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Inside Donnie Rumsfeld's Orwellian Pentagon

By Jim Hightower, Hightower Lowdown. Posted May 24, 2006.


While claiming that they must 'secure' America for a post-9/11 world, the BushCheney zealots are taking us back to a pre-1776 world.
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Editor's note: This is the second half of a two-part series from the Hightower Lowdown. Read last month's article here.

In 1928, Justice Louis Brandeis wrote that the real threat to American freedom was not from an outside assault, but from the devious manipulations of our own misguided leaders. "The greatest dangers to liberty," he observed, "lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning, but without understanding."

Nearly 80 years after Brandeis's warning, the zealots have been brought in from the far-right fringe on the golden chariot of George W, and they've shown that they have no understanding of the essence of America, which includes our hard-won liberties, our rule of law and our system of checked-and-balanced governmental power.

But these men of zeal -- Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al. -- are hardly well-meaning. They are deliberately and determinedly striving to impose the AntiAmerica on our own land -- an unrecognizable America of supreme executive authority, constant surveillance of the citizenry, secret government and suppression of dissent. Their chief weapon is fear. They feverishly wave the bloody flag of 9/11, shouting that the citizenry must surrender liberties or be attacked again by The Madmen, that we mustn't question authority for this only encourages The Madmen, that all government operations must be cloaked in a dark veil of secrecy to keep The Madmen off balance, and that executive and police power must drastically expand to protect us from The Madmen.

While claiming that they must "secure" America for a post-9/11 world, the BushCheney zealots are taking us back to a pre-1776 world. They have been astonishingly successful in a remarkably short time, insidiously taking autocratic step after step, which a compliant Congress and the establishment media have mostly missed, ignored, minimalized or applauded. These two "institutions of vigilance" have failed us. So it is up to "We The People" to assert ourselves against this dangerous rise of authoritarianism in Bush's America.

The spook society

"You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you have to concentrate on," George W said with a laugh at Washington's Gridiron dinner in 2001.

If only we'd known then that behind George's snickers, the Bushites were serious. Employing a combination of deceit, defiance, arrogance, flag-waving and secrecy, they have fooled a majority of Congress and the media into accepting the overlay of a "spook society" on our "Land of the Free." The far-reaching extent of their efforts are only now becoming clear.

Last month's installment covered Bush's secret and blatantly illegal directive for the National Security Agency to spy on citizens here at home. This clandestine four-year program of executive eavesdropping -- scooping up billions of phone calls and emails sent or received by innocent Americans -- has now been getting wide media coverage. But to focus only on this one piece is to miss the more startling reality: the quiet installation inside our country of a massive snoopervision complex, much of it initiated, funded and controlled by Donnie Rumsfeld's Orwellian Pentagon.

Since the founding of America, a central tenet of our liberty has been that the military is not to be turned on our own people. Violations of this guiding rule have occurred in the past, but rarely and only temporarily, and when it's been violated, public outcry has forced the reinstatement of the rule.

Bush & Co., however, has not only turned loose the military to spy extensively on the American people, but has also asserted the right to do so in perpetuity. Its claim is that 9/11 turned the homeland into a foreign battlefield, so the nation's historic prohibition against military surveillance of Americans is null and void. And since this war on terrorists has no end ("the long war," Rumsfeld calls it), the Bushites maintain that the Pentagon can engage in domestic spying ad infinitum.

This military intrusion into our privacy has come with a heavy dose of linguistic perversions by top officials. For example, a secret Pentagon memo from Nov. 5, 2001, has now surfaced. In it, the Army's chief intelligence officer insists that while the Pentagon cannot "collect" information on citizens who have no connection to foreign terrorists, it can "receive" such information. "Remember," he wrote with Machiavellian delight, "merely receiving information does not constitute 'collection' … [Military intelligence] may receive information from anyone, anytime."


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Jim Hightower is the author of "Let's Stop Beating Around the Bush" (Viking Press). He publishes the monthly Hightower Lowdown; for more information about Jim, visit jimhightower.com.

