I think it is time for Alternet to get off of the destroy Hillary campaign. We are going to have to defeat John McCain in the fall and this kind of stuff is not going to help. I did not actively support either Hillary or Obama during the campaign. I didn't like alot of stuff coming out of either camp. It is pretty clear that Obama is going to be the nominee, and let's face it, it's going to be a tough sell. So let's not shoot ourselves in the foot and alienate Hillary's supporters. No repeat of 2000 and 2004. Let's be a little smarter this time. The two camps have toned down the rhetoric, can't Alternet do the same.

Richard

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Barack Obama needs her, it's that simple. The Hillary Haters have been at her since day one and it serves no purpose. Obama is smart enough not to alienate her, we shouldn't do it for him. The guy has a strategy that includes her or she would have been toast a long time ago. It's frightening to think of McCain as president. Let Obama run his own campaign, vote for him and let's not create more problems for the Dems. Lighten up please. ANNA

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Millions dead and nothing said!
Shut it off.
McBush is a A-hole just like the rest of
The Corpirate System
Vote at the pump when you pay your
WAR TAX

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The first two commentators may be right. And the video is definitely kind of sick. But this is one of those things that is funny because it is sick. I know I couldn't help laughing.

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I see the tube and the warlords of UK the Robin Hood’s time. How they come in the new land baffles me but Hillary, no she stays put, she will fight on. Go on Hillary show them the funny part if nothing else. We are with you. We need distress oops I mean de- stress ourselves.
I thank you
Firozali A. Mulla MBA PhD
P.O.Box 6044
Dar-Es-Salaam
Tanzania
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If Only - George bush would appoint Hillary and her husband to Uzbekistan as Ambassadores for 9 years before he vacates his office on the 5th June
2008.
The sooner the better - REAL Change must take place.
Just imagine we have to wait for 6 more months for
the political mafia to leave the stage

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www.discussrace.com

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......come back here! I'll bite youuuuu! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

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Ah, there was never a chess game so much fun as letting the castle capture the Queen.

Can't remember what happened to the pawns though.

Still, Monty Python is good for Monday.

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Richard wrote:

"I think it is time for Alternet to get off of the destroy Hillary campaign. We are going to have to defeat John McCain in the fall and this kind of stuff is not going to help. I did not actively support either Hillary or Obama during the campaign. I didn't like alot of stuff coming out of either camp. It is pretty clear that Obama is going to be the nominee, and let's face it, it's going to be a tough sell. So let's not shoot ourselves in the foot and alienate Hillary's supporters. No repeat of 2000 and 2004. Let's be a little smarter this time. The two camps have toned down the rhetoric, can't Alternet do the same."
Richard.

My friend, if you and I were the only two people on an elevator and one of us farted would you be confused as to which one of us had passed the gas?

Well Richard, lucid human beings all over planet earth are just that certain as to the who, what, when, where and how of this present smelly and shi**y American Democratic Party candidate nominating CRIME. President Obama is NOT guilty.

The question is not whether the Republicans will be given the Executive branch of our government for another four years but rather, how much we are willing to sacrifice to the Demon gods of White Racism and the Clintons'ego?

This thing has become a seance with priestess and priest Hillary and Bill presiding, assisted by various media and so called progressives piling offerings on the altar.

"I think it is time for Alternet to get off of the destroy Hillary campaign. We are going to have to defeat John McCain in the fall and this kind of stuff is not going to help."

You and other Kkklinton Devotees are lecturing the wrong people.

Talk to yourself and the perps of the CRIME. about the hard sell, according to you, of the 44th POTUS who had no trouble selling himself until he got to Ohio and the Clintons, like Clark Kent, became the Kkklintons and stopped campaigning for POTUS and starting organizing America's most illiterate and Racist for the new confederacy. Hillary and Bill Clinton destroyed their campaign, and the invite to those of us who refuse to scratch our backsides and ask Jesus, "What's going on?" into the roles of dumb and dumber lest we alienate the Kkklinton supporters rings more hollow every day. Take your extortion someplace else. Bullies make Threats. The world doesn't like threats or bullies.

Do you not know that the game plan of the Kkklintons is to aleinate "their" supporters so McCain will get the most votes in November? Alienation is all that's left isn't it? How clever.

