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The Constitution Does Not Apply

By Molly Ivins, AlterNet. Posted December 22, 2005.


Bush is not above the law, so why is he acting like a God-appointed king?
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Uh-oh. Excuse me. I'm so sorry, but we are having a constitutional crisis. I know the timing couldn't be worse. Right in the middle of the wrapping paper, the gingerbread and the whole shebang, a tiny honest-to-goodness constitutional crisis.

Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country: Damn the inconvenience, full speed ahead. On his own, without consulting the Congress, the courts or the people, the president decided to use secret branches of government to spy on the American people. He is, of course, using 9-11 to justify his actions in this, as he does for everything else -- 9-11 happened so the Constitution does not apply, 9-11 happened so there is no separation of powers, 9-11 happened so 200 years of experience curbing the executive power of government is something we can now overlook.

That the president of the United States unconstitutionally usurped power is not in dispute. He and his attorney general, Alberto Gonzales, both claim he has the right to do so on account of he is the president.

Let's try this again. The president is not above the law. I wish I thought I were being too pompous about this, but the greatest danger to our freedom always comes when we are scared or distracted -- and right now, we are both.

As an ACLU liberal, I would like to say how proud and honored I am to stand with so many American conservatives on this issue. You do credit to all your heroes. Barry Goldwater would be so proud.

One of the more annoying things about this usurpation of power is that it is both stupid and unnecessary. As large numbers of people have pointed out, it takes almost nothing to get a warrant to do what Bush has been doing illegally -- it's almost pro forma.

Here is a curious fact about the government of this country spying on its citizens: It always goes wrong immediately. For some reason, it's not as though we start with people anyone would regard as suspicious and then somehow slip gradually into spying on the Girl Scouts. We get it wrong from the beginning every time. Never seem to be able to distinguish between a terrorist and a vegetarian.

The Department of Defense has just proved this yet again with its latest folly of mistaking a flock of Florida Quakers for a threat to overthrow the government. A few months ago, a student at the University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth tried to check out a copy of Mao's "Little Red Book" and wound up being interviewed by two feds. Cointelpro and all those misbegotten Nixon-era spy programs were always making ludicrous mistakes.

The usual suspects, like that silly congressman Dan Burton, solemnly try to scare us with the dread specter of war, as though they alone are the hard-headed pragmatists, while only woolly minded liberals care about the Constitution. "Don't these people realize we're at war?" Well, yes. Why that justifies treating Unitarians like Islamofascists is beyond me.

This is the same pattern we have seen with Bush when it came to the Geneva Conventions for handling prisoners and to using torture. Not only does he consider himself above the law, he has surrounded himself with people who keep inventing perverse readings of the Constitution to justify him. Makes it especially nice to hear him go on about the importance of bringing democracy to Iraq.

Bush defended his actions Monday by saying it was part of "connecting the dots." A painful moment, since the 9-11 Commission just finished giving this administration grades of D and F in terms of preventing another terrorist attack -- and it has jack-all to do with wiretapping. This administration has cried wolf so many times using the national security excuse it has lost all credibility.

Bush just could not resist that especially nasty little fillip at the end: blaming the people who reported the problem. As though the sin were telling the people of this country what is happening, what is being done in our name with our money, as though we have no right to know.

From my point of view, Bush has made one terrible decision after another concerning national security, from how Homeland Security money was spent to attacking Iraq. The New York Times is not responsible.

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Molly Ivins writes about politics, Texas and other bizarre happenings.

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Agree 99.9 %
Posted by: Lincoln fan on Dec 22, 2005 9:58 AM   
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I beg to differ about the culpability of the New York Times. Had this crime been reported when it was first discovered we might, right now, for better or worse, have a different president. When the Times sat on this story they became an an accomplice.

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» RE: Agree 99.9 %/I beg to differ Posted by: Samantha Vimes
» RE: Agree 99.9 %/I beg to differ Posted by: Lincoln fan
» RE: Agree 99.9 % - not so fast! Posted by: Lincoln fan
You should spend more time studying history
Posted by: popsicle67 on Dec 22, 2005 11:05 AM   
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This is neither the first or the worst president for trampling on civil rights. Does anybody remember putting Americans in concentration camps because of their heritage. I think that was approved by your favorite president. What about everything LBJ did to stifle free press and speech during his presidency. Short memories are easily cured, just read,I did.

