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Pentagon’s Spin On GI Bill Is ‘Offensive Nonsense’

Posted by Jon Soltz, Think Progress at 4:42 PM on May 7, 2008.


Jon Soltz of Vote Vets weighs in on the new GI Bill.
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Yesterday, ThinkProgress highlighted the latest reason from the Bush administration to oppose a real GI Bill for troops, offered by Senators Webb and Hagel. The Pentagon spokesperson said, in part:

[W]e are certainly concerned that this would be eligible to them after only two years of service. We think pegging it to a longer period of service — the number we have in mind, at this point, is six years of service — that the longer you stay in, the sweeter the benefits are to you. Six years would show a commitment to service. … The last thing we want to do is provide a benefit — or the last thing we want to do is create a situation in which we are losing our men and women who we have worked so hard to train.

Wow. There are a few very serious flaws in this logic:

First, the time of service isn’t a measure of commitment to service. What about the troops who served under six years, did a few tours in Iraq, and came back without a limb, and could no longer serve? Have they shown less of a commitment to America? I would love for this spokesperson to go to Walter Reed and tell anyone there who served three years, but now cannot continue their service, that they haven’t shown a commitment.

Second, no one is leaving the military after two years. I’d note that when you sign up, it’s for an eight year contract, most for four years active. They can serve in a number of ways. For example, I served four and a half years active (because I was Stop Lossed), went to grad school and served in the reserves, but was called back up after ten months. So, the point remains that you’re not talking about a flood of people breaking their contract after three or four years. The overwhelming majority of men and women serve out their contract for eight years, so even if they do begin school when they’re done with their active duty commitment, the military can call them up at any time they need them, for the life of the troop’s contract. A GI Bill isn’t going to change it.

Third is that if the administration was serious about retention, they would focus on the role of contractors, who continually snatch up troops, offering them up to 10 times their military pay to do a similar job in Iraq. That’s a much bigger threat to retention than offering a service-member the chance to get a quality education.

Personally, it took me months after I got back to get contractors to stop calling me, offering me six-figures, tax-free, to do work for them in Iraq. I didn’t take them up on it, but there are far more who do leave to make money. I do not blame the troops for this, by the way. They have families to provide for, and if they’re going to take on a dangerous task, it’s far more attractive to do it for a lot of money, which they can leave to their families.

But the fact is that the administration hasn’t taken on contractors – it’s embraced them. The administration continues to dole out bloated contracts to private contractors, instead of increase the size of the military, or address how the war in Iraq has overextended our forces. The result is that those contracts are spent, in large part, to lure away members of the military.

So, the latest spin by the Pentagon isn’t just nonsense – it’s offensive nonsense, because it insults the intelligence of the service members who recognize that the administration has never been serious about retention. Otherwise, they would have done something about contractors a long, long time ago.

You can read all about this issue, and how the troops and veterans are reacting, over at www.VetVoice.com


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Patriots?
Posted by: Longdream on May 7, 2008 5:00 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
All their patriotism is in their flag pins.

This complete disrespect for the knowledge, courage, guts, sacrifice and strength it takes to be in today's military shows this administration for the pigs they really are.

"God bless" our boys on the front, they say. Well, God had better do something, because they're coming home having to pay for the equipment that was bombed off their backs, to hospitals full of mold to make them sicker, not better, having to fight for their pay, their health care and their benefits, to sit in the second-rate hospitals, disabled and trying to get up, forgotten, unmentionable, because the sick fucks who put them in the war don't want the country to know how very many of them there are.

The filthy bastards responsible for his war, and now this attempt to leave the men and women who fought it blackmailed, high and dry should be fed about fifty flag pins apiece, and then plunked down in line at their nearest under-staffed VA hospital to get help before they die.

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Republicans say support our troops but they mean
Posted by: whealeydj on May 7, 2008 6:43 PM   
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support Republican Commander in Chief. If they really supported the troops they would support the Webb of a generous GI Bill. mccain supports a stingy verson and should be called on it.

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So...
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on May 8, 2008 6:42 AM   
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Now in addition to anyone ever convicted of a drug offense, the admin wants to do more to deny education to soldiers as well. Then, of course, they do little to nothing about predatory student lending.

Anyone else notice a trend?

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End this Corp/Neo con Game NOW
Posted by: Purple Girl on May 8, 2008 7:14 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
How many blanant examples of High Crimes are need to finally convict these Criminals of Treason, War Crimes and Crimes agaisnt Humanity?!?
Start with Cheney and follow his mud & blood prints everywhere they lead.
A Presidnet can be on the Brink of Impeachment for lying aobut a BJ- Yet these atrocities have no recourse in a 'Democratic 'society?
We need our Military to Come Home NOW to arrest the Domestic enemies who are in our Gov't and hide amongst the 'Free Market' and 'Religious' doctrines. Let every True American serving to Protect an dDefend this country, it's citizens, Freedoms and Rights GO AWOL!!!Liberate & Load up the Carriers and Planes and all the equipment you can bring- WE NEED YOU HERE!

