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GOP: Outsourcing Everything

By Molly Ivins, AlterNet. Posted May 23, 2006.


The administration just keeps passing off its dirty work: the war in Iraq, the war on 'foreigners' -- and that ingenius 50-foot wall to keep them out.
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Last week, Bush visited Yuma, Ariz., to tour a portion of the U.S.-Mexico Border by Border Patrol buggy. Maybe Jorge was doing a little measuring for the $3.2-million-a-mile fence the Senate recently approved, which I guarantee will be really helpful.

Are they insane? As Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano observes, "Show me a 50-foot wall, and I'll show you a 51-foot ladder."

Meanwhile, Republicans in the Senate have constructively declared English the national language. That'll fix everything. Every foreigner at our borders will stop and say: "Gosh, ma foi! English is the national language here. Good thing to know. I'll begin speaking it immediately." Yes sir, you want a solution, call a Republican.

Of course, I am enchanted to discover that the entire project will be turned over to Raytheon, General Dynamics and other military contractors -- think Halliburton with noncompetitive bids, anyone? Because this outsourcing stuff is just working like a charm. Another Republican solution.

Naturally, in Texas, National Laboratory for Bad Government, we do it all first and worst. We started with this dandy plan to outsource applications and enrollment for social service programs such as food stamps and Medicaid. In theory, we were to save millions -- though I never could understand it myself. You see, Texas has one of the cheapest state governments on the continent, but when we hire outside contractors, they expect to make a profit. Add profit, add cost. Oh well.

So the state hired this firm based in Bermuda on an $899 million five-year contract. So far, the health and human services commissioner has been forced to ask 1,000 state employees who were scheduled to be laid off by the end of the year not to leave after all -- and to offer each of them a $1,800 bonus to stay. Oops.

Among other errors, the private consortium mistakenly dropped 6,000 children from the children's health insurance program. The state comptroller (who is running for governor against the incumbent, Goodhair Perry) says the program is "a perfect storm of wasted dollars, reduced access to services and profiteering at the expense of Texas taxpayers."

With a record like that, of course, Republicans want more outsourcing. Ted Koppel suggests in The New York Times that we outsource war: "Blackwater and other leading security companies are seriously proposing to officials at very high levels of the government that their private forces could relieve a number of the burdens now being shouldered (or not) by American troops. ... The Pentagon ... is nonetheless struggling to come to terms with what it now calls 'the long war.' There is every expectation that the fight against global terrorism and the most extreme forms of Islamic fundamentalism will last for many years. This is a war that will not necessarily require aircraft carriers, strategic bombers, fighter jets or heavily armored tanks. It will certainly not enable the United States to exploit its advantages in nuclear weapons. It is a war, indeed, that favors the highly mobile and adaptive fighting skills of the former Special Forces soldiers and other ex-commandos ..."

"Will"? Hell! Did and does. This is a war that is being fought with the wrong tools -- and, in Iraq, at the wrong time, in the wrong place and against the wrong enemy.

It never did call for tanks, jets or carriers -- just a combination of good detectives and good intelligence. In other words, smart, clever people with language skills. All of which we have fully available to us because of ... immigration. Lebanese, Iraqis, Iranians, Syrians, Pakistanis and Indonesians have all become Americans, and in so many cases we got the bravest of the brave -- those who fought Saddam, the Ayatollah and Assad, Lebanese who saw their country torn apart by religious factions. These are Americans who know the culture and language of the Middle East and other Islamic countries, and who care deeply about how it all comes out.

By all means, reform immigration with this deep obeisance to the Republican right-wing nut faction and their open contempt for "foreigners." But do not pretend for one minute that it is not a craven political bow to racism (yes, racism -- I am actually calling them racists, although they pretend it hurts their feelings. Try reading their websites and see for yourself), and to nativism, to xenophobia and to Know-Nothingism. Just don't forget what you are throwing away in the process.

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Sad sack troll
Posted by: brasilaron on May 23, 2006 1:09 PM   
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you are an un-clever poster and have no cause to insult Ms. Ivins in such a childish way. You posts are such pathetic and make you look ridiculous. Please grow up.