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Recall?
Posted by: shortpantz on Dec 22, 2005 12:35 PM   
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I always hear the word "Impeach" when we talk about removing a President from office for these kinds of illegal or shady dealings. But, as they did in California, can't we have a recall election for a President?

The Constitution says we have the right to change our governing body when it is not fulfilling its mission to the people. Isn't it time we made ouselves heard and make the change before our country gets any farther along in this mess than we are?

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» RE: ecall? Posted by: GeoffW
» But... But... Posted by: ~Fiona~
» RE: ecall-Thanks? Posted by: shortpantz
» RE: Recall? Posted by: IndyElliott
» RE: ecall? Posted by: fred_53_99
WHERE IS DANIEL ELLSBERG AND NEIL SHEEHAN WHEN WE NEED THEM?
Posted by: Bushhater on Dec 22, 2005 4:39 PM   
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The NY Times sat on the illegal NSA spying for a year, accepting the word of these lying bastards that claimed national security is at stake? That was the SAME lame-ass excuse the gov't used to try to stop publication of the Pentagon Papers. If the NY Times showed the same guts as in 1971, we might have been rid of this Bushitler fascist pig a year ago instead of f*cking-over the American people and the world for another 4 years. The breadth and width of the dishonesty and illegal abuse of power of this administration would even make Richard Nixon gasp with envy.

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I'm sure
Posted by: WhatNow? on Dec 22, 2005 5:25 PM   
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Molly can do much better than bush. She probably prefers a man with some intellect. I constantly wonder how laura could want such a sleazy and mean spirited criminal like bush.

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» RE: I'm sure, me too Posted by: ShaSpirit
» RE: I'm sure Posted by: Envi
Bush already tore up the constitution
Posted by: SDres11 on Dec 22, 2005 8:20 PM   
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http://www.moderateindependent.com/v3i6democracy.htm

http://www.moderateindependent.com/v3i6demrep.htm

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LET'S ALSO CALL THEM WHAT THEY ARE:
Posted by: bohdan on Dec 22, 2005 10:32 PM   
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"...My administration will be an open administration, ... not even a hint of impropriety,... I'm a uniter not a divider." these are the words by which George Bush campaigned. And the Truth --- was left behind in another time, only to be forgotten or misaligned in our time.

Perhaps the news organizations should think about calling an untruth what it really is --- a lie! And those who say such things should perhaps be called what they are --- LIARS!.

All too often we hear misshapen "facts" and figures bandied about by The Republican Party and their bullying "commentators" and presented as truths backing any kind of absurdity for the powers that rule.

We are truly living in the land of bullies --- and liars, who hide behind the skirts of power.

That is the truth by which we live and refuse to correct.

bohdan yuri

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The timing of the Times
Posted by: TKO on Dec 22, 2005 10:40 PM   
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I would wager my house and everything else I have that the story of Bush spying on Americans was released when it was because Shrub asked for the story to be withheld until after the election in Iraq. The Shrublicans were under the impression that the election would overshadow Shrub's latest act of treason.

Constitutional Crisis is absolutely right however. Where do you start? Two crooked elections, an illegitimate war, torture, and on and on. This should be called the "Scandal A Week Administration". We absolutely have to get that refried dog turd out of the White House before he starts a war with someone else or stages a national disaster (he is a national disaster) as an excuse to impose martial law before any future elections. Our Constitution and everything the people that wrote it or the Declaration of Independence intended will soon be gone. King George will be here. He is the law, just ask him.

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Molly, you misjudge Geo.
Posted by: vespasian01 on Dec 23, 2005 12:05 AM   
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First I want to apologize for the mutt who insinuated you had dated our esteemed leader. Just the same, I find you rather attractive. But to get down to nuts and nukuler nightmares, George doesn't really believe he's a King. That would be, you know, crazy. He is simply behaving in a manner respectful of the intelligence of the voters.

Remember the saying in Crawford: the price of cashews is going up but deer nuts will always be under a buck.

