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Clinton's Argument for Staying in Race Takes a Disturbing Turn

Posted by ZP Heller, Huffington Post at 2:10 PM on May 23, 2008.


What does RFK's assassination have to do with it?

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From HuffPo:

Hillary Clinton's argument for staying in the race took a disturbing turn today. While meeting with the editorial board of South Dakota's Sioux Falls Argus-Leader, she raised the specter of assassination while discussing why she would stay in the race: "My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it."

The Obama camp has offered the following response to Sen. Clinton's comments: "Senator Clinton's statement before the Argus Leader editorial board was unfortunate and has no place in this campaign," said Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton.

The Clinton camp is denying any implications beyond historical comparison in her reference to Bobby Kennedy's assassination: "She was simply referencing her husband in 1992 and Bobby Kennedy in 1968 as historic examples of the nominating process going well into the summer. Any reading into beyond that would be inaccurate and outrageous."

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ZP Heller is the editorial director of Brave New Films. He has written for The American Prospect, AlterNet, The Philadelphia Inquirer, and The Huffington Post, covering everything from politics to pop culture.


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this woman is sick
Posted by: Moira61 on May 23, 2008 2:52 PM   
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Just when I think she can't sink any lower...this.
If I were Obama, I'd be stepping up my security. She's disgusting.

» Stepping up security . . . Posted by: dustdevil
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» RE: this woman is sick Posted by: Bob Horn
» RE: this woman is sick Posted by: djnoll
» RE: this woman is sick Posted by: Quannah
Somehow
Posted by: Artkansas on May 23, 2008 2:52 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The group the "Dead Kennedys" comes to mind.

Another cheap shot from Hillary especially considering the timing.

Come on...
Posted by: lamar777 on May 23, 2008 2:59 PM   
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I am a Obama supporter and Hilary is no saint but thats a stretch to believe she would be so calculated. She was just citing 2 memorable examples of primaries that went until June. There are plenty of things we can fault her for but this is a bit out of hand.

» Apples and oranges Posted by: xconservative
» RE: Apples and oranges Posted by: Quannah
» RE: Apples and oranges Posted by: Sissy
» RE: Apples and oranges Posted by: Quannah
» RE: Come on... Posted by: appleton14
» RE: Come on... Posted by: helenwheels
» RE: Come on... Posted by: Quannah
» RE: Come on... Posted by: lamac66
Cheap shot
Posted by: improperly_sedated on May 23, 2008 3:03 PM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
And I'm not talking about Hillary.

Look, I'm about as anti-Clinton as a person can get without being a Republican. I've viewed this primary as "anyone but Clinton" from the very beginning.

But that was an entirely innocuous statement on her part. She's just talking about a history of primaries that were resolved in June.

Get a grip.

» RE: Cheap shot- Yeah Hers! Posted by: LeslieGem
» Yes, there is a point Posted by: Artkansas
» RE: Cheap shot Posted by: claude
orionsan
Posted by: orionsan on May 23, 2008 3:44 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Let me see here...
There is no California primary in June.
So what other hypotheticals do we have?
I was waiting for her to pull this particular stunt. Predictable - plausible deniability - run this one through next weeks news cycle. She should be ashamed of herself. She is smart enough to know the implications of her remarks. Do you think there is anyone in this country who would have heard that statement and not made certain connections? She can stay in the race if she wants, but she can't undo the fact of who she has become. A lame duck candidate. I hope Al Gore jumps in if anything happens, especially after this comment of hers.

» RE: orionsan Posted by: zorba1
» RE: orionsan Posted by: Catherine Anne Smith
Not unprecedented
Posted by: orionsan on May 23, 2008 3:47 PM   
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Just ask Ralph Nader