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This is blood chilling
Posted by: HawkSpirit on May 24, 2006 12:59 AM   
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I have yelled at people for almost a year to forget about the NSA and pay attention to the Pentagon data mining and their spying you and me and everyone else. Why isn't anyone beside Jim Hightower yelling about this? Somehow we have to get the news out or maybe they will just put me and Jim into one of those secret prisons they are building in Texas and other states. Please, pretty please work for those candidates you believe that can start changing this nightmare. We have to work together now and stop the infighting. We have to take the House and the Senate back before it is too late or state arming yourselves for a for our own little regime change in Washington, DC.

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» The choice is ours Posted by: Lincoln fan
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» RE: This is blood chilling Posted by: outsidea
» RE: This is blood chilling Posted by: Cathyc
» Yelling is never enough. Posted by: Lincoln fan
IMPEACH THESE HIDEOUS BASTARDS NOW!
Posted by: Tom Degan on May 24, 2006 3:50 AM   
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Good riddence to this country if its people are stupid enough to let the republican party retain control of both houses of congress in November of this year. You get the government you deserve, folks! By the end of the Summer of 2007, George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and the entire tidal wave of human shit that comprises their worthless admiinistration will be out of power and many of them (Bush and Cheney included) will be on their way to federal prison. Cheney just may escape his well-desreved fate. Given the state of his health, he just may be the first VP since Garrett Hobart in 1899 to die in office. Wishful thinking, I know. Just call me a cock-eyed optomist.

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» RE: IMPEACH THESE HIDEOUS BASTARDS NOW! Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com
IMPEACH THESE HIDEOUS BASTARDS NOW(Part Two)
Posted by: Tom Degan on May 24, 2006 3:55 AM   
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We have got to make sure that George W. Bush is the VERY LAST republican president in history. That party has pissed on our constitution and have cut the throats of the poor and the middle class. People who are misguided enough to call themselves "republicans" (can you imagine?) have got to start a new, reformed party. Something along the lines of the vision of....oh....say....Abraham Lincoln - as opposed to Adolf Hitler....Just a thought.

Pray for peace.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY

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key words
Posted by: mazel on May 24, 2006 4:02 AM   
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It's my understanding it's the use of certain key words that will flag our phone calls or emails. Do you think that if we ALL started peppering our communications with words like "bomb" we could get their equipment smoking and their heads to explode?

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retrogressive bums
Posted by: rsaxto on May 24, 2006 4:11 AM   
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We need to impeach and jail these retrogressive bums before they destroy freedom in America and the rest of the world. It's us over the Bushies or the Bushies UBER ALLES.

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The War Within
Posted by: ChristopherLL on May 24, 2006 4:25 AM   
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This country fought and defeated Mussolini and Fascism, Hitler and the National Socialist Party and then Stalin and Totalitarian Communism. It has since followed the path that was predicatable when seen through other empires in history. The victors ultimately, after having usurped power, become like those they defeated. Identifying with the Agressor. And those who we defeated perfected state control of all aspects of civilian life, surreptious surveillance of its citizens and delusional propoganda. No empire has survived yet who turn on their citizens and this one will not. America will be defeated economically by other countries as we continue our war within.

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sickofsleaze
Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com on May 24, 2006 4:36 AM   
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Impeach would be the keyword in my book

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» RE: sickofsleaze Posted by: pop80lou
Great article!!
Posted by: talkville on May 24, 2006 5:05 AM   
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The statement that we're being taken back to a "pre-1776" mode is entirely justified. Strong forces of the Right have mounted a sustained and very well organized assault on the constitution from the rear. It's a rear-guard attack, and soon enough it looks like we'll be living in an oligarchy 'legally' installed and headed by a 'unified administrator' elected by the oligarchs - a bureaucratic dictatorship for sure. Major institutional components are in place or well close to finishing up. Look for interesting times, young 'uns!

