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Keith Olbermann's Special Comment on Waterboarding and Torture [VIDEO]

Posted by Adam Howard, AlterNet at 8:26 PM on November 5, 2007.


Daviel Levin, the former U.S. Acting Assistant Attorney General, who was himself waterboarded to determine whether or not the act constituted torture made you into a liar Mr. Bush."
Keith Olbermann Special Comment on Torture/Waterboarding

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This transcript comes from MSNBC.com:

It is a fact startling in its cynical simplicity and it requires cynical and simple words to be properly expressed: The presidency of George W. Bush has now devolved into a criminal conspiracy to cover the ass of George W. Bush.

All the petulancy, all the childish threats, all the blank-stare stupidity; all the invocations of World War III, all the sophistic questions about which terrorist attacks we wanted him not to stop, all the phony secrets; all the claims of executive privilege, all the stumbling tap-dancing of his nominees, all the verbal flatulence of his apologists...

All of it is now, after one revelation last week, transparently clear for what it is: the pathetic and desperate manipulation of the government, the refocusing of our entire nation, toward keeping this mock president and this unstable vice president and this departed wildly self-overrating attorney general, and the others, from potential prosecution for having approved or ordered the illegal torture of prisoners being held in the name of this country.

"Waterboarding is torture," Daniel Levin was to write. Daniel Levin was no theorist and no protester. He was no troublemaking politician. He was no table-pounding commentator. Daniel Levin was an astonishingly patriotic American and a brave man.

Brave not just with words or with stances, even in a dark time when that kind of bravery can usually be scared or bought off.

Charged, as you heard in the story from ABC News last Friday, with assessing the relative legality of the various nightmares in the Pandora's box that is the Orwell-worthy euphemism "Enhanced Interrogation," Mr. Levin decided that the simplest, and the most honest, way to evaluate them ... was to have them enacted upon himself.

Daniel Levin took himself to a military base and let himself be waterboarded.

Mr. Bush, ever done anything that personally courageous?

Perhaps when you've gone to Walter Reed and teared up over the maimed servicemen? And then gone back to the White House and determined that there would be more maimed servicemen?

Has it been that kind of personal courage, Mr. Bush, when you've spoken of American victims and the triumph of freedom and the sacrifice of your own popularity for the sake of our safety? And then permitted others to fire or discredit or destroy anybody who disagreed with you, whether they were your own generals, or Max Cleland, or Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame, or Daniel Levin?

Daniel Levin should have a statue in his honor in Washington right now.

Instead, he was forced out as acting assistant attorney general nearly three years ago because he had the guts to do what George Bush couldn't do in a million years: actually put himself at risk for the sake of his country, for the sake of what is right.

And they waterboarded him. And he wrote that even though he knew those doing it meant him no harm, and he knew they would rescue him at the instant of the slightest distress, and he knew he would not die — still, with all that reassurance, he could not stop the terror screaming from inside of him, could not quell the horror, could not convince that which is at the core of each of us, the entity who exists behind all the embellishments we strap to ourselves, like purpose and name and family and love, he could not convince his being that he wasn't drowning.

Waterboarding, he said, is torture. Legally, it is torture! Practically, it is torture! Ethically, it is torture! And he wrote it down.

Wrote it down somewhere, where it could be contrasted with the words of this country's 43rd president: "The United States of America ... does not torture."

Made you into a liar, Mr. Bush.

Made you into, if anybody had the guts to pursue it, a criminal, Mr. Bush.

Waterboarding had already been used on Khalid Sheik Mohammed and a couple of other men none of us really care about except for the one detail you'd forgotten — that there are rules. And even if we just make up these rules, this country observes them anyway, because we're Americans and we're better than that.

We're better than you.

And the man your Justice Department selected to decide whether or not waterboarding was torture had decided, and not in some phony academic fashion, nor while wearing the Walter Mitty poseur attire of flight suit and helmet.

He had put his money, Mr. Bush, where your mouth was.

So, your sleazy sycophantic henchman Mr. Gonzales had him append an asterisk suggesting his black-and-white answer wasn't black-and-white, that there might have been a quasi-legal way of torturing people, maybe with an absolute time limit and a physician entitled to stop it, maybe, if your administration had ever bothered to set any rules or any guidelines.

And then when your people realized that even that was too dangerous, Daniel Levin was branded "too independent" and "someone who could (not) be counted on."

In other words, Mr. Bush, somebody you couldn't count on to lie for you.

So, Levin was fired.

