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Florida College Student Tasered After Asking John Kerry About Contesting '04 Election [VIDEO]

Posted by GottaLaff at 5:06 AM on September 18, 2007.


Six cops. One college student with a big mouth. Yeah, that's fair.
Student Tasered at Kerry Event

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This post, written by GottaLaff, originally appeared on Brave New Films

UPDATE II: Romney makes fun of the whole tasering incident. Read about it here

Thanks to reader Impeach Bush for this:

U.S. Sen. John Kerry's speech at the University of Florida came to a dramatic close Monday, shortly after a vocal audience member was hauled off by police and shot with a Taser gun.

He's a college student. He resisted, but he did not start any violence, threaten an officer, or hurt anyone.

The student claimed that University Police Department officers had already threatened to arrest him, and then proceeded to question Kerry about why he didn't contest the 2004 presidential election and why there had been no moves to impeach President Bush.

A minute or so into what became a combative diatribe, Meyer's microphone was turned off and officers began trying to physically remove him from the auditorium. Meyer flailed his arms, yelling as police tried to restrain him.

A fellow student who witnessed the event was appalled, saying that the officers escalated the situation. He also said that Meyer had acted inappropriately by "rushing" the microphone and forcing a question on Kerry.

But he didn't think Meyers deserved this:

He was then pushed to the ground by six officers, at which point Meyer yelled, "What have I done? What I have I done? Get away from me. Get off of me! What did I do? ... Help me! Help."

Police threatened to user a Taser on Meyer if he did not "comply," but he continued to resist being handcuffed. He was then Tased, which prompted him to scream and writhe in pain on the floor of the auditorium.

6 cops. One college student with a big mouth. Yeah, that's fair.

Other than acknowledging Meyers' question, Kerry apparently did nothing.

UPDATE: Kerry condemns student's arrest

At the ABC's Political Radar blog, Rick Klein reports that Kerry is condemning the arrest of 21-year-old University of Florida student Andrew Meyer.

"In 37 years of public appearances, through wars, protests and highly emotional events, I have never had a dialogue end this way," Kerry wrote in a statement. "I believe I could have handled the situation without interruption, but I do not know what warnings or other exchanges transpired between the young man and the police prior to his barging to the front of the line and their intervention. I asked the police to allow me to answer the question and was in the process of responding when he was taken into custody."

"I was not aware that a taser was used until after I left the building," Kerry added. "I hope that neither the student nor any of the police were injured. I regret enormously that a good healthy discussion was interrupted."

Klein adds, "Kerry, who was the Democrats’ nominee in 2004, is no longer assigned Secret Service protection, and does not bring his own security to events. That left University of Florida police in charge of security -- to notable results on Monday."

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Removed, Maybe. Tasered? Hell No!
Posted by: cellorelio on Sep 18, 2007 5:29 AM   
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The student who apparently hijacked the mic may very well have warranted removal from the auditorium and, possibly, detainment. But once the cops had him on the ground, there was no reason on earth they should have used weapons on him.

This is yet another disgraceful example of the new police state in which we live. The chilling effect of this incident is that now, even in the back of our minds, we will think twice about confronting the liars and speaking truth to power.

What can we do to stop the steady erosion of the rights and liberties that were once guaranteed us? Is there a national protest being organized against the UF police Dept.?

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» you get what you have coming to you Posted by: KaptainSpiffy
This is apalling
Posted by: staringatthesun on Sep 18, 2007 5:35 AM   
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Our people are now going to face excessive force for imposing serious questions on our politicians? This young man was exercising his First amendment right and was brutally punished for it. Why did these people just sit there and ignore the situation? Clearly the law isn't acting to protect students from this sort of brutality as this is a repeat from UCLA, although this time it was even more flagrantly excessive. If students do not stand together in the face of these university police forces then the police will not be made to see that their actions are not acceptable.

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» RE: This is apalling Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: This is apalling Posted by: Axiom69
» RE: This is apalling Posted by: buffeliscious
» Yes, it is Posted by: bluebirdella
Here is what prompted his removal
Posted by: Angry and Black on Sep 18, 2007 5:56 AM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaiWCS10C5s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCBcOQkUNjI

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» Oh Tucker Posted by: Tombo
Yes.. what exactly was the arrestable offense? nm
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Sep 18, 2007 6:10 AM   
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nm

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» Answer: dissent Posted by: katz22br
» RE: Answer: dissent Posted by: Kitty Lady Oregon
» RE: Answer: dissent Posted by: katz22br
Democracy in action....
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Sep 18, 2007 6:12 AM   
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... with Saint Kerry standing right there doing nothing. You don't know if you can blame him? You don't miss 6 cops putting someone on the ground to arrest them. He could have called off the pigs, answered the question, and then asked that order be respected.... instead he played shill for the police state.