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» On Censoring. Posted by: ssegallmd
RE: Ivins is rich and has no fear of immigrants driving down her wages
Posted by: kwesibaby on May 23, 2006 1:13 PM   
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how idiotic. the immigration issue is not about ivins its about conservatives and the corporate right using cheap labor to maximize profits. don't blame her - blame your congressman!

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RE: Ivins is rich and has no fear of immigrants driving down her wages
Posted by: athensga on May 23, 2006 1:16 PM   
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What?? Because she has chosen a harmless way to make a modest living, you want to indict her for mass murder?

Get real. Stop trying to out-lefty everyone here.

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RE: Ivins is rich and has no fear of immigrants driving down her wages
Posted by: kmeyer on May 23, 2006 1:17 PM   
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Good luck with that indictment, pal. Look, I understand that there is class struggle in society, but your utopianist tone is pitiful. It is exactly what drove Mao and Lenin to commit to disastruous policies in the name of, on paper at least, a compelling and heartfelt ideology. Imagine you are in power. What do you do with those who disagree with you, who will not go along with your utopia? Kill them? Put them in camps? Come on. It's a shitty, complicated, and often disgusting world, but your line of garbage isn't helping. BTW, I am among those millions who can't afford health insurance, so don't imagine I'm some comfy living doofus who thinks problems don't exist. Grow the fuck up and help solve real problems realistically. It's never gonna be a perfect world, so try to make it better, not perfect.

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Your redneckery is showing
Posted by: sliver on May 23, 2006 1:27 PM   
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It's not us against them. We are all in this together. I see the Republican wedge issue has given you a wedgie, and you are ready to threaten people about an issue we can all work out together. Sure, there might be medical problems, but lets work out a solution for everyone, not just for you.

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» RE: Your redneckery is showing Posted by: Lincoln fan
confusing babble from the cave...
Posted by: timg98376 on May 23, 2006 2:31 PM   
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Note the complete lack of recognition of where the political and economic power is in this country.

Universal medical care would be a good idea, that and many other things could easily have been accomplished without the Bush administration's war in Iraq.

Molly the mass murderer, arf arf arf...what about GWB, Cheney and Rumsfield?

No wonder they didn't want Saddam tried at the Hague, recognizing it's legitimate authority in the world would open up the possibility of their own indictments for mass murder, torture and criminal stupidity.

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Fencing
Posted by: Maryanne on May 23, 2006 2:32 PM   
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Growing up, we lived next to a large park- playground for children, baseball diamonds, tennis courts, etc. Wonderful place for children.

At the southern edge ran a railroad line, which cut the neighborhood in half. The park was encircled with a 6 foot high heavy chain link fence with entrances only on the north side. Within hours of the installation and after each repair, a section of fence was rolled back in order to have access to the other side. This happened repeatedly; eventually the city gave up and left the openings made alone.

No fence kept even us children out, certainly not the adults- nor did the Berlin Wall. Why waste millions of dollars on a fence that certainlyl will not work and cause only aggravation?

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» RE: Fencing Posted by: tomrl
RE: Ivins is rich and has no fear of immigrants driving down her wages
Posted by: LPB on May 23, 2006 2:35 PM   
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If you believe immigrants are the reason wages are low and many of us can't afford health insurance, you've been listening to the rightwing's propaganda, falling in with their plans. Did you maybe vote Republican in the last election and maybe you're filled with guilt and shame and trying to make up for it by going to the extreme left? Wake up and look around you. The big corporations are cutting wages. They could, in many instances, afford to pay their workers more than they do if they wanted to. It doesn't have anything to do with desperate immigrants; there are plenty of Americans, born and raised here, who are desperate enough to take woefully underpaid jobs. Do you think if all of the illegal immigrants left today that all of a sudden there would be a plethora of high-paying jobs cropping up? Get real!

