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NPR Has a Good Laugh Over Torture

Posted by Steve M., No More Mister Nice Blog at 6:00 AM on July 16, 2008.


Public Radio's The Takeaway reduces Gitmo detainees' suffering to "which would you rather" discussion of torture songs.
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We can sneer at Rush Limbaugh and his Club G'itmo, but this morning on The Takeaway, public radio's insipid new morning pseudo-news show, a significant amount of airtime was devoted to a segment called "The Songs That Torture Us" -- a response to the well-known list of songs blasted at detainees in U.S. military prisons, which Mother Jones recently published as a sidebar to some serious articles on torture. This means that for many minutes this morning, all us good liberals in the public radio audience were regaled by a discussion of torture that reduced the issue to "Which would be a more effective song to torture you -- 'Billy, Don't Be a Hero" or 'You Light Up My Life'?"

(Listen here.)

Judging from the e-mails to the show, it appears that more listeners happily played along than objected to the segment.

This is how I know that there will never, ever be any war-crimes tribunals in America.

And just in case you don't understand what I'm talking about...

...In a gripping Vanity Fair article, Donovan Webster searched for and found "the man in the hood" from the macabre Abu Ghraib photos. Haj Ali told Webster of being hooded, stripped, handcuffed to his cell and bombarded with a looped sample of David Gray's "Babylon." It was so loud, he said, "I thought my head would burst." Webster then cued up "Babylon" on his iPod and played it for Haj Ali to confirm the song. Ali ripped the earphones off his head, and started crying. "He didn't just well up with tears," Webster later told me. "He broke down sobbing." ...

In Afghanistan, Zakim Shah, a 20-year-old Afghan farmer, was forced to stay awake while in American custody by soldiers blasting music and shouting at him. Shah told the New York Times that after enduring the pain of music, "he grew so exhausted...that he vomited." In Guantánamo Bay, Eminem, Britney Spears, Limp Bizkit, Rage Against the Machine, Metallica (again) and Bruce Springsteen ("Born in the USA") have been played at mind-numbing volumes, sometimes for stretches of up to fourteen hours, at detainees....

In 1978 the European Court of Human Rights confronted a similar technique employed by Britain in the early 1970s against Irish detainees, although in the British rendition, it was loud noise instead of music that was wielded against detainees. This was one of the so-called Five Techniques...

Of Britain's Five Techniques, noise was considered the hardest to suffer. In his book Unspeakable Acts, Ordinary People, John Conroy describes the "absolute" and "unceasing" noise that the Irishmen who were first subjected to the Five Techniques endured. While the other four techniques were clearly terrifying, the noise was "an assault of such ferocity that many of the men now recall it as the worst part of the ordeal." ...

Ha ha ha! "Seasons in the Sun"! James Blunt! Ha ha ha!


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Bending Over And Taking It
Posted by: QQOblivion on Jul 16, 2008 7:04 AM   
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This is sort of like joking about rape. Will NPR joke about rape next? For some of the US-held "war on terror" detainees have been raped in custody too.

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C'mon
Posted by: Nozka on Jul 16, 2008 8:30 AM   
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I'm as sensitive to the evils of torture as anyone, but you guys need to seriously lighten up. Talking about how certain music can be torturous in no way diminishes the issue at Gitmo. Give it a rest.

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» RE: C'mon Posted by: Joshua Holland
You know....
Posted by: clvngodess on Jul 17, 2008 12:33 PM   
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I see the irony of it.

And in a recent post from noise free america, they talked about how loud music can be physically and psychologically damaging to human beings. WHO sites the research on this as well.

If one is to dig or drill down on this particular subject further, you will find articles about boom violators being punished in certain states, like Ohio or some place, being forced to listen to Barney songs at ridiculous decibels.

I find that wildly amusing, but then, I've been terrorized by loud ridiculous noise by bad neighbors. And I've heard concerts at Dodger Stadium, KISS in particular, that was so loud, at my home 2 miles away, we could hear the concert inside perfectly with the windows and doors shut. While this is amusing on some level, one can only imagine what it is like for those who lived through Abu Graib or Guantanamo. (I often wonder how loud the Kiss concert was inside the stadium, Geez!)

Frankly I think if I were forced to listen to Britney Spears, I'd waterboard myself.

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figure it out......
Posted by: budahh on Jul 18, 2008 9:39 AM   
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very few people will every understand something they have not personally suffered. Even then, they don't always learn the real lessons.

Torture will break anyone, sooner or later.
Period.

McSame was tortured, was anti-torture, now is running for prez and says some torture is ok.

Simple test: if you don't want it done to your son or daughter, don't do it to anyone else.

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