put your face down and moan: How could we have let this happen? How could we have been so stupid?

As The Washington Post's review notes, Chandrasekaran's book "methodically documents the baffling ineptitude that dominated U.S. attempts to influence Iraq's fiendish politics, rebuild the electrical grid, privatize the economy, run the oil industry, recruit expert staff or instill a modicum of normalcy to the lives of Iraqis."

We are the people who run this country. We are the deciders. And every single day, every single one of us needs to step outside and take some action to help stop this war. Raise hell. Think of something to make the ridiculous look ridiculous. Make our troops know we're for them and trying to get them out of there. Hit the streets to protest Bush's proposed surge. If you can, go to the peace march in Washington on Jan. 27. We need people in the streets, banging pots and pans and demanding, "Stop it, now!"

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Posted by: fanny666 on Jan 12, 2007 3:19 PM   
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LINK

They're already planning on using the tired rightwing line about VietNam: "We'da won if the bureaucrats in Washington hadn't forced our military to fight with one hand tied behind their back."

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» RE: Cynical will it ever end? Posted by: sasquuatch55
I marched at the beginning... and I am already against the next war... but you are right Molly,
Posted by: greentime on Jan 12, 2007 4:01 PM   
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it isn't enough!!!

I drive around with a peace sign on my car. I have a peace flag hanging outside my house. I will never stop standing up for peace and I can tell you for certain that this beautiful planet and it's inhabitants can't handle more war.

But it isn't enough. People aren't getting it, they are still shopping. Good thing they are buying big flat screen TVs. Maybe seeing their fellow citizens being killed in high digital definition will help wake them up. But I dunno... they like those video digital war games and buy the latest and greatest destructo versions. The more realistic the better.

So, I am going to make some signs and put them up, and march more. I will write more letters and get more active. I will bang some pots and make more noise!! I will sign petitions for impeachment. Why it hasn't happened yet is be-y-o-n-n-d me!!!

But tell me, what will it take to get the Democrats we just voted in to make more noise? I can't hear them, can you?

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» RE: Why the kids enlisted Posted by: Edward George
» RE: Enlist in WHAT? Posted by: Edward George
Suggestion for Prez Bush
Posted by: mizipi on Jan 12, 2007 8:14 PM   
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Since our military is stretched thin and we are running huge federal deficits to finance the War in Iraq, I propose the following:
Since it is legal to enslave a convicted criminal in the US, let's empty our jails and prisons by enslaving these people and sending them to fight in Iraq. It's mostly rednecks and black men, anyway. No need to provide salary, protective gear, decent food or medical care. Those that are wounded can fend for themselves. It may not be a Christian thing to do, but then again, killing innocent women and children in Iraq and causing a civil war due to our inability to restore the order that Saddam had installed, well, that ain't too Christian either. Also, we can arrest the 10-12 million illiegal immigrants in our country, and send them over there.

Though I oppose all war and I am against slavery, these are legal things that our nation can do.

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» Maybe I do to... Posted by: DinTN
» RE: Maybe I do to... Posted by: Gisele
» I apologize Posted by: brotherjonah
» AND, WELCOME IMMIGRANTS! Posted by: mizipi
» Dear Mr. Mississippi... Posted by: ~Fiona~
» RE: Dear Mr. Mississippi... Posted by: mizipi
» RE: - YOU enlist, That way.... Posted by: brotherjonah
Sanityseeker
Posted by: kencohen on Jan 13, 2007 3:54 AM   
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The veil is off Mr. Bush's psychopathology. His defiance despite the magnitude of objection to his policies underscores his megalomanic belief that history will prove that he was correct and his courage to "stay the course" despite the collective disaproval of his country men and women will demonstrate his true greatness.
The Iraq invasion was conceived as a neoconservative strategy to reshape middle east politics and the obvious manipulation of intelligence to rationalize the need for immediate action was treasionous to all we, as a people, stand for. Well, Mr. Bush and his neoconservative colleagues are on the road to successfully reshape the middle east into escalating tribal, ethnic and religious termoil and chaos.
It is now as his policies and legacies are under seige as the time of his tenure closes the window of opportunity that Mr. Bush could be the most dangerous driven to more desperate reactions to prove his point. We must counter his delusional beliefs with our continuous collevtive disapproval and contain his megalomanic insanity.