Seems to ALWAYS BE 'MIS SPEAKING"!
Posted by: Kimmy on May 23, 2008 3:58 PM   
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this is the type of President we need AGAIN?!?!
Of course I Do NOT Beleive this 'mistake' Either. And considering this is not the first time she has envoked the Assasination of RFK into this Race- I'm convinced she is trying to Provoke It!!!
She gives a BS excuse, 'apologizes' to the kennedy Family and the Country for bringing up such a devastating time in our History-BUT NEVER AP0LOGIZED TO SEN OBAMA OR HIS FAMILY FOR THE INNUENDO!!!!! Anything happens to Sen Obama- I will point my finger Right at Her & Bill and the Rest of the DLC.
The only division in th eDem party is th eone th eDLC is causing intentionally. They are pushing for Hillary to be VP because the last 2 DLC'ers couldn't 'Seal the Deal' so she wants to ride a real Dem's coat tail into the White House.
She and the Rest fo the DLC REEK of Corporatism, the Blue Arm of the Neo CONS!!!
This is the Year WE Old Dems kick their dying asses Out of OUR PARTY!! No such thing as a 'Reagan Democrat' (union buster, AIDS epidemic enabler, White collar crime with Numerous victims Promoter, Out of control MIC, and Religious fanatic infiltrators Puppet..not to mention Cheney'Rummy & Wolfies Puppet too!!!)
DLC Players- Bil & Hill, Feinstein, McAulffe, H.Ford, Edwards, Gore, Kerry - find a list on line and see why You too may have been confused about their party affiliation.
This is a Fight between the Real Dems and the covert operatives who have invaded It!

» RE: Seems to ALWAYS BE 'MIS SPEAKING"! Posted by: Catherine Anne Smith
Two Times Two Equals Zero
Posted by: Ptah on May 23, 2008 5:49 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Do you remember how Hillary lied twice about the Bosnian airport escapade? She was caught on her second go round with the bogus under fire story and then the first lie came out. Now the Obama-RFK statement, and it turns out that she had said it earlier as well. This is not a slip of the tongue or of the Freud. This is a well calculated fear mongering for votes, or worse.

» RE: Two Times Two Equals Zero Posted by: Catherine Anne Smith
This may go a little deeper . . .
Posted by: dustdevil on May 23, 2008 6:09 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
than what is on the surface. I know I have worried about Obama's safety. Now we have Huckabee joking that "someone pointed a gun at Obama" at an NRA speech he gave. Hillary mentions Bobby Kennedy, who was similar to Obama in his progressive beliefs. Bobby, like his brother was murdered by someone within the government. His security guard, switched at the last minute, fired a bullet into his head three inches behind his ear. Sirhan never got within three feet of him. Hillary and Huckabee
are, in my opinion making not so subtle suggestions of what they wish for.

» Not Bobby but John Posted by: Lloyd Drako
» RE: Not Bobby but John Posted by: Prairie Waif
SHE KNOWS, YOU KNOW
Posted by: DR. LARRY MITCHELL on May 23, 2008 6:12 PM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Barack Obama seems headed for the same fate as RFK, as I've stated elsewhere on this site. They'll let him win the nomination, but they'll grease him in the kitchen immediately afterward. And HILLARY will swoop in and save us...after all, didn't she ALMOST win? And after 2000 and 2004, almost winning is a "mandate from the people."

She is a blue Republican. She knows where the bodies are buried. She just told us- unintentionally- what hasn't happened yet.

» RE: SHE KNOWS, YOU KNOW Posted by: Catherine Anne Smith
First of all, I'm an Obama supporter.... but
Posted by: ohb0b on May 23, 2008 6:19 PM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I'm tired of the media taking everything a politician says out of context, like Senator McCain's "100 years in Iraq" comment, or Obama's "they cling to guns and religion out of bitterness" not to mention Reverend Wright's "God damn America" sermon.

Even practiced politicians aren't always adept at expressing themselves. Clinton was using both her husband's and Bobby Kennedy's examples of candidates who sewed up their nomination in June. Bobby Kennedy was assassinated minutes after he made his acceptance speech for the Democratic nomination. This is a historical fact. (I didn't remember the exact date, but I assume it was in the month of June)

» here's my own cheap shot... Posted by: claude
» Bobby Kennedy Posted by: Lloyd Drako
» RE: First of all, I'm an Obama supporter.... but Posted by: Catherine Anne Smith
Hillary Cracked Up
Posted by: bessie on May 23, 2008 6:36 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Just when you'd think that Hillary is finished demonstrating her dark side - it gets a lot darker. Her other references ' to an act of God' were creepy but now she has further defined herself. She thinks like a gangster with all the heart and sensitivity of one. Her apology was equally empty. She's incapable of admitting or realizing her mistakes. But what's really disturbing is that she is speaking like a very sick person who is totally immoral and without remorse. It's time for the Super delegates to put this horror story away. We need to move on and to focus on the problems that most of us our facing. Hillary should also face some sanctions from the DNC. She's not fit to hold political office with her references to violence and assassinations. Sad really to think that our first powerful woman candidate for the presidency is mentally ill.

