Looks like "Wolf" could only manage to laugh nervously about the fact that he was now fully exposed as bought and paid for "infotainment."

Most of the news media is propaganda - and while that fact not really news in and of itself, it's true that few people know it or acknowledge it as a fact.

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Moore just went way up in my estimation. Blitzer is a nasty little propagandist that should NOT ever, have a public platform for his duplicitous agenda.

Hit him with Geneva Convention war crimes charge.

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I just saw a re-run of the interview on 'The Situation Room', I didn't catch the whole thing the first time. Looks like Mr. Moore caught them somewhat off guard. Not that it makes much difference, but it's nice to see someone call them on their agenda once in a while. He even went as far as saying that only Kucinich has come out with a detailed position on healthcare. The rest of the milquetoast Democrats are too busy 'triangulating'.

I caught Lou Dobb's remark about Mr. Moore being as much as a left supporter as Hugo Chavez. He also said '...surely he must like profit...' I don't remember the exact wording. Dobbs is so full of it. He claims to be a champion of the middle class, but really he tries to co-opt working class sensibilities with his racist, anti-immigrant rant.

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I'm kinda impressed they let him go on for so long. On Fox, they just cut you off if they dont like where you're going.

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Moore is magnificent..

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When will cnn ever addmit anything? NEVER for it just a propaganda tool just like that phoney dr. guppy

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An admitted propagandist like Michael Moore or the "newshounds" of the MSM?

Who had credibility in 1776, the henchmen of George III or the propagandist Thomas Paine?

Moore's rant about credibility was beautiful! Hard to imagine a more stinging indictment of the MSM - pointing out their track record as opposed to his.

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Listening to Mr Moore’s diatribe I understand why he is not more successful in getting his opinions across. He only preaches to the already faithful.

Universal Healthcare is an issue that you need to get across to everybody, Moore only alienates his opponents, he dos not convert them. His films therefore are meaningless.

This is a sad statement indeed since his issues are so important.

Shut him up and let his films speak for themselves. Hoe can he be as biased and stupid as not to understand how he comes across.

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Thank God for Michael Moore and his expose on the medical industry. We live in a world of lies and deception all to tweak our life's earnings out of our hard earned sweat. Most of the corrupt legislation passed today in some form or another is to take a little more here and a little more there. I am tired of all the blue blooded politicians and their cronies telling me how to live why they rob the country blind.

Patrick Faiola
Saratoga, NY

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So, instead of directly providing the informantion as to what was misleading in the CNN's report, he just attacks WOlf Blitzer.

Again, while there were no outright lie in Moore's last movie, he is again being ishonest in the context in which he provides the facts.

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That was the most fantastic dressing down of the richly deserving mainstream, corporate, zionist media I have ever seen. These clowns have no credibility, they are not even remotely doing their job (unless the up to the minute Anna Nicole Smith coverage counts as news to you) and have become nothing but a dangerous propaganda institution for corporations and the government. Michael did an absolutely outstanding job of exposing them for what they are!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-8aTGnjHnI

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That's a fine post of a video. But the use of the phrase "mainstream media" is using *their* language. It leaps out as an adoption of a term--"mainstream"--that implies the majority are either behind or swayed by the media. But the polls show a majority of Americans are quite progressive in their policy preferences. A better adjective, a more progressive adjective is simply "corporate." Not "mainstream" media but corporate media. Not "privitatization" but "corporatization." Not "moderate" Democrats, but corporate Democrats.

If someone has a good argument for using such terms as "mainstream" instead of "corporate" I'd like to hear it. I haven't. Let's develop and use our own terms, favorable to our own agenda: a new progressive regime to replace the old corporate regime.

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GO GO GO!

It's time to rise up and get rid of the Bush administration and this complicit media.

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If you did you would know that being polite and extra erudite about the facts means no one pays attention to you, especially with the current 9 to 1 bias of conservative/fascist voices on the airwaves. We should all be rioting in the streets, let alone encouraging passionate voices like Moore's. He may not be the perfect politician but at least he speaks from the gut and tries to wake a few people up. I am so ashamed of the sheeple my people have become!

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Even he can be a bit extremist his points of view balance out the lies of our politicians and country rulers.

