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After the Latest U.S. Airstrike, Can Anyone Wonder Why Do 'They' Hate Us?

Posted by Liliana Segura, AlterNet at 2:23 PM on May 8, 2009.


In the eyes of the children whose families die in U.S. led wars, the Americans are the terrorists.
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About a half-hour north of Jalalabad, the children along the road change. No waving. No smiling. No thumbs up. No screaming for candy. Only serious stares and empty eyes!
I have seen this in Iraq, and it's deeply uncomfortable until you get used to it -- if you get used to it. Children by nature are friendly, when they're unfriendly it's because their parents, possibly their extended family, maybe their whole community is worse than unfriendly. And the change can be fast, in the next village, yet most of the time the change comes slow. But you have to be looking. Otherwise you look up and the smiling and enthusiastic little ones are suddenly frosty and distant little ones.
-- Embedded journalist in Farah Afghanistan, March 2009

This was written during a four-day convoy ride with the Regional Corps Advisory Command of the U.S. Marines. The author, a Vietnam vet who says he has traveled to 109 countries -- including multiple trips to Afghanistan -- and "reported from more than a dozen wars," has no doubt seen his share of action. But reading it this week, days after a U.S. airstrike killed up to 130 people in Farah, Afghanistan, including 13 members of the same family, this quote from an journalist embedded with soldiers in a warzone that is escalating at this moment, is chilling.
It is a glimpse into the black and white logic that gave birth to the "War on Terror," where there is a "good" side and a "bad" side, and as long as we know where the bad guys are, perpetual war against an entire people is justifiable. Thus, if a child stares coldly at U.S. military convoys, it must be because their "parents, possibly their extended family, maybe their whole community(!)" is comprised of terrorists. Thus by the unfortunate accident of lineage and geography, they too must be terrorist in the making themselves.
Is it too obvious a point that the "frosty and distant" children who stare at U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan might do so not because "their parents, possibly their extended family, maybe their whole community is worse than unfriendly" but because "their parents, possibly their extended family, maybe their whole community" were recently slaughtered by the U.S. military, like those killed this week in Farah?

Even in the face of an official apology from Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, reports that villagers collected "two tractor trailers full of pieces of human bodies" and remarks from Afghan president Hamid Karzai that the U.S. forces must operate from a "higher platform of morality," the Pentagon has tried to claim that the civilian victims of this week's deadly airstrikes in Farah were actually killed by the Taliban, who staged the massacre in order to pin the blame on the U.S. For those who see the fight against the Taliban as a battle of good versus evil, this might seem plausible.

But six years into the bloody war on Iraq, almost eight years into the war in Afghanistan, five years after the release of the photographs of torture at Abu Ghraib, weeks after the release of the grisly CIA torture memos, and one day after a U.S. soldier was found guilty of raping a 14-year-old Iraqi girl, then killing her family it is hard to imagine that people around the world still have much faith in the infallibility -- let alone moral superiority -- of the U.S. military, even over the murderous Taliban. As more civilians die by U.S. hands in the escalating war on Afghanistan -- including children and their families -- the less convicing such cynical claims and cover-ups will be.

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Tagged as: afghanistan, hillary clinton, embedded journalists, farah, afghan children, u.s. airstrikes

Liliana Segura is a staff writer and editor of AlterNet's Rights and Liberties and War on Iraq Special Coverage.


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THE LATEST AIRSTRIKE BUT NOT THE FIRST
Posted by: VZEQICVA on May 8, 2009 2:45 PM   
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That's interesting. We must be up to about eight. Always civilians, women and children on their way to a wedding or funeral. Apologies are insulting and "we regret..." is heartless. As far as I know these bombs are dropped by unmanned predator drones. They don't know school children from terrorists. Or from our own military for that matter. Killing with technology might not be the way to go. We are breeding a new generation of people who hate us, and for very good reason. ANNA

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You Reap What You Sew
Posted by: Razional Thinker on May 8, 2009 4:18 PM   
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and we will (unfortunately)....if not now, when these kids grow up).

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Now we are as Ugly as Israel,
Posted by: weathered on May 8, 2009 6:18 PM   
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if that's even possible.

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BulldogRedemer
Posted by: BulldogRedeemer on May 8, 2009 7:18 PM   
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What is it about you nuts? Al Qaeda started the war now being conducted in Afghanistan/Pakistan, because they attacked us on 9/11. As with Japan, we are now taking their war to them. After this scum conduct attacks on our troops, they run and hide behind woman and childern. And you fault the United States? Shame on you! Where in the hell did you get your sense of ethics and loyality?

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» RE: BulldogRedemer Posted by: particle
Liliana, you DO realize we were the terrorists on 9/11, don't you?
Posted by: pfgetty on May 9, 2009 2:56 AM   
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You write the article as if you didn't know that our own government was complicit in the 9/11 attacks.
For all of your writing about how we are just as bad as these people, you must have come across information that would make you curious as to just what happened on 9/11.
We are in Afghanistan now because of 9/11. We would not be there if you and others would expose the evidence that proves the official story, that Afghanistan was complicit in the attacks of that day, is a lie.

