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Proof that Geithner's Bank Plan Is a Massive Giveaway to the Bastards Who Started This Mess

Posted by Joshua Holland, AlterNet at 1:17 PM on April 3, 2009.


Banks ”colluding to swap assets at inflated prices using taxpayers’ dollars.”

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Recall the Geithner Bank Plan in a nutshell: private investors will partner with the government to buy those "toxic" assets off of struggling "zombie banks." The buyers would put about 7 percent of the purchase price down, and the Treasury Department would match that with another 7 or so percent. Then the FDIC would offer government-backed loans for the remainder.

If the assets were to recover their value and turn a profit down the road, the investors would split the profits with the government. But if they don't -- if their values continue to tank, and it's entirely likely many will -- then you and I and everyone else we know who pays taxes will be on the hook for the lion's share of the losses.

In other words, we're letting bargain-hunters pick up the "troubled assets" that are burdening a number of financial institutions for pennies on the dollar, and limiting their downside risk if it doesn't turn out well. It's a pretty sweet deal for those investors. And, as I wrote when Geithner first announced the plan, it's also pretty much the definition of "moral hazard."

That background is important in order to understand just how incredibly infuriating this report from The Financial Times is:

US banks that have received government aid, including Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley and JPMorgan Chase, are considering buying toxic assets to be sold by rivals under the Treasury’s $1,000bn (£680bn) plan to revive the financial system.

The plans proved controversial, with critics charging that the government’s public-private partnership - which provide generous loans to investors - are intended to help banks sell, rather than acquire, troubled securities and loans.

[...]

Participating in the plan as a buyer could be complicated for Citi, which has suffered billions of dollars in writedowns on mortgage-backed assets and is about to cede a 36 per cent stake to the government.

Citi declined to comment. People close to the company said it was considering whether to take part in the plan as a seller, buyer or manager of the assets, but no decision had yet been taken.

[...]

Goldman and Morgan Stanley have large fund management units and have pledged to increase investments in distressed assets.

This week, John Mack, Morgan Stanley’s chief executive, told staff the bank was considering how to become “one of the firms that can buy these assets and package them where your clients will have access to them”.

Goldman and JPMorgan did not comment, but bankers said they were considering buying toxic assets.

Get it? We first pumped tens of billions of dollars into these institutions via the TARP, set up another program to aid them further by offering investors the opportunity to purchase the "shitpile" on their books with sweet federal subsidies, and they then turn around and now they're essentially going to buy the assets back with taxpayer-backed loans.

FT again:

Critics say that would leave the same amount of toxic assets in the system as before, but with the government now liable for most of the losses through its provision of non-recourse loans.

Administration officials reject the criticism because banking is part of a financial system, in which the owners of bank equity -- such as pension funds -- are the same entities that will be investing in toxic assets anyway. Seen this way, the plan simply helps to rearrange the location of these assets in the system in a way that is more transparent and acceptable to markets.

What mumbo-jumbo -- "banking is part of the financial system." Thanks, but there's a difference between pension funds and the financial institutions who have taken boatloads of public cash because they were deemed "too big to fail."

But the obviousness of Big Finance's rip-off may get in the way of its success. The Financial Times warns, "public opinion may not tolerate the idea of banks selling each other their bad assets ..."

And let's give a Republican who's trying to capitalize on that sentiment some rare credit around here ...

Spencer Bachus, the top Republican on the House financial services committee, vowed after being told of the plans by the FT to introduce legislation to stop financial institutions ”gaming the system to reap taxpayer-subsidized windfalls”.

Mr Bachus added it would mark ”a new level of absurdity” if financial institutions were ”colluding to swap assets at inflated prices using taxpayers’ dollars.”

Shocking but true: Spencer Bachus is 100 percent right.

PS: Make sure to catch this piece in today's WaPo about Giethner's own role in creating the financial meltdown.

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Joshua Holland is an editor and senior writer at AlterNet.


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RE: but you see joshua
Posted by: Joshua Holland on Apr 3, 2009 3:30 PM   
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I can't go with you on the desire to shoot 'em, but I'd certainly be down with some prison sentences for some of these guys.

