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Embarrassingly Unpatriotic: Conservatives Who Want the U.S. to Fail

Posted by Steve Benen, Washington Monthly at 10:32 AM on February 14, 2009.


Keep in mind, of course, that such talk under Bush's presidency would force someone from the airwaves.
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Rush Limbaugh caused a bit of a stir about a month ago, when he told his audience, "I disagree fervently with the people on our [Republican] side of the aisle who have caved and who say, 'Well, I hope [President Obama] succeeds.' ... I hope Obama fails. Somebody's gotta say it."

The right-wing host went on a similar tirade yesterday when talking about the economic recovery package: "I want everything he's doing to fail... I want the stimulus package to fail.... I do not want this to succeed."

Limbaugh is, without ambiguity, rooting for failure. In the midst of an economic crisis, Limbaugh quite openly admitted that if Obama's economic policies are successful, it would undermine the talk-show host's worldview. As such, Limbaugh wants desperately to see more Americans suffer, more workers unemployed, more businesses close up shop. The key here is philosophy -- if government spending can stimulate the economy, as it always does, then the right is wrong. Limbaugh would much prefer a suffering nation than a reevaluation of conservative ideas.

Keep in mind, of course, that such talk under Bush's presidency would force someone from the airwaves. If a prominent progressive figure said, just as the president was sending troops into war in early 2003, "I want everything he's doing to fail. I want the war in Iraq to fail. I do not want the president's national security agenda to succeed," he or she would lose all advertising revenue and be fired. In the midst of a crisis, Americans rooting against America, based on nothing but ideological rigidity, are pariahs.

Or, at least, they used to be.

Similar sentiments are even found coming from members of Congress. Take Sen. David Vitter (R-La.), best known for getting caught in a prostitution scandal, talking to a Federalist Society gathering this week:

According to Vitter, the GOP is basically betting the farm that the stimulus package is going to fail, and the party wants Democrats to go down with it. "Our next goal is to make President Obama and liberal Democrats in Congress own it completely," he said. Instead of coming up with serious measures to save the economy, the party intends to devote its time to an "we told you so" agenda that will include GOP-only hearings on the bill's impact in the coming months to highlight the bill's purportedly wasteful elements and shortcomings.

While Vitter seemed to think this was a brilliant new political tactic, voters might be less enthusiastic than Federalist Society members about politicians who spend the next 18 months rooting for the economy to get worse, just to prove a point.

But, in Vitter's world, that's the price you apparently have to pay for sticking to your principles, call girls be damned.

Remember, these clowns like to maintain the fiction that Republicans have the high ground on patriotism.

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Tagged as: limbaugh, vitter, unpatriotic

Steve Benen is "blogger in chief" of the popular Washington Monthly online blog, Political Animal. His background includes publishing The Carpetbagger Report, and writing for a variety of publications, including Talking Points Memo, The American Prospect, the Huffington Post, and The Guardian. He has also appeared on NPR's "Talk of the Nation," MSNBC's "Rachel Maddow Show," Air America Radio's "Sam Seder Show," and XM Radio's "POTUS '08."


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it's not really 'wanting it to fail'
Posted by: wwittman on Feb 14, 2009 12:01 PM   
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it's really not wanting to LET it succeed, and thereby prove (yet AGAIN) that Liberal values actually work economically and that Conservative ideas fail.

what they are so desperately afraid of is an actual demonstration of how wrong they have always been.


they're busy shrieking: "you don't want big GOVERNMENT, do you?" because they know the answer from the public is a resounding "yes"

It's the same reason they're trying so hard, with another lie being tested everyday, to discredit by revisionism the New Deal.
they HATE that it worked.
so if they say, often enough, that it didn't...

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» RE: it's not really 'wanting it to fail' Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com
Limbaugh wants everything to fail
Posted by: ikonoklast on Feb 14, 2009 12:34 PM   
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because he himself is the epitome of Fail. Everything he says is rooted in the worst of ideological failures and should be ignored by sensible people.