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I'll never forget hearing Wolf defending Bush's National Guard record during the 2004 presidential campaign by saying there was no evidence that Shrub ever went AWOL during the Vietnam War, even though the Boston Globe had proved the allegation with ANG records obtained through the Freedom of Information Act.

I've also noticed that Blitzer never uses the word "neocon" or mentions PNAC. He would better serve America as a TV weather man.

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Forget Wolf. Go see "Sicko". Health care for Americans means a lot to me, but the scene from "Sicko" that I remember most was a quote from a former member of British Parliament. He told Moore that the American government actually fears Democracy. Your government wants you poor and in fear so you will not rebel against it. BINGO! What I learned from the film, is that Hillary is a mere shill for the insurance-drug co. lobby. The two-party system is corrupt. As Bill Moyers said, "Money ruined Democracy. Washington is lost. All we have left is the grassroots." You, this reader, are the grassroots. Do not give-up! Bush/Rove/Cheney cannot win the battle against our "Founding Fathers". They are dead, we are not!

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This graph of the actual UN data might tell the REAL story

I have been playing with a new Google gadget that graphs the facts about what is happening from the actual UN data.

The most significant points that I could use were concentration of Doctors (Cuba has more per person than any other country), life expectancy, and child mortality, in all three cases the US is way back of the pack, including Western Europe, Canada, Israel, Japan, Singapore, Austrailia, and New Zealand.

Cuba is very marginally worse but is moving ahead rapidly while the US falls behind more countries every year.

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good for michael moore. Woof Blitzer is a pussy. and now a lousy journalist Moore speaks the truth and blitzer is toungetied, because it is all true. how do you defend bullshit? you can't

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I fully support Michael Moore and his ideas. He asks the hard questions. HOWEVER - if he had just replied adamantly but calmly on each incorrect thing in Dr Gupta's report, it would have had much more impact. He totally went off topic, and lost an opportunity to confirm the truths in his SICKO film.

Wolf definately deserved the tirade, but this wasn't the time or the place. It just made Michael look like a PSYCHO! (his next film maybe about mental health care?!)

Please Michael, don't stoop to yelling conservatives' level. Be steadfast, and just continually dispute bull**** with fact upon fact upon fact - like you do in your films.

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I thought the interview was rather disappointing and did little to further intelligent discourse on this subject. Michael Moore spent too much time throwing out red herrings, non sequiturs, and ad hominem arguments. Wolf, at least, while he may have shortsighted the exchange, attempted to address the issue (health care) and get some answers.

I don't see how Moore could call the video CNN ran before his interview as crap. I thought it did a good job of providing another view to the health care debate. It's very curious that SiCKO shows very little positives of American health care and few negatives of Canada's, Britain's, France's, and Cuba's health care.

As for the actual blog entry accompanying this video, I don't see anything particularly wrong with the mainstream media trying to debunk Moore's claims. That's the most fitting and proper course of action to determine the crux and truth of the matters Moore presents. Now, whether or not the mainstream media debunks them properly is another matter altogether. But it's good that there's dissent following Moore's films - they are documentaries, posing supposedly factual information. It's a lot different than simply going to the theater and enjoying Die Hard 4.0.

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For those who think Dr. Gupta's report made any sense, that it wasn't clearly biased and factually wrong, check out the response on Michael Moore's web site. It's detailed and referenced, something not well suited to a television discussion. If you still think after going through that that Dr. Gupta was not biased, well, you probably just can't think.

'SiCKO' Truth Squad Sets CNN Straight

The difference between Michael Moore and Sanjay Gupta is that Moore presents the facts that support his opinion while Gupta presents his opinion and deceptively calls it fact. It isn't just another opinion if it's wrong.

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That was fuuuuuckin' sweet. Moore is hitting at the heart of the issue which is that no one holds the media accountable anymore. I'm glad he took the opportunity to do so when he could have just hyped his film.

Fight the Youth

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but a fraud and liar. You notice how he attacks Wolf and CNN about the facts of his last film. His predictions in the last film were not fact when the films were made and most "facts" in the film weren't. He uses the same tactics that the maker of Borac used. The guy has found a way to make a lot of money and his attitude towards Wolf shows he could care less about the health system,he is a promoter,and a good one. The guy is attacking a network that supports most everything he does again proving he really has no idea what he is talking about.
He is your typical leftist, who often loses his argument because of his rage and mendacity. He fails to win over those on the other side because of his ignorance. His style is great for making money from films but sucks for changing the healthcare system.