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» only if Posted by: hurricane hugo
» RE: only if Posted by: Joshua Holland
» Yeah, that'd work Posted by: Joshua Holland
Let's treat 'em like GM
Posted by: hurricane hugo on Apr 3, 2009 3:48 PM   
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.

#@!

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the mass psychology of political passivity
Posted by: yantacaw on Apr 3, 2009 6:07 PM   
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It's been apparent for a very long time that a majority of Americans don't see themselves as the sovereigns of their own government.

Most Americans lack even elementary knowledge of civics, and so have only the vaguest idea of the role that their Constituion intended them to play in electing and overseeing their lawmaking representatives.

So it should suprise no one that when well-heeled, corrupt insiders -- who naturally fill the resulting political power vacuum created by a detached citizenry -- run the System into the ground out of greed and illicit manipulation, there remains no focused common-citizen voice able to analyze the resulting destruction -- nor, more importantly, any common vision of reform able to prevent repeated mistakes.

Hypnotized by and addicted to the belief that they live far better than anyone else on Earth, most Americans continue to buy into and support their own betrayal, both as political sovereigns and as creatures operating under Natural Law.

So that, when it comes time to fix the direst implosions efficiently-caused by a de facto, misgoverning plutocracy, the best most Americans can do is to complain (quite a feat for passive publicans, maybe): But never can they cognate or demand fair-minded, capitalist /democratic change.

Most Americans remain content to simply vote for the chimera of decent reform, as they did by voting for Obama.
But once a claptrapping pseudo-reformer like Obama proceedes to reward the plutocrats at the expense of justice and Reason, average Americans, as usual, can only return to their conforting hypnoses, to wit: We still live better than anyone else, even if our reformers proceed to rob us blind......

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Yep ... Now the Democrats are Ripping Us Off for the Banksters
Posted by: mmckinl on Apr 4, 2009 12:13 AM   
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Administration Seeking to Circumvent Restrictions Imposed on Bailout Recipients

From Naked Capitalism:

One of the disturbing trends of the financial crisis hasn't simply been the willy-nilly shifting of costs onto the taxpayer, even when there were investors in risk capital, aka bondholders and stockholders, who properly should take the hit first. As distressing is the repeated, flagrant disregard for the rule of law, starting with the Treasury Secretary being put outside the reach of the courts in his oversight of the TARP, the use of the Fed and FDIC to circumvent budgetary requirements, failure to resolve banks in danger of being insolvent as required under the law, and rampant signs of cronyism (for instance, participation in the legacy securities program being limited to a few large players).

In a further sign of an imperial Presidency in action, the Washington Post describes how the Obama administration is circumventing bailout legislation by channeling fund through various entities, then contending the the end recipients aren't subject to Congressional requirements. Huh?

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JH, you & Quannah
Posted by: weathered on Apr 4, 2009 3:15 AM   
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should run for political offices, Im as serious as surgery.

You've both got the right stuff and WE need it.


Please deshackle US from a toxic Congress and a dismantled election system(far too many "too close" to call races)re:Murphy/Tedesico/Franken....