» RE: Hillary Cracked Up Posted by: DR. LARRY MITCHELL
» RE: Hillary Cracked Up Posted by: bessie
» RE: Hillary Cracked Up Posted by: carrie jean
» RE: Hillary Cracked Up Posted by: Catherine Anne Smith
Did Doris Lessing and Hilary get the same Bilderberg Memo ?
Posted by: DeaconJ on May 23, 2008 9:06 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Nobel Prize winner Doris Lessing believes Barack Obama would be assassinated if he were elected U.S. president, the British writer said in a newspaper interview.
USATODAY Article

And how ironic the Bilderberg group are meeting in Washington D.C. June 5th-8th
Bilderberg Meeting June 5th-8th

I second the notion of beefing up security. None of those hollywood ex-mossauds or CIA agents. Not trustworthy.

Obama needs
Posted by: carrie jean on May 23, 2008 9:59 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
the pope-mobile.

I am afraid to watch him on TV. He should refuse to speak in public... it is that scarey. I am serious

Look out - sniper fire!:O
Posted by: hurricane hugo on May 23, 2008 10:24 PM   
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You should teach him how to duck, Hillary...oh, wait...

jdfu!

Gemajabe
Posted by: gemajabe on May 24, 2008 4:36 AM   
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Thank you to all the Obama supporters on this site who did not bite the mainstream media's latest attempt to demonize Hillary Clinton.

» RE: Gemajabe Posted by: mnascimento
» RE: Gemajabe Posted by: Catherine Anne Smith
» RE: Gemajabe Posted by: beaubeau
» RE: Gemajabe Posted by: Cooltruth
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NOW LOOK!
Posted by: Kuressaare on May 24, 2008 5:27 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Can you read English or not? she said what,? and you think she didn't mean anything about maybe an assassination? Are you born yesterday? You never read "Beckett" or heard of the king asking "who will rid me of this pesky priest?" Just what in blazes does it sound like she meant? She has not shied away from that last crap about "hardworking people, white people," not finding someone like Obama to be worthy material, I think she will not shy away from anything. And things you don't get to hear about there, but we do, (we hear it on CBC then note its absence on all the U.S. networks, happens every day, you people are CENSORED) did you even hear when finally the Bushites had to put on more secret service types to guard Mr. Obama and his family? They didn't even have the decency to have it done before. I tell you I am disgusted, I know of MILLIONS of Americans overseas and not to mention those at home who are disgusted, not to mention ashamed. And if this were only not one of about ten articles I have come across dealing with assassination, all focused on one man.

» RE: NOW LOOK! Posted by: Catherine Anne Smith
Exceeptionally Stupid
Posted by: skywolf64 on May 24, 2008 5:46 AM   
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Clinton's comments were exceptionally stupid.

A President, at least one who is worthy of the title, needs to watch every word that comes tumbling out their mouth. A simple statement can be taken to mean something entirely different than intended. Wars can be started. People can die from the misstatements of an American President.

While, under the best of circumstances, the PResident is still human, with all the frailties associated with our species, Clinton's statement is very untoward, given the allegations of her and Bill Clinton's heavy handed dealing with political opponents, including the questionable "Suicide" of Vince Foster and others who ended up dead under very questionable circumstances. I'm not saying these things did in fact happen, but there is nothing that I've seen that adequately dispelled the reports of the Clinton's involvement in this. I have to wonder if this is a veiled threat, or is she just trying to invoke a fear factor?

This and other misstatements on Clinton's part shows she's not qualified to be President. It's a shame. She has done damage to the efforts of women to be fully equal to men in her failure to be real.

Skywolf

» RE: xceeptionally Stupid Posted by: Cooltruth
» RE: xceeptionally Stupid Posted by: Catherine Anne Smith
It comes down to ...
Posted by: captain sassy on May 24, 2008 6:34 AM   
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... whether she's smart enough to commit that as well-placed innuendo, or dumb enough to not realize the implications.

Either way, I wouldn't touch her with someone ELSE'S ten-foot pole.

And, for the record, I believe she absolutely knew what she was doing. Too many times has this kind of crap spilled out of Billary's mouths.