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"New way forward"
Posted by: Slmncty on Jan 13, 2007 4:26 AM   
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Liberal Lion vs NeoCon Lyon. Remaining question is how long will republicans remain in the minority and to what extent. "stay the course" and it could be another 40 years at 25%. 08 will be interesting.

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» RE: "New way forward" Posted by: kencohen
Give him enough rope...(pun intended)
Posted by: smccaw on Jan 13, 2007 4:33 AM   
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I expect the Democrats to continue to raise hell, but not to take any direct action to stop the war. If they are smart, they will let Bush do what he wants, short of invading Iran or Syria, and ensure that his fingerprints, and only his, are all over this thing. Rove and company are itching to spread the blame around. If he tries to expand this war, that will be a different thing; I expect his own party would then haul his ass out of office without any help from us.

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Running the country?
Posted by: John Annis on Jan 13, 2007 4:40 AM   
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It's been quite a while since people in so-called democracies could be accused of running their countries. I especially like 'we elected them, they work for us'.

In the UK we had the biggest public demonstrations ever before the invasion, and a large percentage has been anti ever since. Hasn't made a damn bit of difference to anything, because we, like you, have a spineless 'opposition' party.

The US has come, for the most part, late to the fray but you're having the same experience. Last November you voted out some of the slime that slithers around the Capitol, so Unca George just takes a different route. No problemo, as the Terminator would say.

You can stand up and yell until you're blue in the face, but they will do what they want to do.

There's only one set of people that runs governments these days, and it's not the electors.

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» RE: unning the country? Posted by: Gisele
January 27, 28, 29 in DC
Posted by: wawa on Jan 13, 2007 5:37 AM   
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Hoping to meet many of you in the streets of DC on the
We the People for Peace and Justice March on Washington

http://unitedforpeace.org/

The following petition will be delivered to Congress on January 29, 2007 by members of Florida Palestinian Solidarity Network:


We, The People For Peace and Justice, the undersigned, request that our elected Congressional Representatives make all efforts to accomplish the following in 2007.

To end the war in Iraq and make all efforts,economic and humanitarian, to assist the Iraqi people in rebuilding their country.

To once again be the world leader for peace and the spread of democracy by peaceful means.


To be honest brokers for peace in the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict,to assist in lifting the international sanctions against the Palestinian people and begin humanitarian aid to all the suffering parties in Israel and Palestine.


To work with the United Nations and the international community to find peaceful solutions to conflicts,with the use of strong economic sanctions, pressure all non compliant countries to open their nuclear programs to the International Atomic Energy Agency for full unobstructed inspection.

Sign the petition

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/flpalsolidarity/




thanks for doing something,
e
http://www.wearewideawake.org

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A Day on Not Off
Posted by: jefhadist on Jan 13, 2007 5:50 AM   
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We can all start by renewing and restoring the dream and taking a day on ...not a day off ... for Martin Luther King Day. Find a little something around your neighborhood that needs doing, get a few friends together and do it. Pay it forward. And work these kinds of unselfish, unsolicitied and unnoticed actions into your daily life. You don't need credit. Help build the "beloved community" right where you live with everyone you meet, when you can. It feels good. The moral arc of the universe really does move towards justice. ...and friendship, forgiveness, equality and everything else that real love entails. You can keep your eyes on the prize and still be hopeful for the future because it's happening all over the world. Good things... that are real... and are adding up to a better world for everyone, everywhere. Thanks to you.

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Being Commander In Chief Doesn't Constitute a Blank Check
Posted by: michaeltwatson on Jan 13, 2007 6:17 AM   
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General Douglass MacAuther, one of the best military minds ever, and General Patton, another of the finest military commanders this country has ever seen, both were called to task, demoted, and eventually removed from power because of their excesses and their failure to abide by the will of the populace whom they were appointed to serve. There is no reason why GWB, nowhere near the leader or intellectual of either of these two patriots, should have a free hand to reak havok on our world status. We should not have to squander the credibility that we have garnered from over two hundred years of being the world's leader, all because of the paranoid and insecure emotions of a man with less intellect than most of the soldiers that have died at his hand. Our democracy can not propel a man to this type of power just by virtue of his role as "Commander In Chief." Michael Townes Watson, author of America's Tunnel Vision--How Insurance Companies Propaganda Is Corrupting Medicine and Law.. www.AmericasTunnelVision.com.