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» Eat the rich Posted by: YogiBear
We have the lowest unemployment in years, Mexicans are not stealing jobs.
Posted by: lamar on May 23, 2006 2:42 PM   
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Let's face it folks, our unemployment is the lowest its been forever. To say that Mexicans are stealing our jobs is simply not correct. The idea that they are driving down wages is also wrong, given that they work in minimum wage or sub-minimum wage industries. There's a floor there that cannot be undercut.

Please try to conceal your racism in a theory other than "driving wages down" or "stealing our jobs". It insults those of us who think things through.

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» Wrong on both Posted by: YogiBear
RE: Ivins is rich and has no fear of immigrants driving down her wages
Posted by: lamar on May 23, 2006 2:45 PM   
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Is there a reason to fear lower wages due to Mexican workers?

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» There is plenty to fear Posted by: YogiBear
An alternative to the Fence PLUS a solution to the Pentagon's recruiting woes
Posted by: GwenG on May 23, 2006 3:21 PM   
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Why not forget the fence entirely and replace the border patrol with military recruiters. "Sure, son, c'mon in! Four years in the military and you'll get your citizenship!" Bush gets the troops for his eternal, infernal wars, we don't have to build a fence. Solves bunches of problems cheaply and efficiently. Karl Rove, are you listening?

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RE: Ivins is rich and has no fear of immigrants driving down her wages
Posted by: rlb2005 on May 23, 2006 3:53 PM   
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I wonder if this guy isn't one of those government plants used just to disrupt dialogue, if not, immigrants are not lowering the wages of congress. The minimum wage, healthcare, poor education system, etc.. are not the result of immigration, but the rich exploiting the poor masses. Take a look at the massive military budget, corporate welfare, outsourcing jobs, tax breaks that benefit the super wealthy, and other legislation which benefit those at the top tier of society, then see what's left for the immigrants to take. It won't be pretty

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Sweet!
Posted by: Fang-Face Dreamweaver on May 23, 2006 4:47 PM   
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Nice way to pitch a shit fit, Molly! You go, girl!

While we're at it, mayhap someone should poll all those rethuglican xenophobics and ask them just when they arrived. And if they can't prove they walked over the Bering land bridge we can round 'em up and ship 'em back to where they didn't come from.

Or maybe we should require them to meet a certain minimum level of communications in standard English themselves and boot them out if they can't be understood by a panel of fifty people; one from each state.

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rbush16
Posted by: rbush16 on May 24, 2006 12:00 AM   
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I didn't know you were rich until I read the comments. Thought you were just insightful and outspoken and courageous. But I could use 20 until Friday. If not, just write me another column. That would get me through.

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» RE: rbush16 Posted by: YogiBear
Why are people so lame
Posted by: jolo on May 24, 2006 1:43 AM   
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I will never, ever understand why people get stuck on choosing ignorance, sterotype and are blind to what is going on with offshoring and immigration issues. Here are the ones exploiting both the American worker and Mexicans.
Do Not Blame Victims who have no wealth or power. Illegal aliens, middle class Americans (or formally middle class), offshored workers, how the public education system keeps failing American's, The disgrace of health care, the removal of human/social services are are ALL due to the ones who HAVE the political, social and economic power !! Don't blame the poor and disenfranchised for our issues.
It is amazing how the corrupt government of Mexico, led by sleazball Vincente "The Fox" rapes the Mexican people as well as the American worker with his pimping for American Corporations.
American Corporate interests will NEVER allow illegal immigration to stop. There is no difference between the H-1b program, amnesty and the "guest worker program. All are designed to keep the flow of cheap labor available for Corporate interests.
Why were only 200 Coroporations fined for hiring illegal aliens last year? It keeps dropping. the fines are tokens anyway. Treat Corporations who EXPLOIT illegal aliens AND American workers as if they were selling drugs and alcohol to minors. Take their assests, have them pay for exploiting the illegal aliens by transporting them back, but making sure that they have resources for educating themselves. Force a donation to labor unions and American public schools.
How the heck can anyone blame the illegals for messing up the "culture (what culture ) and the English language ??THINK Haven't you read that most American high school graduates, read and write at less than eight grade levals ???? Focus on the power brokers who have made this occur.
One word NAFTRA. Nothing has increased the desperation of the Mexican people, keeps them poor, steals American jobs. destroys middle class America, AND HAS INCREASED THE DRUG TRAFFIC BETWEEN THE U.S. AND MEXICO. Please check this out.
Blame Congress, King Bush and Corporate leaders. Make sure you let your representatives know that you want the H-1b program stopped, that you want the ones that finance the illegal aliens, U.S. Corporations, to be fined and closed for hiring, or as I see it, exploiting illegal Aliens. Tell them that you want an investigation between the ties between the Mexican government and the U.S. government and U.S. Corporations. Cut the money flow. Say that you want relations cut with the Mexican government if they continue to not provide the very basics of human, health educational and economic opportunities for the Mexican people. Who is lobbying for the guest worker fiasco, the lack of enforcement AND increase in the H-1b worker programs? Who wants the amnesty? The only winner in the amnesty program is Corporate America who get to keep their frightened, underpaid, illegal workers.
Jon