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You have been a shameless corporate whore CNN. You deserved everything Michael Moore said to you and hundreds of hours more of it. You have aided and abetted your parent companies while they have purposely and traitorously lied this Country into war, to make huge profits. Wars and war profiteering go hand in evil hand.

"The sale of weapons shapes the plan (SPIN) the way the hammer shapes the hand" - Jackson Browne.

No amount of spin will be able to hide the truth of what has been going on behind the scenes of your ugly heinous complicity with crimes against humanity and torture - for - profit. You have sold your souls to the devil and Michael Moore has exposed you in broad daylight! As far as Wolf, Guppta, Dobbs and that other sycophant Cafferty, it is obvios to all, that they just got up off their knees, after all these years of kissing the war - for - profit - corporate - ass and sucking their **** for a living. Go Michael Moore long may you run!

Long after all you corporate shills have gone down in history as the rotten pimps - of - horror that you allowed yourselves to become, Michael Moore will be etched forever in the HALLS OF HEROES.

We’ll all be dead, one day and it comes along much more rapidly than most believe. The only thing that remains of us is OUR LEGACY- What we stood for. Most of you in the CORPORATE PROPAGANDA BUSINESS (msm) will only be remembered for the horror that you could have stopped. But instead for a few pieces of silver -which tomorrow will be nothing more than rust - chose to look the other way, when truth could have prevented the atrocities that now bear your name. NICE LEGACY. But Michael will be remembered and loved and respected for his bravery, honesty courage and goodness.

I hope that your short expensive ride on a cheap hooker was worth it.

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Michael Moore assumes that Wolf Blitzer is CAPABLE of telling the truth, and, if so, is free to tell the truth. I wouldn't bet a nickel on either proposition. More likely, considering Blitzer's background, he was chosen for the job based upon his ability to seamlessly eschew the truth. How else could he or any American "journalist" spend so much time reporting on the Middle East and expect to remain employed?

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The Left is starting to fight back - with the big guns a'blazing! We're not going to passively sit by and let these hideous bastards define who we are any longer!

Good for you, Mike! The sleeping giant of American Progressivism has awoken after a long and bitter sleep. We're going to take our country back.

Look out, baby!

Tom Degan
Goshen, NT
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Moore's comments opened my eyes. CNN has no clothes.

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If you hear something enough, you'll believe. That's medical and psychological research as well as history talking, not me. So turn off the TV. Don't pick up crap like USA Today. If you listen, it just takes time to start working your mouth to form their words. My most liberal friends now repeat the right wing talking point about Bowling for Columbine: "Moore stretches things. That bank didn't have guns in it." As if that was the point at all.

The mainstream media says: "Forget everything that matters; just believe what we tell you. Buy the things and ideas we sell. Stay seated. Relax." The same goes for many left sources, like all the ones drooling over the same Chavez that has my left-wing Venezuelan friends scared for the future of their country.

Why not just browse through Anglophone papers from around the world? Why not listen to streams of the BBC, Radio Netherlands, the Voice of China? Get a wide ranging sample of the opinions/BS out there; then you might have enough data points to plot at least a ghostly outline of the issues, might have some shot at an informed opinion instead of the illusion of information we dream during our consumer narcosis.

If it's easy to get--news or whatever--someone wants you to have it. Why? Ask yourself why.

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Moore should expose the truth of corrupt journalism. It isn't "All the President's Men" any more! Watching that CNN clip with Wolf Blitzer showed that Moore had a bone to pick with the media! Since Moore is excellent at portraying the truth he should use his gift to reveal how seedy the media has become with corporate and government sponsors!

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I am a Canadian. I was born and raised there. I was educated there and went on to do post doctoral work at Stanford. Michael Moore's presentation of Canadian society in Bowling for Columbine was completely inaccurate. Again, he has presented only half the story on the Canadian health care system. I happen to live with a person suffering from a chronic disease who was diagnosed almost fifteen years ago in Canada. I have been living in the US for seven years and by God I can tell you without any hesitation that THE US HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IS FAR BETTER THAN THAT IN CANADA. In fact, the healthcare system in Canada is one thing that makes me not want to ever return to "my home and native land". I guess what I am trying to say is that until you have actually lived on both sides of the border you probably don't have an opinion worth listening to. I haven't done the research to say Moore has never lived in Canada but based on his words I seriously doubt he has.