» RE: It comes down to ... Posted by: Catherine Anne Smith
Other Overlooked Information
Posted by: Freticat on May 24, 2008 7:03 AM   
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What Clinton and many other people seem to have missed (it didn't get past Keith Olbermann, though) is that in 1992 and 1968, all the primaries and caucuses, even Iowa and New Hampshire, were held much later than they are now. This meant that June of 2008 has no comparison to June of any previous election year.

To paraphrase a current cliche, "April is the new June". Furthermore, this time around the campaigning has been running throught 2007, making this the longest election year yet. At this rate, the 2020 primaries will be in full swing before the presidential inauguration of 2017.

» While we're at it, Posted by: Lloyd Drako
» RE: Other Overlooked Information Posted by: Catherine Anne Smith
Get out of the race
Posted by: backyardbbq on May 24, 2008 7:07 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
It’s time for the neo-con corporatist Hillary to get out of the race for the White House. At this time if you whiny Clinton supporters want to vote for McBush rather than Obama, then you deserve the continued Republican death and destruction. That’s exactly what you will get.

» RE: Get out of the race Posted by: Catherine Anne Smith
Again with the code
Posted by: jebpgh on May 24, 2008 7:45 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
What are we going to do with Hillary? How many ways can she come into the room and just make a mess out of everything? I swear she is like some little spoiled Eloise who isn't going to get what she wanted. We got the not so subtle "I can speak to white racists - and you can't" speech after we finally got it right that her husband was not infact the first black president, then the indirect reach around on how gay Obama's supporters are from San Fran Cis Co, then we have the "I dodged bullets under fire" mis-lead, she goes and goes and goes --- all to do what? This latest is just one of those throw up your hands and hit your head into the wall kind of moments. It must take all the grace and kindness of Obama not to draw even more attention to it. Instead he has gracefully let it pass - again. Even when Obama went down to Florida to campaign, she followed him - never mind that the primary is over there and she won (as she tirelessly points out). It grinds me that the HIllary commentators all seem to think she is getting trashed when they are doing all the trashing.

I have run out of patience waiting for Hillary to make a graceful exit - that doesn't seem to be in any part of her thinking. Unbelievable.

» RE: Again with the code Posted by: Catherine Anne Smith
Ghoulish
Posted by: bettyn on May 24, 2008 8:23 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Sen. Clinton's remarks seem ghoulish to me. Invoking the word "assassination" in reference to Obama plays on a fear many of us, particularly African Americans, have had ever since Obama announced his candidacy. Bringing up Robert Kennedy in the same week his younger brother has been diagnosed with terminal brain cancer makes it even worse.

» RE: Ghoulish Posted by: Catherine Anne Smith
Please read RFK Jr. press release
Posted by: domelady on May 24, 2008 8:33 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Robert Kennedy Jr., who endorses Hillary not that anyone would know since the media payed little attention to this Kennedy endorsement, stated that no offense should be taken by this remark. Who better to speak for the remark about his father than his oldest son. His reason for endorsing Hillary, "she is the candidate who best embodies the spirit of his father and uncle" Who should be the best judge of this spirit? The son who knew him best. And has been raised to embody that spirit himself, his life's work has been providing real help for the underpriveledged outside of government influence.

This outrage by Obama is another overreaction to any statement that questions his path to the candidacy. He is offended by anything that questions his path. He better buckle up and hang on because this has been childs, play when the republicans are finished with him he will understand that people have a right to know who they are electing and up until now if anyone questions him he's offended. and demands an apology. Good luck Apology season is over.

» RE: Please read RFK Jr. press release Posted by: captain sassy
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» RE: Please read RFK Jr. press release Posted by: Catherine Anne Smith
» RE: Please read RFK Jr. press release Posted by: Catherine Anne Smith
Getting to be quite the trend, this assassination 'hinting'
Posted by: helenwheels on May 24, 2008 8:47 AM   
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Call me crazy, but invoking assassination TWICE and then sending out a flyer with Obama's head near the end of the gun barrel is a bit too much of a freudian slip for me.

http://bdweb307444.bluedomino.com/blogphotos/obamagun2.jpg

Check it out. I saved it for posterity. Many say it's nothing but the second I saw it, I was taken aback. Then, throw in Huckabee's "joke" about Obama ducking a gun. It's becoming a theme, and it's under-reported if anything.

