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How to Fix Our Health Care Mess

By Jim Hightower, Hightower Lowdown. Posted June 20, 2006.


Bush's prescription-drug program is a boondoggle for America's fraud-ridden health-industrial complex. A better choice is available, and it's time to fight for it.
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How messed up is America's health care system? Consider the case of the Leavitts. Anne and her husband Dixie, both in their 70s, got frazzled trying to work their way through the maddening maze of George W's new prescription drug program, which compels seniors to choose among 1,400 competing drug-insurance schemes offered by 80 corporations. Each plan in this baffling "marketplace" offers different coverage, is frustratingly complex and is filled with fine print. The Leavitts had to call on their son to help them select a company to cover their meds.

But -- oops! -- even with hands-on help, Anne and Dixie made a bad choice that almost cost them their entire medical coverage. They rushed to drop that plan and were lucky to find another at the last minute to avert a family disaster.

What makes the Leavitts' story unique among the millions of seniors who've been similarly discombobulated by Bush's convoluted prescription plan (including 15 million who've been left with no drug coverage) is that their helpful son is none other than Mike Leavitt. Yes, the head honcho of Bush's Health and Human Services Department! One more twist: Dixie Leavitt made his fortune in the insurance business.

If someone who's an insurance professional and is personally advised by the government's top health official still gets flummoxed -- that's a clue that the Powers That Be have saddled us with a truly lousy program.

The health-industrial complex

There's no legitimate excuse for this mess. A program to provide medicines for every single senior could and should be simpler and far less expensive than Bush's $1.2 trillion scam. Medicare, with its extremely low overhead and an efficient payment system already in place, is the logical conduit for such a program. It could negotiate with drug makers on behalf of every senior to get low prices on all medicines, then pay pharmacists directly for the total cost of prescriptions they fill.

Instead, Bush and Congress put the new drug benefit in the hands of the corporate bureaucracies that separate us patients from our medical professionals. All seniors are on their own to purchase one of the confusing myriad of drug cards from HMOs and insurance companies. These middlemen then bill Medicare for whatever medications the seniors get and put no lid on the prices of the drugs.

Thus, rather than being a straightforward benefit for people in need, Bush's program has become a boondoggle benefit for America's bureaucratic, wasteful, fraud-ridden health-industrial complex. Such giants as UnitedHealth, Humana, and WellPoint (which have already scarfed up more than half of the new drug program's market) are given both a new source of monthly premiums and a generous federal subsidy to provide prescription coverage.

Not to be left out of the financial fun, the drug barons have obtained a green light to bloat their profits (already the highest of any industry) with overpriced pills that ultimately are paid for by Medicare dollars taken out of all of our paychecks. WARNING: The following fact could make your eyeballs explode: Bush demanded and got a provision in his new program that specifically prohibits Medicare officials from negotiating with drug corporations to lower the prices they charge. If only this were a bad horror movie! Alas, it's the core reality of America's sick health care system. Wait, you say. We've got the top technology and medical know-how in the whole freakin' world. America is No. 1! We have the healthiest people, and we get the best quality health care there is, bar none. USA! USA! USA!

Well, that's the rah-rah myth we're fed by the industry, the media and most politicians, but it's not true. Still, if you insist that the United States simply must be No.1, it is true that ours is by far the most expensive health care system on the globe. Go, USA! In 2004, spending averaged $6,280 for each man, woman, and child in America -- more than double the average ($2,307 per capita) spent in all other industrial countries.

Over 16 percent of our economy ($1.9 trillion last year) goes into our corporatized system -- 50 percent more than Switzerland's universal system, which ranks second in spending per person. Not only does the United States drastically outspend everyone else, but it does so while leaving tens of millions of Americans outside the system. In contrast, Canada puts only 10 percent of its economy into health care, Australia 9 percent, and England 7 percent, and these countries manage to provide care for every one of their people.

While we Americans pay much more, we get far less. The World Health Organization's latest survey ranks the quality of U.S. health care at -- cue the trumpets -- 37th in the world. Ta-da! Not only is our system's performance beneath Canada, Japan and all of Europe, but it's also beneath such powerhouses as Malta, Colombia, Morocco, Chile and Dominica. We're only one notch above Slovenia, for godssake!

