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Hillary Shows Emotion and Unleashes a Torrent of Sexism

Posted by Amanda Marcotte, Pandagon at 5:50 AM on January 8, 2008.


It's bad enough that the media attacks Clinton if she shows any emotion, but to have her own party members play that cheap sexist card is too much.
Hillary Tears Up at Campaign Stop

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What the hell?

ABC News' David Muir, Raelyn Johnson and Sunlen Miller Report: Former Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C., on the tail end of his 36-hour campaigning marathon in New Hampshire on day before the primary vote, reacted to rival Sen. Hillary Clinton's emotional moment Monday.

Edwards offered little sympathy and pounced on the opportunity to question Clinton's ability to endure the stresses of the presidency.

"I think what we need in a commander-in-chief is strength and resolve, and presidential campaigns are tough business, but being president of the United States is also tough business," Edwards told reporters Laconia, New Hampshire.

Earlier in the day, Clinton became emotional when speaking to a group of voters in Portsmouth, New Hampshire.

Completely unacceptable amounts of sexism. It's bad enough that the media plays the game with Clinton where if she shows any emotion, she's too feminine or too scary, but if she's more stoic, she's a scary ballbuster, but to have her own party members (if political rivals) play that cheap sexist card is too much. I've been reconsidering moving my Edwards support to Obama, and unless someone can show me evidence that Obama is just as likely to take cheap, sexist shots like this, I think that's what I'll be doing in light of this. We need someone at the top of the ticket who can know when to hold 'em. And Obama does on this issue--when baited with the opportunity to be sexist to Clinton, he declined. Edwards appears to have taken it back, so it's hard to say that it wasn't just base opportunism on his part. Still, it should be immediately evident to any candidate that playing the "Hillarygirlieweak" game with the media is a bad idea.

On that note, here's another WTF blog post at ABC's blog.

It won't come across on the transcript, but Sen. Hillary Clinton got angry during the debate tonight.

She was bickering with Sen. Barack Obama about their differences on health insurance, and whether Obama's plan leaves millions of Americans uninsured.

And then she ... well ... she got angry.

Frankly, I don't even really understand what she was saying. What I was getting was how angry she is. Not about an issue, so much, as about the fact that Obama is beating her.

The clip, I predict, will be played again and again and again.

Pundits will say that her tone made male voters recoil. And led some female voters to sneer.

I can't bring myself to vote for the hawk in the campaign during the primaries, but dammit, this makes me sort of wish she'd win so that I can vote for her in the general election in good conscience. You don't get much closer to saying outright, "We simply will not allow a woman to win if we can help it," than that quote there. When male candidates show a modicum of controlled anger, they get credit for their passion and their big, brass balls. Hell, the former President Bush was coached to act angrier so that people didn't think he was a wimp. But no one will cut Clinton a break.

UPDATE via Jane Hamsher @ FireDogLake: Feel the Misogyny

Matt Stoller and Echidne are right. Male candidates can cry and it shows their humanity; Hillary Clinton cries and she's weak and hysterical. And why shouldn't she be emotional at this point? Her male fellow candidates don't have to put up with leering, chortling, oily creeps like Chris Matthews and Joe Scarborough laughing at them and disrespecting them when they're trying to run a fucking political campaign.

She is not your private bawdy joke, lads.

Oh and John Edwards? Please stop being a patronizing, sexist jerk.

And I'm sorry. Planned Parenthood and NARAL lost the right to put the "pro-choice stamp of approval" on anything when they sent out those mailers telling their members to thank Joe Lieberman for his vote to put Samuel Alito on the Supreme Court. To grant them that authority is positively ahistoric.

There is definitely a double standard going on here. If Hillary Clinton tried that old "the dog ate my Senate schedule" excuse for missing Kyl-Lieberman (when there was evidence to the contrary), there would be spew alerts everywhere.

You may disagree with her on substance. She may not be your candidate of choice. But for chrissakes, treat the woman with respect.

UPDATE II: Sen. Clinton has been harassed by sexists on the campaign trail who scream "iron my shirt" at her at various events and rallies.

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Tagged as: sexism, obama, hillary clinton, edwards, new hampshire, medi

Amanda Marcotte co-writes the popular blog Pandagon.


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Uh, excuse me...
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Jan 8, 2008 6:26 AM   
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Hillary only starts showing "emotion" after losing Iowa... as an obvious ploy... and it is sexist to call her on it? Excuse me, but if a man had done this there would be ZERO complaints about someone questioning his qualifications to lead.

Edwards answered Clinton's cheap political ploy with another political ploy. It wasn't sexist, because fake crying wouldn't be acceptable for a man either.. and wouldn't play for a man in the first place.