~Duck..and Cover

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» RE: Molly, you misjudge Geo. Posted by: Samantha Vimes
» RE: Fascism, si! Bush, NO! Posted by: vespasian01
» RE: Molly, you misjudge Geo. Posted by: ntisuzi
the end of democracy
Posted by: Germanicus on Dec 23, 2005 1:30 AM   
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Dear Molly,

I think that comment about your dating habits simply means that you are getting under their skin. Karl Rove has called out his rat-f***ers (and this not even an election year - you should be flattered) to begin attacking you personally.
But that is beside the point.

What I would like to call everyone's attention to are comments reported in the LATimes that were made by that other bulwark of Constitutional liberties, our Dick-in-Chief VP Cheney, to reporters aboard Air Force 2.

"Watergate and a lot of the things around Watergate and Vietnam, both during the 1970s, served, I think, to erode the authority I think the president needs to be effective, especially in the national security area... Especially in the day and age we live in … the president of the United States needs to have his constitutional powers unimpaired, if you will, in terms of the conduct of national security policy."

Here is the link to the article on Truthout


I read this as a smoking gun that can be used to justify the impeachment of the President and the Vice-President. He essentially says here that they violated the law because the law did not agree with their ideas on the limits of executive authority.

They feel that the president should be able to exercise unfettered power in the prosecution of the war on terror. They claim that their actions are constitutional and legal. And yet if they are right, why is it that virtually everyone who does not have a direct stake in the perpetuation of one-party rule in this country believe otherwise? And why did they work so hard to conceal it? Osama probably knows that when he rings his family in the states there is a strong chance that the government will be listening.

I mean, who are they trying to fool...?

Respectfully yours from the borders of the Empire,

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» RE: the end of democracy Posted by: Tom Degan
» RE: the end of democracy Posted by: vespasian01
try this link
Posted by: TKO on Dec 23, 2005 1:40 AM   
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I tried your link and it didn't work. Here it is Truthout article on dickhead Cheney Hope you don't mind.

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» RE: try this link Posted by: Germanicus
I'm loving this
Posted by: Tom Degan on Dec 23, 2005 3:39 AM   
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Here's the deal: One thing you've got to say about this administration, although they're not famous for learning from their mistakes, they at least learned from one. When they got busted for spying without a warrant, someone in the White House must have said, "Well, heck, we can't have TWO cover ups going on at the same time". "Two" actually is a conservative esimate. There are probably hundreds going on but I'm trying to keep this as simple as possible.

They also learned that, as in the case of Scooter Libby, it's the cover up that get's you in the most trouble. For the first 48 hours after the story broke there was silence from the oval offilce. Damn right. Panic within - of this I have no doubt. What to do? Come out and admit it. Tell the voters of the country who were, after all, stupid enough to re-elect them THAT WE DID IT FOR YOUR OWN GOOD! 911! 911! 911! 911! It works every time!

Sure enough....

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY

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Great Expectations.
Posted by: Lincoln fan on Dec 23, 2005 5:51 AM   
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I think that people who oppose the president are hanging their hats on a shaky hook if they expect the President to be impeached. People who are afraid of terrorists will think that he was heroic to risk his presidency to protect them. Many people admire his swaggering cowboy shoot from the hip image as the prototypical American. He will be more popular than ever to these people. Do you remember Oliver North?

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So What Are We The People Going To Do?
Posted by: Riverside on Dec 23, 2005 6:49 AM   
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The 2006 election season is open. Now is the time to begin the process of reviving this great nation.

We the people, not special interests, big business, or slick and slimey lobbyists must be the ones that set the agenda and deliver it to the candidates. If we are Dems we need to clean out both the deadwood and those who sold themselves to the highest bidder. If we are Repubs, we need to thank the backbone of the Republican party for fighting to save this nation. For those other Repubs who also got bought we need to excavate them from Congress.

In all cases we must think and support a full two-party system. We need the issues debated not bought and sold or slid in as night riders. We can have this only if we have true legislative representation by both parties.

Finally we need to reaquaint all with the word Integrity and its meaning. We also need to make it a demand and a criterion for election. With integrity comes TRUST and with TRUST comes a government for and by the people.

Okay, I will stop, but first, ask yourself this: "Do I love these United States and all they stand for here and around the world?" If your answer is "yes", then don't fall asleep reach out right now to your neighbor, your boss, your wife, your kids, your postman, etc and ask them the same question. They will mostly all say yes. So lets all take that first step, right now.

Do I love these United States? You know what to do, when you say yes. So lets get with it, NOW.