Because if it ever got out what he'd concluded, and the lengths to which he went to validate that conclusion, anybody who had sanctioned waterboarding and who-knows-what-else on anybody, you yourself, you would have been screwed.

And screwed you are.

It can't be coincidence that the story of Daniel Levin should emerge from the black hole of this secret society of a presidency just at the conclusion of the unhappy saga of the newest attorney general nominee.

Another patriot somewhere listened as Judge Mukasey mumbled like he'd never heard of waterboarding and refused to answer in words … that which Daniel Levin answered on a waterboard somewhere in Maryland or Virginia three years ago.

And this someone also heard George Bush say, "The United States of America does not torture," and realized either he was lying or this wasn't the United States of America anymore, and either way, he needed to do something about it.

Not in the way Levin needed to do something about it, but in a brave way nonetheless.

We have U.S. senators who need to do something about it, too.

Chairman Leahy of the Judiciary Committee has seen this for what it is and said "enough."

Sen. Schumer has seen it, reportedly, as some kind of puzzle piece in the New York political patronage system, and he has failed.

What Sen. Feinstein has seen, to justify joining Schumer in rubber-stamping Mukasey, I cannot guess.

It is obvious that both those senators should look to the meaning of the story of Daniel Levin and recant their support for Mukasey's confirmation.

And they should look into their own committee's history and recall that in 1973, their predecessors were able to wring even from Richard Nixon a guarantee of a special prosecutor (ultimately a special prosecutor of Richard Nixon!), in exchange for their approval of his new attorney general, Elliott Richardson.

If they could get that out of Nixon, before you confirm the president's latest human echo on Tuesday, you had better be able to get a "yes" or a "no" out of Michael Mukasey.

Ideally you should lock this government down financially until a special prosecutor is appointed, or 50 of them, but I'm not holding my breath. The "yes" or the "no" on waterboarding will have to suffice.

Because, remember, if you can't get it, or you won't with the time between tonight and the next presidential election likely to be the longest year of our lives, you are leaving this country, and all of us, to the waterboards, symbolic and otherwise, of George W. Bush.

Ultimately, Mr. Bush, the real question isn't who approved the waterboarding of this fiend Khalid Sheik Mohammed and two others.

It is: Why were they waterboarded?

Study after study for generation after generation has confirmed that torture gets people to talk, torture gets people to plead, torture gets people to break, but torture does not get them to tell the truth.

Of course, Mr. Bush, this isn't a problem if you don't care if the terrorist plots they tell you about are the truth or just something to stop the tormentors from drowning them.

If, say, a president simply needed a constant supply of terrorist threats to keep a country scared.

If, say, he needed phony plots to play hero during, and to boast about interrupting, and to use to distract people from the threat he didn't interrupt.

If, say, he realized that even terrorized people still need good ghost stories before they will let a president pillage the Constitution,

Well, Mr. Bush, who better to dream them up for you than an actual terrorist?

He'll tell you everything he ever fantasized doing in his most horrific of daydreams, his equivalent of the day you "flew" onto the deck of the Lincoln to explain you'd won in Iraq.

Now if that's what this is all about, you tortured not because you're so stupid you think torture produces confession but you tortured because you're smart enough to know it produces really authentic-sounding fiction — well, then, you're going to need all the lawyers you can find … because that crime wouldn't just mean impeachment, would it?

That crime would mean George W. Bush is going to prison.

Thus the master tumblers turn, and the lock yields, and the hidden explanations can all be perceived, in their exact proportions, in their exact progressions.

Daniel Levin's eminently practical, eminently logical, eminently patriotic way of testing the legality of waterboarding has to vanish, and him with it.

Thus Alberto Gonzales has to use that brain that sounds like an old car trying to start on a freezing morning to undo eight centuries of the forward march of law and government.

Thus Dick Cheney has to ridiculously assert that confirming we do or do not use any particular interrogation technique would somehow help the terrorists.

Thus Michael Mukasey, on the eve of the vote that will make him the high priest of the law of this land, cannot and must not answer a question, nor even hint that he has thought about a question, which merely concerns the theoretical definition of waterboarding as torture.

Because, Mr. Bush, in the seven years of your nightmare presidency, this whole string of events has been transformed.

From its beginning as the most neglectful protection ever of the lives and safety of the American people ... into the most efficient and cynical exploitation of tragedy for political gain in this country's history ... and, then, to the giddying prospect that you could do what the military fanatics did in Japan in the 1930s and remake a nation into a fascist state so efficient and so self-sustaining that the fascism would be nearly invisible.