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Wait...
Posted by: bg41 on May 24, 2006 3:47 AM   
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So, if English is now our official language, does that mean our President is going to learn how to speak it?


Now where am I going to find a source of that rueful derisive laughter that has kept me going these past six years? Clearly, this is Mexico's fault.

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» RE: Wait... Posted by: Sparks56
RE: Ivins is rich and has no fear of immigrants driving down her wages
Posted by: Sparks56 on May 24, 2006 4:03 AM   
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Given your view that immigration is the root of all the problems facing the poor and working class in this country, you will, I'm sure, endorse Molly Ivins's proposal for a policy of jail time for the employers of illegal immigrants.
I'm sure as well that you would support, as Molly Ivins supports, universal, single payer health insurance for all of us.
By the way, how are things going out on the resevation? I assume you are a Native-American since anyone else is a bit of a hypocrite to rail on so much about immigrants.
May the Great Spirit smile upon your ignorance.

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wackier and
Posted by: rsaxto on May 24, 2006 4:30 AM   
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The Bushies are getting wackier and wackier with every passing day. If you can't figure out how to do something right you are bound to screw it up royally. That's all the Bushies are: ROYAL SCREWUPS!

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Thank you for your comments Mr. Limbaugh, now go back to drug rehab.
Posted by: ZenX on May 24, 2006 5:02 AM   
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:-)

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» Pucker up, Buttercup! Posted by: cry0fan
RE: Ivins is rich and has no fear of immigrants driving down her wages
Posted by: texshelters on May 24, 2006 7:27 AM   
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Here here! Let's keep the fear and hate goin'! We Billionaires love it when the huddled masses hate each other and blame the 'Mezkins for lowering of wages and stealin' jobs while us rich live tax free, have havens in the Camens for our millions, send jobs overseas and bust unions. Keep hatin' and fearin' 'Merka! We love it!

Yours,
Tex Shelters

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Keep hatin' and fightin', it keeps us great!
Posted by: texshelters on May 24, 2006 7:30 AM   
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Here here! Let's keep the fear and hate goin'! We Billionaires love it when the huddled masses hate each other and blame the 'Mezkins for lowering of wages and stealin' jobs while us rich live tax free, have havens in the Camens for our millions, send jobs overseas and bust unions. Keep hatin' and fearin' 'Merka! We love it!

Yours,
Tex Shelters

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Idiocy knows no bounds---and no borders! (And Molly is right, as usual.)
Posted by: fool-on-the-hill on May 24, 2006 8:51 AM   
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The vast majority of Mexican immigrants are merely following the resources and money that have been diverted to the US from Mexico after the passage of NAFTA.
Since 1994, when NAFTA was enacted, over 500,000 small businesses in Mexico have failed. Formerly middle-class Mexicans now need to go "del norte" (up north) to make a living. As Jesus of Nazareth observed, "Wherever your treasure is, there will your heart be, also."