So it is not just that we are just as bad as they are. All they are doing is defending themselves against foreign invaders who have told a fairytale to the world, a fairytale that the media has decided not to debunk.

Liliana, you know how evil our leadership is. What keeps you from exposing the lies of 9/11 to the public? Is it fear of loss of your career? Are there actually threats against those who consider doing that? I don't get it. The evidence is compelling and copious that the official story is bogus. Have you never really even looked at any of it?

The story that tells the coverup and lies is presented well in websites like www.ae911truth.org and www.911truth.org and other places. I don't have the time to show you all of it. You are a professional, and YOU are the one who should be explaining it all and researching it and bringing it to us. Please do it. And once the American people begin to see the truth, a great awakening will happen and it will not be long before our troops will leave Afghanistan and Iraq and we again gain the respect of the world as a place of human rights and honesty.

You can do it, Liliana. Get others to do the same.

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Erin
Posted by: Erin on May 9, 2009 5:53 AM   
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The United States is the bully of the world. Nothing changed with Mr, "change you can believe in" Obama. We are no better than our old friend Israel. These are not mistakes that we make with our bombs, and people are tired of the lies and the false apologies. Instead of stopping terrorists we are making new ones every day.

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WHY WE ARE REALLY THERE
Posted by: joeocho88 on May 9, 2009 6:05 AM   
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If you think the elites who try to turn our USA into their private fiefdom and enslave the rest of the world really buy into the drivel about "Bringing Democracy to the Middle East",then maybe you should buy a seafront lot in Arizona.

IT IS ALL ABOUT THE OPIUM POPPIES --the TRUE source of liquidity for some of the world's wealthiest families.

AND LIKE MOST DRUG GANGS, THEY WILL KILL ANYONE WHO GETS BETWEEN THEM AND THEIR MONEY.

THIS IS LIKE VIETNAM WHICH WAS FOUGHT TO MAKE THE TRADITIONAL OPIUM TRAFFICKING ROUTES OF SOUTHEAST ASIA SAFE FOR THE SAME PEOPLE.

I RESENT THE FACT THAT A LOT OF GOOD MILITARY GUYS FROM RUSSIA AND NOW THE USA WILL DIE SO THAT A FEW WEALTHY FAMILIES WHOSE WEALTH IS TIED UP IN TRUST FUNDS WILL HAVE LIQUIDITY FROM SALES OF THESE DRUGS.

WE HAVE NO BUSINESS IN AFGHANISTAN ANY MORE THAN WE DID IN VIETNAM AND WE ARE THERE FOR NEARLY THE SAME REASONS.

I CAN"T APOLOGIZE TO THE WORLD OR BRING BACK THE DEAD RELATIVES EITHER FOR THE AFGHANIS OR THE AMERICAN MILITARY PEOPLE WHOSE LIVES ARE BEING WASTED THERE FOR NOTHING!

THESE KIDS ARE INDOCTRINATED THAT THEY ARE FIGHTING FOR OUR COUNTRY AND OUR WAY OF LIFE --AND THEY ARE. BUT ONLY FOR A WEALTHY ELITE FEW WHO ARE PROFITING FROM THE DRUG TRAFFIC.

WANT TO STOP THE WARS? THEN STOP USING AND BUYING HEROIN, FOREIGN-GROWN MARIJUANA AND COCAINE. NO DEMAND. NO WARS.

EVERY TIME YOU PURCHASE DRUGS ON THE STREET, YOU ARE FINANCING THE TAKEOVER OF OUR COUNTRY BY THESE ELITES. AND YOU WON'T LIKE WHAT THEY HAVE PLANNED FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY!

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Terrorism - this country wrote the book.
Posted by: symcokid on May 9, 2009 7:29 AM   
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The Puritannical Christianist Pilgrims first terrorized the Native Indians followed next by the swarming wave of European Invaders - why else would the Indigenous people continually be ceding land to the marauding liars, thieves and murderers? So how can we be in a position to be labeling others as insurgents and terrorists - must be double standards that we live by!

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Terrorism, Torture and Sex
Posted by: ProgressiveManiac on May 9, 2009 8:14 AM   
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In the 1990's, ages ago when we used to hear the President referred to as Slick Willy, there was quite a commotion about the President equivocating about sex. His statement I did not have sex with that woman was widely ridiculed, but he no doubt felt justified in the statement by adopting a narrow but commonplace meaning for the word sex to mean copulation.

Later, there was another commotion about it depends on what the meaning of is is. No doubt he had employed a trick with language that he had learned in law school to say one thing while seeming to say another. When he testified that there is no sexual relationship he was relying on the fact that most listeners will assume he is making the grammatical error of putting the sentence in the wrong tense (anyone can see that at that very moment there is no sexual act happening, so he couldn't mean that).

All of that fuss about oral sex in the oval office seems a bit quaint after all that has happened since then. Republicans managed to paint a fairly minor offense as a high crime because the President did it. This is ironic in view of the Bush people taking Nixon's position that if the President does something it is not a crime. Possibly the meaning of doing something changes according to political party.