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» RE: Democracy in action.... Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: Democracy in action.... Posted by: peacefullaim
» Did what he could???? Posted by: JoshuaLudd
» RE: Democracy in action.... Posted by: buffeliscious
» Dylan is good... but... Posted by: JoshuaLudd
Second time in a week that the Brownshirts have....
Posted by: sphoenix on Sep 18, 2007 6:25 AM   
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accosted someone who was exercising their (now irrelevant) First Amendment rights.

So, this is the New World Order at work...pay attention. With the law Bush passed in July:

"I have issued an Executive Order blocking property of persons determined to have committed, or to pose a significant risk of committing, an act or acts of violence that have the purpose or effect of threatening the peace or stability of Iraq or the Government of Iraq or undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq or to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people." -Issued July 17, 2007 – GWBush

All that is necessary to be arrested, or worse, is to speak out in public against the governments actions. Now we are seeing police, both private and public, resorting to the most brutal tactics of suppression. We had people standing up and speaking out during the Viet Nam era that were far more animated and vocal than this young man, without being brutalized by the establishment's Storm Troopers.

But all of that is different now. Our country has become one where a person speaking out against any government action is running the risk of arrest...this is wrong!! These are the tactics of the Nazi's before Hitler really came into power. Hitler had a private army of over 300,000 loyal Nazi's that were terrorizing the German people and coercing them into swinging their votes to the Nazi party. We simply have Blackwater and the government's police force (aka the SS) to keep the populace heading in the direction that the "leaders" of this country want them to go. The Nazi's main tool was terror!

Well, what are we seeing now? Don't you feel terrified when you see a group of armed police taking down a single unarmed citizen? That makes you afraid doesn't it? Well, the tactic works...how many of us will have the guts to go up to a microphone, like this young man, and speak their mind without fear of reprisal from the "law" now? What about all of those sheep, who sat in their chairs while the young man was calling for help? The simple answer is that there is nowhere to go for help now...until people grow a spine and challenge authority.

Police get away with this behavior because, We the People, are afraid of them and our rapidly disintegrating legal system. With the laws written the way they are now...the young man could be tagged as a terrorist and locked away for years without hope of a trial.

Yes, I am being a bit dramatic...but this is a pattern that is beginning to repeat itself with alarming regularity. This is going to get worse...much worse...it can't get better yet, because like an addict, our government and our people haven't hit rock bottom yet.

I'm not sure what I would have done if I was present at this event. But I am beginning to feel like it's becoming wabbit season....

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» Well, now.. here's a question... Posted by: JoshuaLudd
» RE: None Posted by: katz22br
Nice to know
Posted by: zutronius on Sep 18, 2007 6:36 AM   
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It's nice to know we live in a society that would much rather have you shut up and obey than speak your mind and get the crap kicked out of you for doing so. Going against the currents "society" isn't a good thing apparently?

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Police riot
Posted by: sausage on Sep 18, 2007 6:42 AM   
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Kerry wasn't to blame. The UF student isn't to blame. The blame rests entirely with UF campus security for the outcome of this incident.

Asking Kerry if he was a member of Skull and Bones, and he was, is a legitimate question. Asking Kerry why he didn't contest the '04 election is a legitimate question.

I hope the kids sues.

Meanwhile, in the wake of the Virginia Tech shooting incident, my state's board of regents is planning to arm, as in handguns, campus cops at its three main state universities. Handing out pistols to these campus Barnie Fife's is sweeping the nation.

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» RE: Police riot Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: Police riot Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: Police riot Posted by: k#h#
» RE: Police riot Posted by: Lauren
» RE: Police riot Posted by: bikerdude
» RE: Police riot Posted by: Lauren
POE
Posted by: janiepoe on Sep 18, 2007 7:09 AM   
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OMG THE COPS(PIGS) ARE TORTURING OUR CHILDREN AGAIN, AND IN FRONT OF SEN. KERRY, KERRY IS THIS HOW YOU PROTECT OUR CHILDREN? THESE INSANE REPTILE MINED(OR NASCAR FAN MENTALLY) COPS ARE DANGEROUS! ALL PUT IN CONTROL BY THIS EVILNESS PUT UPON OUR WORLD BY THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION. I WANT TO HEAR KERRYS ANSWERS TO THOES QUESTIONS,AS SAME AS EVERYBODY ELSE. MR. MEYERS SUE THESE EVIL COPS, AND GOD BLESS YOU FOR ASKING WHAT WE ALL WANT TO HEAR FROM KERRYS MOUTH!