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» Patton - let's get it right. Posted by: zipper696
All Is Quiet On The Eastern Front
Posted by: hole11 on Jan 13, 2007 7:35 AM   
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The phone rang. European operator looking for the president.

"Who is calling?" he says.

"Person to person from the EU President."

"Alright, I will accept the charges." he says.

"Mr. President we need you to increase troops in Europe because our economy is tanking," the EU President says.

"Well, I don't know if the democrats would approve of it, we are already over streached with military spending and I am trying to get Star Wars approved again," the US President says.

"Sir, there is no need for SDI, we have high unemployment and we don't want a large military to increase OUR taxes, we will even buy out your failing auto and utility industry if you can send more troops," the EU president continued.

"But Iraq..."

Sir, I must apologize for the interuption but your Iraq plan disrupted our economy in the first place, we need assistance now.

"Alright, I will see what the socialists here have to say, maybe we can divert the troops in Iraq back to Europe," the US president says reluctantly.

"Thank You, Mr. President, we will do whatever we can to get you re-elected," the EU president promised.

Good-bye.

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» Hole in the head Posted by: zipper696
What We Are REALLY Up Against
Posted by: TarryFaster on Jan 13, 2007 8:11 AM   
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To understand the full depth of what we are dealing with,
click here.

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» RE:some of it like Mein Kampf Posted by: brotherjonah
wacoguy
Posted by: wacoguy on Jan 13, 2007 9:20 AM   
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FIRST: GLAD TO HAVE YOU BACK, MOLLY!! IT'S S0 NICE TO HAVE YOU BACK WHERE YOU BELONG!!! GOOD ON YA, GAL, TODAY AND FOREVER!

Second: The pathology at work here has been evident since the 2000 election: the proclivity to proceed as if the annointment by the Supreme Court was the same as a landslide popular election has never wavered. How that didn't register (at the time) on the average American citizen/voter can--to me--only be explained by the fact that we have been subjected to an intense propaganda deluge by private parties (immoral, but legal) and by our own government (I think illegal, at least presumptively.) And, the man has within the last few months re-iterated to us his ultimate modus operandi (totally consistent): he has said that he plans to leave this for the next President to deal with. What a slap in the face of the voters, and what a horrible sentence to put on our soldiers in harm's way. But, I guess you can expect that kind of behavior and mindset from a cabal of cowards who avoided service and being personally placed in harm's way during the Viet Nam, and have never been held accountable for their actions.

Ultimately, politics is simple: politicians will, most of the time, and unless they have the gift of statesmanship (and few do), will do or effect that which will get them elected again next time, or, will not do, or will prevent from happening, that which would get them defeated in the next election.

Although the average voter in the US must recognize that most congressional districts have been gerry-mandered to permit re-election of incumbents by non-thinking voters, the average voter needs to do two or three things: (1) write the congressperson in the District in which they can cast a vote and advise them that, regardless of their party, if they do not immediately and meaningfully oppose continued madness and acts on the part of the CEO, then, (2) the writer will vote for an opponent in the next election. Then, if nothing happens, the voter needs to do the most important thing: (3) cast a vote in the next election for someone else.

Nothing else is likely to "work".

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We had a position available
Posted by: Jammer2 on Jan 13, 2007 9:38 AM   
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When I attended the University of Texas in the 60's, I was taught that our government operated as a basic business model. We have positions open that must be filled, and we fill those positions with the most qualified candidates that apply for the job. Most of time, we choose correctly or at least adequately. Sometimes we make glaring errors in judgement that cost us dearly, and we find that we must remove that individual from the company... ie. You're FIRED!

America has made a monumental error in hiring George Bush as the President of these United States. We have allowed him to operate without accountabilty or oversight for over 6 years now. He has destroyed much of the idealism that this country stood for, and most of which will never be regained. Our American history currently being written has been forever changed by this incompetent department head and his subordinates into one that will not be the shining beacon of hope to the world. We have joined the ranks of the world's bullies and that is unacceptable to most of the citizens here.

How do we stop this landslide into becoming the worst of the bad guys on the planet? Get out the PINK SLIPS and begin the impeachment proceedings now! Give them the message in one unified voice: YOU'RE FIRED!