The conservative movement in America has been reduced to nothing but hypocrisy, obfuscation and misdirection. The louder they speak, the more empty wind they generate. If only we could plant a turbine farm downwind of Limbaugh.

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RE: WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM
Posted by: Bibsisis on Feb 16, 2009 6:18 AM   
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You said it correctly, cwilsondrm. I despise that poor excuse of a human being! Remember when he used to preach that people who use drugs should be locked up, shot, or any other thing he would use to kill them. Then we learned he's a drug addict. Haven't heard much about that lately, have we?

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I Love That Picture!
Posted by: DrBrian on Feb 14, 2009 6:20 PM   
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Limbaugh sucking on a long, thick, flesh-colored, warm object...Freud, who smoked them, may have decreed that "a cigar is just a cigar," but in this case I disagree.

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» RE: I Love That Picture! Posted by: helenahanbasquet
Someone post a list
Posted by: Rod on Feb 14, 2009 7:02 PM   
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Of all the advertisers on Rush Limbaugh show. I would, but I can not stand him that long.

The we all boycott them, and write them letters, and hope free market economics get to them.

Rod

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» RE: Someone post a list Posted by: helenahanbasquet
» RE: Someone post a list Posted by: Bibsisis
Since when are entertainers 'voices of America?'
Posted by: lasarte-oria on Feb 15, 2009 7:05 AM   
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I remember, living in Florida in the early 90's, a tabloid program called 'Inside Edition'. It would focus on scandalous topics and was a precursor of later FOX 'news' programs. The host was Bill O'Reilly. A guy whose style was based on Morton Downey jr.
Well, I lived out of the country for several years and when I came back Mr. O'Reilley was suddenly a venerated broadcaster. In fact, all the 90's wash-ups found new life on the uber-patriotic FOX network.
Rush, in the 90's, was perhaps the harbringer of modern media. At the time, local radio outlets were being bought up by massive, often Christian, conglomerates (such as Paxson). Local talk was ditched in favor of the stars of these stations.
Deregulation lead to a handful of radio pundits and there imitators being the only option on the radio. In Atlanta, the only liberal voice could be heard Sunday mornings from 6-9 a.m. Is it any wonder these states are so fiercly conservative?
Limbaugh has his following, that is without question. He can get away with he says because not because no one has the cojones to take him to task, but rather because those voices aren't broadcast.
The best way to combate Rush would be to flood his lines, everyday, with people willing to argue with him. Flood the stations that carry him with mail, hit his advertisers, etc.
Wage protest v. Rush and his ilk.

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Isn't it Treason?
Posted by: corey on Feb 16, 2009 1:44 AM   
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I thought treason included behaviors that were taken to destroy the country. Isn't that what Vitter and his scum bag friends are guilty of?

I guess with a government that follows it's own rules and laws, "treason" is in the eye of the beholder.

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leftbank
Posted by: markw4786 on Feb 16, 2009 9:07 AM   
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Please get Sen Vitters pandering right. Yes he frequented women of the night but with an odd twist. These hard working women would come by and...CHANGE HIS DIAPER. Yes, CHANGE HIS DIAPER.
KNOW THINE ENEMY.

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Limbaugh is just being straightforward
Posted by: VeryBlessed on Feb 16, 2009 10:45 AM   
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"Keep in mind, of course, that such talk under Bush's presidency would force someone from the airwaves. If a prominent progressive figure said, just as the president was sending troops into war in early 2003, 'I want everything he's doing to fail. I want the war in Iraq to fail. I do not want the president's national security agenda to succeed,' he or she would lose all advertising revenue and be fired. In the midst of a crisis, Americans rooting against America, based on nothing but ideological rigidity, are pariahs."

Alternet, which is quite representative of liberalism's views, calls its section on the Iraq War "War ON Iraq." It's clear what calling it that implies. Limbaugh is just being more open in declaring his thoughts.

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A spade is a spade, and a NeoCON who wants the
Posted by: jvaljon1 on Feb 21, 2009 2:00 AM   
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U,S.A. to fail, is a TRAITOR TO OUR COUNTRY.

