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Where Was the Military Brass Against the Yoo Memo? The Political Leadership?

Posted by Christy Hardin Smith, Firedoglake at 12:41 PM on April 4, 2008.


If there was objection to the Cheney JAG end-run, why wasn't it getting more media play?
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Something highlighted in the NYTimes article on the Yoo memo has been nagging at me:

While resembling an August 2002 memorandum drafted largely by Mr. Yoo, the March 2003 opinion went further, arguing more explicitly that the president's war powers could trump the law against torture, which it said could not constitutionally be enforced if it interfered with the commander in chief's orders.
Scott L. Silliman, head of the Center on Law, Ethics and National Security at Duke University and a former Air Force lawyer, said he did not believe that the 2003 memorandum directly caused mistreatment. But Mr. Silliman added, "The memo helped to build a culture that, in the absence of leadership from the highest ranks of the Pentagon, allowed the abuses at Abu Ghraib and elsewhere."
Because opinions issued by the Office of Legal Counsel are "binding on the Defense Department," Mr. Silliman said, Mr. Yoo's opinion effectively sidelined military lawyers who strongly opposed harsh interrogation methods.

There were JAG corps lawyers and judges, and upper-level brass, grumbling and pushing back on various issues. But the neocons appear to have engineered and end-run on a policy decision to promote rather than try to prevent torture techniques being used that run contrary to the UCMJ. There were instances of strong pushback -- the Mora work being a prime example, as well as Lt. Commander Swift and others who stood for the rule of law.



But where were the usual retired military brass surrogates speaking for the folks still in uniform, whose personal opinions are restricted from public airing under the UCMJ? Usually they are dispatched whenever there is a fundamental disagreement between civilian and military leadership on an issue of consequence. The Abu Ghraib reaction was fairly swift denunciations and horror, but I'm trying to recall objections prior to those pictures surfacing and not coming up with much. Anyone recall specific instances? If so, let me know.

If there was objection to the Cheney JAG end-run, why wasn't it getting more media play? Because, frankly, the yappy stylings of Huckleberry Graham's petulant hearing question performances when coupled with his over-the-top "yer either patriotic or yer agin' us" MCA defense on the Senate floor leave a lot to be desired in the "public outcry" column. And that goes for John McCain as well.


As we look further at this, the layers of complicity and silence weigh heavily. What we already know, and have known, is bad enough. But I cannot shake feeling that the worst is yet to come in terms of revelations of misconduct and acquiescence -- every time we've hit the rock bottom of unethical and illegal conduct, we take the next step down to another stomach churning revelation. And top-level officials have yet to feel the heat on any of this, even though it was their policy directive bidding that Yoo was doing.

I agree with Marty, when it rains it pours..."they were willing to throw away our values" pretty much sums it up in a nutshell, doesn't it? Yoo's discussion with Esquire about his memo being declassified and other legal justifications from his perspective does nothing to dispel this and, as Marty aptly notes, the record doesn't sustain his assertions. But this, in particular, from the Esquire discussions with Yoo is deliberately obtuse obfuscation:

I don't [necessarily] agree that the methods did migrate to Iraq, because I don't know for a fact that they did. The analysis of the memo released yesterday was not to apply to Iraq, and we made clear in other settings that the Geneva Conventions fully applied to the war in Iraq. There was no intention or desire that the memo released yesterday apply to Iraq. (emphasis mine)

It's as though all efforts to have honesty, integrity or accountability seep into their internal versions of reality are vehemently opposed at all times. Can't possibly look the consequences of your decisions straight in the eye and accept your role in them, now can you?

Especially given that wanna-be King Petulance stomped out of a lengthy meeting on Afghanistan policy with NATO allies because it ran too long for his scheduling tic, at a time when Taliban forces are massing on the Afghan/Pakistani border again and lengthy discussion about strategy and long-term planning was desperately needed. How is it possible that one administration can drop so many balls, create so many self-inflicted consequences and leave so many problems hanging at one time?

The rain has been pouring down outside my window in large sheets that run like rivulets across our yard and down the storm drains all day long...but we can't just wash this stain away.

(YouTube of Lt. Commander Charles Swift discussing the importance of the rule of law and its application to the President as well as the rest of the nation.)

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Christy Hardin Smith is a former attorney, who earned her undergraduate degree at Smith College, in American Studies and Government, concentrating in American Foreign Policy. She then went on to graduate studies at the University of Pennsylvania in the field of political science and international relations/security studies, before attending law school at the College of Law at West Virginia University, where she was Associate Editor of the Law Review.


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It's past time for an April Fool's joke...
Posted by: Quannah on Apr 4, 2008 1:56 PM   
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but is this for real?

"...Scott L. Silliman, head of the Center on Law, Ethics and National Security at Duke University and a former Air Force lawyer, said he did not believe that the 2003 memorandum directly caused mistreatment..."

Is that really his name? Silli-man???

Sometimes, you just can't make this stuff up! Oy Vey!

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Disbar Yoo!
Posted by: AlexLawyer on Apr 4, 2008 6:06 PM   
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Mr Yoo should be disbarred and dismissed from his faculty position for his shameful role in blatantly advocating unquestionably criminal behavior. While lawyers can, and often do, differ on interpretations of the law, it is unethical to advocate clearly unlawful behavior, as he did. It is hard to believe that any reputable law school would allow a man scarcely morally different from some of the Nuremburg defendants to teach its students, and appalling that the students do not boycott the classes of such a monstrous man.

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RE: another side to the story?
Posted by: Fishbone Soldier on Apr 4, 2008 10:04 PM   
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I don't know that he's a Bush asskisser. He's just a completely full of himself gasbag who can't express a thought or interview anyone without talking about how great he thinks he is. He knows better.