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» By all means . . . Posted by: dustdevil
If Repugs Hate it I'm all for it!!
Posted by: Purple Girl on Apr 4, 2009 4:14 AM   
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After 30 yrs of the Treasonous 'Trickle Down' (Feudalsim)- whatever the Repugs hate, must be good for Americans.
You realize that is the same party who has been trying to drive Working Americans to their knees for decades- crushing Unions, blocking healthcare reform, creating Blood for Oil 'conflicts' to granted the Saudi's and their corp minions more oil fields. In fact they are the ones who Created AQ and Saddam.
Heres what is beginnning to annoy the shit out of me- I have yet to read an article by Any Economic Guru (even Krugman) which lays out a Step by Step alternative to what the Obama Admin is doing. Not Fucking One- Just alot of Bitch, moan and complaining- but no real concrete stratedgies. We are well aware of the Clusterfuck. In fact many of US has seen this inevitable 'long black Train' coming down the Tracks since the Puppet Ronny was used to unveil the Corp Monarhies 'Reaganomics'.
Here's what I think they don't want to tell US- All Our retirment funds were Gutted. They opened up those 'secure' investments via the rating agencies complicity and our 401k's, annuities and Pensions are gone. Now the admin is trying to shovel back in as much into these accts as fast as they can- covering those who are withdrawing from them now and hoping to God our economy picks up enough to at least give US back the money the Repugs 'modernization' legislation allowed Wall street to Pilfer.
think about it, The Repugs want to assure the Rich get richer and the poor remain poor and the more Working poor the Cheaper the Commodity of Labor gets- When you can't afford to retire, the market is flooded with labor, thus driving down the costs. Desperation is a great way to keep the cost of labor down and increase the profit margins.
so call me Jaded- but considering the long track record of Repugs and some of their covert Blue lap dogs- I'm guessing they want to assure WE have no funds to retire- thus retaining a 'supply side' cost cutting labor pool.
Of course there is no guarantee this effort to re stock those accounts will work- it's taken the Corp Whore 3 decades to clear the vaults and ultimately indenture Use by any and all means possible. We are not only up to our necks in debt through 'easy credit', we have no way of paying our way out of it except to keep working.
have you wondered why we have not been allowed to remove money from those Accounts to avoid this econommic meltdown- put some of that cash in our pockets now. It's not because they want to assure we all have cozy retirments in 20-30 yrs- it's because they are Gone.
So heres a few suggestions- Prosecute those Pocket politicians who worked so hard to appease their Corp overlords for the last 3 decades- and of course the heads of these corps.
Remove all essential commodities from the Casino gambling board (food, energy, consumer financing, healthcare, Military). Make those managed and controlled by the Federal Gov't- assure that it's citizens (bosses) have at least their baisc needs met- No more private for profits in these areas. Relgate Wall street to to wagering on Revelon vs Max Factor, Jim Beam vs Jack Daniels- shit that has NO reprecussions to the health and welfare of our Citizens or the Global community.
Freeze & Seize all assets of the High Rollers, their co conpirators in Public office, including their off shore accounts. Then Tax the Shit out of All Mulitnational Conglomerates, to be put into a 'rainly day' account so when they screw the shit out of a country- moving on to cheaper labor markets- there are funds to help those communities 'retool'. Reason Mexicos in a Cluster- Corps left Mexico high and dry for the cheaper labor markets of East Asia- so their back to selling drugs.These Corps leave human disasters in their wake.It's time they are held responsible for their Crimes against Humanity- Add that cost to the bottom line

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» Schummer/Fienstein laugh Posted by: weathered
tired of all this crap...
Posted by: ellie on Apr 4, 2009 5:17 AM   
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let the banks and financials drown in their own mess... no more $$... period!!!

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This is News?
Posted by: Man_vs_Kleptocracy on Apr 4, 2009 5:26 AM   
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It doesn't take a flashlight and a map to know what's been going down for the last decades plus. None of it is accidental and all of it made to enrich the super-privileged felons who created their corporate crime rule over the United States of Amnesia.

They say people get the leadership they deserve. Well, Obama and his predecessor were not "leaders". Like GW Bush, Obama is a follower. The lower life forms he is in thrall too are the worst humanity has to offer. They are the corporate pond scum that has broken America for the patsy nation it has resigned itself to be.

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Great. Encourage the bastards
Posted by: peterjkraus on Apr 4, 2009 7:59 AM   
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Encourage them to rip us off again: at least this time around, there's no bullshit about "arcane" products or "too sophisticated to understand". This is a pure and simple fraud. Now, if American taxpayers were too meek or dense to take to the streets while trillions were given to Bank of America and the like, maybe now they'll understand the extent and simplicity of the huge ripoff. And perhaps pick up a pitchfork or two.

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Too bad Geithner isn't black or half-black
Posted by: xbj on Apr 4, 2009 8:00 AM   
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Then you'd all be racists.

Surely you remember, like we were when we told you the truth about your Obama?

Either that, or you'd be lauding him as a genius no matter what crap he pulled or how much obfuscated, deflected, and broke promises and lied through his grinning teeth.