But at last this frightful plan is ending with an unexpected crash, the shocking reality that no matter how thoroughly you might try to extinguish them, Mr. Bush, how thoroughly you tried to brand disagreement as disloyalty, Mr. Bush, there are still people like Daniel Levin who believe in the United States of America as true freedom, where we are better, not because of schemes and wars, but because of dreams and morals.

And ultimately these men, these patriots, will defeat you and they will return this country to its righteous standards, and to its rightful owners, the people.

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Tagged as: olbermann, torture, bush administration, leahy, schumer, mukasey, waterboarding

Adam Howard is the editor of PEEK.


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Olbermann hits it out of the park..!
Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on Nov 5, 2007 10:32 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Bush and his cronies have disgraced this nation and those of the Federalist Society are behind all of this evisceration of our Constitution and nations great traditions..!

Where ever to smell the putrid stench of death and disgrace the federalist Society and it's members are nearby or behind any of this evil and growing fascism and defecation upon our Constitution...

Since Bush 43 knows he has these Federalist Society usurpers in the wings and that they have infested the Justice dept. and now infecting and perverting our Supreme Court Bush has little to fear in pushing his fascist family agenda upon America as he and his corporate fascist buddies plunder the Treasury and drag America down...

For me this issue goes way behind just Waterboarding as bad as it is you must think in a linear fashion see how all the pieces fit as I watched Valerie Plame Wilson tonight and how Bush and his cronies and sycophants have broken law after law the FISA Law, the NSA, the FBI and all those NSL letters NSPD-51 HSPD-20 Bush Executive order 14348 all of which turn America into a Dictatorship just as Bush' buddy Musharraf did this week ..

Keith really did a great job this time and we can see how his rhetoric is growing in anger as mine has been for some years now...

Fascism can be a slow insidious process it is incremental in many cases and we loose Our freedom and our soul as American not all in one huge action but by increment...

Now we see the Charles Schumer and Diane Feinstein have joined the fascists willingly and will lend their votes to America's ruination and further disgrace..As Schumer is a disgrace he being a Senator of my state..and no better than a sled dog and far from the front of the pack with his snout deeply embedded in Bush's intrigues...

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» RE: Olbermann should stick to sports Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN
» explain yourself plebe Posted by: KaptainSpiffy
» RE: YOU should stick to sports Posted by: blitzmesser
Pfft! i could see being his kid and coming home just a few minutes late of curfew
Posted by: KaptainSpiffy on Nov 6, 2007 3:07 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
that's how you tear a new assh*le.

if words meant anything anymore in this country, that may soon be one of the last brave speeches of our time

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My bizarre call to Schumer's office
Posted by: Kafwood on Nov 6, 2007 3:18 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I called Schumer's office late yesterday afternoon to verify that he was indeed supporting Mukasey's nomination. This is the conversation that ensued:

Me: "I am one of Senator Schumer's constituents, is he really going to support Mukasey's nomination?"

Schumer's Aide: "Yes, the Senator is."

Me: "I can't be believe he'd do something like that. I feel like I'm living in 1930"s Germany."

Schumer's Aide: "You're not alone. Many of us here feel that way."

Me (now stunned by this unexpected candor): "Uh, yeah? Well, if we don't stop the Bush administration now, when will we stop the neo-cons?"

Schumer's Aide: "We won't."

(Long pause.)

Me: "Oh."

Schumer's Aide: "I'd be happy to pass on your thoughts to the Senator. We've rec'd many calls like this."

Me: "Yes, please do. Bye."

How are we going to end this folks? How?

Everyone's who's spent even a modicum of their time looking at what's going down here now understands that the neo-conservative agenda is to dismantle the Constitution. Even the aides in the Senate (apparently) are despairing about it.

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» RE: My bizarre call to Schumer's office Posted by: Jefferson's Guardian
» RE: My bizarre call to Schumer's office Posted by: Jefferson's Guardian
I've grown a little weary of Keith's obvious bias toward Hillary
Posted by: Evora on Nov 6, 2007 3:53 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
in this campaign, but no one can argue that he is not the absolute BEST at pointing out the despicable machinations of this administration. Just once... just ONCE... I'd like to hear one tenth of this passion and outrage from our politicians.

Keith continuously outdoes himself with his 'special comments'. It's a shame he too often preaches to the choir. This should have been read into the official record at Mukasey's hearings, or at the very least, sent to every member of Congress, with emphasis on Feinstein and Schumer. This... ladies and gentlemen... is what a spine looks like.