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sexist? c'mon....
Posted by: ProgressiveRedStateResident on Jan 8, 2008 6:53 AM   
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The only thing mentioned in this article that's actually sexist is the part about the "Iron my shirt!" meatheads. Calling Edwards' comments "sexist" is just ridiculous. He hit at Hillary for being WEAK, not for being a woman. If the author equates weakness with being a woman, then maybe it's the author who needs to more carefully consider her comments?

The author's claim that she'll "switch to Obama" over these comments is equally ridiculous. Good job living up to the fickle stereotype of progressives. Show some conviction and stop LOOKING FOR WAYS to discredit good candidates. Does this comment from Edwards REALLY make you think that he's a sexist jerk? REALLY?!?

Hillary will lose. But, it won't be because she's a woman in a world that's not ready to respect women. It will be because she's a pro-WAR, pro-CORPORATION sellout. Being a BAD female candidate is much worse for the women's movement than the seemingly harmless, unrelated-to-gender comments made by John Edwards.

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Posted by: sui_generis on Jan 8, 2008 7:22 AM   
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Yeah, I have to say, if Edwards got all tear-y after a big loss in the same circumstances, my reaction would be the same:

1) if it was real, s/he needs to toughen up, and

2) if it was staged to soften their image, that makes me like them even less.


Among liberals, this has less to do with sexism and more to do with recognizing that much of the rest of the country is sexist and if we want to win the general election, we can't run a candidate who gives them ammo. I want a woman President, but one whose views I agree with and one who knows better than to stage emotions OR lose control of them.

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» RE: . Posted by: anna132
» "loose control"? Posted by: Gaubladt
The Real "Sexist"
Posted by: Saitia on Jan 8, 2008 7:33 AM   
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Oh and John Edwards? Please stop being a patronizing, sexist jerk.

Oh, and Jane Hamsher? "Please stop being a patronizing, sexist jerk" yourself, by making baseless accusations against Edwards; you destroy your own credibility.

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Hillary shouldn't
Posted by: motamanx on Jan 8, 2008 7:50 AM   
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...have voted Bush's way on all those war (and other) items. Bush has been wrong about everything. She should have backed Kucinich's call to impeach Cheney. All the time she was angling for the best shot at being president, but in doing so she left reason and morality and DOING THE RIGHT THING out there in the wind.

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curtrock
Posted by: curtrock on Jan 8, 2008 7:52 AM   
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I fully agree with the latest comments here...exactly who is being sexist? Not John Edwards...he is simply being a politician attempting to win and pointing out the foibles of his opponents.
A crying politician will always be perceived as weak...
Let's get past the 'woman' thing and the 'color' thing...and focus on the 'best candidate' thing...
In my opinion, Hillary Clinton is NOT the best candidate...not because she's a woman; and I believe many voters are seeing beyond gender or race and really listening and thinking and trying to make a good decision; it certainly beats the 'apathetic voter' issues we've heard about for years.
So, label me what you will...a political candidate that cries will never get my vote...

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» RE: curtrock Posted by: carrie jean
I'll Give Her Something To Cry About
Posted by: QQOblivion on Jan 8, 2008 8:05 AM   
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I agree that sexism has no place in a presidential campaign. (This is the 21st Century, people.) But where are H Clinton's tears over the more than a million people who died in Iraq because of her vote to go to war? Yes, Edwards voted for the war too, but he has at least apologized. H Clinton is too busy trying to look tough to apologize. And when she does finally cry, it is over a personal loss. A million personal losses have occurred in Iraq because of her vote. ...Pass the tissues.

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Falling into Patterns
Posted by: k_pr on Jan 8, 2008 8:56 AM   
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Once the clip of Clinton was played on air, we could have predicted the reactions.

I agree with the author, it would have been a breath of fresh air for Edwards to show some sympathy on this issue.

To me the emotion or tears do not indicate weakness (unless they truely was staged). What shows weakness is when a candidate does not take a stand on an issue. So I am more frustrated with Clinton's vote to authorize military action in Iraq or in support of No Child Left Behind.

A little more humanity from all of the candidates would be better.

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She parrotted John Edward's "personal for me" speaking style during the last debate.
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Jan 8, 2008 8:57 AM   
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Edwards went at great length to draw highly personal references to create an emotional appeal as to why he wants to be a "president for the people" during the latest round of shmeebates. Clinton's handler's were apparently impressed enough to adopt this approach in an effort to peel off some of those swayed by Edwards style.

To me, both of these emotional appeals are much less relevant than the candidates' platforms, but I guess they must connect with some voters. Sigh, the whole substance versus theater devolution...