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... there will be reprisals to Moore. He had a very successful dealing with the MSM. They are scrambling to recover, trolls and pundits - paid whores to patch the hole bitten into a crooked media.

CNN will suffer well and long for this proper blow.

Other "News Anchors" take note. Your popularity in general is on notice with America.

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It's funny that there are about 3 or 4 typical attacks on Moore that are repeated endlessly almost verbatim--never an original critique. Are you anti-Moore folks that lacking in self awareness that you don't realize you're simply aping the same tired old platitudes propagated by right-wing shills? How does it feel to be so predictable? :)

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... enough to put him into the HMO.

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I love it. How many people here (correctly) support Michael Moore in this but would cry "But you're not a structural engineer!" when people point out how the twin towers and wtc building 7 could not have been destroyed the way they were without explosives?

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Simply count the number of PhRMA ads in MSM mainstream media) including CNN and you have the sad reality.

The sociologists call it "affilation bias"

Wolfe Blitzer of CNN stated last night that news reporting is " business".Shameful statement! Herein lies the core of the problem! Like Medicine and Law, News Reporting is a profession-NOT a business.

Truth, justice and human flesh should not be for sale. Period!

Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton, Pa
http://medicalcrises.blogspot.com

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I watched your very powerful documentary and feel you nailed it on the head! The sad part is I work for Kaiser and I was incredibly ashamed and embarrassed that I do. We do the same with our employees. An employee of Kaiser was diagnosed with cancer. She's a wife and mother of 3 children. After she was diagnosed, initially was being treated under employee status, within a year she was declined anymore care, not because she was incurable, but because the "board of decisions" chose to stop treating her. The employee's had started raising money to try to get her the treatments, etc. Needless to say she could only afford to check herself back into the hospital in the last 36 hours of her life. There's so much to this story, not to mention a heartbreak it was to lose her. Where I'm going with this is it's not only the outside members being declined for medical treatment, but our own employees. A friend of mine and I have decided that should we get a serious illness, we'll leave the state where we work to be treated at another facility where Kaiser is more up to date with the technology. I've seen for my self the shoddy care the members get and have decided to start looking for work elsewhere. It may be tough, I'm 50 and have only a couple years experience in this field. My previous job was outsourced to Malaysia in '01. What's the chance of you doing a documentary on aging citizens and the discrimination against them. Thank you for the invaluable information as embarrassing and shameful our medical system is. Can't wait to see you on Larry King with Sanjay Grupta. Are you sure he's a doctor... maybe correspondance courses!!

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Journalism is NOT a profession........a profession is defined as a field of knowledge with a CODE OF ETHICS.

Journalists do not have a CODE of ETHICS.

And That's the Way It Is......

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Raoul Wallenberg was a Swede. Remember that.

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I see the usual negative comments here about Moore, but they're in the minority. Blitzer deserves a hit, as does CNN for employing this former AIPAC operative and Jerusalem Post hack (and likely Mossad agent) to provide us with unbiased news of the world, especially when most of that news has to do with the Middle East.

Gupta's piece on Sicko was pathetic, and Moore today on Sicko's website rebuts several of his points in detail.

Regardless of what one thinks of Michael Moore, this is an issue that affects all of us, even those red state knucklewalkers too stupid to realize it is costing them.

Moore deserves praise if only for being willing to take on The Big Boys on a regular basis. He could certainly take an easier road, and probably make even more money. This is something none of his disparagers would understand. It's called courage.

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Such a waste to argue about facts that are substantially correct. If Moore wants progress then he needs to stay above it and not nit-pick some of the things his critics go after. We have a problem with the healthcare delivery system and need to find some solutions. We can't continually harp on politically infeasible solutions. There are some solutions that can work. See www.healthcaresoundoff.com and read HR 676. The solutions are within our grasp if we direct our attention rather than prosecuting and defending.

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He is just out to sell his patched up diatribes and line his own fat ass pockets.

When the alternet readers can distinguish between a liberal carpetbagger and a conservative carpetbagger and admit both exist then someone might take the you serious on this issue.