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KO...
Posted by: bobtr900 on Nov 6, 2007 4:12 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
...really nailed Bush. It was beautiful to behold.Thanks KO for giving voice to the now totally impotent "We the people".

Maybe there is some hope for NBC/MSNBC after all. Now if they would just get rid of Russert, Man meat Matthews and Scarborough that might be the network of the future, should a future still be available after the Bushie Armageddonist evangelical fundies do their best to end the world.

The screaming from O'Reilly, O'Hannity, O'Russert, O'Matthews, O'Scarborough and all the other O's of death will show up on the Richter Scale and on the computers at the Global Consciousness Project.

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» RE: KO... Posted by: truthagainst
Musing...
Posted by: talkville on Nov 6, 2007 4:45 AM   
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I often have wondered, since the days of Abu Ghraib and such, how 'ordinary', 'regular', 'good' Americans would have responded to a news story about a little Company, barely heard of, in an isolated and very rural area of the country, was conducting 'studies' to 'gain information' about the viciousness of Pit Bulls, given the occasional stories of mawlings, and maimings of individuals over the years (rare, but reported and not related only to Pit Bulls). At this place, this Company had personnel in Veterinary Medicine, Physiologists, etc etc as well as representatives of the Company present. Among 'techniques' such as keeping the dogs in 'stress-ful conditions' for long periods of time, taunting and prodding them in various and differing ways, they also tried immersing these dogs in tanks of water for various periods of time. All the while they gathered 'data', trying to figure out if they could 'gain information' on 'usable material' that would help figure out just WHY these dogs were so 'un-predictably' vicious. They just wanted these dogs to " 'fess up some usable and predictable information' so they could get to work on getting that viciousness out of them!!

I don't know, but I think 'the Public', on learning of such of project would have raised an uproar! Especially on learning that one Pit Bull, lovingly named 'Jose" and another one, lovingly named "Padilla" now led useless and degraded lives in the Company's kennels.

Yet at the highest levels, the niceties and refinements in the possible definition of the WORD "Torture" go on, too sophisticated for us lowly mortals.

"If dogs run free, why can't we?" -Bob Dylan.

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» RE: Musing... Posted by: alternetrose
» RE: Musing... Posted by: Lauren
New terminology
Posted by: mr.ed on Nov 6, 2007 4:55 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Please notice that Olbermann no longer refers to W as "Mr. President," now calling him "Mr. Bush," taking away respect for him as an office holder. Almost as extreme as the R's calling his predecessor "Clinton" without even the respect of adding "Mr."

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» RE: New terminology Posted by: genefire
» RE: New terminology Posted by: JSquercia
» RE: New terminology Posted by: aonghus36
» RE: New terminology Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN
The Exquisite Mr. O-BE-One
Posted by: blondesprite on Nov 6, 2007 5:54 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The Exquisite Mr. Olbermann's analysis is, has been and will go down in history as the definitive distillation of our national disgrace.
He is, withoout a doubt, the bravest man on the planet!

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» RE: The Exquisite Mr. O-BE-One Posted by: Jefferson's Guardian
» RE: The Exquisite Mr. O-BE-One Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN
the torture dems
Posted by: mike1997 on Nov 6, 2007 5:56 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
From this day forward Chuck Shumer and Diane Feinstein and any dem senator who votes for this scum in the full senate should be known as the torture dems.

I wish this country had an opposition party to back.

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do something!
Posted by: DrXyzzy on Nov 6, 2007 6:06 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
See Who Will Filibuster Mukasey? here for info on two things we can do:

1. Call your senator (and other senators) to support a filibuster.

2. Sign the petition.

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ok
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Nov 6, 2007 6:53 AM   
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Its about damned time that the passion and disdain shown by Olbermann and others be turned onto the Democrats who are time and again simply giving Bush whatever he wants. They won't stop him. As far as I am concerned, that makes them accessories to his crimes and makes them as monstrous as him.