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» RE: POE Posted by: JSquercia
» RE: POE Posted by: realgem63
» Wasn't Kerry's Kid Posted by: bluebirdella
this is horrible
Posted by: nebgirl on Sep 18, 2007 7:24 AM   
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the attack on the student was just horrible and one of the most frightening things i have ever seen in this country. what happened to our first amendment rights?

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» RE: this is horrible Posted by: BigDogPimpdog
» RE: this is horrible Posted by: BigDogPimpdog
Cops Are Just Cops
Posted by: InsertNameHere on Sep 18, 2007 7:44 AM   
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I don't see much difference here from cops of any other time. They're cops. What do you expect? It takes a special kind of weirdo to want to be a cop.

I don't think cops care too much about the politics of their government, they just do what they are told to do. They love their work and that work is arresting people who step out of line with the law.

Yes, a lot of times it is questionable, but if a cop wants to arrest you, they have all kinds of little BS charges they can stick to someone; disturbing the peace, resisting arrest, mischief etc. I happen to believe that their new little Tazer toy is a little much, and because it is considered non-lethal, it has the potential to be too easy to fall back on.

The best thing for this guy to have done would have been to not flail his arms, but just go limp and make them carry him out. He should have asked why he was being arrested without screaming it out. If the cops had acted in the same way, it would have been a better illustration of heavy-handed tactics and then student activists would have a better case to take to whoever administers the campus cops.

You can't beat the cops with resistance, it simply isn't going to work. Singling one or two out in a complaint won't help either, because the cops will circle wagons and protect each other. You have to attack the administrators, of the university and the police and shame them publicly into action. I know people want to confront issues like these on the fact that arresting someone like this is pretty bogus but you have to use PR. If you are going to the court of public opinion and they see a college kid flailing around resisting arrest, it's not going to play well.

It's bullshit, but that's the way public opinion is formed and persuaded to your side.

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» RE: Cops Are Just Cops Posted by: MobileSucks
Death to the pigs! Death to the University of Florida!
Posted by: darkenergy on Sep 18, 2007 7:54 AM   
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This must elicit a forceful response. It is time for the Left to begin a campaign of retaliation.

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Aaaah, FINALLY, everyone is starting to "get" it!!! And Kerry did ....
Posted by: Prophit on Sep 18, 2007 7:55 AM   
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.... nothing. This author gives Kerry a huge break by saying he didn't see or it "maybe" he didn't see it??? The elite are afraid of us and this shows how deeply afraid they are. Even Kerry. Of course we knew that when he wouldn't fight over the 2004 election, so what can we expect now. The message is "repression, quick, violent and effective". It stopped the questioning.... now, will someone tell us if Kerry ever answered that question???

This is a police state folks. Get used to it. This is 1935 Germany where the state rules. This is nothing, just wait until a guy like this disappears into a mental ward for acting crazy. Its coming and will get worse. Better start thinking of more effective ways to fight this police state cause exercising free speech won't get it.

We are coming into times when Kent state will look like a picnic if this CONGRESS DOES NOT IMPEACH THESE GUYS WHO ARE DOING THIS. Remember the demonstrations this weekend and how a RECORD number were arrested, I believe it was 192. That is an amazing number. They were released without charges, so it wasn't that they did anything really wrong, it was to send a message. Well, I got it loud and clear. I Won 't demonstrate, I will act.

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An Auditorium of Sheep
Posted by: tineleyspice on Sep 18, 2007 7:58 AM   
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I am shocked that the members of the audience just sat
there with sheepish grins on their faces while their
classmate was hauled out of the room. They JUST SAT THERE.