They are, anyway: they hate the Liberalism that made America the free-est country in the world. The next time that any of these slime take to their bully pulpit to preach sedition ("I hope the President fails...") we ought to toss 'em in jail.

There's one hell of a difference between free speech and yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater. NeoCONS are vicious enemies of our Constitutional Republic--they're the seed-bed of Fascism, and as such, ahould be declared persona non gratis when any of them open their foul mouths.

OF COURSE Rush (et al) hope and pray that President Obama cannot bring order to the economic chaos that they--the NeoCONS--have been busy creating for the past 9 years. In their evil minds, failure of the President's initiatives, is the only option.

And so it doesn't matter what benefits
President Obama accomplishes while in office--the NeoCONS are going to do what they always do; lie about everything that he does. Because everything he does, makes them (CONS) look worse and worse.

Not only are they liars, but they're despicable, disgustng liars, without a single redeeming feature amongst them.

What loathesome pieces of filth they are! If we need a 2-party system that bad, let's bring up the Independent Party, and relegate the CONS to where they so clearly belong; to History's shitpile.

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Evil is evil. Let's all, please, for God's (and our country's sweet sake...
Posted by: jvaljon1 on Feb 21, 2009 10:33 AM   
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...make up some scrapbooks, of all Rush's bullshit, repudiating these right-wing liars--from Rush to Rupert Murdoch.


Remember that--using the Depression as an example, these pigs would have to assert that,(contrary to SETTLED HISTORY)--FDR (instead of putting everyone back to work via the WPA and the CCC-- did no such thing and, rather, not only created (all by himself!) but also, extended The First Great Depression!

Oops--isn't that what they ARE SAYING?

People--we ignore and dismiss these CON iieces of garbage, at our AND OUR CHILDREN'S Peeril.

Have you not heard them talking, a couple of years back, about how "Your children, won't have it as good, as you did?"

Maybe we didn't quite get the actual meaning of those threats when they began surfacing in 2006--but 2.6 million jobs lost throughout 2008, and over half a million more lost so far this year (and it's only February--) represents the biggest robbery from Americans by Americans, in all of American History.

And now you have some southern governors, in states like Mississippi, Louisiana(!) and Texas--refusing their states' portion of the stimulus package--on the basis that 'it isn't BIB ENOUGH'??!!

Geez. How much cash can these CON crooks' vaults hold, anyway?? Come to think of it--they DID say "your children" won't have it goog.

They said nothing, you'll notice, about THEIR kids.

Think about it.

Only people like the NeoCONS, who have lost all credibility from the former president Bush, on down through the stinking bowels of his eight stolen years in office--only the CONS see no harm to themselves in putting forth baldfaced lies and presenting those lies as truth.

On to something else: the Republicans all through America's History--have been SLAVERS. Lincoln--a Republican--FREED THE SLAVES, and was put under immediate sentence of death. No trial, no nothing--just, BOOM, one night at the theater.

But did that re-institute slavery? No, Booth just murdered one of our greatest Presidents, in typically cold-blooded, cowardly Republican fashion.

Cowards, liars, and thieves--but only if we let them.

Our news media should never have been privatized. Why? Because, it's not in the interests of the rich, after all, to tell the truth about anything--much less any 'history' that they hsd a hsnd in. Example:

Now we have tha filthy carpetbagger from Australia, Mr. Rupert Piece-Of-Filth Murdoch, brazenly running a depiction of our President Barack Obams as a raging chimp who had to be destroyed by the police.

To disagree with the President is one thing--but to tacitly give the OK for his assassinstion,is something else again.

I call it Treason. I call for the arrest of Rupert Murdoch, and his immediate expulsion from this country. And, just to short-stop you before you start, Murdoch--the sedition that you published in your NY Post cartoon of a few days ago, is not 'free speech'.

A child's greatest influence, is their parents.

I always knew that the Republican Party engineered the Depression of the 30s--because my parents taught me so. And even when I as a teenager rebelled against them, I still could find no wrong in what they said on thaat subject--and believe me, I tried.

That, they have no problem asserting now--

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