He's the worst. People would call him another O'Reilly, but O'Reilly at least makes points (completely inane ones, but Matthews can't even do that). Can't wait for MSNBC to junk him and permanently install Maddow. It'll happen (in like ten goddamn years).

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RE: another side to the story?
Posted by: andrushka on Apr 10, 2008 3:39 AM   
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Boy DO I agree with you. I have never seen Chris Matthews as stupid as he was today. I really feel sorry for him - I think it is beyond cure!

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Nice piece of work!
Posted by: chuckjs on Apr 5, 2008 4:52 AM   
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So how can an office of the presidents lawyers be able to write an interpretation of the law, that is binding on a federal department.
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't it the job of the courts, and the judges presiding over them, to interpret the law in the US. Seems to me that it wouldn't be too hard to argue that these "Legal Opinions" are just that! Opinions. And therefore neither binding, upheld by law, or constitutional. What happened to the Supreme Court having the final say on interpreting the constitution.

And how about that UCMJ huh. Although it is a good document with some very sound principles, it stiffles free speech and makes it a criminal offence. Got to love the priciple of follow your leader no matter how stupid or incompetant he is.

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The neo-con argument boils down to this:
Posted by: surfreality on Apr 7, 2008 7:18 AM   
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Because we are afraid, we reserve the right to act like savages.

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On Torture by the United States of America
Posted by: Corpsman1 on Apr 7, 2008 9:38 AM   
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"Man torturing man is a fiend beyond description. You turn a corner in the dark and there he is. You congeal into a bundle of inanimate fear. Where in your soul and body is the anesthesia for what is coming? But there is no escaping him. (You soil yourself and it runs down onto the cold, wet stone under your feet.) It is your turn now." ~Henry Miller (1891-1980) American author.

"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." ~Voltaire

"The practice of arbitrary imprisonments, has been, in all ages, one of the favorite and most formidable instruments of tyranny." ~Alexander Hamilton, Federalist Paper 84

"The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its torture chambers." ~Fyodor Dostoyevsky

"If cruelty is no longer declared unlawful, but instead is applied as a matter of policy, it alters the fundamental relationship of man to government. It destroys the whole notion of individual rights. The Constitution recognizes that man has an inherent right, not bestowed by the state or laws, to personal dignity, including the right to be free of cruelty. It applies to all human beings, not just in America -- even those designated as 'unlawful enemy combatants.' If you make this exception the whole Constitution crumbles." ~Alberto J. Mora, former Navy General Counsel (Feb. 27, 2006 issue of The New Yorker, entitled "The Memo")

"This fight has nothing to do with soldierly gallantry or principles of the Geneva Convention. If the fight against the partisans is not waged with the most brutal means, we will shortly reach the point where the available forces are insufficient to control the area. It is therefore not only justified, but it is the duty of the troops to use all means without restriction, even against women and children, so long as it ensures success." ~Wilhelm Keitel, chief of staff of the Supreme Command of the Armed Forces of Germany [Dec. 16, 1942]

"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you." ~Friedrich Nietzche

"This so-called ill treatment and torture in detention centers, stories of which were spread everywhere among the people, and later by the prisoners who were freed, were not, as some assumed, inflicted methodically, but were excesses committed by individual prison guards, their deputies, and men who laid violent hands on the detainees." ~Rudolf Hoess, the SS commandant at Auschwitz

“Modern man likes to pretend that his thinking is wide-awake. But this wide-awake thinking has led us into the mazes of a nightmare in which the torture chambers are endlessly repeated in the mirrors of reason.” ~Octavio Paz

"They are torturing people. They are torturing people on Guantanamo Bay. They are engaging in acts which amount to torture in the medieval sense of the phrase. They are engaging in good old-fashioned torture, as people would have understood it in the Dark Ages." ~Richard Bourke, Australian attorney

"Human rights pertain to all people and include the rights to peace, dignity, privacy and freedom from torture, drowning, war, and fear. We must stand up to the Bush evildoers and their minions in the congress, refusing to give in, or what we lose may be more than just our humanity." ~Paco Maribona, Certified Senior Advisor, Ethicist

"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." ~Thomas Jefferson

"The healthy man does not torture others – for generally, it is the tortured who turn into torturers." ~Carl Jung

"Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views beyond the comprehension of the weak, and that it is doing God's service when it is (really) violating all His laws." ~ John Adams

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read Jack Goldsmith's "The Terror Presidency"
Posted by: CJC on Apr 7, 2008 11:24 AM   
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Goldsmith worked for the Defense Dept and then spent 7 months as the head of OLC after Yoo left.
Goldsmith's account is all the more telling for being written by an insider. Goldsmith quit because he had neither the White House support nor the time to rewrite what I think he calls Yoo's "flawed" memos. (My book is on loan to a family member and I can't look it up right now.) Goldsmith identifies David Addington (Cheney's right hand man), present at all meetings but one Goldsmith ever had at the White House, as being adamantly opposed to the slightest restriction on executive power and any consultation with Congress.

We know from innumerable news accounts that any opposition to the White House gets officials sidelined or fired. Gen Shinseki in 2003 to Admiral Fallon last month. How can the JAGs stand up? Once you speak out your career is over. Either you keep your head low or you quit, if you're not fired first.

More to the point is why the MSM have been so reluctant to report the inside stories.

We can't be too soon rid of the current administration.

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torture used by tyrants
Posted by: whealeydj on Apr 7, 2008 12:55 PM   
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and Bush Cheney have taken us on the road to tyranny.

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