America's "CorporateCare" system fails on the most basic measures of health. For example, babies born in impoverished Cuba have a better chance of survival than babies born here. On average, 77 babies die every day in the United States -- an infant mortality rate that, according to the CIA World Factbook, ranks us way down at No. 42. At the other end of life's span, our people can expect to die younger than those in 34 other countries -- including Cuba, Andorra, Luxembourg, San Marino and, yes, Slovenia.


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From The Hightower Lowdown, edited by Jim Hightower and Phillip Frazer, June 2006. Jim Hightower is the author of "Let's Stop Beating Around the Bush" (Viking Press).

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SOCIALISM IS NOT A DIRTY WORD . . or shouldn't be
Posted by: LMNOP on Jun 20, 2006 1:31 AM   
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The author makes his excellent case for single payer national health care, a semi-socialized form of national health care like the Medicaid and Medicare programs, but extending coverage to the entire population.

The author then names several socialized models that function more efficiently than America's: Canada, England, Australia and Switzerland.

Then toward the end, when we get to Big Lies, to "IT'S SOCIALIZED MEDICINE" he says,

"Wrong, Limbaugh-breath. Like Medicare, government doesn't deliver the health care under a single-payer system (SPS) -- you still go to your choice of doctors and hospitals. SPS, as the name suggests, is merely a government-run payment system."

I believe that this is still socialized medicine whether the government behaves simply as an insurer (collects premiums as taxes, payout benefits) or actually builds, staffs and runs hospitals and clinics as in the VA system, if it involves public dollars being spent on universal, single-payer coverage of a nation, I don't see how you get around calling it socialized health care.

Nor should you. This word, like "liberal", the word "socialism" has been pejorated by the liars' spin machine. It is not a dishonorable or evil economic system. In fact, it's the most democratic form of economy, appropriate for a republican democracy (a republic).

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» Organic Myth Posted by: Conservativation
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» RE: Organic Myth Posted by: Gma1
Man this country sucks!
Posted by: johnecolby on Jun 20, 2006 2:00 AM   
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Our nation is a travesty held together by mythology and most of our citizenry being chumps. We will get fooled again, and again, and again. Until?

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Agreed!
Posted by: bttl on Jun 20, 2006 3:13 AM   
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You've got it right- our health insurance system is a cruel joke and Americans are led to believe that we have better care than the rest of the world. Until we have political leaders who are not beholden to insurance companies, paying them back for their campaign contributions, and courted by lobbyists, we won't see change. So dump them and elect leaders who will truly serve the people.

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Healthcare By Any Other Name
Posted by: ChristopherLL on Jun 20, 2006 3:45 AM   
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The Healthcare industry has become promotion of technology rather than the health of citizens. Costs have soared because every new technology adds enourmous cost to care but frequently has only modest, if any, real benefit over previous procedures or medications. What is missing is the preventive health approach. Any change in healthcare needs to give resources and support to design and implement comprehensive health education programs and policies equal to what hospitals and clinics provide. Lifestyle now is the leading cause for most chronic disease, disability and premature death. Lack of physical activity, proper eating habits, stress and depression lead to high cholesterol, high blood pressure, diabetes, arthritis, addictions and many other conditions that are now and will increasingly burden our healthcare resources. The other fact is that business is now controlling healthcare in this country and money has become the driving force. It works well when selling products (procedures, medications, tests) but not so well in caring for human beings. And healthcare by any other name is till about human beings and not business.

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Irony
Posted by: Annarisse on Jun 20, 2006 4:05 AM   
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Canada is considering allowing people to pay for elective procedures to move to the front of the line. Part of the justification is the lack of wait times in the U.S. for those procedures. While the U.S. starts to move towards a SPS, Canada is starting to move away from it. Your national myths about how great your health care is have affected us too, and not for the better.

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right
Posted by: rsaxto on Jun 20, 2006 4:06 AM   
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Hightower is right on every aspect of our so-called health care. To add to his litany of wrong-headed healthcare/insurance is the fact that numerous patients are overprescribed and wrongly prescribed medicines that often do more harm than good. Our new universal care system must have built into it a system to make sure medications actually help patients instead of sometimes poisoning/killing them for the sick profit of greedy industrial drug pushers.

