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Are Conservatives in Canada Coordinating with US Right Wingers to Defeat the Dems?

Posted by Chris Bowers, Open Left at 6:23 AM on March 4, 2008.


Is conservative Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper trying to sabotage Barack Obama's campaign?
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Remember the moment in the final 2004 debate when Bush said he wouldn't appoint any Supreme Court Justices who would overturn the Dred Scott case? It sounded exceptionally strange at the time, but it had a hidden meaning: Bush was indicating that he would only appoint Justices who sought to overturn Roe vs. Wade.

I bring this up because of John McCain's equally bizarre seeming statement on Canada, NAFTA and Afghanistan back on Friday:

"One of our greatest assets we have in Afghanistan today, frankly, are our Canadian friends," he said. "It's very controversial in Canada, their commitment and the suffering and the losses they have faced. And we need, we need our Canadian friends and we need their continued support in Afghanistan.

"So what do we do? The two Democrat candidates for president say that they're going to unilaterally, they're going to unilaterally abrogate the North American Free Trade Agreement. Our biggest trading partner, they're going -- who we made a solemn agreement with -- they're gonna unilaterally abrogate that. Now, how do you think the Canadian people are going to react to that -- who we are having now their enormous and invaluable assistance in Afghanistan and we're going to abrogate a free trade agreement?"

I mocked McCain for making such a bizarre statement, but I am starting to think that, like with Bush's seemingly strange Dred Scott comment, there is a hidden meaning to it. Consider McCain's statement in the context of conservative Canadian Prime Minster Stephen Harper responding to allegations from New Democratic leader Jack Layton that Harper is interfering the Democratic primary against Barack Obama:


Here is Harper's response to the allegations (transcript mine):

The Canadian embassy in Washington has issued a statement indicating its regret at the fact that information has come out that would imply that Mr.--Senator Obama has been saying different things in public than in private.

So, the Canadian conservative prime minister is calling Barack Obama two-faced on NAFTA at the exact same moment that John McCain is indicating that Canada might pull out its troops on Afghanistan if we make too much a stink about NAFTA? That strikes me as more than a little suspicious. In fact, it strikes me as a directly coordinated attack by McCain and Harper to neutralize McCain on trade during the general election. It wouldn't be the first time Harper and Republican leaders have coordinated, given that Harper uses Republican pollsters and the conservative movements in both countries are deeply intertwined. Further, in addition to making Obama look like a two-face panderer who will anger key international allies, this attack serves a triple purpose of weakening Obama by extending the Democratic primary, which might (I emphasize might) further weaken Obama in the general election. Other conservatives, such as Rush Limbaugh, are already pushing supporters to vote for Clinton for exactly this same reason.

I generally agree with Josh Marshall on this one: the whole thing stinks of cross-border conservative coordination on the presidential campaign. The plus side is that not only is what Harper doing probably unpopular in Canada, but that in the general election Obama can probably appear with opposition leaders like Layton or Stephanie Dion to reinforce his position on the issue. That way, not only does Obama's position gain credibility, but his victory might even bring down the Canadian conservative government.  

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Chris Bowers was a full-time editor at MyDD from May 2004 until June 2007. Some of his projects have included the creation of the Liberal Blog Advertising Network, the first scientifically random poll of progressive netroots activists, the Use It Or Lose It campaign, the nation's most accurate forecast of Democratic house pickups in 2006, and the 2006 Googlebomb the Elections campaign.


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I doubt it . . .
Posted by: Scientz on Mar 4, 2008 9:16 AM   
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We here in Canada are too far to the left for that. Our Conservatives ARE your Democrats. We have no equivalent of your Republicans:

RIGHT
Republicans (US)

CENTER-RIGHT
Conservatives (Cdn)
Democrats (US)
Bloc Québécois (Cdn - Quebec separatist)

CENTER-LEFT
Liberals (Cdn)

LEFT
New Democratic Party (Cdn)
Action démocratique du Québec (Cdn - Quebec autonomist)

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» Otto . Posted by: otto
» Exactly Posted by: JMTulip
» BWAHAHAHAHAHA . . . Posted by: Scientz
» RE: BWAHAHAHAHAHA . . . Posted by: faustus
Also . . .
Posted by: Scientz on Mar 4, 2008 9:19 AM   
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Jack Layton is a joke and the NDP will never have national support. Stephane Dion is weak. The party leader's personality plays one of the most important roles in Canadian electability.

The Canadian government will not be brought down until the Liberal party elects a new leader.

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» Except for one thing... Posted by: JMTulip
Roe Vs Wade SHOULD be overturned.
Posted by: rickiey on Mar 4, 2008 9:48 AM   
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No, I'm not a pro-lifer, so don't start on me.

I'm very pro-choice, and I believe the legislature should write and put into place, a law that affirms a woman's right to choose.