The other driving force behind the influx of immigrants dates back a decade, as well. In 1996, our Congress proved, AGAIN, that one should never underestimate the power of stupidity, found in large numbers, and magnified by great power!

The enactment of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRAIRA) constituted a radical change to immigration law, that among other brilliant (not!) measures, contained the following provision:

It is now more damaging to an "illegal" immigrant's chances of lawful entry into the United States IF THE IMMIGRANT EVER LEAVES the US after having "illegally" entered!! Let me repeat that: Since IIRAIRA became law, if a person enters the US without inspection, and then LEAVES, s/he is penalized FOR LEAVING!!!

Under IIRAIRA, if a person enters illegally, and stays as long as 6 months (the length of a growing season for fruit-pickers) then that person incurs a 3-year "bar" from returning legally, for any reason. If the person stays as long as a year (about how long it would take to save a modest nest-egg, by Mexican standards), then the "bar" is TEN YEARS!!!

The predictable result is what we see, today. Folks who used to come up and work for a while and go home, are now bringing the family and moving in permanently! They are not trying to "screw" American workers; nor do they have any overtly political motives. They are just trying to live, and provide a living for their families --- same as everybody else.

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RE: Ivins is rich and has no fear of immigrants driving down her wages
Posted by: caitlin on May 24, 2006 9:34 AM   
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Whatever, dude. The immigrants you feel so threatened by only take up a small fraction - like 4% - of the workforce. Most of those jobs that are supposedly so bad that not even US citizens will do them? Are currently being done by US citizens. And the problems with universal health care, etc.? Have nothing to do with Mexican immigrants.

God, you are SO BORING.

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Fences and walls
Posted by: janakiblum on May 24, 2006 9:49 AM   
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Anyone remember the Berlin Wall? It was built by the communists to keep "East" Germans in East Berlin, and was condemned by Western governments as an instrument of repression. Yet it appears to be OK if the Western administrations build walls to keep foreigners out. Isn't it the other side of the same coin?

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RE: Ivins is rich and has no fear of immigrants driving down her wages
Posted by: Wacre on May 24, 2006 10:59 AM   
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No wonder your tag is 'cryOfan' because all of your post is essentially a rant. For example, what is the overclass, by the way? An essentially meaningless term seemingly designed to obfuscate, more than anything else.

And while I know little about Molly Ivins, I suspect that she's probably not all that rich, though I could be wrong on that point.

Let's, for argument's sake, let's say that she is Donald Trump, Daddy Warbucks kinda rich.

So what. There will always be someone with more money than someone else. My problem is only when those with more money rig things, such as the tax code, so that all benefits seem to fall their way.

You raise some interesting points worth discussing, though I think you should ask what does cheap (referring to the pay they recieve, not the individuals themselves) labor done by immigrants have to do with people in this country having medical insurance?

And immigrants, like the rest of us, have little to do with how much we are paid. Instead, how about looking to the corporations and government, who have done their damnest to gut unions as to hire people for as cheaply as possible, despite what the law says.

Just as everyone in the world--right now--can be fed if there was the will to do so. Everyone could also have, at the very least, a basic package of healthcare benefits available to them if there was the will to do it.

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RE: Ivins is rich and has no fear of immigrants driving down her wages
Posted by: operdoc on May 24, 2006 1:27 PM   
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I think that Vincente Fox should take over Bush's job. I'm sure he would work cheaper and he's not an idiot. As for your comments, you've swallowed the whole right wing rhetoric without chewing. The people that perpetuate illegal immigration are corporate farmers, corporate textile companies and the like. You might consider spewing your bile at the Bush/Corporate oligarchy instead of poor Molly.

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"Mass Murder" ????
Posted by: AdamSelene40 on May 24, 2006 3:42 PM   
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OK ... lots of replies to "Ivins is Rich" -- I guess that's 'success' as understood by blogtrolls.

But let's be honest: any of us with web access and the leasure to spout off on a blog belong to what Jared Diamond calls the 'last to starve class.'