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» RE: ok Posted by: alternetrose
» RE: ok Posted by: Lauren
So what now?
Posted by: waynezel on Nov 6, 2007 6:59 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Olbermann is obsolutely correct in his outrage. And Levin should be cannonized a hero. But while Olbermann's words and passion remind me why I voted against Bush Inc. four times (Elder and Junior) I am also reminded that nearly half of Americans consistently voted FOR those obvious (to me) demagogues. Faced with Olbermann's painful truth, those same Bush voters will close their eyes, cover their ears and say nothing like good little monkies. The Bushies were campaigning on the politics of fear and smear long before 9-11. Any thinking individual could have seen them for what they were and still are. But we must face the fact that at least half of the US voting population does NOT think. Such people act on basic primate emotions only, and they will follow their smirking monkey king to the end of the world. If the Democrats cannot see this need to connect with the common people--to appeal to the basic primate nature of the voting populace, they will lose as surely and arroganly as the intellectually smug John Kerry and Al Gore lost. Olbermann comes the closest to appealing the right way to emotions of the people. Anger and outrage are a start. But what about courage? Who besides Olbermann will have the courage and personal ability to speak the truth? Who besides Levin will risk their careers, their social networks and their lives to speak out for what is right? Maybe half of Americans? Dream on. As we've tragically seen, even half is not enough. Finally, what democratic or independent candidate will have the courage to speak to the level of Olbermann's passion? Who will have the courage to pull Mr. Levin up on stage with them on national television to expose to the American people what the neocons have done and will continue to do if we do not stop them? With enough reach and frequency, this waterboarding issue could be the one thing that finally wakes people up to the horror they have been complicit in through their votes.

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» RE: So what now? Posted by: Lauren
» RE: Half the Americans Bush voters Posted by: Suzanna17@msn.com
Beware H.R. 1955 recently passed by the traitorous House...
Posted by: Angel1961 on Nov 6, 2007 7:10 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
H.R. 1955 was passed by the House. It is now in the Senate Intelligence Committee and will be referred to the floor for full passage if we don't stop them.

This bill is frightening. It is known as the "Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007". It seeks to codify the thoughts, words and actions of citizens who speak out against the status quo.

We don't need this law. We have the First Amendment and Supreme Court precedent that flowed from it. In existence for decades, these laws make certain forms of speech unprotected, i.e. unconstitutional. Besides yelling "fire" in a theater, these laws also ban "fighting words" (incitement to imminent violence) and words calling for the overthrow of the government. This has worked just fine for the American people for decades.

This bill is meant to make illegal the lively, vigorous discourse we have today. Discourse already within the bounds of 30+ years of established Supreme Court case law. It specifically mentions the Internet as a problem.

Here's the link to the law:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c110:4:./
temp/~c110uKkz5X::
(I had trouble inserting the link. So cut and paste but remember to close the space in the URL)

What these weasels want to do is to erect a fence: a fence to keep away the mob at the gates so that now, they will have grounds to arrest us the minute we criticize them.

Think about it: they have a 23% approval rating. Dems have arrogantly let us down for a year now starting with "Impeachment is off the table". With this law, they can have a 5% approval rating and no one will be able to make a peep.

Why does the House fear a mob at the gates?

1. We are sick of the ever-increasing wealth disparity (the worst since the Gilded Age). We are sick of having our jobs outsourced with no federal or state retraining programs to offset the financial damage we suffer. We are sick of the atrocious lack of affordable health care. We are sick of the astonishing rising cost of college tuition, living expenses etc., etc.

2. We have lots of brave young men and women returning from battle who are being abandoned by the VA. They have legitimate anger. Not to mention those returning vets who see how exploited they were. Ever see the movie "Iraq for Sale" by Robert Greenwald? It's a testimony to the professionalism of the American soldier that he does not shoot the private contractor. I had no idea how much our military was beholden to the war profiteers. Those criminals put the lives of our soldiers at risk every day.

3. At the risk of taking flak, I will also mention the 9/11 Truth movement and how these energetic people have recently disrupted events including one with Bill Clinton.

Congress consists of whores for special interests. Their bad behavior has caught up with them and they know exactly how angry people are. Instead of confronting the issues honestly and rectifying them, they pass thunderously and with a whisper H.R. 1955.
This is solely to protect themselves from being confronted on their treasonous behavior. They can continue with business as usual while citizens with legitimate dissent are rounded up and corralled under the rubric of this terrible law. And America slides ever more into a fascist police state.

If you go to The Senate and click "Committees" and then Intelligence and Government Affairs, you will see who has the power to kill this bill.

I checked to see who is on the Senate Intelligence Committee. Barak Obama is. I have already made the call.

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And Part II
Posted by: Angel1961 on Nov 6, 2007 7:15 AM   
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H.R 1955 passed 404 yes, 6 no, 22 not voting.

Jane Harman of California sponsored it. I would really like to know what the hell is going on with these California Dems- Pelosi, Feinstein, Harman??? Can someone from California please help me here? They are entirely undemocratic and I cannot see the difference between them and the Republicans.