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» RE: An Auditorium of Sheep Posted by: Marvin_KC
Devils advocate
Posted by: Axiom69 on Sep 18, 2007 7:58 AM   
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Just so I understand lets go over the facts. Kerry was there to talk to the audience. A mic was provided so the audience could ask questions. A student "rushed" the mic and demanded to be heard? The video doesn't show the beginning when the student went to the mic so I am guessing. The student was asked to sit down but continued his questioning. Then the video starts with the cops already behind the student. Right so far? With this type of question and answer forum there has to be some sort of order otherwise it just becomes a chaotic shouting match which is unfair to those that actually wanted to hear what the Senator had to say. Beats me why anyone would want to hear Kerry but alot of people did vote for him.
So here we are. The cops are there and give the student a choice. Sit down and let the forum continue or be removed. He refused. So what should the cops have done? Let the student continue his tirade and exercise his first ammendment rights. Let him continue disrupting the question and answer period? What about the other people who had questions to ask? What about their first ammendment rights? Aren't they alowed to be heard? Why should they sit there and listen to this student's rants when they have questions of their own?
So here is the question I ask all of you. When this student became disruptive and refused to return to his seat, what should the cops have done?

Here are some choices of what the cops could have done.
1. Nothing.
2. Ask him to sit down and when he refuses then do nothing.
3. Give him the choice of sitting down or be removed, when he refuses do nothing.
4. Give him the choice of sitting down or be removed, when he refuses remove him.

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» Remember "Babel" Posted by: Doug Indeap
» RE: 'Scuse...umm... Posted by: Doug Indeap
averageaussie
Posted by: averageaussie on Sep 18, 2007 8:01 AM   
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So what's it going to be next week? Reverend Yearwood last week, student tasered this week, how long is it going to be before some of the bystanders start fighting back, instead of sheepishly looking on? It WILL, and maybe should, happen , then we'll see some real action, not just pissy little tasers. Jeez, bring out the real "heavies", Maybe THAT'S what it will take to bring about some change. Looking on from outside the us it seems that things have changed dramatically since I was there last, It wasn't anything special then and appears to now be spiralling further out of control. Land of the free? If it wasn't so tragic it'd be funny.
Seems the false, plastic bullshit bubble that I saw then has crumbled further.
Mission Accomplished.

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BE VERY AWARE...
Posted by: Roverton on Sep 18, 2007 8:21 AM   
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... of WHO it is, that ACTUALLY WANTS US TO BE VIOLENT. What a clever conservative trick that would be.

MARTIAL LAW, kids.

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» who was violent? Posted by: bluebirdella
John Kerry is a United States Senator...and...
Posted by: picket on Sep 18, 2007 8:21 AM   
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Senators compromise they do not take BOLD action. I expected more from him just because he came close to being our US President. I am extremely disappointed in Kerry..He was in Viet Nam [supposedly,so they told us] defending the US Constitution.
Kerry does not want to make WAVES. I want to hear from him with a brave, heroic response BUT I am not holding my breath.

We need to ask the current crop of Democratic Presidential candidates what they thought of the incident. There is no doubt that we are living in a police state.

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It's just a metter of time...
Posted by: fluffmuffinmom on Sep 18, 2007 8:32 AM   
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before we have another Kent State-like tragedy. My son is a politically involved college student and I'm afraid for him.

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» RE: It's just a metter of time... Posted by: Nedtheredhead
I hope a law suit comes out of this....?
Posted by: Marvin_KC on Sep 18, 2007 8:36 AM   
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between the university of california (i believe) rent-a-cops that tasered the ethnic iranian student last year, the kansas city, missouri cops which nearly lead the nation in insubstantial cases of taser usage (including pregnant womaen), and tons of others all accross the nation, something has to be done about the willy-nilly use of tasers. more deaths are due to tasers than one would believe. trauma takes over the human system when confrontations like the aforementioned transpire.

there was absolutely no reason to taser him. i think the shrill john kerry could be asked about many worse things. it is shameful that the coward the tomato king is did not handle it better.

why did not he or other students defend this guy. i think the pussy crowd tells you a lot about how the rabid corporate-police state already has 85% of america enclosed in a mental cage.

!viva la revelucion!

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The world of the new Amerika
Posted by: outlander55 on Sep 18, 2007 8:41 AM   
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I have issued an Executive Order blocking property of persons determined to have committed, or to pose a significant risk of committing, an act or acts of violence that have the purpose or effect of threatening the peace or stability of Iraq or the Government of Iraq or undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq or to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people." -Issued July 17, 2007 – G.W.Bush
It appalls me to see what this nation has become. I have watched four different videos of this incident and not once did I hear the police tell the young man that he was under arrest. From what I could see, he was tazered after he was hand cuffed. Brave cops, huh? To charge him with resisting police is ludicrous at best. The police are trying to cover their collective asses for over reacting. This is what our nation has become. And it will only get worse if we, the people don't do something to curb the behavior of our "protectors". Americans who honestly believe in the Constitution and the First Amendment should take to the streets to voice their disapproval at this shameful use of force to quell a voice in a public assembly.
Welcome to the new Amerika.
Good night and good luck...