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Molly! I love you girl! now help me put this message out..
Posted by: brotherjonah on Jan 13, 2007 3:18 PM   
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An open letter to Bill O' Really and yes I deliberately spelled it that way and I have Irish relatives and they say the same thing...
And to Rush LimpDog and the other self anointed spokes freaks for the Right Wing Lunatic fringe...

You are the only people in the whole country that Mr Bush actually listens to, so get this message to him...

The elections were NOT a suggestion or even a mandate to have more bi-partisan input and constructive dialogue to help you win the war in Iraq.
The elections WERE a mandate from The American People to stop your madness. No more excuses, Mr Bush, O'Really and company. No more fudging. You have been ordered to give up your powers and get out. You are being EVICTED from your seat of power. You have had 2 months since receiving the notice. There was plenty of time to pack your stuff and clean the place for the new tenants. The Sheriff is at the door, quit stalling and GET THE (word of choice) OUT!


Ms, Molly, since you are high profile enough to draw the attention of these freaks, would y'all care to deliver this message to them?
Loved your "we've been Bushwhacked "book, by the way, it is right behind me on the shelf.
I used to live in Texas. But I'm in recovery now. Used to be in a state of denial but now the state of Colorado. Used to buy the Star-Hell-agram and the Dullest Mourning Gnus just to read your columns.
Ok the last bit was a lie, I would pick them up at the bus stop, when somebody else got done reading them. Didn't actually buy them

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After all, we are a democracy!
Posted by: macktan on Jan 13, 2007 4:15 PM   
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Molly I. hits the nail again. Anyone who hasn't at least contacted elected representatives to let them know yeah or nay about this war since Bush's announcement on Wednesday, is not exercising one's civic privileges. These people work for us, their jobs are dependent on our votes. In order to preserve--no, to strengthen--our democracy, its muscle must be worked.

We don't have to wait for referendums or voting booths to make our views known.

Regarding literature about Iraq management--it is shocking. Bush is an empty vessel, a poor leader. Look at Katrina mess, when all he had to do was appoint an oversight czar. Now he's dodging investigations into that pithole of fraud and corruption.

I'm surprised there has not been talk of a coup d'etat. Congressional intervention via the purse would be pretty close.

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Bush's War
Posted by: Jeanne on Jan 13, 2007 6:05 PM   
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Please, can we all begin to refer to the debacle in Iraq as "Bush's War?" Maybe the media would pick it up, too. Maybe if those who promoted it, funded it, lied us into it know that it's got his name (and theirs by association) all over it, they'd be more willing to disavow it.

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» RE: Bush's War Posted by: fogpatch
Bring them Home
Posted by: ccluelessfl60 on Jan 13, 2007 6:25 PM   
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The die was cast even before George knew it.The plan to destabilize the middle east and steal the oil was always the goal. George was drunk and high in the gutters of New Orleans when this plan was hatched. The Kissinger Plan is almost complete. Eternal war in the oil producing countries so the robber barons can get away clean. They picked the prefect willing patsy. 3 years from now who will care what happens to George. His future is as solid as it has ever been. Retirement on the ranch and a bottle of Jack Daniels. I want to charge the whole gang with TREASON. The Manchurian Candidate installed with ballots not bullets. The neocon coup of 2000. I am beginning to understand the French Revolution. The neocons have done more to destroy the US and it laws than any foreign invader ever could or would. Troops die with innocents while we waste time debating the issue.Bring the troops home now. Let's debate the issues later. Tomorrow will be too late for too many.

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McCain
Posted by: CountessKarma on Jan 14, 2007 6:13 AM   
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John McCain is an asshole, who clearly has just realized how Bush "won" (twice!) - by casting aside the majority of the country (and world), and going for the diehard Right. These are the true jahidists: the religious right's zealots who want all fags, freaks, and feminists to make it to the endangered species lists. He just wants Bush's supporters to support him - hell no, not again.

In many ways, I think he may be worse than George Bush and his father - he should know better.

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» RE: McCain Posted by: makeadifference
Good to have you back
Posted by: BeeMan on Jan 14, 2007 8:53 AM   
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Molly,

It's great to have you back writing again. You know the Bushies and their sad, sad history. "All moral authority comes from suffering!" They have no suffering, so they have no authority! Just an attempt at power to make others suffer!