I was dismayed to see that a co-sponsor was from my very blue state (RI). His name is Rep. Langevin (Dem) and he represents the district where sits Raytheon, war profiteer. Believe me he does not speak for the majority of people in RI.

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» RE: And Part II Posted by: Lauren
Revolution
Posted by: hbrobin on Nov 6, 2007 9:04 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I think its about time for a new american revolution...

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» Here is How We Start Posted by: djnoll
KO is the perfect nickname for this courageous voice,
Posted by: Doubtom on Nov 6, 2007 9:16 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Olbermann has always "said it like it is" and this time was no different with one exception--instead of vague allusions to IdiotBush's dishonesty, Keith finally came right out and called him a liar. Things can only get better from here! I hope his fury pushes him to raise the accusation to 'damn liar' and maybe we can look forward to 'goddam liar' in the near future.
It's about time someone in the media spoke the truth instead of dancing all around it!
Bravo Keith, keep it up, the nation sorely needs a voice to counter these inbred criminals.

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With the passage of 1955
Posted by: Chloe2005 on Nov 6, 2007 9:16 AM   
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Will Keith have to stop talking? It would seem like it. Thank you Keith. BE SAFE! This is getting so very scarry.

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» RE: With the passage of 1955 Posted by: Chloe2005
Homeland Security Advisory System
Posted by: Moe Snodgrass on Nov 6, 2007 9:22 AM   
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Remember, leading up to the 2004 presidential elections, the administration would invoke yellow ,orange and red terrorism advisories every few weeks? Not a single one (or few) since the 2004 stolen election! Watch and see if these warnings are reinvoked as the elections get closer in order to advantage Guliani or Romeny (or even Hillary). Are we smarter now, as a nation, to see this B.S. for what it was/is?

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the future
Posted by: robmikejas on Nov 6, 2007 9:31 AM   
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I have heard enough. The republican agenda is unfolding just as I HAVE FEARED IT WOULD. Giuliani will ascend the throne and carry out the Bush criminal plan, with even more repression of our rights and greater police control of our society. We are witness to the death of the American dream
and only the next vote can possibly stop this juggernaut.
The dream of restoring the constitution, re-establishing true justice, and growing new respect for America on the world stage, is slipping down the drain, right before our very eyes.
The evidence has been accumulating and has been ignored and buried under a pile of lies for a little too long. I think sincerely that it is too late now. What a crime against humanity!!

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This is absolutely pertinent to the USA today
Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN on Nov 6, 2007 9:46 AM   
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http://www.thirdreich.net/Thought_They_Were_Free.html

We MUST STOP bastard and his henchmen!!

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What scares me
Posted by: 2821ajk on Nov 6, 2007 9:52 AM   
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I am no longer expecting there to be elections in America. George Bush will just outlaw them like his good buddy Musharraf did in Pakistan.

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» Unfortunately,... Posted by: djnoll
Torture and Blackwater
Posted by: bettyn on Nov 6, 2007 9:56 AM   
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When do they turn them on US?!

Rock on, Keith!

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Thank you so much dear Mr. Keith Olbermann!
Posted by: fritson on Nov 6, 2007 11:23 AM   
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To Keith Olbermann and MSNBC CEO:

Thank you so much dear Mr. Keith Olbermann , you are a real and genuine American hero!

This one was possibly the best Special Comment you have ever made.

You are getting better and better, BRAVO!

Thank you also to MSNBC, you are helping a nation which is on it's death bed.

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Thank you Mr. Olbermann
Posted by: blitzmesser on Nov 6, 2007 11:56 AM   
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You have the courage to stick your neck out to tell people what they know already, but have not the courage to admit.
Your comments should be said out loud by every single person in this country. I am repeating them everywhere I go.
All people are better than Bush and his cronies, who are the scum of the earth.

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CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVE NOW!
Posted by: higginslads on Nov 6, 2007 12:24 PM   
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A sitting member of Congress is introducing a measure to impeach the vice president of the United States and the story isn't visible on Alternet. This should be the leading story on a website that bills itself as an "alternative" to the mainstream. Some alternative! More like left gatekeeper.

For those who are interested in doing something constructive about our current state of affairs, please call your representative and urge them to support Mr. Kucinich's bill. The Capitol switchboard is:

1-800-828-0498
1-800-862-5530
1-800-833-6354

Just ask the operator for your representative's office. If you don't know it, tell her/him where you live and she/he will look it up. Once transferred to your representative's office, politely tell the person who answers the phone that you urge your representative to support Kucinich's articles of impeachment against the vice president. You will probably be asked for your name and address.