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» RE: The world of the new Amerika Posted by: darkenergy
As I posted on the Yearwood deal....
Posted by: ekipnrut on Sep 18, 2007 8:43 AM   
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..time to get the shit kickers out.....BUT remember,I understand that it was the STUDENTS who organized the event who put the cops on this guy.....THEY also need to be
exposed and lambasted just as much as the cops...as for Kerry.....what a gutless worthless ' pussy'.....

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...HE WAS RESISTING ARREST
Posted by: Sagan on Sep 18, 2007 9:35 AM   
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This is a pretty simple one, guys.

He was resisting arrest. The police acted in response to his resistance.

Whether or not his arrest was justified, once he began resisting, police were enabled to use whatever means they deemed necessary to subdue him.

THINK ABOUT IT FOR A SECOND....
Have you ever seen footage of Martin Luther King or Ghandi and their followers bouncing around, yelling and screaming while police arrest them.

NO.

STOP MOVING, SHUT YOUR MOUTH, AND DON'T RESIST ARREST. If the cops are brutal and use excessive force, let the world see that for themselves.
You NEVER saw Martin Luther King pulling the nonsense this kid does.

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» He's not MLK, Jr. so give him a break Posted by: fluffmuffinmom
» Your post is crap. Posted by: darkenergy
Now is the time
Posted by: dainin on Sep 18, 2007 9:55 AM   
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...to decide whether we will be free, or not. In a free society, people can ask questions, even about a politician's membership in fraternal societies.

Why is this Skull and Bones question off limits?

What question will you be dragged away for asking?

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Kerry Was Complicit in Rape of Democracy - Violation of 1st Ammendment Right to Freedom of Speech
Posted by: colleenwhalen on Sep 18, 2007 10:11 AM   
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Kerry is absolutely responsible for DOING NOTHING and being utterly complicit in the police violating the students right to First Ammendment Freedom of Speech, Right to Assembly and Right to Ask Government for Redress. Now that it is illegal to ask a politican a direct question - clearly we are living in the early days of the Third Reich! Under Bush's Military & Commissions Act of 2006 which was rubberstamped by even liberal Democrats in Congress/Senate ANY American citizen can be arrested, without a shred of evidence, without charges, denied Habeus Corpus, sexually tortured and sent indifinitely to the top secret underground naval military prision in Charleston South Carolina and rot in a prison cell for an indeterminate period of time. If any American citizen questions a politican - they can be arrested - it happened at UCLA when an American born citizen of Iranian ancestry, an enrolled college student was doing homework at a UCLA computer lab. He was arrested by campus security for the crime of being "Muslim looking" and laser tasered, beaten and assaulted.

What is even more frightening is NOBODY in the student audience stood up and defended the student who was arrested for the crime of just asking a question. Read Stanley Milgrims, 1961 Stanford University research study on the behavorial science research why people are complicit with torture and sadistic acts. Basically, 95% of people are gutless cowards, people are sheep - too scared shitless to even speak up. The entire audience was cowardly - Kerry was cowardly and Kerry looks like he just let the cops assault an innocent student because he asked a question that put Kerry on the spot. Why even have elections anymore?

Welcome to the Brave New World.

When Kerry was a pile of soggy wet mush while he was Swiftboated and trashed about his Vietnam service, accused of destertion and cowardice - Kerry said NOTHING about Bush's FIVE DEFERMENTS AND GOING AWOL for 6 months from Alabama National Guard. I genuinely believe Kerry deliberately ran a crappy campaign because he WANTED Bush to win - Kerry is a Forbes - his middle name is Forbes, it is his mother's maiden name - forget about Skull and Bones - that is milk and cookies....Forbes Magazine, Forbes Fortune 500 is the MOTHERSHIP OF CAPITALISM

Bush and Kerry come from the same gene pool - East Coast Establishment,
Old Guard, Prep School at Choate, Yale, - Bush and Kerry are both very old Yankee New England families who were Colonial Selectmen ancestors - Bush is a Prescott and Kerry is a Forbes - the Prescotts in Colonial New England were judges at the Salem Witch Trials.