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MOLLY IF YOU WERE REALLY SERIOUS YOU WOULD...
Posted by: poppop_schell on Jan 14, 2007 10:06 AM   
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To Molly :

I deeply appreciate what Sen Kennedy is trying to do. FYI, I rarely agree with Kennedy and would have voted against him when Romney challenged his Senate seat.

BUT, the Senate doesn't authorize spending bills. That originates in the House. Molly, IF you were really serious, you would do ALL in your jounalistic power to promote the ideas documented this past week by Congresman Kucinich who is also running for President. ALL else will simply be seen by me as pure rhteoric: makes you feel good that you're appearing to do something but doesn't really stop the escalation.

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What part of "oil" do we not understand?
Posted by: monkeywrench on Jan 14, 2007 10:46 AM   
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From the article:
"Chandrasekaran's book 'methodically documents the baffling ineptitude that dominated U.S. attempts to influence Iraq's fiendish politics, rebuild the electrical grid, privatize the economy, run the oil industry, recruit expert staff or instill a modicum of normalcy to the lives of Iraqis.' "

That "baffling ineptitude" is not all that baffling. It arose because the Bush administration did not and does not care one damn bit about the Iraqi people. It cared only about what Hussein's machinations were doing to the price of oil worldwide and how that affected the fortunes of America's REAL foreign policy leaders, the Saudi Royal Family. Now that Hussein's gone, it cares ONLY about what lies under Iraq's soil: in the short run, keeping it off of the market to prop up oil prices, and in the long run, to keep just enough infrastructure in Iraq to get that oil to market when worldwide demand outstrips supply. Everything else concerning Iraq, including the fortunes of its people, is in a very, very distant last place.

(If anyone reading this comment hasn't done so already, reading Greg Palast's take on this subject is very enlightening.)

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The Next Step
Posted by: Gaubladt on Jan 14, 2007 11:42 AM   
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"Ted Kennedy's proposal to control the money and tighten oversight is a welcome first step.”
The next step is to draft legislation to make it impossible for the administration to redeploy troops or reservists who have already been to Iraq! The third step is to disarm the republican guard: Blackwater and all private contractors. The forth step is to bring up Bushes big white lie; the unspoken secret (Something that is so peculiarly Southern); the fact is that the Sunni insurgency which is killing so many of our countrymen is being funded by the Saudi Royal Family. So, people need to ask Bush and the Republicans why they aren't trying to incite a war with Saudi Arabia instead of Iran or Syria.

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The pain is hidden in the text.
Posted by: diogenes on Jan 14, 2007 12:56 PM   
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Long time readers of Molly Ivins have probably noticed that there's not an ounce of irony or derision in her latest columns after a long absence, and so when when she urges us to take some sort of action to express our outrage I think we should.
It may be the only way to pay homage to the best political writer of our times.

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Who Pays?
Posted by: BadgerSouth on Jan 14, 2007 6:44 PM   
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The time has come for the Bush-Cheney Administration to level with the American people about how much their ill-conceived and ill-executed “War on Terror” has cost the national treasury, how those costs have been paid for, and how future costs will be paid for. I hereby challenge those who staunchly and steadfastly support Bush's Folly to answer one simple question: Would you support the imposition of a surcharge on corporate and personal income taxes to pay for the “War on Terror” ?

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MY FINAL WORDS ON THIS
Posted by: mizipi on Jan 14, 2007 9:34 PM   
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I am glad that so many have read my original post, yet sad that some seem to not have read my follow-ups. My SUGGESTION was to get people to realize that one of the reasons we are filling our prisons with nonviolent people is so that when no one is willing to freely enlist into the military and fight for stupid causes, and the draft would have to take a lot of middle and upper class kids, then our good ol' Uncle Sam will send the prisoners to do the fighting. Why do y'all think there are few rehab programs in the prisons? And, if a rehab program works, it is kicked-out, because the people profitting from building prisons need to have high rates of recidivism. I believe in FREEDOM! I think all borders should be open, the way the world was before the Europeans started the system we now live under, world over. After Katrina, I was the only person I met who was willing to go to the Mexicans and help, because they feared asking for help. Forgive me if y'all misunderstand my SARCASM. Let's all get together, smoke a doob or five, down a glass of wine, discuss the Sermon on the Mount and try to make the world a place where DO UNTO OTHERS is an international mantra.