At any rate, it's disheartening to see that obvious is the new sexist.

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Hillay is the sexist
Posted by: zeitgeist1979 on Jan 8, 2008 9:42 AM   
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I'm sorry but I have to say that Hillary's so-called "crying" looks very much to me as just another example of how contrived and calculating she is. Her crying comes across as nothing more than an attempt to manipulate you. I have no problem with her crying but please does she have to attack Obama in the same breath as her so called "tears"? I am so sick and tired of her fear mongering. I hate it when she implies that a vote for Obama is a vote for us getting a terrorist attack again.

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» RE: Hillay is the sexist Posted by: anna132
men can't cry either
Posted by: Grandma Crabby on Jan 8, 2008 9:52 AM   
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this article assumes only Hillary is going to get lamblasted for crying.

Not true.

Over the years any time a man politician has cried he has been vilified for being weak. Male or female, no one wants a weeepy president cuz that shows weakness.

No doubt Hillary is exhausted and she sees her lifelong dream going down the toilet. Her tears are understandable but no one but a Hillary water carrier would write that her breakdown is irrelevant or that criticising her for it is sexist.

Men politicians are not allowed the luxury of crying either.

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» RE: men can't cry either Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: men can't cry either Posted by: gregii
» RE: men can't cry either Posted by: Lauren
» RE: men can't cry either Posted by: sui_generis
I'd cry too
Posted by: dangergirl on Jan 8, 2008 10:31 AM   
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From the video I couldn't tell that she was crying. If she did, so what if she teared up a little! Women are physiologically designed to do that when they feel strongly about something, it certainly isn't a sign of weakness. If anything it shows that she cares. Heck, when I think about the state of the nation; the loss in fiscal independence, the deplorable disregard and subsequent loss of women's and civil rights in this country, how much we've gone back words, it makes me want to cry too!

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» RE: I'd cry too Posted by: goeswithness
» RE: I'd cry too Posted by: Lauren
Clinton Was Playing to Her Audience
Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com on Jan 8, 2008 10:50 AM   
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Am I the only one who only saw women in the audience at that campaign rally?

I believe it was some kind of women's forum.

Her getting teary eyed there reminded me of her using a southern drawl when giving a speech at a Black American church in the south a couple months back.

I think she was playing to her audience which seems to fit her MO of being everything to everyone and standing for nothing.

I could be wrong though, call me cynical.

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» RE: All comes down to trust I guess Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com
HAHAHAHA!!!
Posted by: ProgressiveRedStateResident on Jan 8, 2008 12:08 PM   
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I'm still laughing about this "Torrent of Sexism"
?????where???????

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» RE: HAHAHAHA!!! Posted by: Lauren
Wetlands for sale
Posted by: jmooney on Jan 8, 2008 12:15 PM   
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If you believe that emotion wasn't planned and calibrated, I have some wetlands in Arizona for you to buy.

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One of the worst Alternet articles I've ever read
Posted by: mahabhusuku on Jan 8, 2008 12:17 PM   
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Seriously.

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Exactly! And later in the same coffee shop interview, she raises the Bin Laden Spectre
Posted by: rjgwood on Jan 8, 2008 12:48 PM   
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I have no pity for this women. Frankly she's crying because she really, really, really wants to rule, and we're not letting her, so she's upset.

Give me a break. She has been so unethical in how she goes after her fellow candidates. Did you see Kerrey (not Kerry) stumping for her and purposely saying falsehoods about Obama being raised in a Madrassas, and being a muslim...come on, an obvious calculated hit piece by Clinton. Further, she has planted "questions" and the list goes on and on of how she has conducted herself. For Edwards to pounce on this little cry-fest is totally justified.

Rhonda

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ishmael
Posted by: Ishmael on Jan 8, 2008 1:27 PM   
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Call me cynical, but when I first heard this on the radio a woman asked the question "How do you do it" (campaign 24/7) which is the question Hillary is responding to in the video, my first thought was that the questioner was a plant by Hillary's campaign.

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She Didn't Cry - What's The Big Deal?
Posted by: colleenwhalen on Jan 8, 2008 2:02 PM   
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It was about 2 months ago Hillary got slammed because she wore a modest, matronly looking blouse with a slight "V" neck design. She was criticized for "Being too sexy". Give me a break - she's 60 and not a hottie.

I think what bothers our culture is any woman who has a tinge of sexuality, feminitity, softness - yet we live in a culture which is sex obsessed. You can't win no matter what you do. Hillary has been criticized in the past for not being "Fashionable Enough" but when she spruced up her wardrobe - she got hammered.