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» RE: Great article!! sickofsleaze Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com
» RE: Pre 1776? Posted by: Cathyc
» RE: Great article!! Posted by: 60yoh
Well, I knew this already...
Posted by: wearesilhouettes on May 24, 2006 5:51 AM   
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but most people of the "regular" news world have had no inkling that these things are going on, and continue to. TIA? What's that??? These operations will keep functioning, as they get even more secretive and change their names every time a little headline is mentioned on some indescript page of the NYTimes. I think as long as people have their houses, cars, shopping malls, tvs, and cell phones that beam Comedy Central directly to them, no one is going to pay attention or care what is going on. Oh hell, some might thow a fit once they hear it for the first time, but then the brain will go, "What can little 'ol me do about this? Where is my neighborhood activist community? Do I dare start a peaceful meeting once a week and get my name tagged on some government watchlist?" People like Alex Jones are good for society - a person who blasts the truth on a loudspeaker for everyone who wants to listen. At least that little grain of subversion and caution is planted there, even if you know it or not. Maybe when the oil runs low (or out), they find that cell phones cause cancer, and the interest and energy rates go through the roof, something will change. If you haven't read him before, please check out Derrick Jensen - he will definitely get you worked up (in a good way) about where this planet is going.

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» RE: Well, I knew this already...sickofsleaze Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com
» Alex Jones?!?!? Posted by: jnelson4765
Require the publication of the names of individuals on such lists?
Posted by: Sojourner on May 24, 2006 6:38 AM   
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The reason that secrecy works is because none of 'us' believe that there is any reason for 'us' to be on any official list.

Once the list of names is published and all of 'us' can see that we are indeed being watched and recorded, the uproar will be so great that something will be done.

And if not, then the program will have showed that it is not invasive. However, if even the total number of individuals who are being tracked is revealed, some sense of the intrusiveness of the program might be evident.

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Help!
Posted by: JohnnyM on May 24, 2006 6:43 AM   
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Let us suppose that this is all true. Most reading this excellent article already believe it. We are just reiterating the point... Now what?

What do we do about it? How do you get the ultra-patriotic to believe it? How do you get the message to the person just living their normal life, as if nothing is going on? To the person who says..."I don't care if they spy on me because I've got nothing to hide..." How do you stop BushCheney?

You can't rant; nobody will listen. Continuing to write articles about it doesn't get the message to them, they don't read (it) and the press is on their side, at least the mass-media press. You can protest, but these events seem to go unnoticed or are shut down before the message is out. You can play 'disruptor' until their heads explode, but that would take massive grass-root organization, which seems impossible although we try, and will likely BOMB as they'll just buy more infrastructure. You could move to Canada, but I as a Canadian believe those databases contain information on me too.

Now what? If someone out there, smarter than me, can provide an answer, please do.

I believe impeachment is possible, on 9-11 facts. It is now proven beyond a doubt that 9-11 was known beforehand, and allowed to happen so a police-state could be implemented with support (from the masses). Would this really stop them? Bush is just the front-man...

Now what?

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git yer two minute hate on with Emmanuel RumsfeldStein
Posted by: cry0fan on May 24, 2006 6:48 AM   
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Big Bro' don't want ya to think about unversal healthcare or progressive taxation, so just get your two minute hate on with Emmanuel RumsfeldStein....

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» da, dada da, dada dada Posted by: brasilaron
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» this advice has been given before Posted by: brasilaron
At the Very Moment...
Posted by: NoPCZone on May 24, 2006 7:10 AM   
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...that our country needs a robust 'Loyal Opposition', the Democratic Party as it exists on the Hill is largely laying low.

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» RE: At the Very Moment... Posted by: Roverton
» you're JOKING! Posted by: owleyes
TMI
Posted by: ghoster on May 24, 2006 7:15 AM   
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Do you really think that this crowd of imcompetents could even corelate any of this information and get anything useful out of it? The ones that could do this are working somewhere else. Nope the caliber of people necessary to do this won't. Besides billions of bits of information mostly wrong is not useful for anything. After all of this dust settles this will all be shit canned and we will move on to other distractions. I believe incompetence will trump any designs on an effecient management system. They have already shown that this crowd is hardly able to walk and chew gum without the complacency of the american public.

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» RE: TMI Posted by: Lincoln fan
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» RE: TMI Posted by: peacefulaim
It's the corporations stupid.
Posted by: gramps on May 24, 2006 8:12 AM   
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"Fascism should properly be called corporatism because it is the marriage of corporation power with state power" - Benito Mussolini. Hitler is dead but the same corporations that bought uniforms for his Brown Shirts are still with us. GM, IBM, and Krupp under a different name. Have you taken an aspirin lately? Unable to demonize a minority like the Jews, they have picked the Hispanics. The only thing that has kept us from an open terroristic dictatorship is that we are a homogeonous country occupied by many different cultures.