Past a certain point, outraged 'solidarity with the starving masses' rhetoric gets a little hard to take seriously.

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A border-in-name-only makes law look ridiculous...
Posted by: Sojourner on May 24, 2006 8:38 PM   
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...just as Prohibition makes law look ridiculous when it is unenforceable. One kind of "bad" law is one that is unenforceable. Bad laws drive out good ones.

Our swiss cheese of a border is a joke. And for the last century-plus, we were content to laugh. To suggest that we cannot protect our borders judges Americans as doofusses. Yes, I agree. We frequently follow the 3-stooges model. But what the h3ll is racist about wanting to protect your nation's borders? What's xenophobic about wanting the law to be obeyed (if it's obeyable)?

Molly, you're confused. It's allowed. No one can be right all the time. Can they?

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Outsource our government.
Posted by: monkeywrench on May 24, 2006 9:00 PM   
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Here's a thought: in the spirit of outsourcing every job in America, let's outsource our government. What the hell, we wouldn't have to pay the replacements as much, and they couldn't do any worse of a job than the nitwits we have now in Congress. Granted, they'd have to phone or e-mail their votes in from the exotic places they hang out – but how would that be any different than with our "representatives" today?

(NAFTA: Nincompoop America Finds The Answer.)

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» RE: Outsource our government. Posted by: ShoShenQ
This thread has been unjustly CENSORED
Posted by: cry0fan on May 25, 2006 4:57 AM   
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My post asking for the Justice Dept to indict Ivins has been unjustly removed. Public figures, ESPECIALLY those in the political arena, must prove up a very high standard of proof. It is NOT defamatory to ask the US Govt to indict someone for a suspected crime. THis goes to the very HEART OF DEMOCRACY and political speech.

I note that you pseudoLibs continually call for Bush to be tried for various crimes and yet YOUR posts are not deleted.

HERE IS MY POINT (FOR YOUR POINTY LITTLE HEADS): You democrats are just as venal, evil, pigheaded, greedy, power mad, as the GOP. And ALL major figures in BOTH parties, including politicians, pundits, advisors, columnists, etc should ALL be in trial in courts of law for HIGH CRIMES and TREASON and MURDER.

And it is NOT defamatory to make that statement.

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» Go rant on your own blog. Posted by: Sojourner
Security systems engineering
Posted by: Edward George on May 27, 2006 4:19 PM   
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It is not necessary to applaud spending the money on a real border security system for you to be aware of what one is. The loudly proclaimed goal of any qualified security system engineer is not to make the perimeter impenetrable (an impossibility) it is to DECTECT, DELAY and DEFEAT. The barrier is there only to delay entry until armed forces can arrive to defeat the attempted entry. How long the delay must serve depends on where the armed forces are located and their means of transportation, a cost tradoff. (Rolls of razor wire is usually better than walls for delaying.) In any case, one of the most important design problems is the avoidance of false alarms, whether deliberate or jackrabbit/tumble weed, that uses up the DEFEAT forces. Complete coverage with three kinds of sensors plus video cameras for evaluation are essential. All would have to be armored to keep from being deliberately disarmed from a distance, etc. It aint cheap to build, cheap to use, or cheap to maintain and it won't work 100% but it would slow things down to a tiny trickle. It also presents a horrible image of a cowering US. I don't recommend it.

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Posted by: Edward George on May 27, 2006 4:27 PM   
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Those guys don't know crap about designing a security system.

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This covers a lot of the real issues
Posted by: JESchwartz on Jun 2, 2006 5:07 PM   
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I think Jon does a great job of showing the interdependencies. I'd only add one thing. Does anyone really think at Al Qeda would go to all the trouble to train an operative who is willing to die for the cause and then send him into the U.S. via the desert? Especiallly when it's so easy to give him phony papers, a legal visa, and a first class plane ticket.

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Well
Posted by: tomrl on Jun 14, 2006 10:40 AM   
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Molly, I have thought this for a long time, but it is the first time I have seen someone else use the Know-Nothings name.
Talk about reverting to the bad old days.

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