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» RE: right Posted by: Lincoln fan
insurance takeover of the healthcare
Posted by: michaeltwatson on Jun 20, 2006 4:28 AM   
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Hightower is right again. It is the insurance companies that want to preserve the system as it is, because otherwise they are out of the profit loop and many of them would be out of jobs. When they are in the system, they spend billions of dollars a year on marketing, lobbyists and legislation to protect themselves. They insure the patients and collect premiums, they insure the doctors and collect premiums, and the big ones even insure the insurance companies, through re-insurance, and collect premiums. Then they stiff the people by denying payment, calling the decision one of "utilization." When their utilization decisions, or wrongly prescribed drugs, hurt or kill people, then they want Congress to limit the rights of citizens to seek access to the court system. Just last month they tried again to limit all injured patients to a maximum recovery of $75,000 in the injured patients pocket, for such injuries as death, brain damage, or crippling injury. Strangely, 48 U.S. Senators, controlled by insurance lobbyists, voted for the provision. They have tried it seven times in the last four years, and they will keep on trying it. Michael Townes Watson, author of America's Tunnel Vision--How Insurance Companies' Propaganda Is Corrupting Medicine and Law. www.AmericasTunnelVision.com

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» This link doesn't work Posted by: Lincoln fan
A PLAN from Indie candidate District 5 Florida
Posted by: wawa on Jun 20, 2006 4:44 AM   
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Eileen Fleming is a retired RN, nursing home volunteer married to an Internist/Geriatrician/Professor, and is NOW running for House of Representatives District 5 in Fla.

The following is excerpted June 4 WAWA blog:

A major force for high medical costs is because of the overemphasis on prescribing drugs in our culture, which is largely propelled by the pharmaceutical industry. It is the drug companies that pay for drug research and it is their pressure on the FDA that leads to drugs like VIOX being put on the market for the drug companies research is always biased.

If elected I will champion to eliminate all drug advertising from the media as was done with cigarette advertising. The excessive drug ads in the media drive up the cost of every pill and are unnecessary as throughout America, drug reps routinely visit medical offices with drug samples, literature, free lunches, etc. to educate physicians to the latest pharmaceuticals.

I am a proponent for personal responsibility to ensure optimum health. Education is required to re-channel or change behaviors in regards to healthy living, an emphasis on prevention and non-drug approach to care.

much more on the WAWA BLOG June 1, 3, 4, etc.

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the final solution revolution
Posted by: solrev on Jun 20, 2006 5:21 AM   
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I am disappointed in you liberal bloggers, you all have good verbal skills but you seem a bit retarded. Would you please stop saying dump the political class that controls you and elect some real Americans.
The game you are playing is an illusion you are not going to see enough Americans on a national ballet to change anything. It really hurts us that we are willing to die for the likes of you. How is this for a plan if you are dying of cancer take a pig with you? Revolution will work. If you people had the guts to take this country back, you could do it in two years. In stead of us killing your corrupt elected officials just to get rid of them, you cowardly people should do it. I do not mean kill them that’s our job and were trained for it. If you are a democrat or an independent do not vote in the 2006 election accept at local levels. Give the entire government to the republicans. Let them run around the world saying it is our job to bring democracy to the world and we will kill you if you not believe it. What is wrong with that picture if only about twenty percent of the people in this country vote for the morally bankrupt leaders? You do not have to go into the streets, stand up and be counted, do not vote. A “no vote protest vote” now that is a real revolution and one the world would not soon forget. However, that is beyond the capability of you whiners. So keep playing their game and be good little slaves.

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Don't vote against vote for
Posted by: Lincoln fan on Jun 20, 2006 5:31 AM   
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Our healthcare system has never been anything but a national disgrace through both Democeatic and Republican administrations. It's symptomatic of the control that the corporatocracy has over our government. Because big business controls both parties we can't vote them out of power. We can only choose which party represents the coporatocracy.

Liberals constantly wonder at the religious right voting Republican against their economic interest. They make the assumption that voting Democrat would be in their economic interest. It should be evident that our elections are not about economic issues. Everyone tacitly agrees that the corporations control our economy and ecomic issues are mentioned peripherally in vague terms.

We have become a nation whose politics boil down to voting for the "lesser of the evils" party. Our elections are negative. Very few people vote "for a candidate" most vote "against his opponent".

The only practicable solution that I can see to this problem is to form a grassroots movement that will dictate the platforms of both parties before the election. With a powerful movement we can force both parties to take sides on our issues. Not only economic issues but all issues important to us.

This is a unique idea in several ways. One is that we use the power of our votes before the election. Another is that the movement is for all issues important to the voters but it only has one unifying issue; that is, majority rule. Still another unique feature is that very popular issues will be adopted by both parties and won before the election.