Sex is not the only area in which politicians play games with words, however. The Bush people have re-defined the word torture in a much less justifiable way than Clinton attempted (unsuccessfully) with the word sex. Clinton's narrow interpretation of the word, sex, corresponded to at least one of the common usages. In contrast, the Bush people have actually had some success in giving a whole new meaning to the word, torture. Some people now seem willing to accept a Nixonian redefinition of torture as something that Americans just can't do (if Americans do it, it is not torture).

This convenient approach of taking a word that denotes some act and then re-defining the word to depend for its meaning on who performs the act, has been pretty successfully applied to the word terrorist. The traditional meaning of the word is to identify someone who inflicts pain, suffering or fear on others without provocation, but a commonplace interpretation is that a terrorist is never a government or a government representative, at least not when we approve of the government in question (I seem to recall that the Libyan Dictator, Mohmar Kadafi, was sometimes referred to as a terrorist in the fairly distant past).

Presumably, if an Israeli pilot, on a mission from his government, had crashed his jet fighter into the Pentagon, or perhaps a U.S. ship, that would not be a terrorist act. If an Israeli bulldozer tears down a populated apartment building in Gaza or an Israeli pilot bombs a school or hospital that is not terrorism because it was the act of a government and we approve of that particular government. The same is, of course, true when a U.S. pilot bombs a school, wedding or hospital.

An act that would be a terrorist act if done by an individual (particularly if by a Muslim individual) would instead be collateral damage if done by a European, American or Israeli soldier. If a soldier does it, it is not a terrorist act.

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I Agree
Posted by: bill3 on May 9, 2009 11:47 AM   
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How can you blame those people for hating us. If a country was bombing the U.S. at will, we would hate them to. I've been saying this for yrs. Just b/c a few are bad doesn't make it ok to bomb that country and I don't want to hear some of you hateful people out here say, but they are terrorist, NO, they're not. But lets be real here, if you kept killing my family and friends all the time, I'm going to hate you too and hell yeah I'm going to be out to kill you and yours. So stop with the bombing U.S.

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Anthony D'Auria
Posted by: Tony D on May 9, 2009 1:11 PM   
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I'm afraid that a lot of people today are not familiar with what went on in World War II. Millions of citizens on both sides of the war were killed by bombings and no such criticisms were made. Yes, everybody disliked the war but we understood that this was reality. Now we live at a time when our fighting men are supposed to perform surgical war killing only the perpetrators. The fact that the enemy can not be distinguished from innocent civilians because they have no uniforms is unfortunate, but just maybe, the terrorists are at fault for not fighting a war where we can distinguish the fighting men from the civilians. So, those who hide among civilians should not be critical of their enemy who accidentally kill the civilians they are hiding behind. I take it as an insult that the terrorizing countries should criticize us in this respect. We don't seem to hear the same criticism when a car or suicide bomber kill their own.

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» RE: Anthony D'Auria Posted by: hilaryuk
THE EYES OF THE CHILDREN
Posted by: electriclady281 on May 9, 2009 1:52 PM   
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IT NEVER OCCURRED TO ME THAT THIS ARTICLE WOULD END AS IT DOES. I'VE PERSONALLY SEEN THAT DEAD, EMPTY, FATHOMLESS LOOK IN A CHILD'S EYES, AND IT'S GROTESQUE. I CAN'T FORGET IT; I'D TURN TO STONE IF I GOT USED TO IT.

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» RE: THE EYES OF THE CHILDREN Posted by: weathered
It won't end
Posted by: willymack on May 10, 2009 1:25 PM   
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Unless we DEMAND its end, in our millions. By snail mail, email and telephone calls, directly to the President, today, NOW.

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Barrack the charlatan Obama is now officially a war criminal
Posted by: PakiBoy on May 10, 2009 4:59 PM   
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n/t.

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You talk like you were there
Posted by: jaglover on May 11, 2009 5:39 AM   
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...and have first hand information. I'll tell you what jackass, if you hate this country so much why don't you just fuggin' leave it and go live somewhere else where you thing life is better!! Oh wait...that place doesn't exist!!!!

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» RE: You talk like you were there Posted by: MartinVeltjen
Now let’s look at reality and NOT misleading emotional nonsense.
Posted by: iris89 on May 11, 2009 3:52 PM   
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Now let’s look at reality and NOT misleading emotional nonsense.

First, Those who lit the proverbial fuse are responsible for all that follows. In this case the fuse was lit by Muslim religious leader, Sheik Osama bin Ladin and NOT America so that is where the responsibility for the results of 9/11/2001 rest. Let’s look at the facts:

Sponsors of Unprovoked Attacks and Criminal Acts Responsible For All That Occurs:

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Second, Members of the same group to which Sheik Osama bin Ladin belongs try to cover up reality, the facts, but now go learn the facts:

CONSPIRACY THEORIES THE BANE OF TRUTH

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I challenge anyone to prove any of my facts are in error!

Iris89

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