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Yeah well I don't think we're gonna make it to '08
Posted by: Iconoclast421 on Dec 23, 2005 7:25 AM   
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so that makes bashing on Bush awfully important I think.

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RE: It looks like after 2008...
Posted by: Pepper on Dec 23, 2005 7:40 AM   
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Soooooo, "Mr. Dude", you don't like women, huh? That is what you just told us with this intellectually barren post to this article. Molly has more balls than you obviously do. Maybe that is why Bush wouldn't date her, she is too much woman for him. After all, he couldn't abuse, knock down or otherwise intimidate her like he does his other women on his staff. LOL

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Directions For War.
Posted by: R.I.P. on Dec 23, 2005 7:42 AM   
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"Naturally the common people don't want war....but after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country." - Herman Goring-

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» RE: Directions For War. Posted by: MTguy
» RE: Directions For War. Posted by: R.I.P.
» RE: Directions For War. Posted by: gonzoskismet
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RE: It looks like after 2008...
Posted by: Skipper on Dec 23, 2005 7:45 AM   
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You mean like Ann Coulter, who can't open her mouth without uttering the name of Clinton? And that goes pretty much for the rest of the Republican talking heads. If I've heard, "well, even Clinton thought...or even Clinton said..." one time, I've heard it a thousand! I always want to interject, "but surely you aren't putting faith in a man who lied, for God's sake!!!"

At least Molly here is dealing with the here and now, and her criticism is a reaction to documented misdeeds, as opposed to Coulter, funded by the American Enterprise Warmakers, who just calls names and snickers like her juvenile Bushgod.

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So what's the real reason for spying on Americans?
Posted by: Skipper on Dec 23, 2005 8:13 AM   
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The first reason that comes to mind of course, is spying on political opponents. And why not go to a court for warrants? Because there would be a paper trail of who was spied on, if in fact a judge was stupid enough to issue a warrant for, say the Democratic Party.

But the thing that concerns me the most is the way clones were created during the past election process, saying in large part what the ignorant public wanted to hear. And we thought this info was gained through polls or intuition, or as the bulk of people actually believed, that the clones held the same views as they.

How much easier the job would be, if one wanted to tailor-make candidates that would appeal to the masses, if you didn't even have to bother with those pesky polls? If you know what people read, and you know what people write, you have a pretty good idea of what people think. If you know what people think, it's really quite simple to create a puppet to spout those thoughts. Hence, the real danger of databases as I see it. You don't need to control the mind if you can control the behavior. It's a Rove twist on an old idea.

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"It's Beginning To Feel A Lot Like Nix-on, All the Live-Long Days..."
Posted by: monkeywrench on Dec 23, 2005 9:28 AM   
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From Molly:
"One of the more annoying things about this usurpation of power is that it is both stupid and unnecessary."

Well, maybe not. Disregarding that the Bush administration itself is stupid and unnecessary, they may have gone around the law both because of imperial hubris and because the spying they intended to do would have been rejected outright by the FISA court – like spying on peace groups, opponents in the 2002 mid-term elections and the 2004 Kerry presidential campaign. I sincerely hope that somebody is looking into this possibility (hello! call for Mr. Fitzgerald!).

I believe we are witnessing a replay of Watergate – minus the kind of investigative reporting that could remind us that we in fact still have a Constitution and not a king.

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clinker
Posted by: cottontail on Dec 23, 2005 9:34 AM   
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Molly's right of course, but what the hell can be done about it. Will he stop breaking laws? No. Will he continue to do as he damn pleases? Yes. Is this corrupt Congress capable of reining him in? No. Will this brain-dead electorate stop him? Hell no. He's declared himself a war president and said, "The constitution is just a goddamned piece of paper." It's not too hard to figure out why he's still in the White House
(think Cheney, Hastert, Stevens, in that order). Don't pray but just hope what's left of our democracy will survive the next 3 years.

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» RE: clinker Posted by: jefhadist
» RE: clinker Posted by: ALANHESTER
FAT MAN FOR PRESIDENT!
Posted by: bogtrotters on Dec 23, 2005 10:40 AM   
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Let's see--we impeach Bush, then Cheney--or both of 'em simultaneously, so as to avoid W. appointing a new Veep--that leaves us with...

SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE DENNIS HASTERT! Former WRESTLER Dennis Hastert!

...We could start a grassroots FAT MAN FOR PRESIDENT movement! It could sweep the land! We need a theme song! Granted, he'd be a terrible president, but he'd be a great WWF tag-team partner for Ariel Sharon!

Bush and Cheney could retire to Guantanamo?

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» RE: FAT MAN FOR PRESIDENT! Posted by: Riverside
RE: It looks like after 2008...
Posted by: munchkinpup on Dec 23, 2005 10:50 AM   
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Why don't you move to a different country or how about planet?? You obviously do not care about the one you are living in. I'm sooooooooooo sick of pinheads with IQ's under 70 such as yourself pretending that the Bushies are doing "NOTHING WRONG??????!!!!!!"
Go have some eggnog and don't waste your time on Alternet.

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» RE: It looks like after 2008... Posted by: gonzoskismet
Personal attacks, name calling and straw man tactics...Oh My!
Posted by: thedude on Dec 23, 2005 11:53 AM   
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I knew this would happen. You people are so predictable it's hilarious! make one little criticism about someone you all put on a pedastle and you come attacking with the personal attacks by questioning my intelligence (FYI: I graduated at the top of my class from University of Hawaii), calling me names (Which I did not do. Guess I took the high road on that one!) and by using the same tactic you criticize the right wing of doing, the all famous "If You Don't Like It Here, Then Leave!" argument.
Look, all I said is that Molly Ivins seems to have this fixation on George W. Bush. I say that because every article she has written since the 2000 election has been about him. Even if she writes about some other Republican, she brings it right back to our President. If you disagree, PROVE ME WRONG!!
Provide links to articles she has written that don't talk about President Bush.
But if all you can do is call names and make personal attacks, all you are doing is lowering yourself to the same standard as the juvenile delinquents who throw things at Republican speakers and try to drown them out by shouting during speeches. In other words, I am exercising my right to free speech. So don't try to oppress me. Engage me in debate, but at least use your brain and form some sort of actual statement!

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» RE: Hawaii has a University? No shit? Posted by: Againstthewindwalking
Personal attacks, name calling and straw man tactics...Oh My!
Posted by: Germanicus on Dec 23, 2005 1:04 PM   
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ho-hum

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Letting Them Stew in their own juice may be better than Impeachment
Posted by: Cosmo on Dec 23, 2005 7:45 PM   
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The question really before us is how can we discredit the neocon con so badly it cannot recover? We are lucky they aren't that slick. The longer they are in power, the more ridiculous they look. The 52% that voted against Bush in 2004 don't need convincing. It's a significant portion of the other 48% especially in primitive places where paperless e-voting and evangelicals believe they are doing right by keeping these corrupt cronies in office robbing us blind. A significant number of these folks don't trust the "gummint" and wanted to believe Newt when he said the Repubs would stop the 'special interests'.

Well, now the "special interests" are 10x more powerful than they were in 1994. But it takes a long time for folks who don't want to pay attention to get really ticked off. But it is happening.

If we go for a quick fix with an impeachment, we will wind up where we were after Nixon. The interesting part is what does Bush do to keep this charade going? Engineer another terrorist attack? (sorry, I'm not saying that forces within the govt caused 9/11, but did they 'let it happen?' Gotta admit it was awfully convenient. They are going to need to scare us all again to maintain control. Better have your camcorders rolling and your blogs open.

While Americans may be distracted, busy, and self-involved, we are really mean when we get riled up. We better start the Orange Revolution (i.e. Wear Orange like they did in the Ukraine when their election was stolen). We need a safety valve ahead of a violent uprising, which actually would be scary and usher in a police state pushed by Bush's 'haves' and 'have mores'. Better to get ahead of this so we can keep some semblance of our freedoms.

Meanwhile, vote against Repubs in 2006, so we can at least slow down the damage and perhaps reverse some of it. At least DeLay and Frist have been somewhat neutralized.
But let Bush be Bush until it is obvious to every kid in the country that a neocon President doesn't protect our Constitution. A President who is a laughing stock can't rule.