Investigate The Lincoln Initiative, consider joining and making "government of the people, by the people, and for the people" a reality. Click on A New Idea

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My DLC State Senator thought's on universal health care
Posted by: sausage on Jun 20, 2006 6:00 AM   
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In yesterday's email update of his newsletter, my card carrying Democratic Leadership Councilstate senator, he's a real estate developer who benefits from eminent domain and TIF laws, wrote:As Iowans, we have been mired down in our fascination with a single-payer system(emphasis added). We have to move away from that position and create initiatives like our mother’s and grandmothers created beautiful quilts – one program at a time. When we start sewing our programs together, we can have universal health care.

Now preceding the above three sentences is a self-congratulatory list of state sponsored initiatives, programs and various ad hoc and stop-gap measures to bring low-cost health care to Iowa's poor. Now I've nothing against the state's poorest citizens, but the lack of adequate health care effects nearly everyone in the state in one way or another.

What this DLC-running dog is really telling his constituents is don't expect any meaningful change in Iowa's health care system, now, in the immediate future or ever.

Democrats like my state senator just can't imagine cutting off the Vampire Health Insurance Industry from its lucrative business of sucking the lifeforce out of policy holders.

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All will be made clear
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Jun 20, 2006 7:16 AM   
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Let's ask President Bush about these issues (which primarily do affect the elderly portion of society):

George W. Bush, "explaining" Social Security, Tampa, FL Convention Center, 2005.02.04:

"Because the—all which is on the table begins to address the big cost drivers. For example, how benefits are calculate, for example, is on the table; whether or not benefits rise based upon wage increases or price increases. There's a series of parts of the formula that are being considered. And when you couple that, those different cost drivers, affecting those—changing those with personal accounts, the idea is to get what has been promised more likely to be—or closer delivered to what has been promised. Does that make any sense to you? It's kind of muddled. Look, there's a series of things that cause the—like, for example, benefits are calculated based upon the increase of wages, as opposed to the increase of prices. Some have suggested that we calculate—the benefits will rise based upon inflation, as opposed to wage increases. There is a reform that would help solve the red if that were put into effect. In other words, how fast benefits grow, how fast the promised benefits grow, if those—if that growth is affected, it will help on the red."

President Bush Participates in Conversation on Medicare Prescription Drug Benefit in Florida, May10 , 2006:

"And so we created what's called Part D. And basically, Part D is a prescription drug benefit for not only our seniors, but those who qualified who are disabled, as well. Part D says this: It says that seniors are -- now got a prescription drug plan available to them. It's your choice to make. One of the interesting things about the strategy we've employed is seniors now have over 40 choices to choose from in Florida. Now, that in itself created a slight problem, because 40 choices can create a sense of uncertainty among people. You know, people say, I don't think I want all those choices. After all, there had been very little choice up to now. And so the idea of saying, well, here are 40 different plans to choose from, I knew was going to create the need to encourage people to get involved to help people make the right choice for them."

Who is going to make the right choice for you? Your personal physician would be a person to at least ask an opinion of. How about a private insurance broker? You're in good hands with us... honest. Maybe a pharmaceutical drug company? Take our drugs. Feel good. Here's the bill.

The fact is that the high profits in the pharmaceutical sector of the health care industry are based on the development of new drugs with exclusive patents, but that's under threat:

(from Wikipedia, Pharmacetical Companies page)
"Taking a broader look across the industry, no fewer than 19 blockbuster drugs are expected to hit patent crisis by 2008. Analysis suggests that 150 mid-sized new compounds will be needed by 2007-2008 in the U.S. alone to plug this gap."

The United States accounts for 46% of the world's pharmaceutical market. The rise of generics would greatly reduce profits, as would publicization of all drug trial results (which tend to show that cheaper generics tend to work just as well as new patented knock-offs).

Solution: another government welfare program for wealthy corporations.

"This program is a component of Medicare (United States) and is known as "Medicare Part D." This program, set to begin in January 2006, will significantly alter the revenue models for pharmaceutical companies. Revenues from the program are expected to be $724 Billion between 2006 and 2015 [11].

Plan D looks like a guaranteed no-bid ten-year one-trillion government contract whose principle beneficiary is the pharmaceutical drug industry, not people who can't afford high-quality health insurance plans.