Kerry is supporting CAFTA, NAFTA, Bildenberg Group, Bretton Woods Organizations and Corporate Mafia IG Farbin.

Kerry was complicit in allowing and tolerating egregious election fraud in Ohio in 2004. Hundreds of thousands of validly registered black voters were tossed off Voters Registration polls in 2004 Ohio - just as in Florida 2000 hundreds of thousands of black voters were illegally purged from Voters Registration rosters. Is it a "conicicence" that in 2000 Kathleen Harris, Florida Registrar of Voters simultaneously served as Florida State Chair to Elect Bush? This is felony conflict of interest - no man can serve two masters. Registrar of Voters job is supposed to be non-partisan. AGAIN, in 2004, Kenneth Blackwell, Ohio Registrar of Voters simultaneously served as Ohio "Re-Elect Bush" campaign official.

Do I really need to connect the dots? The heirarchy of the fossilized, senior leadership of the Democrat Party did NOTHING to seriously contest election fraud. Check out Michael Moore's opening segment of 'Farenheit 9/11" Al Gore was pleading on the floor of the legislature for JUST ONE Congressperson to come forward and sign the form to decertify the election. Not even ONE Democrat legislator was willing to do this

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Kerry Was Complicit in Rape of Democracy - Violation of 1st Ammendment Right to Freedom of Speech
Posted by: colleenwhalen on Sep 18, 2007 10:15 AM   
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Kerry is absolutely responsible for DOING NOTHING and being utterly complicit in the police violating the students right to First Ammendment Freedom of Speech, Right to Assembly and Right to Ask Government for Redress. Now that it is illegal to ask a politican a direct question - clearly we are living in the early days of the Third Reich! Under Bush's Military & Commissions Act of 2006 which was rubberstamped by even liberal Democrats in Congress/Senate ANY American citizen can be arrested, without a shred of evidence, without charges, denied Habeus Corpus, sexually tortured and sent indifinitely to the top secret underground naval military prision in Charleston South Carolina and rot in a prison cell for an indeterminate period of time. If any American citizen questions a politican - they can be arrested - it happened at UCLA when an American born citizen of Iranian ancestry, an enrolled college student was doing homework at a UCLA computer lab. He was arrested by campus security for the crime of being "Muslim looking" and laser tasered, beaten and assaulted.

What is even more frightening is NOBODY in the student audience stood up and defended the student who was arrested for the crime of just asking a question. Read Stanley Milgrims, 1961 Stanford University research study on the behavorial science research why people are complicit with torture and sadistic acts. Basically, 95% of people are gutless cowards, people are sheep - too scared shitless to even speak up. The entire audience was cowardly - Kerry was cowardly and Kerry looks like he just let the cops assault an innocent student because he asked a question that put Kerry on the spot. Why even have elections anymore?

Welcome to the Brave New World.

When Kerry was a pile of soggy wet mush while he was Swiftboated and trashed about his Vietnam service, accused of destertion and cowardice - Kerry said NOTHING about Bush's FIVE DEFERMENTS AND GOING AWOL for 6 months from Alabama National Guard. I genuinely believe Kerry deliberately ran a crappy campaign because he WANTED Bush to win - Kerry is a Forbes - his middle name is Forbes, it is his mother's maiden name - forget about Skull and Bones - that is milk and cookies....Forbes Magazine, Forbes Fortune 500 is the MOTHERSHIP OF CAPITALISM

Bush and Kerry come from the same gene pool - East Coast Establishment,
Old Guard, Prep School at Choate, Yale, - Bush and Kerry are both very old Yankee New England families who were Colonial Selectmen ancestors - Bush is a Prescott and Kerry is a Forbes - the Prescotts in Colonial New England were judges at the Salem Witch Trials.

Kerry is supporting CAFTA, NAFTA, Bildenberg Group, Bretton Woods Organizations and Corporate Mafia IG Farbin.

Kerry was complicit in allowing and tolerating egregious election fraud in Ohio in 2004. Hundreds of thousands of validly registered black voters were tossed off Voters Registration polls in 2004 Ohio - just as in Florida 2000 hundreds of thousands of black voters were illegally purged from Voters Registration rosters. Is it a "conicicence" that in 2000 Kathleen Harris, Florida Registrar of Voters simultaneously served as Florida State Chair to Elect Bush? This is felony conflict of interest - no man can serve two masters. Registrar of Voters job is supposed to be non-partisan. AGAIN, in 2004, Kenneth Blackwell, Ohio Registrar of Voters simultaneously served as Ohio "Re-Elect Bush" campaign official.