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write to congress
Posted by: liberalibrarian on Dec 24, 2005 12:23 AM   
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Write to congress. Write to the national parties. Write letters to the editors. Do not let up until investigations are underway and bipartisan legal action is going full force.
By the way--Dear President Bush: I am a Unitarian. If you care to monitor my phones you'll have to get a court fr****ing order. Or I could just give you my number: *** *** ****. Oh, sorry, it's in code.

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WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO
Posted by: jimsenter on Dec 24, 2005 2:17 AM   
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We know Bush broke the law. We know he has acted with contetmpt for the constitution, the American people and the rule of law from the day he was selected. We know he needs to be impeached. Enough of this yack yack. When are we going to get out on the street and do what we know needs to be done? If we have lost courage, if we think that democracy is merely about elections, then we don't deserve to hold onto it.

DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER
TO HELL WITH KING GEORGE
IMPEACHMENT NOW

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Proof Positive
Posted by: gonzoskismet on Dec 24, 2005 6:05 AM   
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Ladies and gentlemen, this just proves a point which is: The blindfold over the statue of Lady Justice's eyes doesn't mean that she is blind. In America, it means she is embarrassed!

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Is anyone here aware that the "Little Red Book" story is a hoax and it never happened?
Posted by: Lloyd227 on Dec 24, 2005 8:30 AM   
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Federal agents'
visit was a hoax
Student admits he lied about Mao book
By AARON NICODEMUS, Standard-Times staff writer


NEW BEDFORD -- The UMass Dartmouth student who claimed to have been visited by
Homeland Security agents over his request for "The Little Red Book" by Mao
Zedong has admitted to making up the entire story.

The 22-year-old student tearfully admitted he made the story up to his history
professor, Dr. Brian Glyn Williams, and his parents, after being confronted with
the inconsistencies in his account.

Had the student stuck to his original story, it might never have been proved
false.

But on Thursday, when the student told his tale in the office of UMass Dartmouth
professor Dr. Robert Pontbriand to Dr. Williams, Dr. Pontbriand, university
spokesman John Hoey and The Standard-Times, the student added new details.

The agents had returned, the student said, just last night. The two agents, the
student, his parents and the student's uncle all signed confidentiality
agreements, he claimed, to put an end to the matter.
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Dear President Bush,
Posted by: Againstthewindwalking on Dec 24, 2005 6:55 PM   
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Dear President Bush,

You don't know me. I like it that way! I do not want to shoot you or blow up the White House. I'm just a poor but honest liberal using my God -given right to rag your ass untill I get tired of it, and it doesn't look like I'm getting tired any time soon!

Please don't bug my "phone because all you will hear is the buzz and click of my dial-up conection and my 16 year old son's conversation with his friends which I don't understand and I'm pretty sure you wouldn't either! In fact, it's my opinion that listening to them would push you even further to the edge than you already are now and that just can't be good for the country!

No you can't havce my email adress! I've got enough spam as it is!

Now go play with Jeb and his imaginary friend and stop being such a nosey-ass prick!

No! There are no little striped men living in the ice maker.

No, Sun Yung Moon isn't King Of The World. Neither are you! I don't care if you want to be! You aren't! Get over it!

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Little Illinois
Posted by: LittleIllinois on Dec 25, 2005 3:57 AM   
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I say, If democracy is good enough for Iraq , then, by God, it oughta be good enough for America, too. So, "Bring it on!" Sounds like a bumper sticker to me! And if Cheney distrusts our commitment, come drop some of our multi-million dollar bombs here at home where it'll do some good. That's what you're gonna do anyway.
Little Illinois

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No more shirts and skins
Posted by: Lause on Dec 25, 2005 12:50 PM   
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No more corporate intramural games of shirts and skins. This country and this world has suffered enough from the absence of any opposition party in American politics. The Republicans impeached Clinton for oral sex in the Oval Office. The Democrats have looked the other way on this guy for six years. They ran on a "me-too" platform in 2000, won, and gave this guy the presidency because the Republicans insisted on it. Then, the Democrats ran even more of a "me-too" campaign in 2004. Who can be surprised if they have supported every atrocity imposed by King George.

Part of the blame belongs to the "progressive," "liberal" voters who cast their me-too ballots and engaged in ever kind of slander against those who wouldn't goosestep with them behind Mr. Kerry, who was goostepping behind Mr. Bush. And it is stinking dishonesty to complain about the staggering shortcomings of democracy anywhere in the world, when the Democrats took the most putrid measures to exclude Nader, Cobb and other alternatives. Shame on the lot of them!