Yesterday I read online that Hillary "broke down in tears" - I expected her to be bawling. Now watching the clip, what is the BIG DEAL? She didn't tear up, nor did she lose control. She sounded very passionate about her beliefs, now she is being hammered for being a hormone driven, emotional female who isn't "tough enough" to be President.

First, let me say I loathe Hillary, can't stand her and don't trust her at all. I can't stand Bill either.

That being said, I actually am peeved that this is even an issue about her being "too emotional". She has been strongly criticized for being to cold and not emotional enough. Now that she shows some emotion, she gets pilloried as a cry-baby.

Reminds me of tabloids who criticize actresses for either being too thin or too fat.

Either way, no matter what a woman does, she gets slammed. If a female celebrity is not married and doesn't have kids, then she gets pestered relentlessly to find a husband and have a baby. Women who stay home as housewives are treated like they don't have brains if they are on the "mommy track".

This is just another mysoginist attack on a strong woman. I am voting for Obama Baramack and would emigrate to Candada if Hillary is elected, I think she is a corporate democrat and a "Republicrat". Hillary is getting HUGE campaign donations from military defense contractors who know that a Republican is not going to get elected to the White House in 2008. Hillary also got more pharmaceutical PAC campaign money than any other Senator in the history of the nation.

OK I can't stand her guts, but enough already. She didn't cry - she showed some emotion - probably the first time she's done that in the last 10 years. I don't think it was "acting" it seemed real to me and in no way was she "too emotional" nor did she cry.

What do you want? The robot like lack of expression that Condi Rice has? Condi Rice reminds me of a zombie with zero emotion, nor any inflection in her voice. SHould a female politician be like a block of stone?

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Gee!
Posted by: goeswithness on Jan 8, 2008 2:08 PM   
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This might be the best moment I've seen from her. She let her human side be seen, and I find it charming. I kept expecting, from the descriptions, that she went into some crying fit.

You know, this is just the type of tears people always like when it comes from a man - the type that show you're human but that your brain is still working as well. I'm not sure how much of this is press making a story out of something silly, or how much is real "oh, she's an emotional woman who can't be trusted" sexism, but it is a very depressing thing that we still have to even have this discussion.

And shame on John Edwards, who I've liked, for such a cheap shot when he knows full well how damaging the stereotype is that he's exploiting.

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» RE: Gee! Posted by: Lauren
oh, how quickly we forget...
Posted by: sinfony78 on Jan 8, 2008 2:21 PM   
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so what have u to say about hillary playing the sex card, saying to the effect that her democratic rivals are ganging up on her cause she's a woman...please!!

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sexism lives
Posted by: Dianka on Jan 8, 2008 3:31 PM   
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Americans aren't culturally grown up, and when it comes to women, the most pervasive attitudes are as solidly (and irrationally) sexist today as they were 50 years ago. Quick example: A single father is heroic, a single mother is a lazy slut. Nuf said?

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» RE: sexism lives Posted by: ianfan
» RE: sexism lives Posted by: Lauren
So, a single comment...
Posted by: ianfan on Jan 8, 2008 3:32 PM   
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...given after a disclaimer saying he didn't actually see the Clinton episode, and therefore could not speak on the specifics, equates to a "torrent" of hate speach. I suppose when he later goes back and makes a comment conveying sympathy for the grinding process of the election, that's what makes it a "torrent".

And of course the writer here doesn't bother to make note of either Edwards initial disclaimer that he can't comment of the specifics or his later comment showing sympathy once he realizes what the specifics are. Nope, you have to go find the whole truth for yourself. Certainly not a bad lesson to learn about media, but really one I don't want to have to learn from anyone who wants me to consider them a credible source of information.

Ridiculous. I'm not even an Edwards supporter either.

He should be more criticized for the "resolute" leader comment. I don't want a strong resolute leader. F that noise. I want a smart, deliberative, savy leader who can distinguish between sublties and not just chart a steady path, but chart an effective one through later complicated waters. I want a leader who is smarter than me, not one who is more stuborn than me. That is where Edwards should be called out, not on his "torrent" (which now means you speak in complete sentences I have to geuss?) of sexism.

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» RE: So, a single comment... Posted by: Lauren
Response to QQOblivion's Excellent Comment
Posted by: blackie4aces on Jan 8, 2008 4:06 PM   
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Yo, QQOblivion, whoever you are. I couldn't have said it better myself. Evidently, Ms. Hamsher thinks there should be special rules for "special people." I doubt that Senator Clinton was shedding many tears for the abused female employees of Walmart when she was on their corporate board, or for the poor women of Arkansas who, in the immortal words of Joe Bageant, made their minimum wage living
"pulling the guts out of chickens through their assholes all day long," when Senator Clinton was a corporate lawyer for Tyson Foods as well as the two-for-one duo being the beneficiary of hefty campaign contributions from Tyson.