When one considers that Congress and the Supreme Court are on the corporation payroll as well as the administration. The coming downfall of Bush and company could well contain a charismatic leader who will turn the trick. Remember that the corporations dominate our press, our airwaves, and a congress that signs bills crafted in congressional offices by corporation lobbyists. Control by the corp press would be the envy of Hitlers Dr. Goebels.

The F word that has been proscribed was joined by another F word, (fascism) in being politically incorrect because it lost its standing as an admired solution when Mussolini made the trains run on time. The horrific crimes committed in its name will never be forgotten nor forgiven. Now we are faced with the same phenomena but the cause is the same. . . Corporation domination of humanity.

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» RE: It's the corporations stupid. Posted by: jreinhart1
Great Article Jim...
Posted by: JayGatsby on May 24, 2006 8:39 AM   
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I am curious how you got all this information? And are there any recent books that break all of this down? Perhaps another reader will know.

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New Facism
Posted by: Arvy on May 24, 2006 9:23 AM   
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At the beginning of World War 2, Germany was the most advanced nation on earth technologically. Their acheivments in science and culture were the envy of most of the rest of the world, their people thought of themselves as the brightest and best.
We ask ourselves how they could have then become a nation that supported Hitler, that could force the Jewish population to wear armbands etc… we all know the horrors (hopefully not just by watching Hollywood films).
The parallels to modern USA are striking and scary. How long before we see concentration camps (a British invention, I'm ashamed to say) for American Arabs?
"Un-Americanism?" (my god that's childish, we would laugh at someone if they tried to manipulate us with the expression 'Un-British')
Saluting the flag? (Mind you, Tony Blair is trying to import some of these methods of population control to Britain).
C'mon America, wake up and smell the Nazis.

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» RE: New Facism Posted by: outsidea
» RE: New Facism Posted by: Salvapath
Just a few suggestions
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on May 24, 2006 9:27 AM   
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What to do, what to do.

First of all, we could get the US media to report on this story - which has been ordered killed off by the mainstream media masters, as all evidence seems to show. If this was Clinton, we'd be reading daily 'tidbit' stories, all designed to keep the story in the front of the American Jungian mass consciousness for months on end. The domestic surveillance story - you know editors all over the US have been receiving orders to kill the story for the past few days, at least, just like they were receiving orders to give Clinton the daily treatment.

Secondly, you could get our fearful Congress members to understand that they are being turned into a bunch of powerless rubber stamp aristocrats - both Republcans and Democrats. You could let judges know that their powers are being transferred over to the executive branch and that their oversight role is being drastically reduced. The US media calls this "moving towards a unitary executive" while the rest of the world calls it a dictatorial coup and the dismantling of US democracy.

Third, don't allow the fear factor to get inside your head. Yes, this government is scary in that old totalitarian sense; eerily reminescent of a jovial smiling Stalin or an enraged screaming Hitler - but at least we know what's going on - been here before. Also, don't become like the bastards, with their sense of missonary zeal and their absolute certainty of moral and intellectual superiority. Also, raise as much hell as humanely possible.

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» RE: Just a few suggestions Posted by: owleyes
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» RE: Just a few suggestions Posted by: talkville
Rumsfeld wants to eat Iraqi children
Posted by: nbrown on May 24, 2006 9:35 AM   
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The Democrats are no better politically -- they support all the bombing and misery in Iraq too.

But isn't Rusfeld one scary looking dude? He's like the emperor from Star Wars, in a way.

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» RE: Coming Soon: Martial Law, Posted by: concerned Canadian
» RE: Coming Soon: Martial Law, Posted by: concerned Canadian
read orwell's 1984 again--WHY have the Two Minute hate?
Posted by: cry0fan on May 24, 2006 11:10 AM   
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The Two Minute Hate was to build group unity so that the group could work for the overclass.

When you work to oust Rumsfeld, Bushco, et al., all you are doing is GETTING THEM OUT! I got news for you--THAT AINT GONNA MUCH!