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» What a bizarre comment Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: What a bizarre response Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: What a bizarre response Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: What a bizarre response Posted by: Joshua Holland
» Yeah, what a prophet ... Posted by: Joshua Holland
» What an interesting exchange Posted by: Gregory Kruse
» Sweet irony Posted by: Joshua Holland
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» RE: Sweet habit Posted by: xbj
» RE: Sweet omission Posted by: xbj
» In summation Posted by: xbj
Here we go again . . .
Posted by: monkeywrench on Apr 4, 2009 8:54 AM   
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What Geithner is doing now is what Herbert Hoover tried in the early 1930's, only orders of magnatude larger in Geithner's case: prop up the banks while ignoring working people.

The result of trying to prop up the banks and ignore the people then was to turn a severe recession into a full-blown depression. There's no reason to believe the result won't be the same today (especially if GM is allowed to fail.)

(By the way; we're already seeing the modern equivalent of the 1930's "Hoovervilles" – "Bushbergs" – popping up in cities all across America.)

Our only hope is that the people do today what they did then to incoming president Franklin Roosevelt: make so much noise that he was compelled to create programs like the WPA to put people back to work. This is the only way we're going to get out of this mess; handing billions to the same pirates who have been stealing from us for eight years dooms America.

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» RE: Here we go again . . . Posted by: macdon1
another stooge
Posted by: maxloen on Apr 4, 2009 9:12 AM   
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Why is so hard for Tim Geithner to crack the slightest of smiles? Because the jerk suspects that in a few years (months, maybe) he will be held in the same Pantheon for Useful Asses, and derided and --hopefully-- spited(shoed?)-upon as that neocon lackey that was squatting in the White House, minus the protection of the Secret Service.

I bet he also knows that he will be unable to command any substantial speaker fees à la Larry Summers or Henry Kissinger, his so-called mentors but actually his trainers and carriers of the messages from the so called International Community.

Who know, maybe he can go work for Goldman Sachs in whatever form it rebirths; or better yet, back to Brooklin to work for Eric Mindich at Eton Park Edge Fund and try to be 'creative' again.

Just another impressionable youth at the service of the Smartos. (Click the Blue link to open a great parody for our current woes)

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I could be wrong, but....
Posted by: Sojourner on Apr 4, 2009 9:19 AM   
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...no mention anywhere that we, the taxpayer, are now stockholders and board members of the banks involved?

Maybe, and I only say maybe, that means we can now see publically what kind of operations banks get involved in?

Gaming the system is what modern capitalism, especially in these years of overwhelming complexity and volume, has been all about.

Even journalists do it, sometimes and Holland is usually the exception to this rule, when a bit of half-truth makes a story more sensational?

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» Nope. Posted by: Joshua Holland
Einstein said:
Posted by: TJColatrella on Apr 4, 2009 10:26 AM   
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"The problems that exist in the world, cannot be solved by the same level of thinking that created them..!"


See what I mean..?

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Essentially they are extending the CDS pyramid scheme
Posted by: leafsong1 on Apr 4, 2009 11:08 AM   
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by giving treasury-backed CDS's to the finance industry. The pockets of the US are not deep enough to cover the potential losses. The Fed is setting new records in over-leveraging their assets. We are in for a very bumpy ride.

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Why Banks Selling Toxic Asset must be Prohibited from Buying Toxic Assets
Posted by: Miachilany on Apr 4, 2009 11:30 AM   
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Am I missing something here or is the government really thinking about the possibility of letting banks who have gotten us into this mess, who have already loaded their balance sheets with a plethora of these toxic assets, become approved investors to load up their balance sheet with even more? One recent article in the the New York Posts states that two of the most distressed banks, Citi and BOA, are actively buying such assets now while the above FT article states that Goldman, Morgan Stanley, and JP Morgan are looking to participate as investors. It appears that the FDIC has enough common sense to prohibit a bank or any of its affiliates, SPE’s, etc., from bidding on that bank’s toxic assets. The conflicts of interest and gaming in this situation are obvious even for the ignorant and naïve like our government. However, no banks’ selling, or contemplating selling toxic assets should be able to bid on another portfolio of toxic assets. The gamesmanship should be obvious in this situation also. For example, CitiGroup’s Vikran Pandit runs into BOA’s Ken Lewis on the street and tells him, “gee Ken, I see you guys are selling $50 billion of Legacy Loans, what a coincidence, so are we. We both know our assets are probably worth about $15 billion each or about $30 billion combined, but guess what, if we bid $40 billion for each other’s assets or $80 billion combined (i.e., Citi bids BOA’s assets and vica versa), the government will fund $74 billion ($68 billion FDIC loan and $6 billion Treasury equity) and we only have to come up with $6 billion. Are you starting to catch my drift yet Kenny baby, wink, wink? We get a net $74 billion for assets worth $30 billion and we don’t even have to pay a penny on the FDIC non-recourse loan.” I see says Lewis, “instead of colluding to rip off bond investors, we’ll be colluding to rip off the US taxpayer $44 billion, God love America and the God love the FDIC Vikran.” And the bankers live happily ever after while the taxpayers gets screwed again.