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» RE: MY FINAL WORDS ON THIS Posted by: kelly.nickell
» RE: MY FINAL WORDS ON THIS Posted by: mizipi
Amen misssissippi.
Posted by: brotherjonah on Jan 14, 2007 10:37 PM   
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That word kicks my butt when I am surfing a caffeine buzz, the painkillers are kicking in and I have been awake far too long.
Kind of like bananananana you have difficulty stopping it.

Herr Bush and Vice Idiot have both stated they have the ultimate power, to make war, to continue making war, they don't give three quarters of a fat rat's ass about the Congress, the Courts or the American people. Cheney said in an interview Saturday that the course they are on, the war in other words, will probably continue for 3 or 4 not months or years but DECADES.

There are a couple of Yiddish words which apply, Chutzpah and Meshuginnah. They are arrogantly proud of being eat up with the dumb ass. Cheney also said there was nothing illegal in spying on Americans, that the only ones being monitored were terrorism suspects.

I wonder if we are going to have a world in a few hours?

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choice
Posted by: ImSwiss on Jan 15, 2007 11:46 AM   
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If the Dems stop Bush he will blame them for preventing him from doing what it takes to win. If the Dems don't many will blame them for not standing up to Bush. This is the choice. Although flase in my opinion.
I would prefer the latter.

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RE: The Urge to Merge
Posted by: LeftCoastProgressive on Jan 15, 2007 1:23 PM   
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Aahh...yes. Been thinking about your 94 year-old mother and her second request. This is known throughout the US as the .223 Solution. When all yelling, posturing, screaming, marching, and blathering about a horrible thug and the injustice he is imposing on us accomplishes nothing, one should think about the .223 Solution. The finality and instantaneous justice the solution brings can bring such relief to an aching nation. Hope your mother's wish can be fulfilled. Keep asking.

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Protests on January 27
Posted by: boing007 on Jan 16, 2007 4:47 AM   
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Don't just bring pots and pans to Washington, D.C., bring lots of duck calls too.

And let us hope and pray that VP Cheney will be away on another hunting trip, otherwise some of you might suffer collateral damage.

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rickdog
Posted by: rickdog on Jan 16, 2007 12:07 PM   
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We, The People, must create a new Amendment to the Constitution that clearly defines the limits of the Executive Office. We need to prevent this from ever happening again.

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I hear ya, Molly! Glad you're back...
Posted by: MTguy on Jan 18, 2007 9:54 AM   
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It's been awhile since you've written anything, Molly. I hope your absence wasn't caused by anything too serious.

This war has gotten to the point of being ridiculous on any point you care to examine. Ask yourself just how much you'd be willing to bet that the Surge is going to work...

I wouldn't bet so much as a plug nickel. The troop level after the Surge would be about half of what the Joint Chiefs recommended immediately after Shock and Awe concluded. Check me on this but weren't things in Iraq A LOT more stable then as opposed to now?

If that doesn't work for you, how about a trip to Baghdad six months from now, but you don't get to stay in the Green Zone. No, you get to stay out among our now pacified, peaceful Iraqi brethren who have by this time laid down their IEDs and picked up flowers to put in the end of your camera lens.

No member of Congress who's flown over there to take a look at the situation first hand comes back and recommends an increase in the troop levels there. What does that tell you?

Our president doesn't see reason. Not just on Iraq, anything. So appealing to his sense of reason won't work. We'll have to cut him off at the purse strings at the risk of being branded a traitor for "not supporting the troops." To me, it seems like "not supporting the troops" would be leaving them there to founder around such as they are doing today.

Commander in Chief... what a joke.

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STAND UP AND SAY NO--BUT MAKE IT STICK
Posted by: G.Achin on Jan 18, 2007 2:22 PM   
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I just started a little page yesterday, so its just beginning....
It is an attempt to get a campaign going to push harder and more effectively upon legislators to
STOP THIS MADNESS, NOW!!!!
http://www.zianet.com/XLexcel/OHBOY!.html

--Spent too much time enthralled with reading today and didn't get back to adding more yet since starting it yesterday.
I would gladly welcome contributions to this effort, both in more good, strong, DO IT "sample letters", expressing STRONGLY and w/NO DOUBT ABOUT IT!!!, expressing outrage too, but without getting too outrageous.........
I must yet post more articles, both for "FYI", and also to help set a good mood of "angst" for writing an effective letter.