The dems just give LIP SERVICE to the real bread and butter issues--JUST LIKE THE PSEUDOLEFT MEDIA ORGANS DO! Just like Alternet, PBS, NPR, Mother Jones, DU, etc, just give lip service.

If all your own is just given over to the goal of ousting one group of evil powermad quasi-sociopaths, and then replacing them with another group of very similar evil powermad quasi-sociopaths, what the heck have you really accomplished? Nothing but further disillusion the electorate....

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Detention camps
Posted by: karihari on May 24, 2006 11:27 AM   
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Haliburton has been tasked to build detention camps for 5,000 in every state. Keep your toothbrush handy.

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UnAmerican? I only wish.
Posted by: axolotl_helix on May 24, 2006 11:37 AM   
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Call it unAmerican if that makes you feel better.

But a more thorough digging into the history of this nation- beneath all the mythology and cover stories and sugar-coated simplifications... and you'll see that what's going on now is what has been going on under the surface from the very beginning.

In a way this is just the most honest government to come along. Honest because they are putting the big lies right out in the open without even trying to cover them up. Directly, unapologetically channeling the evil that has been propping up our peaceful and prosperous society all along.

(Two words: nuclear fuckin' weapons, OK?)


Speaking of evil- just look at that picture of Rumsfeld. No, keep looking. Look closer. Look into his eyessssssss...
I'm serious, the man gets more evil-looking every day- his job is obviously having an effect on him. His only real competition for master of darkness is Darth Ratzinger.

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» RE: UnAmerican? I only wish. Posted by: talkville
I am not suprised.
Posted by: albiegf13 on May 24, 2006 2:11 PM   
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What else is new....? Do you think that the citizens give a shit about these shennanigans...? Really...? I hate to sound so jaded, perhaps I am, but ask me if I care... There is a new order that is dominating and coercive... Think, open your eyes... This is capitalism, this is it's objective. An efficient society producing wealth for the few who are willing to sell their souls, their honor, their very beings. It's a nightmare, for those who are playing the game. We talk about liberty and freedom, about privacy and the law. We the people elected our political leadership. We the people are responsible for them and their actions. You may think that they are evil, there's no such thing. They are a product of our culture, your culture and they are only doing what comes natural to them. They are acting exactly in accordance with our collective national agenda. If they are spying on me, so be it, I'm not alone, they are spying on you as well. Big deal...! What a waste of resources and man power... Imagine some mousy little clerk looking over my phone and e-mail records, it almost makes me feel important. The entire national dialouge is in distress. What have we become, a nation of fools....?

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» RE: I am not suprised. Posted by: weneedit
IF YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT AMERICA
Posted by: ebdotkom on May 24, 2006 3:19 PM   
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Ask any Native American.

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Dictators are representative of the Majority!
Posted by: Cathyc on May 24, 2006 4:21 PM   
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The Bushites could not strut their stuff if it weren't for the fact that they represent the MAJORITY of American citizens! Sad, but true.

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deaudonnee
Posted by: deaudonnee on May 24, 2006 4:28 PM   
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Military intelligence is a contradiction in terms.

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Where is the Lone Ranger when you need him?
Posted by: haddit on May 24, 2006 4:39 PM   
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It's starting to feel like there's no way out. I've been emailing my congressmen like crazy about impeachment. I think the problem is that we have to rely on one crook to go after another. Isn't there anyway to do this? Everytime I hear someone say "wait until November" it fries me! We can't keep waiting, and we sure can't afford another 3 years of these madmen. I'm not terrified of the terrorists, but I'm sure as hell terrified of this administration!

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» RE: "tomorrow has a chance" Posted by: peacefulaim
It will get worse before it gets better
Posted by: Gregor on May 24, 2006 4:51 PM   
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The more intelligent people read the signs, see the problems and think about what is happening. Then there is this group of people who really believe the current media, don't think they are being lied to and just go on with their daily lives. So until some of the many are being rounded up to serve in armies, to be in prisons to generally do what the state wants them to do, no one will care or protest. Look at our great model of Russia. People led their daily lives, albeit without a lot of life's necessities that made life worth living, and if you spoke out of turn, the KGB would just round you up, you would dissappear and then many of your neighbors would wonder where you went. But they really knew and would shudder. The US is entering that great chasm between ordinary people and the rich and powerful. Soon most of the American people will be a nation of slaves to the system. If you ask the average worker who worked in manufacturing they will say they already are slaves.