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The Moral Hazard and Bad Credit Risk of FDIC High Leverage Financing
Posted by: Miachilany on Apr 4, 2009 11:53 AM   
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Although I basically agree with most of the terms of the government's Legacy Loan Program ("LLP"), including providing some financing to the PPIF’s, I am in strong disagreement with the “extremely high leverage” (up to 6:1 or 86% loan-to-cost) of the FDIC guaranteed non-recourse financing. The rest of the LLP actually makes decent economic sense although I have serious doubts that it will remedy the banks’ financial problems and / or bridge the significant bid - ask spreads between selling banks and investors (i.e., I think most of the seller / buyer delta is in expected recovery amounts and to a lesser extent the cost of capital / liquidity). However, the significantly over-market leverage at significantly under-market interest rates is bad credit risk and is a moral hazard for the following reasons:

1. This kind of aggressive debt financing is the exact same recklessness behavior that got us into this mess in the first place and will do nothing more than artificially re-inflate asset prices that need to come down to appropriate risk-return prices. Although there is currently little-to-no credit market for distressed debt financing, even in our drunken debt binge days there was never any distressed debt financing available at these aggressively proposed terms. Although I presume that the extremely high FDIC leverage is being offered to maximize TARP funds without having to go back to Congress for additional money, it is bad credit risk and economically unsound lending practices. For an economy that has seen “average” residential price declines of 30% and regional price declines of 50%+/-, a 14% equity cushion is clearly not sufficient in any stretch of the imagination.

2. Depending on the private investor’s equity interest (assuming 50% to 80% government ownership) and a 6:1 leverage ratio, the amount of investor capital would only be 3% to 7% of total capital, yet the investor will manage and control 100% of the assets. I could guaranty investor gamesmanship in fees / costs charged to the partnership, related party (favorable) transactions, and several other questionable practices that will ultimately minimize their true capital exposure in the deal. Thus, this capital structure does “not” align taxpayer interests with investors and is extremely advantageous to investors and selling banks. The investor will have very little capital investment and downside risk, motivating them to bid (bet) higher in return for a greater proportion of the upside potential. Coincidentally, in the real / non-FDIC world, an investor contributing 93%+ of the capital would generally get 93% of the profits, with a “promote” going to the minority managing partner if “over-performance” of the PPIF.

During the RTC era of the early 90's, government provided financing to similar PPIF’s approximated a 1.5:1 ratio (60% loan-to-cost) and last year Merrill Lynch sold approximately $30 billion of CDO’s to Lone Star at 22% and only took back 3:1 leverage “market rate” financing (note: Merrill was motivated to provide high leverage financing to get the price up in order to minimize their losses). Given an already under-market interest rate associated with an FDIC guaranteed loan, it would be incompetent and irresponsible to provide over-market leverage of 6:1. An appropriate leverage rate should probably approximate 1.5:1 (e.g., for land and construction loans) to no more than 3:1 (e.g., for completed cash flowing income producing properties) depending on collateral type and quality. Don’t be naïve, there is significant credit risk and moral hazard in financing distressed real estate debt at 6:1 and the aforementioned lower leverage provides a truly adequate cushion to taxpayers if values decrease more than expected. The FDIC is clearly not aligning taxpayer and investor interests and getting significantly under-compensated for the level of risk being undertaken.