I have the utmost respect for liberated women, but, frankly, I don't personally know any "liberated" women that would have put up with their "equal" partners publicly cheating on them with only god-knows-how-many women. Does Ms. Hamsher really believe that Hillary Clinton could have ever been elected Senator in the state of New York if she hadn't been, or hadn't stayed, married to Bill Clinton?

Mom and Apple Pie Tears. Shit!

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Crocodile tears
Posted by: CharliePatton on Jan 8, 2008 4:29 PM   
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O devil, devil!
If that the earth could teem with woman's tears,
Each drop she falls would prove a crocodile.
Out of my sight!


Shakespeare's Othello, Act 4, Scene 1.

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A Democrat is a Democrat and That's Better than any Republican!
Posted by: tommy1957 on Jan 8, 2008 5:33 PM   
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People, I hope you will be smart and support who ever the nominee is in the end. These people are fighting for the job of president. I expect them to do everything and anything (short of breaking the law) to win the nomination. In the end we need to come together and support the nominee. Because anything is better than a stinking; low life; lying member of the "Party of the Wide Stance".

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Thank you
Posted by: janelynne on Jan 8, 2008 6:28 PM   
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I want to thank you, Amanda, for finally saying it. Hillary is getting smeared and has become the media's pinata, or virtual gang bang victim. It is sexist. If Hillary is outspoken, she is referrred to as shrill. If she cries, she is tempermentally unfit. If she wears pantsuits, she is funny. If she gets angry, she is a bitch.

When she was a pioneer for "change" in healthcare in the 80's, she "failed." Now she isn't allowed to be an agent of change, because maybe women ought to change diapers, and not policy? If she forgave her husband, she was a fool. If she criticizes her opponent's voting record, she is desperate or negative. If the men gang up on her, she is using the gender card. If her husband campaigns, she is riding his coat tails.

Why are Democrats allowing this obscenity to happen?

The Hillary bashing is sexist and offensive. Woman shouldn't put up with this shit anymore. I hope women get behind this candidate, because she is a wonderful human being, a patriotic American. She will make a great President. End of story.

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» RE: Thank you Posted by: Julian
» RE: Thank you Posted by: blackie4aces
» RE: Thank you Posted by: Julian
» RE: Not end of story. Posted by: Lauren
» RE: Thank you Posted by: ProgressiveRedStateResident
carrie jean
Posted by: carrie jean on Jan 8, 2008 9:01 PM   
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Hillary says, "You know, I have so many opportunities FROM this country, Ijust don't want to see us fall backwards" WHAT?? Did she think she was having a private conversation with Bill??? opportunities from this country, think about it. I think she slipped up, Freudian slip. Did she mean, I see so many opportunities FOR this country?
She is a desperate, lying, manipulative, war- mongering, tear-faking, dragon woman, and don't forget it. She can lie like a Bush. The question was planted, obviously, and then she stole John Edwards' theme about taking it personally and caring so deeply. She would not EVEN give Cindy Sheehan the time of day, don't forget that. I know that sounds simple-minded, but it speaks volumes in my opinion.

John Edwards was not being sexist. He was treating her EXACTLY how he would have treated a man. Imagine if Obama cries for the camera tomorrow. Not acceptable for him, not acceptable for her. And, by the way, if anyone has a right to cry it is John Edwards, son killed, wife with cancer. But he doesn't because he is STRONG human being, not because he is a man. Whoever wrote this article is sexist. I wonder how many times in the past it was said that a woman shouldn't be president because they are "too emotional" and couldn't handle it, imagine all those MC pigs snorting, "I told you so!" Also, she went right from crying to attacking Obama. She is not a very good actor, either. GEEZ, I can't believe anyone would fall for her charade.

And Obama scares me how he wants the "insurance companies to sit at the table" and he wants democrats and repugs to unite. NEVER. Kucinich is the only man worthy of a vote. But John Edwards is the next best thing. I think I get more upset with the dumb people of this country than with the politicians.

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Posted by: carrie jean on Jan 8, 2008 10:17 PM   
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If anyone has a reason to cry during this campaign, how about Kucinich, the only true, good candidate. His brother died, and he can't get any media attention cuz he would shut down the insurance industry if elected, which needs to be shut down, and wants impeachment, etc., etc., etc.
and has anyone heard how his brother died? Heard anything else about the fire in Cheney's office that same day? im just sayin...weird.
How did his brother die?? anyone?? what was the full coroners report. I never heard on TV, but maybe I missed it.

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