I just did this. It's the first time I had ever called my representative (Rodney Frelinghuysen in NJ). It was easy and I felt better after doing it.

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Sorry but Olbermann was totally off the mark
Posted by: johnrohan on Nov 6, 2007 12:31 PM   
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Sorry folks, but how many of you actually tried to check on what Daniel Levin really said?

It's too bad that before Olbermann made total fool of himself, none of his writers bothered to fact check that statement. If they had, they might find out that Mr. Levin did not conclude that waterboarding was necessarily torture, or that the Bush administration did anything illegal. What he actually said was: "waterboarding could be illegal torture unless performed in a highly limited way and with close supervision".

Ouch.

Now it's true that Daniel Levin left the DOJ after Alberto Gonzales took over as attorney general. I don't know whether Mr. Levin's firing/resignation was justified or just political. But it's wrong for Mr. Olbermann to conclude this without evidence, and it's wrong for him to put words in Mr. Levin's mouth. Even now, Daniel Levin refuses to bad mouth the administration or call waterboarding "torture". If he was just holding out for a book deal, I think he would have announced it by now. He's had three years after all.

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» RE: Sorry but Olbermann was totally off the mark Posted by: Jefferson's Guardian
soaring_eagle
Posted by: Soaring on Nov 6, 2007 12:49 PM   
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Wish more americans like yourself would watch Olbermann, so they would awaken to the situation your country is racing to. Your whole future in your country is going down unless they take action soon, very soon, before it is to late.
Gerard fromSpain

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Soaring_Eagle
Posted by: Soaring on Nov 6, 2007 12:56 PM   
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What a pity there is only one K.Olbermann, america need many like him, honest, not afraid to say things as they are, a man with a large pair of "cojones"....Where are those politicians not afraid to say, what almost all the americans are saying and thinking...THE TRUTH, to work for the COUNTRY not to fill their pockets as the Bushies

Gerard from Spain

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False argument always put forth by democratic defenders
Posted by: loyaloposition on Nov 6, 2007 1:06 PM   
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The usual tactic attributed to the Bush Whitehouse is that if you repeat something long enough, it comes to be seen as the truth. I feel the same thing is being done with the defense of Mukasey and the Democrats that are willing to confirm him. "Mukasey is the best Bush is going to put forward, the next will be worse."

This is just not true. If Mukasey is not confirmed, why does it follow the next candidate must be confirmed? If Bush sends up a worse candidate, congress can vote to not confirm that individual as well. The process can continue for the next year if need be until Bush succumbs to the same tactics he has used on congress for the last seven years. If Mukasey is not confirmed it is just as likely if not more likely that if Bush wants anyone in that role, he will provide someone even better than Mukasey. The threat of someone less appealing or qualified is another instance of the administration using the press to pull the puppet strings.

Having no new Attorney General is not worse than having Gonzales in there, especially if the next Attorney General is going to ignore the constitution, and continue with the same lawless practices and policies.

Over 70% of the populace finally seems to understand what is at stake here and they are demanding congress do their bidding, not the President's.

Frankly I can not wait for the 2008 election, because I know the nation has a message for all of those incumbent democrats, blue dog democrats and republicans that have ignored the will of their constituents that did not happen to have an inc. at the end of their name. "Welcome to unemployment, uncertainty and fear lets see how you like it."

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It's one minute to midnight for America.
Posted by: monkeywrench on Nov 6, 2007 1:13 PM   
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Olbermann may have overstated Daniel Levin's utterances on waterboarding as torture, as far as we know; but it is possible that Mr. Levin has made statements off the record as to waterboarding and his reason for leaving Justice that Keith Olbermann is privy to. Who knows?

What we DO know, however, with mountains of other evidence, is that the Bush administration is a criminal enterprise well on its way to producing a fascist state out of America, and that, for the most part, Keith Olbermann's "special comments" have been the strongest resistance on the public airwaves. Cudos to him for having the courage to express in public what so, so, many of us feel.

BUT – here's the problem: Nothing will come of it. It seems that there is no one, no group, no body of lawmakers or enforcers, who are willing to put the security of America and its people above their own greed or their own fear. We lack even the level of selfless leadership that existed during the Nixon administration – and that fact is truly frightening.

And what is even more frightening is that, in situations like we suffer today, things have to get a whole lot worse before the resistance is energized – and that usually leads to chaos and death, if history is any guide.

