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Here's what endangers our troops: greedy cretinous toad leaders who send them 12,000 miles away to a desert to fight a war based on lies. Not telling the press that you are disgusted by reports of torture.

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Scoundrel City

By Will Durst, AlterNet. Posted June 23, 2005.


Here's what endangers our troops: greedy cretinous toad leaders who send them 12,000 miles away to a desert to fight a war based on lies. Not telling the press that you are disgusted by reports of torture.

"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel." Samuel Johnson

Okay, get this and get this straight. Criticizing our government is not the same as criticizing our armed forces. Okay? The same way that criticizing our government is not the same as criticizing our postal workers. Or criticizing our zoo keepers or our ceramic mosaic tile grout installers. And let me make this clear, I am not in anyway suggesting that any of these groups be criticized. Especially the postal workers.

Furthermore, telling the press that you are disgusted by reports of torture does not endanger our troops. You're all so fired-up desperate to know what endangers our troops; I'll tell you what endangers our troops. Greedy cretinous toad leaders who send them 12,000 miles away to a desert to fight a war based on lies. Lies about the threat and lies about a phantom desire to negotiate. That is what is responsible for putting our troops in harm's way. The idiots who sent them into this, and yes, its time to say it out loud, this quagmire.

Quagmire, as in bottomless morass. Quagmire, as in Vietnam. A minor conflict that tore our country apart about three decades ago. Perhaps some of you patriotic Republicans remember? I know none of you bothered to serve over there, but you must have have seen a History Channel special on it. Does the movie "Apocalypse Now" ring a bell?

Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi calls the Iraqi War a "grotesque mistake," and House Speaker Dennis Hastert reacts like she's funding secret poisonous kim-chee research in North Korea. "Leader Pelosi and the Democratic leadership should support our troops instead of spreading inflammatory statements." Hey, Hastert! Pay attention. The lady said absolutely nothing about our troops. She was talking about you, you moron, and the rest of the majority leadership. And trust me, I use the term "leadership" extremely loosely. For crum's sake, you pay enough for your polling, put the donut down and read some of it. Most of America agrees with Pelosi. Big fat enormous monstrous grotesque mistake. Repeat after me: "War: bad. Troops: good." See, it's possible to say and to mean as well.

What bowling ball cajones you must have to scream at Senator Durbin, the anti-torture dude, instead of the idiots who keep sending our troops over there without the proper equipment. You should be screaming at the over-inflated egos trying to take away benefits from those very same troops you're so protective of when they come home. It's like teaching the 9/11 terrorists a lesson by invading a country that had absolutely nothing to do with it. Oh, okay, I see. It's a pattern.

Are you saying its treasonous to denounce torture? Or do you mean to imply torture comes with codicils? "Torture is bad. Unless its us doing the torturing. In which case it is not torture, but rather 'results oriented questioning.'" Samuel Johnson was a piker. With these scoundrels, patriotism is not the last, but the first, second and every other refuge. The Republicans need to learn: more strident does not make you more correct. If it did, Joan Rivers would be running things.

Digg!

Will Durst is extremely happy that more strident does not mean more correct. Mostly because of the Joan Rivers thing.

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Too funny
Posted by: Michiganman on Jun 23, 2005 8:07 PM   
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Thanks Will, I can always use a good laugh! The situation is so absurd as to require comedy. Hey, maybe that's how we can reach 'em?

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» RE: Too funny Posted by: Rick
lorax
Posted by: la nina on Jun 23, 2005 8:29 PM   
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i don't see why you call em atoads. Toads love wetlands, hate cars and only kill what they eat. In your ire don't disparage nature too, you bloke.

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shovel=shovel
Posted by: Samantha Vimes on Jun 24, 2005 6:17 AM   
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That was a joy to read.

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» RE: shovel=shovel Posted by: SaraO
rubymydear
Posted by: rubymydear on Jun 24, 2005 10:30 AM   
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They're just using Joe McCarthy's playbook. Any time your questioned, change the subject and accuse simultaniously. As "Tail-Gunner Joe" found out, this strategy worked great until it didn't.

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Support the Troops
Posted by: treehuggingliberal on Jun 25, 2005 1:25 AM   
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As a soldier in this quagmire, I have to say that every time I have seen a "Support Our Troops" bumper sticker on a freakin' SUV I just want to RUN THEM OFF THE ROAD. Of course I have the same reaction when I see "W" stickers....Not prone to violence (yea, I know, I'm in the Army; I had a lot of student loans to pay off... Clinton was President...people still liked us) I just GLARE at them instead.

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» RE: Support the Troops Posted by: beatpunk
» RE: Support the Troops Posted by: nakis
I couldn't have said it better myself
Posted by: cmysticism on Jun 26, 2005 11:47 AM   
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Good article, Will. It's nice, for once, to see another liberal writer who isn't afraid to take Republican supporters of torture and American entitlement to task, rather than going out of your way to be "centrist" and trying to be concilatory with them, no matter how abominable the policies they support. Or to see you attacking other outspoken progressive critics for being "mean" instead of directing your ire at the mindless right-wingers who besmirch democracy and the people who stand up for it, every chance they get.
I personally consider the troops to be victims, not heroes, in the course of this war. Hence, I support them by supporting an end to the latest war for U.S. corporate dominance of the Middle East. These soldiers, like other poorly paid working class people anywhere in the world, have absolutely no stake in literally sweating blood for these greedy corporate power-mongers, and they are leaving the world no safer for their sacrifice.
Seeing how concilatory so many cowardly liberals have been to the ever-expanding right-wing power base over the past 25 years, your article was a major breath of fresh air, Will. Kudos to you for expending your energy in standing up for the true American principles and opposing those who support this insane, illegal, and destructive war, instead of expending it by lecturing Howard Dean about his alleged temper.

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Duh!!
Posted by: MausMasher on Jun 27, 2005 11:52 AM   
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Good view of the great fiasco..I remember a saying from when I was in the USAF in the 80's: The only difference between us(the military) and the Boy Scouts was, at least they(the BS) had Adult Leadership...

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America can't accept what is good for them
Posted by: HuckFinn on Jun 27, 2005 1:49 PM   
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I'll make this very short. Americans, inclduing myself, can not fathom the problems, long and short term, that face humanity. We bicker over the details, while both sides agrue that they are protecting humanity from the evils of the world, and probably both are right in their secluded, uninformed way. I say to the author, grow up and make a positive contribution to something....destruction is so easy, progress is hard and rife with huge mistakes along the path. Pick up a shovel, or hammer, or pen, gun, sword, etc and do something...your intentions mean nothing, if your actions are only to cause the water to muddy.

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» RE: America can't accept what is good for them Posted by: rbsherwin@yahoo.com