Why did Bill muscle PR into moving their date to June 1st and switching from Caucus because Caucus is suddenly "UNFAIR" to his damsel in distress even though he (Bill) got elected twice in this "UNFAIR system??????

Enough of the inane lectures and American White Racism and Necon-federate and Republican Fascism....."BUDDY."

Alright?

You got any more bright ideas why we can't all just get along?

http://www.redroom.com/video/
tim-wise-creation-whiteness-clip

Gee Thanks.

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Offensive. As a contributor to both AlterNet and Brave New Films, I'm disgusted that you have stooped to this level. Enough hacking and chewing on Hillary. This century has been beyond outrage. McCain promises more of the same. If you must form a viscious pack, save your incisors. Cut and tear where it counts.

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I thought this is supposed to be the "Alternet" where I can go for unbiased news. All I ever see here is Hillary bashing. I guess this is the same as Fox News but in reverse. At least with them you know it's the right wing BS bashing Hillary. With you, it's the left wing continuing its own misogynist campaign. WTF? Get it together Alternet and start supporting the people (both people) who share similar views and are looking for accurate info, not more hateful garbage. You don't see the Hillary fans bashing Obama.... Enough already or you might as well join the McCain party. Enough said.

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Hillary needs to be carted off like the old peasant in the beginning of the movie.

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I'm a big fan of Alternet, and a sometimes-fan of Monty Python, but I never did care for the times when their humor was based on gory mutilation. I don't think that's funny, and I'm disappointed in Alternet for posting it.

But it's still a somewhat close race -- Obama's new politics has passed Clinton's machine politics or "old boys network" (sorry, but that's the conventional term, regardless of her gender), but not by much. It now looks evident that Obama will get the required number of delegates and Clinton will not, but that won't be a certainty until it happens. People can talk about what they think is likely -- if I were a betting man, I'd bet heavily on Obama at this point -- but we're all just guessing until it actually happens. It's not the all-out slaughter depicted in the video.

Although I thought this particular video was in poor taste, I think that Alternet usually shows good taste in its attacks on Clinton. And I don't see anything wrong about such attacks. Alternet doesn't claim to be "neutral," and is under no obligation to be neutral. And what does "neutral" mean, anyway? It means you pick two positions, define those to be the extremes of the range that you want to consider, and then call the point in the middle "neutral." But different people would make different choices of where the two extremes are, and thus would come up with different positions for "neutral." If you let Fox News define "neutral," it's going to be somewhare between very conservative and very very conservative. But back when Dennis Kucinich was running for president, he had a different way of defining neutral. When he was accused of being in "the loony left," he responded something like, "no, the polls show that the American public agrees with me on just about everything. So I'm in the center, and all the other candidates are right wingers."

Alternet is very much a progressive organization, with well-rounded progressive values; it is feminist but it doesn't put feminism ahead of everything else; it wants to promote its values and win but it doesn't put that ahead of fair play. I think the Alternet ideology, like my own, has many strong reasons to prefer Obama over Clinton. Clinton may call herself progressive because she thinks it's a fashionable label, but she hasn't lived up to it.

And although it would be good if we could all work together, I don't think that means surrender or even necessarily compromise, and I hope that Obama will not take Clinton on as V.P. Clinton believes in moving toward an imagined center in the hope of picking up more votes, but Lakoff and Waldman have explained that such a tactic merely proves to voters that you don't really believe in anything. That's what has cost Democrats most elections in recent decades. Robert Creamer's new book gives a good summary of that idea. Obama is winning because, instead of moving toward the center, he sticks with what he believes in, and thereby moves the center, but tries to understand his opponents enough so that he can work with them. And in this divided country, few of us do understand our opponents, but I think Obama is one of the few people smart enough to be able to make that strategy work.

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In fact, it's an outrageous, suggestive video of the sort I'd expect from the Right Wing Attack Machine. I'm an Edwards supporter who chose Hillary after he withdrew from the race because I believe her proposed policies would be better for our nation, but I'd be just as upset if Hillary's supporters launched such attacks on Obama. I thought we liberals were supposed to be better than a good many of us apparently are. Shame on you for proliferating such hatred, Alternet.

