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Nasty Clinton-Obama Fight Descends to Plagiarism Claims

Posted by Jeff Fecke, Shakesville at 2:10 PM on February 18, 2008.


Deval Patrick gave Barack Obama some lines to use in a speech, free of charge or requirement for attribution. Obama used them. That's not a scandal.
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The Clinton campaign has a new line of attack on Barack Obama: he's a plagiarist. And it's hard to argue with the video to your right.

Pretty damning, right? Clearly, the Clinton camp has an open-and-shut case.

Well, except for one thing.

The person being plagiarized here is Deval Patrick, now the Governor of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Patrick is a strong backer of Obama, and...well, I'm sure you can see where this is heading:

In a telephone interview on Sunday, Mr. Patrick said that he and Mr. Obama first talked about the attacks from their respective rivals last summer, when Mrs. Clinton was raising questions about Mr. Obama's experience, and that they discussed them again last week.
Both men had anticipated that Mr. Obama's rhetorical strength would provide a point of criticism. Mr. Patrick said he told Mr. Obama that he should respond to the criticism, and he shared language from his campaign with Mr. Obama's speechwriters.
Mr. Patrick said he did not believe Mr. Obama should give him credit.
"Who knows who I am? The point is more important than whose argument it is," said Mr. Patrick, who telephoned The New York Times at the request of the Obama campaign. "It's a transcendent argument."
Now, plagiarism is a serious charge, and it's based on failing to attribute words properly. Obama did not, in his speech, say "As Deval Patrick said...", but then again, Deval Patrick himself told Obama to use the line, and not to worry about the credit.

That's not plagiarism. That's speechwriting.

Howard Wolfson of the Clinton campaign, continuing that campaign's efforts to make everyone surrounding Hillary Clinton look like a complete buffoon, asserts the plagiarism charge still sticks:

Wolfson said the plagiarism charge still holds because listeners go in with the assumption that Obama's speeches are original, unless credit is given. "So I think it's fine that Deval Patrick said that," Wolfson said. "But what I'm concerned about is that the public has an expectation that Sen. Obama's words are his own."
To which I can only respond: has Hillary Clinton fired her speechwriters? I highly doubt it. Every day, Clinton, Obama, McCain, and Huckabee get out of bed, go somewhere, and give speeches written, at least in part, by someone who is not them. The words, in short, are "not their own." And yet nobody accuses Hillary Clinton of plagiarizing her speechwriters' words when speaking; indeed, it would be stupid to do so.

That's what happened here: Deval Patrick gave Barack Obama some lines to use in a speech, free of charge or requirement for attribution. Obama used them. That's not a scandal. That's the way things are supposed to work. Indeed, Obama should probably use other peoples' words more often, especially when referring to Hillary Clinton. It would make me happier, I can tell you that.

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Jeff Fecke is a regular blogger for Shakesville.


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Even more damning
Posted by: Fishbone Soldier on Feb 18, 2008 2:26 PM   
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NEITHER Patrick or Obama cited JFK, FDR, or Martin Luther King Jr. Also, back in 1992, Bill Clinton's campaign had signs declaring "This is Clinton Country" and I saw very similar signs at rallies for Hillary this year. More plagiarism. Too bad we can't vote for someone who's never read anything this time around.

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This story does bring one interesting fact to light about obama...
Posted by: mrmystery on Feb 18, 2008 8:41 PM   
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the man writes his own speeches!! How awesome is that? He has to deliver a speech almost every night and we find out that he actually sits down to write them! ...plus finds time to campaign so effectively. I really think that's just awesome. I mean, I'm sure Hillary doesn't write her own speeches. Most politicians don't. Am I right about that? Don't most politicians have speech writers do the work for them? I really think the most interesting revelation to this story is that Barack actually writes his own speeches, which basically means that he's being honest about the passion he delivers them with.

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PULEEZE!
Posted by: onevoter on Feb 18, 2008 9:11 PM   
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This is such a non-isssue! So Deval Patrick quoted MLK, the Preamble to the Declaration of Independence and FDR-adding the words "just words"?
So Obama says the same thing..."just words"?
BOTH were quoting famous American speakers/writers.
This is NOT plaigerism.
Next thing you know, they will dredge up someone who has used the word "Change" in a speech......

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» RE: PULEEZE! Posted by: Quannah
The Biggest Non-Issue in the campaign so far
Posted by: Quannah on Feb 18, 2008 9:49 PM   
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and what it shows me is how desperate the Clinton campaign really is. I hadn't really made up my mind about who I would vote for, but I've had enough of these Republican-like smear tactics by Hillary.

If the person he quoted said it isn't plagiarism, IT ISN'T PLAGIARISM!

She won't get my vote now.

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