Hilary (Tanya Harding) Clinton
Posted by: Bob Horn on May 24, 2008 8:51 AM   
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Hilary and Tanya, if you think your ctitics question your fitness for the job because you are a woman, then you are wrong. We are tired of you because you either use lead pipes on the knees of opponents or send out the sounds from the dog whistle to your supporters to use lead bullets. All superdelegates who don't end this drama today should be put on trial with her. She belongs in prison and if anything happens to Barack all superdelegates who haven't voted yet need to get the same punishment as her (the maximum for whatever crime they do next).

» RE: Hilary (Tanya Harding) Clinton Posted by: helenwheels
» Hillary and Tanya = Tillya Posted by: Moira61
» RE: Hillary and Tanya = Tillya Posted by: Cooltruth
» RE: Hilary (Tanya Harding) Clinton Posted by: Catherine Anne Smith
Yes, part of a pattern....and one of which the Obama camp should be ashamed.
Posted by: DR202 on May 24, 2008 9:03 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I'd like to state up-front that I have no horse yet in this race, being for neither Ms. Clinton nor Mr. Obama. So a passion for one or the other of the candidates plays no role in what I'm about to say:

From my perspective, once again, Obama's campaign is feigning insult and outrage in order to deliberately fan the flames of racism -- all in order to shore up his already-strong support among African-Americans. This also benefits him by allowing him to play the "victim" card, in hopes of earning sympathy votes among all the electorate. And this is a despicable act that deserves to be called what it is: shameful.

Dissecting every nuance of every syllable of every word ever uttered by an opponent is not a great hallmark worthy of any American leader. Instead, it's the trait of one who believes in an "us" vs. "them" approach of dividing and conquering...and we've seen enough of that over these past 7 years.

It's time to end this overly sensitive political atmosphere of reading too much into opponents' words, continually demanding silly apologies with every breath, and get on with the business of addressing the real, substantive issues in this campaign. Otherwise, we have no chance of prevailing in November. Grow up! The American people deserve much better.

» RE: It was a very mild rebuke, considering... Posted by: Catherine Anne Smith
» No horse in the race? Posted by: dustdevil
» The Great and Powerful Oz-bama? Posted by: westomoon
» Gee, thanks, Mom/Dad! Posted by: westomoon
» RE: Gee, thanks, Mom/Dad! Posted by: bluepilgrim
» RE: Gee, thanks, Mom/Dad! Posted by: bluepilgrim
“Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned,
Posted by: saywhat on May 24, 2008 9:25 AM   
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Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned.”
Quote, William Congreve
“We shall find no fiend in hell can match the fury of a disappointed woman.”
Quote, Colley Cibber

» Leave gender out of it, Posted by: Lloyd Drako
It's not Kennedy, it the assassination reference
Posted by: sjosephs on May 24, 2008 9:37 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Anyone with a knowledge of history knows that those who go up against corporate interests are vulnerable to assassination. John Perkins points this out in "Confessions of an Economic Hitman." In this country it's not usually done by the jackals themselves. They point out to some deranged soul that at, say, 2:00 on Tuesday, there is a vulnerability in security coverage through the back door kitchen entrance...

Did Hillary pick an example of a candidate, for personal reasons, having to bow out at the last minute as her reason for soldiering on? No, she reached for an assassination example. I don't know what passes for thought in her brain, but whatever it is, it would make Machiavelli glow with pride.

I think people see what they want to see . . .
Posted by: Scientz on May 24, 2008 9:56 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
. . . and I think this is very indicative of those loose cannons who are predisposed to conspiracy theory.

If Hillary really was the type of ruthless Machiavellian who would seek to have Obama assassinated à la Bobby Kennedy, she certainly wouldn't also be the type to foolishly (subliminally?) announce such a thing on television.

I'm firmly with the "get a grip" posters on this one, and, I might add, a rabid (yet rational) Obama supporter.

» More likely . . . Posted by: dustdevil
» RE: More likely . . . Posted by: DreamFast
Not calculated, just cuckoo
Posted by: nomomorons on May 24, 2008 10:12 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Hillary's bizarre, narcissistic behavior is no longer defendable; it is time for her to go, and past time for the superdelegates to show the leadership of their honored position and step up to the plate on this.

Say goodbye, Hillary.