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Non-insured $400, Insured $156: same service - go figur!
Posted by: gar on Jun 20, 2006 7:18 AM   
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I have before me a bill for $400 from Radiology Associates, P. A. of Little Rock, Arkansas. Of that $400, my health insurance paid $133.13. An additional $243.38 was written of as an "HMO/PPO discount." That leaves me owing $23.49.

That means that every time Radiology Associates performs a similar service for a person without insurance, they are paid $400. If they perform that service for a person with insurance, they only get 39% of that or $156.62.

It seems unconscionable to me that a person without insurance is charged two and a half times more than a person with insurance. I realize that this would be justified by the company by saying that the collection rate from people without insurance is very low - but still .... This is the open market place that Bush talks about and it seems damned unreasonable to me.

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SCRAP THE WHOLE MESS.
Posted by: resistance6 on Jun 20, 2006 8:15 AM   
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It's all going to end anyway because we just don't have the money for this nonsense. These doctors aren't helping anybody anyway. People would be a lot healthier and live a lot longer if we didn't have this "system" at all.

I'm moving to the country where I can go dig my own roots and herbs and grow my own food and drink my own water.

I'm going to learn the Bowman Technique (ie nst) -- an amazing way to heal with a light touch of the hand. No it's not New Age hocus pocus. It's practical, simple healing that gets to the root of the problem and fixes it quickly and easily.

The whole "healthcare" industry is a racket.

Advice -- Avoid doctors and lawyers. They take your money and compound your problems.

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Finger in the Dyke
Posted by: Gregor on Jun 20, 2006 9:04 AM   
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Well, it is one stophole in a vast leaky system. I wonder why people think everyone (except all of the Alternet Readers) are succumbing to advertising? Most people are leary of advertising when they get older. Yes it will always have some impact, but unless people are total non-thinkers (which there always will be) most people sift through the blantant advertising.

I would like a more proactive stance other than just limiting advertising. Big deal.l

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Laurence Topliffe
Posted by: peaceyogi on Jun 20, 2006 9:19 AM   
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All those who are concerned about the health care program in the US should be aware that most health problems are self-caused. People eat wrong, don't get the rest they need, put garbage in their bodies, pollute the environment where the things we need to eat are grown, don't like the idea of fasting to purify the body, etc. ON top of that, they put people in office who are heartless and thoughtless. I realize that Bush got in because of corruption so they can't be totally blamed for the situation now. The future of the government and policies can be found by looking at www.tm.org, www.uspeacegovernment.org, www.globalcountry.org, www.globalgoodnews.com, www.mum.edu, www.permanentpeace.org, www.mou.org. Read Victory Before War. Look at www.mapi.org. Look into natural health. DO search for "bubbling bliss of yogic flying."

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waiting lists for doctors
Posted by: quadgemini on Jun 20, 2006 10:49 AM   
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We should never miss an opportunity to more-thoroughly debunk the right-wing canard about medical waiting-lists in Canada: the reason Canada has waiting lists is because so many of its home-grown doctors get siphoned off into the giant black-hole of the pharma-insurance-industrial-(medical)-bureaucracy sucking in all matter, light and hope to the south of them. Fixing our system would radically improve theirs, too.

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DEMOCRAT, REPUBLICAN, BLACK, WHITE, ON, OFF
Posted by: FauxPorteno on Jun 20, 2006 2:08 PM   
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If I read one more post stating that "we need to dump the Republicans and get the Dems back in" I'm gonna fucking puke!! WTF is wrong with all of you? Did Bill and Hillary give you universal healthcare? FUCK NO!! They sold out just like the next Dem. or Repub. bitch-ass trick will (otherwise risk being assassinated by a black op. thug from Merck or Blue Cross/Blue Shield).

I live in South America and recently returned from a trip to Europe where I spent a lot of time discussing politics with old friends. The most glaring problem with the US political system according to most is a lack of variety. We had George "the second coming of Christ" Bush and John "Dullard" Kerry as options in the last election with a little known alternative who, IMHO, would have made an EXCELLENT president but alas I think I was the only one who voted for him . . . Otherwise what kind of options are these for fuck sake??