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Don't believe the Lies of the Right Wing CNN. Micheal Moore is dead on the money. I recommend to all of you fellow progressives to go to Cuba or the Former Soviet Union for the best health care, or to China. Especially if you have a terminal disease and need the best care available. Whatever you do, do not ever see an American Zionist doctor. I am sure Micheal also goes to Cuba or China for his medical needs. You might even see Guru Micheal there and have a chance to shake hands, if you're really lucky. Please hurry and go, or you might miss your chance to see him. If you can't go there then go the the V.A. They're almost as good as Cuba. Hurry now. Bush is a LIAR. Enjoy your future.

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Michael Moore is an outstanding entertainer, self-promoter, propagandist, and entrepreneurial capitalist.

He is correct when he implies our health care system is largely socialized already via Medicare and Medicaid. He is incorrect in implying that HMO's are free-market systems. He ignores health savings accounts and doesn't comprehend the difference between insurance and pre-payment plans. [There is virtually no health "insurance" per se in this country.]

He is wrong when he says physicians like Medicare. They do not.

He is wrong when he states socialized medicine is cheaper per capita, since he doesn't include the increased prices for all goods and services from pizza to organic foods generated by payroll tax increases and passed on to the consumer. The worker pays twice - via the payroll tax and then via prices reflecting the higher cost of labor, since the employers must match the workers' contributions.

He dismisses the concept of "shortage" endemic to all socialized enterprises.

He is naive enough to think Castro, the dictator, would allow him to see a cross-sectional view of his dysfunctional nation.
The best way to judge Cuba: people there are punished for trying to leave. Our problem in the US is keeping people out.

I see no mention of the high unemployment rates in Germany and France [10% in France.] I see no comment on France's recent presidential election - clearly a move away from socialism.

It would take 30 8.5 x 11 pages to explain how health savings accounts reduce health care prices and how our current largely socialized or employer-driven system increases the cost of care.
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By the way. This sentence in the ground rules regarding participation at this site really scares me:

"We also ask our readers to refrain from responding to posts by people who only want to derail the conversation with conservative talking points. Please report these comments; do not respond."

It's not a debate, if there aren't opposing viewpoints.

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Check the dateline on this story

Why are the comments closed on this story and was this really posted in 1969?

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"After watching this Michael Moore interview I've decided that whatever CNN's paying you..." it's too much

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and couldn't blow Michael's house in."-Nursery rhymes for little George from his mother, Barbara. OK, Moore wasn't alive yet, but remember that's stuff to be considered in a reality based world only.

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After reading the sentiments on here, I must say it really is scary. Never have I seen masses of people who want to violently refuse something that would be to their benefit. You people are psychologically self-loathing and sick in the head. Millionares Sanjay, Lou, Wolf, and Cafferty will not lose their multi-million dollar homes when they get cancer - but YOU WILL. If you have time to actually get on Alternet and pretend you are rich (yes, I'm talking to you the one on the computer at the PUBLIC LIBRARY!!) and role-play vicariously that you have money, YOU WILL SOON BE DEAD from lack of care or YOU SOON WILL BE BROKE from lack of coverage!! You are POOR! You don't have any money! and thus, you will DIE!!! RICH millionaires who can afford to cover their BUTTS when they get cancer do not hang on Alternet, unless they are paid come on here by various Scaife-funded organizations and TROLL. Anyway, the point of the movie is THIS, you, dear reader, have LOUSY COVERAGE; the two second blink about rankings in Cuba is a RED HERRING. What I remember are the REAL facts in the movie - all those people lost their homes and savings due to insurance companies NOT PAYING. Why doesn't Sanjay check out the veracity of their stories? Also, the reason the waits are so long for doctor's care in Canada is the same reason waits are so long anytime someone gives away something for free. If they announced they were giving away free IPhones, the lines would go across three states b/c it's FREE; while yes, it would probably be cheaper to just go into Best Buy and pay $600 or whatever price it is for that thingee (I don't know b/c I'm learing about ISSUES and not playing with BS toys!!!) In the US, there are short waits for doctor's care b/c many of the people have no insurance and thus, do not show up at a doctor's office to request anything until they're growing a third LIMB!!! Just like right now you can you could be first in line at Best Buy for your $600 thingee b/c who has money for a BS toy???! And for many people, health care, just like that $600 toy is a TOTAL LUXURY!!! Duhhhh!!!

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