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Aw Shut up...
Posted by: miles_ahead on Apr 4, 2009 12:44 PM   
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... if you ain't gonna do anything. Americans always showing righteous indignation. Let's see you take to the streets like Europeans do. Otherwise, STFU. I'm tired of your whining.

Same S%&*, Different Color
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A HALF ASSED CLEAN UP JOB
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Apr 4, 2009 2:37 PM   
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Any company receiving a dime of the taxpayers money shoud be required to fire its top five guys. No exceptions, no excuses. They are not 'part of the problem' they are the problem. This is done in other countries and is considered to be fair. ANNA

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How to Wake up the Damned Politicos
Posted by: macdon1 on Apr 4, 2009 3:07 PM   
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Make them all live in the tent city down the street from me in Sacramento for at least 3 months, making sure at least half of that is during the winter rainy season. Take away all their identification and anything that allows them special privileges and make them completely anonymous and subject to the same police harassment and public scorn as any other homeless person. Then,let them try to find housing here with no references, a spotty financial history and most likely a police record for being arrested for being homeless.
Maybe then they might understand just one iota of what Americans are experiencing every day. Of course no matter how long they spend on the street they could never understand the hopelessness of those who see no end in sight for their suffering...they would carry with them the hopeful knowledge that they had a life to go back to.

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And yet Obama is still hell bent on defending Geithner when he shouldn't be doing so.
Posted by: maxpayne on Apr 4, 2009 3:18 PM   
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16 years ago, Geithner wouldn't even be considered let alone confirmed. I'd replace Geithner with Ralph Nader if I were Obama.

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I'm irate and want to do something. Any suggestions?
Posted by: DJC11 on Apr 4, 2009 3:40 PM   
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Most of the individuals in government seem to be corrupt, so making my concerns and displeasures known to those elected and appointed officials seems to be a waste of time.

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Gorbachov
Posted by: Perry Logan on Apr 5, 2009 2:52 AM   
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Obama and Geithner are the only two guys in the world intent on fixing our broken financial system, which everyone else knows is unfixable.

Liberal Rapture notes that Obama is trying to be the Gorbachov for our financial system--when what we needed was another FDR, or at least a proper Democrat.

Even during the primaries, you could mount a fairly convincing case that Obama is essentially a neocon (voting for the Cheney energy bill was a huge tip-off).

Unless Obama starts moving leftward fast, we must admit the much-maligned PUMAs had it right all along. We picked the wrong candidate.

Let's not be like Republicans and spend the next four years denying our mistake.

Xe

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The Geithner Plan is just a little bit more subtle version of the old "trash for cash" from Bush era
Posted by: yellow on Apr 5, 2009 2:30 PM   
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The taxpayers are still taking on the biggest risk and expense of clearing the credit system of toxic waste. Geithner argues that it is cheaper and less risky than the nationalization alternative only because it basically leaves the banks in control and largely unregulated. Nationalization would also appropriate future earnings in the short term away from private shareholders. This is why it was avoided. The government is now taking a great risk for private sector gain with no guarantee of renewed bank lending. Nationalization may have been the better and more equitable option.

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WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING! NOW!!!
Posted by: warrior woman on Apr 5, 2009 3:39 PM   
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If the banks buy back the assets, what's the difference between this Ponzi scheme or Madoff's? NONE.

Please watch this interview of Bill Moyer's with William Black on the economy. Essentially, he tells us the big banks are broke and we're in a huge pickle. Obama has to own up rather than putting more of the same people in charge who put us in this fiasco. We must call for investigations and prosecutions as well before this spirals out of control, that is, if it's not already.

April 3, 2009 http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/
04032009/watch.html

Black mentions Ferdinand Pecora, the investigator during the Depression. Find information on him here: Where Is Our Ferdinand Pecora?
By RON CHERNOW http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/06/
opinion/06chernow.html
Published: January 5, 2009

Note also this historical document:
Inside the R.F.C. -An adventure in secrecy
By John T. (John Thomas) Flynn January 1933 http://www.harpers.org/archive/1933/01/0018414
"The Congress which now presides over the dying months of President Hoover’s administration will, let us hope, bring to an end that fatuous adventure in secrecy which has stained the record of the Reconstruction Finance Corporation. In the very act of its birth the R.F.C. was stricken dumb by the President. Thereafter for five months it passed round hundreds of millions of dollars of public money to banks and railroads without affording either to the public, or even to Congress itself, a grain of information about the identity of the objects of its bounty."