Your produce and goods will be the next thing to disappear as other countries will move against you and stop shipping things you value or have grown used to seeing on your shelves. What corporations don't see is that much of their actions are selfish and self-defeating and self-destructive.

It is better when you think of the whole as one planet, one people and create systems to that effect.

We will soon end up being like the third world countries we govern.

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Impeach these Hideoys Bardards Now
Posted by: glassyeyed4 on May 24, 2006 5:31 PM   
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We, the People, better wake up. If these people are not impeached prior tp thier terms ending, the United States as we once knew it is lost. This guy and his gang of Facist are turning us into a Police State that even after they are gone if we put thier kind back in office nothing will change. Stop talking and make our Government work for us, call, write letters, and vote.

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You are really, really good Tom
Posted by: HawkSpirit on May 24, 2006 8:53 PM   
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That is a really good idea.

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Big Brother (DHS) Is Here To Stay
Posted by: alex montanez on May 24, 2006 9:56 PM   
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They are currently working on thumb-print ID's, and retina scans, the move towards a cashless society.

http://www.operation2012.com/

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This article really informs
Posted by: nofearfactor on May 24, 2006 10:30 PM   
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As a Canadian the activities of Bush have "interested" me
more than any U.S. President in my 42 years on earth.

It seems the utilization of information surveillance by the
U.S. government are bringing on an East German style of
government where fully a third of the population was
"employeed" by the government to spy on others-anyone-
for anything.

The use of fear (the majority form of propaganda) to control
the U.S. people makes me sad, and I feel for progressives caught in the "web" of information ensnarement.

As someone who works with technology, I feel that there
has been a lockstep corellation between loss of freedoms
and the rise of "information technology"-which I believe is
nothing but spinspeak for techno-facism.

I do not believe government really needs to babysit me;
and personally I am quite able to provide my own security;
as I believe this is not the governments (any government)
job-nor do I believe they have the competency to do so.

the law of diminishing return for blah-blah-blah lies and
fear factor from Bush; has certainly raised the ire of some of
the other 5.5 billion people in this world who aren't U.S. citizens!

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» RE: This article really informs Posted by: talkville
reid vinette
Posted by: Counter Intelligence on May 25, 2006 1:14 AM   
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May 24, 2006

Russia and Iran Oil Burse - Getting even with the US.

As a US citizen and most likely to suffer from a drop in the American dollar, I cannot urge Russia and Iran to start selling oil in Euros and Rubles as soon as possible.

It is an unfortunate fact of life that the US Government is so completely out of control in the world today. The current US Administration is so belligerent and disrespectful to other countries of the world that I feel a complete collapse of its economic system would be the jolt needed to begin the changes necessary to fix this country's broken democracy.

For months, I believed there was an energy crises, which was causing the current US Administration to behave so irrationally. First they destroy the World Trade Center Towers and attack the Pentagon to blame foreign terrorists to justify an attack, invasion, and occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq. Now Iran is in the cross hairs. To be sure the world is now at Peak Oil and oil reserves are now in decline. But there is no energy crises.

Many hard working entrepreneurial Americans have invented amazing devices to split water into hydrogen gas and oxygen gas for combustion in an internal combustion engine. Their excitement to save their country from an energy crises has resulted in either their deaths or being paid to bury their devices. It's a crime beyond contempt.

Why?

Because the oil companies control the White house and US government policy. US government policy, the US military, and the public US treasury are at the disposal of the US oil companies to secure more oil rich areas of the world, which they can exploit for their personal gain.

The US government does not work for its people. Is not responsible to the American people. Does not care about the American people nor other people of the world.
The US Government only cares about ensuring that its benefactors the US oil companies continue to have a product to sell to earn billions of dollars, irregardless of the damage this product does to the environment.
(co2 gas and greenhouse warming)

This is the price of a capitalistic system, which is now severely broken. When a government does not have the best interests of i