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I was saddened and discouraged as I watched this video. I have such strong values about contributing to peace on the planet by being peace - the experience I want to see in the world. This video does not match the experience I want to see. How are we different than those we wish to move out of the oval office and halls of congress if we continue to use the same frames, metaphors and strategies? In the history of the world, violence only begets more violence - always. Gandhi said, "As human beings, our greatness lies not so much in being able to remake the world – that is the myth of the ‘atomic age’ – as in being able to remake ourselves." If more of us focused on that, I believe we would be changing the world... with peace...

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how about we end the whole "I'm a victim" thing now? Obama is about change, but in reality that change has to start with each of us - which means: LIGHTEN UP. Let's put an end to the conspiracy theories of everyone and his/her mother and look at what we've been missing.

This video was tasteless. And of no service to anyone. This video and your virulent response all play into the reasons why we don't get along.

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This really isn't funny, especially the bloody aspect. I support Obama, but I insist we treat Sen. Clinton with honor; she has earned it.
James W. Hauser

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I am a Ol' 'Clintonian' - a 'liberal ' who was willing to see the benefit of compromise throughtout the '90's - don't Ask Don't Tell- a Step forward (small), NAFTA a necessary step towards globalization (MI resident-A Major concession).But Hillary has shown ME in uncompromising fashion the Folly of my support. Her Votes, Her lack of Oversight duties while on the Armed Services, her lack of conviction regarding the crimes committed by this Administration (failing to Use the Clout she had when we needed it) and most Disturbing her Behavior on the campaign trail.I find her to be a treasonous to OUR party as Liebermann-ALSO A DLC MEMBER (who have proven THEY can not Sell the Deal fro the whitehouse)The Blue Arm of the NeoCONS.
Over the last 6 yrs I have not only begun to HATE her , Over the last few months I have begun to FEAR her- 'Obliterate Iran' 'RFK assassination to explain why she is staying in -3 TIMES!!!She is a Cheney Protege, If Not Actually DICK IN DRAG! There is no Such thing as a 'Reagan Democrat'!!!Infiltrators who will destroy OUR Party just as they Did the Old Republican Party. If the DNC hands her the MI Delegates, If they hand her th enomination or grant her the VP position I WILL NEVER VOTE DEM AGAIN! The people who are Still supporting her are either Blind 'Feminists', Covert Neo Cons,or illiterate, small minded Racists.These are not Democrats..we stand for Labor rights, equal rights,Political Accountablity,Diplomacy and As Stewards of the Planet.It is time we Kick the 'DLC'ers", those misnomers, Oxymoron 'Reagan Democrats' OUT of the REAL Democratic Party- they are literally killing US

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Special elections were swept by democrats in staunchly republican cores, biggest turnouts of political rallies since...

the talk everywhere is how the democrats will completely dominate the house and senate in November... the talk is about the size of the democratic majority, not if their will be a democratic control of the house and senate... which i tend to agree, 8 years of Bush and Republicanism has shown the voters the absolute greed graft and corruptibility of Republicanism

All this points to a democratic sweep come this November... and with Obama clinching the democratic presidential nod, all that I'm waiting to see is... is Amerika actually willing to let a person of color lead them out of the current dark pit that the Bush team has lead the entire free world down...

Something tells me that Obama will loose come November because he's a Black man running for the highest office in a predominately WASP land.
if he gets elected President in November, then to me the US has finally moved beyond its past and is plowing ahead into the future...

It's so stupid yet so scary that this mindset prevails...
but something in me tells me that Mccain will win because America isn't yet willing to let a person of color lead them even though he is [without a doubt] the best person in the running that actually has the ability and is able to make a difference and repair the damage that 35 years of republican lead leadership has done to people everywhere.

I just hope voters will base there vote on ability and not on party or ideology, because a divided people is the cause of stalemated political machines and makes decisive action impossible when decisive actions is whats badly needed now!

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Taking the scene from Monty Python's movie was perfect for what is happening in this primary. I am with all of those who have said that it is not the news media and the Obama campaign who are lashing out, but Hillary herself and her husband...what's his name. Bob Herbert said it right, the Clintons have NO shame.

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hire his own security...somebody like Blackwater. How can the FBI and Secret Service be trusted with Hillary sending them subliminal messages and hints to assassinate Obama?

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