The characters have changed but the names are all the same.

Obama Adviser Paid Millions as Hedge Fund Director
Saturday 04 April 2009
by: | Visit article original @ The Associated Press http://www.truthout.org/040509Z
"Washington - Lawrence Summers, President Barack Obama's top economic adviser, earned millions over the past year as managing director of the hedge fund D.E. Shaw Group and through speaking fees, some from financial institutions now at the center of the government's rescue program.
Financial disclosure reports released by the White House show that Summers received $5.2 million from D.E. Shaw. He also reported payments for appearances before institutions such as J.P. Morgan, Citigroup, Goldman Sachs and Lehman Brothers.
Overall, Summers was paid $2.7 million for more than 40 appearances before different organizations and companies, including financial institutions."

Sen. Bernie Sanders put a hold on the appointment of another Goldman Sachs alum to Obama's economic team. http://www.alternet.org/blogs/workplace/
134907/goldman_vet_sparks_conflict_on_
hill/?cID=1179449#c1179449

ENOUGH!

WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING! NOW!!!

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IF this doesn't piss you off--
Posted by: crazy carlos on Apr 5, 2009 6:55 PM   
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“Excellent viewing --

"Bill Moyer's Journal": Interview with William K. Black

"William K. Black suspects that it was more than greed and incompetence that brought down the U.S. financial sector and plunged the economy in recession — it was fraud. And he would know. When it comes to financial shenanigans, William K. Black, the former senior regulator who cracked down on banks during the savings and loan crisis of the 1980s, has seen pretty much everything."

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BILL MOYERS: You're describing what Bernie Madoff did to a limited number of people. But you're saying it's systemic, a systemic Ponzi scheme.

WILLIAM K. BLACK: Oh, Bernie was a piker. He doesn't even get into the front ranks of a Ponzi scheme...

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~ http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/04032009/profile.html

This lasts about 30 minutes, but if you really don't like what is going on, it is a must read.
Carlos

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Y'all voted for this
Posted by: gellero1 on Apr 5, 2009 7:18 PM   
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Demopublicans.......all the same gang.

Ron Paul is the only one offering different solutions.

The Obama Elite is no different than the Bush Elite.

Why is that so hard to see??

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policy maven
Posted by: policy maven on Apr 5, 2009 8:43 PM   
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I am totally with Josh who I first met last year in Oakland. I told him then about a film I was beginning about the Wall St. Heist taking place, and the first part of the film can now be seen at www.Heist-themovie.com

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better late than never
Posted by: johnwinthrop on Apr 6, 2009 5:17 PM   
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this whole pile of crap is so complicated which is how these thieving bankers and investment bankers ran this ponzi scheme for years without regulation. Great job, Joshua Holland: you laid it out, simple and ugly.

I don't know if "hedge" funds are covered in this swindle. I do know that that is where the biggies put their own money and that supposedly, if those fold, we are in the Big Depression.

Let's follow that smelly trail too. But this was quite good and goes into my "favorites" file of articles on the recessiona and how we got there.

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BAILOUT...TOOTHFAIRY'S GONE REALLY WRONG
Posted by: SassyFrassy on Apr 8, 2009 11:41 AM   
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This stimulus specifically targets the small/med business sectors and will eradicate and obliterate the small/med business sectors from the America landscape.

In additon to the gravy-training of the BIG business sector which will bankrupt this Nation.

1. it has targeted to inflict Higher and more stringent taxes on already over-burdened small business sectors

2. it targets to inflict Harsher and more stricter rules and regulations on already over-uburdened small/med business sectors to make it IMPOSSIBLE for anyone to even think about starting and making even a tiny profit in the business arena.

3. As you know this past year to present they have been wanting to make it so no BIG BUSINESS can be sued for STEALING OR INFRINGING on anyone's innovations and ideas.