In the end, you got the government they said they were going to give you.

Learn from your mistakes, people. And let's do better next time.

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new sources of leadership
Posted by: vespasian01 on Dec 26, 2005 11:34 PM   
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Dude, God bless ya, you surely are welcome, at least by me, to express strong opinions. Although, as a libertarian, I don't fit easily into Party niches, I have to tell you your (seeming) support of Bush policies seem unlikely, coming from a man with good analytical abilities, such as yourself. Mr. Bush knows little about world cultures, as far as I can tell, and possesses a similar lack of (mil)strategy-related acumen. Let me put it this way: we could round-up a couple dozen vagrants at random and pay them a fin apiece to crankoff into a swimming pool filled with fertile young women from a local shopping mall. The offspring generated from this disturbing encounter would, in liklihood, grow up to be potential leaders far more kind in nature and interested in creative goals for the world than the leader you admire.

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The Constitution DOES APPLY,only if you LIVE IT
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Dec 27, 2005 7:31 AM   
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Freedom and Liberty may be ours by birth but you have to actually 'LIVE IT' to make it work. Today most of our Fredom and Liberty are held in the hands of the few. These are the People's Rights. Not just the privileged class.All you need do to see the inequities of the law is sit in a court room and observe the doings. If you have money enough to pay any fine,you get breezed. If you are low income you get the shaft. This is FAR from equitable under law of the land,The Constitution. You have to standup People, for yourself,your families,the people who have no voice,for your life.

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Why Molly has a severe heartburn about Bush.
Posted by: Conan the Younger on Dec 27, 2005 2:54 PM   
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While Molly is based in CA now, she was in Texas as Bush made the climb up the political ladder in Texas. I am in Texas and had a close view of Bush's corrupt start in politics as the "manager" of the Texas Rangers baseball team. Molly has watched this pipsqueak turn into a real political threat as governor of Texas. If you want to know where he is leading the US, just check out what condition he left Texas in when he became POTUS. He had supported so many tax cuts for the wealthiest 5% that Texas came close to bankruptcy, still cannot pay for its public educations system, its highway system is crumbling because the state cannot match federal highway funding grants, etc. But the wealthiest 5% are doing great because they control the entire political system and the economic system of Texas. The rest of us are living on the crumbs. And Molly watched all of this, up close and personal.

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Reconsider your constitution
Posted by: mick on Dec 28, 2005 8:58 AM   
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Watching events evolve around your King George I ask myself why nobody asks a very simple question. You must have a lot of the famous "checks and balances" if you want to control a president who has much more power than every other elected president or prime minister in the world. That might be understandable, historically.

The US democracy came into being before the French Revolution liberated the slaves and got rid of absolute monarchs the hard way. Sometimes I think the so-called "Founding Fathers" did not mean it too seriously, when I try to imagine how Jefferson and Washington, after delivering a speech on freedom and democracy, went home to their clandestine black slave mistresses. They seemed to have a more "pragmatic" (if you want to express it more politely) stand on some issues.

Now if you see that there are people in the highest places who disregard the constitution why not try to curb their power, so that they cannot do too much harm in the first place? After more than 200 years and some very bad experiences this could be a good idea, couldn't it?

Michael

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What Do You Do when the Government Breaks the Law?
Posted by: JohnW on Dec 28, 2005 1:39 PM   
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I had heard it just like everyone else did. But, I found it hard to believe. Did Bush actually say he had authorized surveillance on Americans in violation of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) in that he didn’t even obtain a Warrant to perform this surveillance? Incredible! What did he think he was doing, -- or was he thinking at all (was Cheney was doing the thinking for him, as usual)?

The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act provides for a secret court where the Government can obtain a warrant for this kind of surveillance quickly. These warrants have historically been obtained very easily by the Government. So it wasn’t even necessary to ignore the provisions of this law. I have been trying to be a good citizen and keep informed on the issues and vote in every election for a number of decades and this is the worst case of abuse of Presidential power I have ever witnessed. It is a principle of our legal system that nobody is above the law, not even, or especially, those in positions of power.

I really do not think we have any option here. It is simple and obvious. He broke a law which he easily could have obeyed. His protestations that it would have bee