SHE KNOWS SOMETHING WE DON'T
Posted by: DR. LARRY MITCHELL on May 24, 2008 10:42 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
"Stay in the race, baby. We'll get him killed for you. After all, I owe you for the Monica thing."

She's done everything but name the exact time and place while making trigger gesticulations with her hand while clearing her throat.

an 'innocent' comment wouldn't have used the word ASSASINATION!
Posted by: Voicedude on May 24, 2008 11:20 AM   
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She talked about her husband running until June. If there was 'no other subtle message', she would've then said 'and Bobby Kennedy also sewed it up in June. So have others...' No, she instead brought up ASSASINATION - completely out of the blue! This was not an isolated mistake or slip of the tongue. She's made these comments several times before - just not on video!

'It was just a part of historical fact'? So were Bill's BJs under the desk, but she didn't bring THOSE up! Hmmmmm..... Check out Keith Olbermann's comments and see if there's much to disagree with. It's not just the comments, but the context and the timing (two weeks before RFK's 40th anniversary and mere days after Ted's cancer news).

I don't believe she was delibeately trying to incite the nutjobs, but I DO believe she was trying to rekindle the FEAR that some voters have about voting for a black candidate. Which IS why Powell's wife wouldn't let him run, and the very thing that was brought up after Obama anoounced his run. That fearmongering is right out of the GOP handbook, which she clearly has been reading, because she'll do ANYTHING to win...

Lou Branch
Posted by: loubranch on May 24, 2008 11:39 AM   
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I will give Hillary the benefit of the doubt this time. She should NOT have invoked Bobby Kennedy's
name. For the good of everyone---GET OUT OF THE RACE---NOW before you lose all credibility!

» Too late! Posted by: Moira61
She knows EXACTLY what she is doing!
Posted by: Clockwise Cat on May 24, 2008 12:06 PM   
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Even my boyfriend disagrees with me that the eerie undertones of her comment were unintentional, but I don't buy it for a second. The Clintons are sick pyschopaths, more dangerous than any Republican, ultimately, because they POSE as compassionate progressives. But deep down they are darkly disturbed and disturbing people.

BTW, I'm not an Obama supporter. I support Nader and supported Kucinich. The only TRUE progressives.

But mark my words: Hillary is maniacally desperate enough to want to see Obama assassinated.

The Dems have reached a new terrifying low, and I blame their rabid supporters for complicity in allowing their party to sink to such abysmal depths. Hold them to higher ideals for once!

Otherwise, you get what you deserve.

Bravery and Determination
Posted by: macdon1 on May 24, 2008 12:44 PM   
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Barack Obama has been getting death threats from the day he declared his candidacy, so this is what the man is living with every day as he campaigns. If he is attacked by an assassin this country will explode into what might well become our second civil war. Of course that would give the fascist far right the chance they have been waiting for. All the mechanisms are in place to turn this country into a full-fledged police state run by a dictator. Extreme? Maybe. Possible? Absolutely.

» I have been expecting . . . Posted by: dustdevil
She better wish....
Posted by: loneswaneast on May 24, 2008 12:55 PM   
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She better wish nothing actually happens to Obama now. It certainly does explain her insistence on staying in play...waiting in the wings to fill in after an unfortunate accident. Anyone who does not perceive the very real threat that anyone who challenges the vested interests faces is simply naive. You can bet there are plenty of people who would feel it their duty to protect the corporatocracy by any means. The ends justifies the means.
Perhaps she and Bill know something is in the works and that is why she is so convinced this ticket is hers. It really does explain it. She and Huckabee can guffaw and share a cigar....what a player she has become! She shows she can swim with the sharks! As a woman, it embarrasses me....to become as shitty as corrupted men is not what I fought for.

Does ALL the media have to suck!?
Posted by: artifax on May 24, 2008 2:24 PM   
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I truly expect the right-wing media's corporate hacks to make distractive mountains out of molehills, ignoring context and avoiding seeing the point in a comment. But when the left grabs something like this, which was clearly about JUNE (and what made RFK's June candidacy clearly memorable), not grabbing some calculated form of sympatico, I see the writer as just pedaling blather to make a living.

If you really have to write something to keep your job going, I GUESS you could pick on this PC kind of crap, but please don't believe your own BS. You have the clip in front of you. It was off the cuff about JUNE. I'm sick of media molehills forcing apologies that didn't have to be offered in the first place.