I just think that Roe Vs. Wade was a judicial abuse of power, as the Judiciary doesn't have the constitutional authority to create law, which is exactly what they did in RVW.

It is the right result, but the wrong method. To me, methods matter.

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Someone give Harper
Posted by: hurricane hugo on Mar 4, 2008 10:22 AM   
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a BC hydro fatty. Now.

jdfu!

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Another Canadian View
Posted by: paddy_corbeil on Mar 4, 2008 10:34 AM   
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I think my fellow Canadian may have oversimplified on the Left/Right spectrum when they decided to comment on the center-right nature of the current Conservative party. Though in general I would agree that Canadian politics since the 1960's has played much more towards the center-left (thanks Trudeau, love ya) it would be an error to count on the Conservatives as being part of the norm. Harper's Conservatives, as my compatriot should be well aware, are an amalgam of the more center-right Progressive Conservatives and the frighteningly right, theocrat, redneck Alberta/BC Reform/Alliance party. Having seen the connections between Harper, Bush, Former Aussie PM Howard, Con writers like David Frum and papers like our National Post would love to see Canada on the whole shift further right. It must also be remembered that Harper's party's leanings are mitigated by his govt's minority status. This is the party that wants to begin encroaching on freedoms such as those of the woman and her body by enacting laws with stiffer penalties if a fetus is harmed/killed. If the fetus is a person when does the attack come on abortion rights? Do not dismiss Harper and his lot as being a center-right party, they are not and will show their stripes as soon as they obtain a majority. Unfortunately I have to agree with my fellow Canuck on the ineffectiveness of Leighton and Dion (as an NDP'er I wish we had a better leader) and can only hope either party sorts itself out in order to truly contest the Cons when they get the election their itching for.

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» Oversimplified? Posted by: Scientz
Canadian-American parties have long been co-conspirators ... in the very nicest sense of the word
Posted by: greatwhitenorth on Mar 4, 2008 11:00 AM   
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As an attentive (if not always astute) observer of both Canadian and American politics for half a century, I can say with assurance that Conservatives and Republicans normally make a nice fit, as do Liberals and Democrats. Unfortunately, the US has a rigid two-party system that yields no natural ally for Canada's mildly socialist "New Democratic Party" ... but symmetry is not always all that it is cracked up to be.

In 1963, John F. Kennedy pulled out all the stops to help defeat Conservative Prime Minister John Diefenbaker, who had been reluctant to place nuclear missiles on Canadian soil and to back JFK's various assaults on Cuba.

In the mid-1980s, Ronald Reagan could not have done more to support his Canadian counterpart Brian Mulroney, and Mr. Mulroney repaid the debt by reversing himself on "free trade" and selling out Canadian interests in the NAFTA.

Then, when Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien declined the American invitation to sally into Iraq, the Bush administration let Canadians know that somehow their government was "letting down the side" ... and hinted that Canadians would live to rue the day.

Whether the issues are foreign policy, border security, bi- or multi-lateral trade, cultural, social or environmental legislation, the major parties in both countries generally align themselves in a predictable way: Richard Nixon despised Pierre Trudeau and Canadian Liberals haven't all that fond of Mr. Bush (either one).

As a long-time (though always tentative) supporter of the New Democratic Party, my only hope is that, whatever emerges from the current kerfuffle, Mr. Harper and Mr. Bush will be equally embarrassed. The former is a good bet; the latter is less likely - first, someone would have to show Mr. Bush where to find Canada on a map.

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» Right, but . . . Posted by: Scientz
Don't Forget Mulroney and Reagan!
Posted by: felixcommi on Mar 4, 2008 11:10 AM   
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Canadian Conservatives and American Republicans are two peas in one sinister, pro-rich, anti-poor, anti-woman, anti-civil liberties, anti-labour pod.

Mulroney and Reagan were trying to harmonize their ideological fight entrenching neoliberalism further and further, eventually culminating in NAFTA.

Our present Prime Minister, Stepehen Harper, is an ardent defender of George Bush and outspoken critic of all progressive legislation and successes over the last fourty years in our country. He emulates the Repiglicans campaign tricks, the soundbyte rather substance craze, and even humoured giving a cabinet position to the American ambassador.

They are incestuous brothers in a holy war for big business, riding on the shoulders of religious fiends and very rich western oilmen and eastern millionaires. (i say brothers rather than sisters because their inherent enmity towards women has caused them to have anemic levels of female politicos in their midsts)

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Otto
Posted by: otto on Mar 4, 2008 2:05 PM   
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Here in Canada the people movement against NAFTA started years ago, with Maude Barlow and the Council of Canadians, and I see it as stronger in Canada than in the U.S. People in the States have been brainwashed by the Media more because NAFTA is controlled by the big corporations and most of them are in the U.S.
Canada has been screwed more by the WTO in decisions about Canadian lumber and Canadian beef.

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