I thought about this one for awhile and realized that Americans really have shit for brains and it doesn't make one iota of difference who is put in front of them. So long as they have $500 million election war chests or Ben Affleck and Mike Moore standing at their side it won't matter because Americans are so many Pavlovian dogs - drooling when they see a celebrity supporter or slickly produced mudslinging campaigns. If it's on the TV then it must be true . . . "Hey ma, did you know that John Kerry wiped out an entire city of Vietnamese children with a blow torch back in '68?" As Americans, we are increasingly incapable of thinking for ourselves and therefore deserve what we get - father Bush to take us all down to the river and baptize us in the blood of innocent war dead . . . Nothing will change and more children will die from lack of healthcare but who fucking cares right?? Shhhh - time for The Simple Life . . .

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Excellent Essay
Posted by: launcher on Jun 20, 2006 2:51 PM   
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The concessions given to the health industry are outright scandalous. They must be openly discussed or the U.S. will continue its way down this dangerous and costly path.

I've given this essay a permanent bookmark. It has some great talking points.

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Fear Factor
Posted by: famouspipeliner on Jun 20, 2006 5:25 PM   
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The creation of a universal, single payer system is a moral issue. That is, we as humans have evolved to the point where we can say that the lives of people count.
Why is it that the wealthiest nation on earth claims that it cannot afford even basic health care for its' citizens?
Is it fear? Fear that doctors wouldn't make the coin they do now? Fear that insurance, pharma, med suppliers wouldn't make ever increasing profits? Fear that a universal system would mean that the U.S had adopted a 'social' program?
Why is human life so cheap in America and health care so expensive?
Readers of Alternet will remember the now silent poster 'Cry0fan' who overemphasized the need to focus on certain issues like healthcare. Maybe he was right even if his methodology was suspect.
What would happen to the political debate in America if a presidential candidate were to campaign for a universal health care system? Would it get out the vote? Would it re-energize the left, give them something to fight for? Would it demonstrate that not all politicians are the same?
Do the moral thing people and campaign FOR something that is in the interest of the people. Thanks for listening.

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The health care mess
Posted by: YANN on Jun 20, 2006 8:13 PM   
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I worked as an executive for a large managed care organization and do agree with the notion of corporate greed. There are no reason for the CEO of Aetna to pocket 43 million dollars in stock options while more than 42 million americans are are without coverage; however, the so called socialized medecine does not always work; Europe is a perfect example; The goverment are broke; Offering an open check book to a healthcare consumer is not the answer. I have seen it; to solve the healthcare crisis, we need to to make the consumer responsible; by letting people eating junk food all day or not excercing enough , we are subsudizing a group of people that are expecting that society owes them something; We need to make people responsible for their health; I agree with a Single payer system but at the same time we need to bare some responsability

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from a provider perspective
Posted by: mwildfire on Jun 21, 2006 6:00 AM   
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I work as a case manager in a mental health facility in rural West Virginia, and recently wrote an enraged rant there isn't room for here, about the idiocy and ineffectuality of the system I'm forced to work in. Most of our clients have Medicaid, many have Medicare, and these programs set the rules for the work we do. I probably spend at least 80% of my time on paperwork to justify billing, no more than 20% actually helping my clients.
One reality some people don't understand is that the people left out of the health care system in this country aren't generally the poorest--they qualify for one of these programs and can go to the emergency room every week if they feel like it--and some do (it's called factitious disorder). The people left out are the second-to-the-bottom-quintile, the working poor.
It's very true that bad health habits are an enormous part of the health problem in the US, but we should have a government education campaign to help with this. We can't, because the junk food companies and the cigarette companies, along with the drug companies, have too much power. We have a system in which making the rich richer is way out front as the highest priority--and this is the result we get. Just as we get a national energy policy apparently designed to pollute the environment, increase dependence on foreign oil supplies, and speed up global warming.

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Health Care Hurts
Posted by: lmwilker on Jun 21, 2006 8:25 AM   
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I am a pedestrian. I do not drive. I had a corn so deep and painful it was interfering with my daily life so I went to the doctor to have it removed. She cut it off at the surface and charged me $120.00. My insurance refused to cover it so this procedure cost me about two days' pay. The corn is back and it hurts but I can't afford to have it taken care of and that's with insurance "coverage" and this claim was only the third time in 15 years I've personally had any sort of medical claim having had my children at home with a midwife which insurance also doesn't cover. We also have no vision coverage and a $20.00 doctor visit co-pay which means maybe only one of the sick children can be seen and they have to share the meds.