So please stop being a hack reporter and tell us about some REAL issue rather than one you and other reporters make up from nothing.

Fourth strike
Posted by: westomoon on May 24, 2008 3:39 PM   
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In his Special Comment on this topic, Keith Olbermann aired the previous three times Clinton has referenced the June assassination of RFK, starting in March of this year. Yesterday's remark was not new for her, she just got a free pass from the media on the other three.

The media might have rescinded the free pass because making the reference two days after Ted Kennedy got his death sentence was in remarkably bad taste? Don't know.

I think the general creeped-out reaction to this has been because it reveals a rather peculiar inner landscape -- violent, dramatic, apocalyptic, with Hillary in the kind of hero role that children fantasize for themselves. The Bosnian-sniper-fire misstatement/delusion was unnerving for the same reason -- not so much because people thought she was deliberately lying, but more because it seemed like a particularly violent fantasy life was seeping into reality in a rather disturbing manner.

Hillary speak
Posted by: realveive on May 24, 2008 3:53 PM   
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I guess poor Hillary stepped in it again. She's staying in the race because something bad might happen to the other guy. Using that logic, Kucinich, Biden, Edwards, etc, should all have stayed in until June because something bad might have happened to the other Dem candidates. Lord knows lightning strikes, boats sink, planes crash, cars collide, and there's even the occasional assassin who makes the scene. Perhaps the Republicans will catch onto this reasoning. Given McCain's performance of late, I'm sure his former GOP competitors are regarding their departures as premature.

Sick of Hillary Bashing
Posted by: Calracci on May 24, 2008 5:51 PM   
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Everything Hillary says is twisted so why should this be any different? It's getting to the point where it's really disgusting how innocent remarks are taken out of context. If this was Obama or our illustrious Republican contender, it would have been ignored or understood for what it was! Get a life!

» RE: Sick of Hillary Bashing Posted by: Cooltruth
» RE: Sick of Hillary Bashing Posted by: helenwheels
Foreshadowing events to come?
Posted by: shinnam on May 24, 2008 6:23 PM   
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It seems that we are watching theater unfold, with the foreshadowing of events to come. From the press pooh, poohing, the possibility of assassination to the recent “slips” by Clinton and Huckabee, the stage is being set. Instead of dismissing the threats, we need to be talking to our friends and neighbors about peace and tolerance within the US. Maybe, maybe we can prevent a tragedy with ramifications as immense as 9-11.

"The How Else Can I Offend You Tour"
Posted by: westomoon on May 24, 2008 8:01 PM   
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Have to share this excellent piece from the Wall St Journal. It's actually about the political styles of female heads of state, but contains this wonderful paragraph:

Where to begin? One wants to be sympathetic to Mrs. Clinton at this point, if for no other reason than to show one's range. But her last weeks have been, and her next weeks will likely be, one long exercise in summoning further denunciations. It is something new in politics, the How Else Can I Offend You Tour. And I suppose it is aimed not at voters -- you don't persuade anyone by complaining in this way, you only reinforce what your supporters already think -- but at history, at the way history will tell the story of the reasons for her loss.

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Are We Unnecessariy Being Too Hard Here
Posted by: Nez46 on May 25, 2008 4:42 AM   
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While neither of these two candidates are my first choice for a progressive America, I am probably aligned more with Obama than anyone else in the Dem camp if Kucinich isn't able to garner enough support. With that said however, perhaps we are being just a bit hasty in jumping to the conclusion of an inference by Clinton here.

The other thing we Americans must face is that rampant racism and bigotry not only exist in our country, these two hatreds borne of ignorance and stupidity thrive in some parts of the country. I recently moved to the South from California and have never seen such entrenched, seething hatred among the races. There are people down here who would unhesitatingly kill Obama given the chance, simply because of the color of his skin, and they have proven that before with great, African American leaders.

Obama I am sure realizes this about some of our more ignorant and moronic citizenry and I am sure he realizes there is a very real possibility of at least an attempt on his life; perhaps far more so than on Ms. Clinton's. Public figures chalk this up to coming with the territory but there may be a heightened risk for Obama and only an idealist would think otherwise.

» You're not getting it Posted by: foreverhope
Another slip of the tongue !!!!
Posted by: cdcmtotr on May 25, 2008 6:08 PM   
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