The page has no bells and whistles, but you can send stuff to me from the mailbox at the bottom of the mooncharts page. There is a link to the mooncharts page at the top of the OHBOY! page. The spam software collects spam for me to review without actually opening it, so, if it spams you and you're not spamming me, I'll find you in there.

Please send the link for this page to all who might possibly be prompted from there to participate by writing such a letter!

I believe this could be more effective than the usual "action" petitions and letters because it will be much more individualized and also, hopefully, much more expressive and DEMANDING for legislators to TAKE REAL EFFECTIVE ACTION, NOW!!

Hope to "see" you there!
(-:G

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Good Bye Molly
Posted by: alternetrose on Jan 31, 2007 8:00 PM   
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We are sure going to miss you!

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Goodbye Molly
Posted by: Rathan47 on Feb 1, 2007 9:36 AM   
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You were a treasure and a blessing. Thank you for sharing so much of yourself with us and helping us to open our eyes and hearts a little wider.

You will be sorely missed, and greatly remembered.

Molly Ivins Passes Away

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thank you
Posted by: ShoShenQ on Feb 1, 2007 8:26 PM   
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Thank you for all the wonderful articles I had the pleasure to read, I hope you found peace at last.

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Will Miss Your Wit & Wisdom!
Posted by: Linda on Feb 2, 2007 2:28 AM   
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I suppose I shouldn't have been surprised by the silence in the Media about Molly Ivin's passing, but guess I should've expected it. These media "lapdogs" don't want to remind viewers about those true Patriots who warned us about what Whirlwinds a Bush Presidency might Reap for our country.

Godspeed your journey, Molly!

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» RE: Will Miss Your Wit & Wisdom! Posted by: olderworker
Goodbye Molly
Posted by: Unbowed on Feb 2, 2007 8:49 AM   
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When the Legislature is set to convene, she warned her readers, “every village is about to lose its idiot.”
Molly Ivins

"Molly was a hero. She was a mentor. She was a liberal. She was a patriot," the Observer wrote in an editorial announcing her death.

She also was a towering presence at 6 feet tall and had thick red hair before chemotherapy claimed almost all of it during her recurring bouts with breast cancer. She was diagnosed with active forms of the disease at least three times.

Like many journalists of the 1960s, Ivins earned a reputation as something of a partyer, and, until her health declined, she hosted at her Austin home monthly gatherings of writers and rabble-rousers.

"She always had a rambunctious bunch of mavericks and mutts, journalists and old-time liberals," recalled her friend Jim Hightower, a former Democratic agriculture commissioner and now a radio host and lecturer. "They'd be old people tottering around in their 80s and kiddies. Molly was there with the best of 'em."



In the mid 1970s, she was hired by the New York Times but got fired six years later because A.M. Rosenthal, then the top editor, didn't feel she showed "due respect and reverence to the great dignity" of that newspaper, Ivins recalled in a 2006 interview.


Recently, she focused on the "soufflé of mediocrity" that she said characterized American journalism, brought on by greedy corporate owners of media outlets. Republicans, President Bush and the Iraq war were her favorite targets, though.
In her last column, in mid-January, she said she was starting a newspaper crusade to stop the war. "Raise hell," she urged readers. "Think of something ridiculous to make the ridiculous look ridiculous. ... We need people in the streets, banging pots and pans and demanding, 'Stop it, now!' "

By the end of her life, Ivins' columns were being carried in about 300 newspapers across the country. She wrote six books, four of which became best-sellers. They included Shrub: The Short But Happy Political Life of George W. Bush; Bushwhacked: Life in George W. Bush's America, which she wrote with Lou Dubose; and Who Let the Dogs In?: Incredible Political Animals I Have Known.



This brilliant womans commentary Will be sorely missed by this reader, and I know, having spent considerable time here in the comments section, that this is a place Molly will be missed intensely. Many here loved her.

A National day of mourning would be apropos in my opinion.


Rest in Peace Molly.

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How Long?
Posted by: Unbowed on Feb 6, 2007 7:10 PM   
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Its called "How Long" by the great Kenny White. Enjoy. http://www.myspace.com/kennywhitemusic
I celebrate your life Molly. So I heard this song and It made me smile and think of you. Our Champion and friend. One of a kind. Molly.
I think it would have made Molly smile. I hope it makes the rest of you smile too. She would have liked that.

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Gary