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who really supports our troops
Posted by: aalif ba ta tha on May 8, 2008 7:23 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]

Take a look at the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America rating on how each of our Congress members supports the troops.
By "supporting the troops," I mean giving them the medical and mental benefits and scholarship loans they deserve. Flag pins are not a factor in the rating.

EVERY SINGLE grade of "A" is a Democrat and EVERY SINGLE "F" is a Republican.

Take a look at your home state. I can guarantee all the highest ratings are Dems and the low ones are all Repubs.

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FREAKS OF NATURE
Posted by: VZEQICVA on May 8, 2008 7:29 AM   
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What are the odds of this many contemptible
people ending up in one administration? Even Laura got mad at the people in Mynamar. How do they get this way. There is nothing practical
about their decisions. Mortgages,soldiers, veterans, the sick & old,the poor. Historically the deal with any military is that they defend their country, in return for which THEIR COUNTRY OWES THEM. Plain & simple. John Yoo can't rewrite all the rules. ANNA

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The last thing they want to do...
Posted by: Quannah on May 8, 2008 9:08 AM   
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"...The last thing we want to do is provide a benefit — or the last thing we want to do is create a situation in which we are losing our men and women who we have worked so hard to train...

They could have stopped with the first part of the sentence there... the last thing they want to do is provide a benefit. That's the truth.

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Speaking of lies... .. ...
Posted by: NamVeT on May 8, 2008 9:08 AM   
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"The facts are stark and the facts are real...Our men and women in
uniform love their country more than their comfort. They have never failed
us, and we must not fail them. But the best intentions and the highest
morale are undermined by back-to-back deployments, poor pay, shortages
of spare parts and equipment, and rapidly declining readiness."

"...these are signs of a military in decline and we must do something
about it. The reasons are clear. Lack of equipment and material.
Undermaning of units. Overdeployment. Not enough time for family. Soldiers who
are on food stamps, and soldiers who are poorly housed. Dick Cheney
and I have a simple message today for our men and women in uniform, their
parents, their loved ones, their supporters: Help is on the way!"

"A generation shaped by Vietnam must remember the lessons of Vietnam.
When America uses force in the world, the cause must be just, the goal
must be clear, and the victory must be overwhelming."

"To build morale in today's United States military we must keep faith
with those who have worn the uniform in the past. We must keep faith
with America's veterans. . .And keeping faith also means giving our
veterans first-rate health care and treating the veterans with dignity. . .So
chaotic is the process there is now a backlog of nearly one
half-million claims. This is no way to treat any citizen, much less a veteran of
our armed forces. The veterans health-care system and the claims
process will be modernized, so that claims are handled in a fair and friendly
way."

"In my Administration, the Department of Veterans Affairs will act as
an advocate for veterans seeking benefit claims, not act as an
adversary. Veterans who once stood in the line of fire to protect our freedom
should not have to stand in the line of a bureaucracy that is unwilling
to help them in their claims."

---George W. Bush VFW Speech - August 21, 2000

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» RE: Speaking of lies... .. ... Posted by: Longdream
What are the odds of this many contemptible
Posted by: TruthBeTold on May 8, 2008 10:00 AM   
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people ending up in one administration?

Sewage seeks its own level.

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What are the odds of this many contemptible
Posted by: TruthBeTold on May 8, 2008 10:00 AM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
people ending up in one administration?

Sewage seeks its own level.

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The Messenger dearherb
Posted by: Herbert Levinson on May 9, 2008 9:14 AM   
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Contractors are like a private army, for Bush. But, being payed for by American taxpayers.

Regular troops answerable to the Constitution. The private army is only answerable to Bush personally.

They could be controlled by Congress and by their budget, with Congress GAO control facility.
But Congress is paid off, by the Establishment in league and complicit with Bush so far.

Only public exposure thus far has curtailed the activity, of the Military Industrial Complex.

American taxpayers have been given and had their nosed thumbed, at by Congress and the President. It a hit on democracy not seen in this Country, for a long time. these people feel they have no obligation to the Citizenry taxpayers or the Armed Forces.

Its the condition where the crazies have taken over the insane asylum comparable, to what Hitler did, to the Germany people, in the twelve years they were in power.
The files I've compiled and distributed for the last 3 years show that it the same people today, that were responsible for Hitler then are still at their odious tasks, of murder, pillage and plunder.

Hitler also had his own private army, the Brown Shirts and SS hooligans are prime examples, some 4 million strong, at the start of WWII, to watch the regular Army.

Some 5 top German Army commanding Generals, were executed, during the war. Gen Halter, Gen Brochister, General Canaris (Chief of German Intelligence Service) and others. Each major Command had an SS man assigned, to spy and intimidate the Generals to follow the Nazi line.

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