Is this what we want for America? Or, would it be better for The People, the cause of justice and the future of the world, if those we have entrusted to protect and defend the Constitution would actually do their jobs?

The failure, it seems, is not confined to the Bush administration; it has expanded to include virtually the whole of the three branches of government. This does not portend well for the future of this country. The only questions that remain, amidst the mind-numbing threats of today, are how long it will take before The People realize the danger, and will that realization come in time.

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A side comment. . .
Posted by: monkeywrench on Nov 6, 2007 1:26 PM   
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Is Bush miffed because Musharref has thwarted the march to democracy in Pakistan by declaring martial law and himself dictator –– or simply because Musharref has upstaged Bush and his plans for America in 2008?

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What If?
Posted by: tommy1957 on Nov 6, 2007 1:32 PM   
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Someone raised the issue that the president could declare marshal law and suspend the constitutional rights and ultimately suspend voting in this country like the recent events in Pakistan. We now know there is a plan in existence for such a scenario. What we don’t know are the contents of the classified plan or what events would need to take place for it to be implemented. It is not to far fetched to believe if Hillary Clinton or Barrack Obama were the nominee for the Democrats and had a substantial lead in the polls along with other races in the congressional and state house’s the neo-cons might feel panicked and decide to create a state of emergency. What they would do one can only guess, but I would not put it pass them. We know now all to well about the sleazy tactics that have been used by the republicans and so do most of the citizens of this country. I know they will try their smear campaign tactics first because of past victories, but if they fail to persuade the American public through lies and fear mongering, do not put it past them to create a situation either through distortion and lies or an actual event that causes the loss of life to maintain control of our government. Remember; like Mao ultimate plan to rule the world; they have a plan for conservative domination of this country. We can only hope that our military leaders will refuse to violate the US Constitution for which they have sworn an oath to uphold and protect. The declaration of “Marshal Law” based on a fabrication would in itself be a violation of the constitution. As we know, Mr. Rumsfield pretty much cleaned house of free thinking generals who would oppose such a move. I can not say for sure how many of the current military leaders are nothing more than puppets, whose strings are being pulled by the puppet master. As you know the constitution is being violated everyday with illegal wire taps and surveillance of US citizens all in the name of “Homeland Security”. It sounds a bit like “Protecting the Mother Land”; one of Stalin’s favorite reasons to execute 100,000 of Russian and Soviet block citizens. However, within the rank and file of our military, I know that many of our young individual service men and woman will not pick up a weapon and use it against our citizenry like those of the National Guard members at Kent State. I only hope that our fine young men and woman in uniform remember that they have the right to refuse an unlawful order; such as enforcing an order of “Marshal Law” in America.

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KO is the best
Posted by: Grandma Crabby on Nov 6, 2007 2:04 PM   
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Keith's comment last night was probably the best five minutes in all of TV news history.

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Levin 2008 Olbermann
Posted by: TruthBeKnown on Nov 6, 2007 3:46 PM   
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Olbermann and Levin are brave and truthful men.

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I called Feinstein's office to object.
Posted by: tap17x on Nov 6, 2007 3:49 PM   
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If she votes for Mukasey she will never get a nickel from me for re-election and maybe no Dems will either. We might as well have a Refucklican senator instead of her. Voting for him is a disgusting disgrace. Congress needs to wake up and fight terror - that is, the terror emanating from the White House. It's much more dangerous than any Muslim.

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Bush Consults Clinton for Advice... Results
Posted by: SirWolfie on Nov 7, 2007 12:44 PM   
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“It all depends on what your definition of Lying is or means."

Is the TRUTH about to unfold on all roads traveled?

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bigtime
Posted by: pnut on Nov 7, 2007 7:13 PM   
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Oh Oh what to do? Keith has put his life at risk telling the truth about Mr. Bush & Co., this is the bravest man I have ever seen, he has no fear. I live in western Kentucky (Mr. Bush & Co.) territory no one here has read a word Keith has written, no news outlet has ever written a word about Keith good or bad (in w. ky.) but if Mr. Bush & Co. whisper one lie or other wise it is front page. My country has been stolen,. we no longer have a country. I can not believe we have let Mr. Bush & Co. steel our very souls, we are lost and even the brave Keith can not save us it is over we have had it, one year ago I gave us a 50-50 chance but it is lost. Keith you are a very brave man, please dont stop even though I have given up some people may have hope and as for as I can tell you are the only brave man left in this country. Bill Davidson

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