In additon to public (whom ususally comprises the small/med business sectors known as Mom& pop business boutiques the genral public small enterprises which are the wheels which fuel our 'healthy' economy and are the legs this Nation stands on) being FORCED to keep their own small/med business afloat in this horrible economy (which we didn't create) the PUBLIC and small med/business sectors are being FORCED to keep the BIG BUSINESS engorged deliberately to break the backs of our FREE ENTERPRISE system.

Everyone knows that RIGHT NOW you or i or any "regular' public joe with small/med business could never go into any bank and obtain a loan to throw away on parties or pay exec perks etc with the companies NOT even showing a profit. So, why should big business.

No wonder all those big companies cannot wait to get their hands on taxpayer funds to throw away. this stimulus creates an door for the big business getting the opportunity to MUSCLE out and eradicate the small business/med business sectors from the landscape and to keep small/med business from every getting a chance to be able to exist at all in the marketplace for all time.

it took ACORN and DEMS 9 years to bring on the meltdown now this new bailout THROWS more money at them so they will be the bottomless moneypit drain on public funds. WANNA know what happened to all those low income ACORN homes??? they are all boarded up. WHILE our economy is still reeling from the effects of DEMS CONSTANT bad fiscal policies. Got it straight from the horse's mouths people.

It's important the PUBLIC seek LEGAL AND legislative action to OPPOSE THE BAILOUT. We must force these business to pay every dime back IN A TIMELY FASHION and restore these businesses to the PUBLIC SECTOR so that the SMALL bus/med business sector can participate in FREE ENTERPRISE.

Do it for your children's sake otherwise there will be no hope for any young couple in love whom wishes to think about getting married and starting a new business and make it profitably work. IT WILL NEVER BE POSSIBLE IF THE PUBLIC doesn't show their determination to protect their CONSTITUTION. IN ADDITION, the 99 PERCENT of the public 'needs" to seek LEGAL AND LEGISLATIVE action to OPPOSE THE BAILOUT AND STIMULUS.

Then WASH DC slugs have the nerve to claim 500.00 bucks will "help"?? that won't even buy groceries for MONTH for most USA.

WASH DC SLUGS think that a couple of bucks is all it takes to DESTROY the USA freedoms and free enterprise and peoples health and DISMANTLE it's entire economic structure a sector at a time??? Do they think the USA is a bargain basement shop?!!!

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BAILOUT....TOOTHFAIRY'S GONE REALLY WRONG
Posted by: SassyFrassy on Apr 8, 2009 11:43 AM   
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To the present it's only one of the 1 % group of people attempting to destroy our Nation's economic systems.

WHY??? It was said to a WASH DC VIP---that the reason the Socialists think they will win this time and are doing this is because ACLU and their DEMS SLUGS -- they don't think American's are " smart enough" to care to let their fingers do the walking to protect their lands, their CONSTITUTION or their freedoms. The DEMS and ACLU don't think the 99% of American's will be 'smart enough" to CARE about their country, their homes, their small business enough to kick the WASH DC SLUGS out and send them packing by way of Balagovich for NOT doing what is right to protect PUBLIC freedoms and the free enterprise system (ie meaning small business/med business) and rights.

Therefore, they want to make sure they take all freedoms away from the public and they want to make it impossible for FREE ENTERPRISE to exist for the small business and mid business and sole proprietorship thru gravytraining BIG BUSINESS bankrupting our Nation and MUSCLING OUT the small/med sole proprietorships, and creating a welfare state. A move straight out of the marxist handbook. and by attempting to eradicate free speech.

Then, we will be SOCIALIST/GLOBALIST/MARX/FACIST/COMM COUNTRY and the marketplace will be MONOPOLIZED AND DOMINATED by the ENGORGED 1 or 2 or several big businesses in sector. Gone will be the hope for any American whom would wish to start a business and earn profit to live on.



SEE American center for law and justice and familysecuritymatters.org and the national center for public policy research

Ben Franklin left some thoughts on this--

“When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.” -- Benjamin Franklin

however,Thomas Jefferson pretty well covered much about our situation today in two quotes made by him over 200 years ago. Our founders fathers feared what we are living today:

1. "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be."

2. "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."*

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