Do I really need to connect the dots? The heirarchy of the fossilized, senior leadership of the Democrat Party did NOTHING to seriously contest election fraud. Check out Michael Moore's opening segment of 'Farenheit 9/11" Al Gore was pleading on the floor of the legislature for JUST ONE Congressperson to come forward and sign the form to decertify the election. Not even ONE Democrat, Liberal legislator was willing to do this

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A pig is a pig
Posted by: The Big Raven on Sep 18, 2007 10:27 AM   
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You arseholes who think this guy deserved this are just as guilty as the violent pigs. Go and put another vote in for your god bush

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Som'a'you guys don't watch so good...
Posted by: jimidee on Sep 18, 2007 10:30 AM   
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First Amendmant rights? WTF? If the kid had waited his turn and then asked the questions in a civil manner, and then the cops had reacted just because they didn't like the questions, you may have a point. That ain't what happened.

I have watched it over and over myself, and the kid had an arrest coming, as he provoked the cops. The taser part was excessive force though, IMHO, as he was already down with 6 cops on him. It was obvious that the taser was administered for punishment...something you can expect cops to do when you do not respect their "AUTHORITAY". It hurts for a minute and then goes away. Hell, he is lucky that they didn't shoot his ass!

The facts are:

*The kid rushed the mike cutting to the head of a line waiting to ask questions to a sitting US Senator in a small auditorium.

*The cops had already told the kid he would have to wait his turn when he started to run towards the mike, and he did it anyway.

*This in itself is cause for expulsion from the auditorium, if not arrest for disturbing the peace.

*The kid then refused over and over again to leave, and resisted arrest by physical means, although he was not striking out, he was violently pulling himself free.

*Although the kid repeated "What did I do!" over and over, it was obvious what he did, and he knew it.

*At that point the kid had given the cops the legal authority to do whatever they thought was appropriate...pretty dumb way to get yourself on the national news.

From what I could tell, the kid had valid questions that Kerry would have addressed, as Kerry asked repeatedly that he be allowed to respond, but the arrest was already in progress.

Moral of the story: Don't fuck with cops like this or it could end up the same way, or worse.

jimidang

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Being a sheep ain't that baaaaad
Posted by: Axiom69 on Sep 18, 2007 10:58 AM   
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I try and try. Try that is to encourage people to ask critical questions before being "outraged" because they are told they should be. The right and the left both use propaganda to further their cause. Little snippets of information, sound bites, quotes out of context and incomplete videos that while true on the surface distort the true meaning of what has taken place.
I have tried to encourage critical thinking on Alternet before by posing questions about a certain topic. Today I have been called a scumbag, facist and troll all by one poster. Why? Because I refuse to be "outraged" before I have all the facts. I refuse to be outraged just because someone tells me too. I want to know WHY first. The left points to Bush and his supporters and say they are sheep following a shepherd. Well if you get outraged everytime someone tells you too before checking the facts and backround on a story then you are a sheep too.
I am a middle of the road independent. I look to my left and right and all I see are sheep. Two flocks but all sheep.
Alernets slogan is "The mix is the message". What kind of mix is there if everyone has the same opinion? Why resort to name calling because someone disagree's with you? How will you ever change someones mind on a subject if you don't first try to understand how they formed their opinion in the first place? Then again I guess name calling is easier and more expedient than having an intelligent debate. Continue being sheep while I continue checking my facts and saving my outrage for a cause that deserves it. This one doesn't. I plan on changing the world, not just bitching about it.

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The title, "Florida College Student Tasered After Asking John Kerry About Contesting '04 Election"
Posted by: jimidee on Sep 18, 2007 11:19 AM   
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was inappropriate and inflammatory. It would have been just as pertinent if it had said:

Florida College Student Tasered After Having a Breakfast of Green Eggs and Ham

or:

Florida College Student Tasered After Taking an Unusually Long Dump That Morning

Sure, he had just asked the question (just like he had probably taken a dump that morning), but that purposely leaves out all of the pertinent info about the escalation of his behavior that resulted in the attempted eviction and subsequent arrest.

Plus, I cannot believe that there are those who blame K