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Every Democrat supported by Moveon
Posted by: daw13 on Jun 22, 2006 6:15 AM   
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should loudly commit to righting this wrong, or not receive a dime of support.

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Not sure about the wait times
Posted by: blm on Jun 23, 2006 1:29 PM   
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My wife's aunt, who's living in Vancover Canada came down here (U.S.) a year or 2 ago to have some non-cosmetic eye surgery done because she would have had to wait several months there. I think also that I read somewhere recently that England is having problems and is considering allowing private, direct-pay health care in addition.

This troubles me but I don't know to what extent this is sensationalization by the insurance companies for their own financial interests. I also don't know to what extent it's an issue of patient expectations. Was my wife's aunt unnecessarily impatient or reasonable?

If we went SPS here, the rich would most likely simply start paying doctors directly for better service, by one means or another. Whether that means jumping to the front of the line or getting procedures beyond what the rank & file would get, it seems inevitable.

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My heart attacted me
Posted by: ccluelessfl60 on Jun 23, 2006 10:31 PM   
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For want of affordable medicines and medical care I ignored many inherited health issues I had and one day my heart said enough.and slapped me silly. I had good care and good doctors who stented my heart but the day of discahrge I had to beg for medicine from the social service lady, who thought I was crazy. I was scared ,I was 54 and I did not want to die ,just yet. I have done my best to do what I could to keep medical coverage but since my MI no private insurer will touch me .Due to my poverty , from unemployment I did finally qualify for medicaid and got the meds I need to stay alive.By the way medicaid is gone now.We disabled are on medicare. I do not enjoy being a burden on taxpayers, but my only other choice is to go ahead and die.
I worked all my life as a nurse caring for others and watched medicine change from a source of service for all to a coorparate driven profit machine. It broke my heart to see patients come in with such advanced stages of diseases that the best we could do was alleviate some of the pain,They did not have the money to seek out medical help until it was too late.
It sounds so trite to call it a health care system when it is a Broken Greed driven Monoply. A system that preys on the sick and unfortuante.
If you do not have health insurance ,try to get an appointment with a doctor .Try to have a dignositic test done in a lab or pay for life saving meds. Many of these simple things could save millions of dollars a year and improve the qualty of life for countless thousands.
Until it is you and sadly it is more of us , we are starting to see it coming. Lets demand a change now and in the future.When it is your life your perspective changes.

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HEALTH CARE
Posted by: Schnieder on Jun 24, 2006 8:21 AM   
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We, as a nation, are using tax dollars collected from most everyone including the uninsured, under-insured and the uninsurable to assign greater values to some lives than to others. Forty-seven percent of health care in this country is tax payer funded. I can think of no moral argument for this situationt to continue. I am in the Medicare system and fully aware that the lion's share of my health care is tax payer funded. I am not comfortable with the knowledge that many of those tax dollars are from the uninsured, under-insured and uninsurable. I can think of no reason my life should be assigned a greater value than the life of a six year old, a thirty year old or anyone else. I challenge anyone to make a case that what we have in the way of health care in this country is moral or that the situation should continue.

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We Have Plenty of Money for War
Posted by: Newsguy on Jun 24, 2006 10:49 PM   
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This country stockpiles 10,000 nuclear warheads. I have no idea what that cost, but it has got to be enough to fund decent health care for everyone.

On top of that we are currently spending $8 billion a month destroying Iraq, killing Iraqis and getting our own soldiers killed.

This is insane. It is the product of deranged minds. And I am not being satirical. I am dead serious. We are ruled by people who should be in mental institutions. With free access to psychiatrists, of course.

The only way in this country to get free health care is to (a) get elected to Congress. They have all taken care of themselves and their families with an excellent government-sponsored health plan, or (b) get convicted of something and go to prison, where you will also get free healthcare. For the rest of us, it's every man for himself, unless you qualify for Medicare.

Health care for everyone should be a basic human right, like free speech and clean air.

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The Shill of Bankruptcy
Posted by: stonehinge on Jun 25, 2006 6:01 AM   
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It is a fact that England's National Health Service is broke.

However, these hopsitals were doing just fine until they were given to the private sector to manage. Since then, all the equity has been traded for debt, in the same way that the corporations in the US were hollowed out. It is important to distinguish the root cause of the bankruptcy. These bankruptcies are not the result of a universal health system by any means. Instead, the problem can be entirely attributed to the financial malfeasance which lies at the heart of privatization.

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